And then, there's silence...

[bram]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Just think of all that wasted time and money spent on a speculations.
The Brave New World IS here, and we are standing right in it, up to our necks.
Just think of all that ""ascension"" arguing, it was totally pointless.
It is a distraction.

When's the next one due?

It was a typing error by the mayans, apparently. the world will now end on 21 February, 2021 (21/02/2021). So we can now start counting down again.

[Strat]

(I apologize for not contributing to this thread but) I gotta tell you RMorgan you're like my brother from another mother. Almost every time I read your posts I agree with what you say. This is one of my (somewhat cheesy) "I love Avalon" moments; we're two different people, we're from two vastly different cultures and we've walked two different paths in life. Yet we've arrived at the same place and with the same beliefs.

[DeDukshyn]

My expectations were met 100% -- anyone else?

[Grumpy Cat]

I think there is definitely some kind of evolution going on in my mind, it is a gradual process but the fact that all this has occurred so close to the supposed end of the world is not lost on me. Like V in V for Vendetta, I do not believe in coincidence. I reckon more and more people will awaken now.

For most of my late teens I completely ignored the depths of the resource that I grew up with- the internet. It's only when I started digging deeper in to alternative media and forums such as this that I started to piece things together and bring my life more in "sync". I have encountered countless synchronicities since doing this, as if the world itself is telling me I'm finally on the right path. I've lived in a state of fear of "the system" for most of my life but now I've realised they can do precisely nothing to me as long as I keep my head screwed on, I'll be absolutely fine. I don't even fear the inevitability of death anymore since I know we persist beyond the crude matter we inhabit. That alone is a very comforting thing to know.

Knowledge and the seeking of it is definitely the "key" for my well-being, and now I know so much more than I did merely six months ago, my mind is all the more clear for it. It's as if what my subsconscious mind already knew is coming to the fore-front. Everything from the occult to future technology is all fascinating to me as I know we inhabit a world where there is potentially no limits, if we free our minds.

I often wonder if i'll find my "twin flame", whoever she is, but I know the universe tends to provide when we are really ready for it. Companionship is definitely the missing piece in the puzzle that is my life. Patience is a virtue though I suppose. :D

[modwiz]

Posted by baddbob (here)
Im waiting to hear from people like Patrick Geryl and others and see what they have to say now. I know somwhere theres a BIG sale on end of the world gear.
All of Patrick Geryl videos have been "removed by user"
2012 New Predictions
http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/impre_02.htm

He made his money. He can close his shop now, and what a user he was.

[markpierre]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,


Ascension didn´t happen, a consciousness shift didn´t happen, the end of the world didn´t happen, and if some of you feel something different, you should consider the possibility of the placebo effect.

So, I´m really curious about what are you feeling by now. Do you feel frustrated?

Raf.

So is that an announcement that needs to be made? By what authority? The ascension that you'd been imagining is relative to the parameters of your imaginings.
I'm not surprised there would be disappointment. You won't like my answer but I'm ecstatic. I've got mine. It wasn't contingent on expectations.

The placebo effect may well be a part of the general awakening of consciousness, who knows. Who cares. All 'healing' depends on a change of mind. Whatever facilitates change
is the correct medicine.
It's also a convenient way to qualify denial, implying it has no value. But you can't really deny what you can't really know, so there you go.

Part of the problem in those observations is that you still need something outside of you to verify it. It doesn't work that way. It occurs from the inside out. It's personal,
unique to your person, and your memories. Unique to your personal agenda, which is decided by a you that you do not know. But you also do. You have to meet it to remember it.

And the self that requires validation in everything it views and believes and assesses and does, is the aspect that by it's very nature, doesn't and won't participate. Yet it can.
All the verification you still demand is waiting for your agreement. Nothing can happen in perception until you're ready, and can allow it.
Perception is an effect, not a cause of anything.

All the date of the 21st is relevant to is that that's when everything that could be made available to you personally to facilitate your awakening, was.
From then, it's purely up to you. Your choices, your timetable, your human agenda and how you participate with your illusions, for you to change according to your will.
If it takes you a thousand years to recognize that you're safe, what does it matter? It's not contingent on your acknowledgement.
It's going to be subtle, because the changes in you are already part of you. Not the least bit unfamiliar. I'll bet you can acknowledge a few. Nothing's different in your
perception of yourself over the last few years?

It's there and working, as promised. Lets see what you can do. If you know you can't fail, you might even enjoy it.

[Youniverse]

Posted by Grumpy Cat (here)
I think there is definitely some kind of evolution going on in my mind, it is a gradual process but the fact that all this has occurred so close to the supposed end of the world is not lost on me. Like V in V for Vendetta, I do not believe in coincidence. I reckon more and more people will awaken now.

For most of my late teens I completely ignored the depths of the resource that I grew up with- the internet. It's only when I started digging deeper in to alternative media and forums such as this that I started to piece things together and bring my life more in "sync". I have encountered countless synchronicities since doing this, as if the world itself is telling me I'm finally on the right path. I've lived in a state of fear of "the system" for most of my life but now I've realised they can do precisely nothing to me as long as I keep my head screwed on, I'll be absolutely fine. I don't even fear the inevitability of death anymore since I know we persist beyond the crude matter we inhabit. That alone is a very comforting thing to know.

Knowledge and the seeking of it is definitely the "key" for my well-being, and now I know so much more than I did merely six months ago, my mind is all the more clear for it. It's as if what my subsconscious mind already knew is coming to the fore-front. Everything from the occult to future technology is all fascinating to me as I know we inhabit a world where there is potentially no limits, if we free our minds.

I often wonder if i'll find my "twin flame", whoever she is, but I know the universe tends to provide when we are really ready for it. Companionship is definitely the missing piece in the puzzle that is my life. Patience is a virtue though I suppose. :D

That's awesome! You are very well spoken and much wiser than most 22 year olds I have met.

[Mandala]

I'm disappointed there was no disclosure. I expected nothing, but I hoped for disclosure, a few huge ships that MSM couldn't ignore. That didn't happen, I was disappointed. I didn't expect mass ascension but I did hope for mass change through disclosure. I feel foolish for hoping.

Ok I'm a little pissed off. Sorry , apologies.

[Youniverse]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
I questioned responding to this thread, as of course it is largely pointless, but i decided to share anyway. I am experiencing a profound transformation within. I became aware that it was occuring around 2-3 years ago. At first I thought I was alone in my experience, but came to discover others having similar experiences. This process is not about aliens, gurus, ascended masters, or rapture. Instead it about being drawn within to discover all aspects that I had pushed away out of fear, to heal and clear the associated energy of fear. This process is about healing the internal state of unconscious division and returning to a state of wholeness. The further I progress in my healing journey the more my external reality reflects the changes within. For me the key to this process is gentleness, it is not about forcing, or pushing, it does not happen overnight (thank god), I feel like a blossom that is opening ...It is a very magical, mysterious and beautiful process.

Yes, what you're saying here echoes my experience somewhat. It's never been about one day or single event. It is a process that may seem to take a long time, yet considering most people probably take many hundreds or even thousands of lifetimes to reach liberation, what's 5 or 6 years? I too have felt many changes within over the last 5 years or so. Of course my current desire is to keep building on those changes to awaken more and more. I, like so many of you, had heard several different stories about Dec.21/2012, and never knew quite what to make of any of them. Perhaps there has been some great shift that most of us aren't aware of but will see the fruits of it someday. So for many there is disappointment with that date. However, if you've been experiencing the kinds of positive changes that enfoldedblue has shared here over a period of several years, than whatever did or did not happen on Dec.21 is probably of little consequence to you.

[TargeT]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
My expectations were met 100% -- anyone else?

my expectations were exceeded & I am very happy with the outcome...

All the 2012 mayan calendar hype was the PERFECT reason to take that friday off & have a 5 day "weekend" (which is really how I think the work week should be, who ever made up this 2 off 5 on week got it backwards!)

[Mulder]

Posted by RUSirius (here)
Hope is a contagious, extremely desired emotion, people, myself included I believe want to be hopeful, I think its quite natural. I never "believed" in 12/21, I did however wait and see as every other day in my life. Admittedly, I "waited/watched" a tad bit more than usual, but just a tad bit more with basically zero expectations. I too think this is a great opportunity to "cleanse" the B.S. artist out of the alternative media, I too noticed the silence. Where do "we" go from here? Well for me I stay the course that I've been on, planting, coming up with new ways of being self sufficient, and just thinkin about as much cool stuff as I can.
Jeff

Very well said! I felt totally at peace on 20th Dec and I slept normally that night. Same on 21 Dec as shown in my thread on that day. I think I'm ambivalent about the "end of the world!"

[Hermite]

Well, I witnessed a couple of "miracles" a few days ago. I was


This whole 21st thing has been very enlightening for me. For that, I am deeply grateful.

[Cidersomerset]

Well someone made it ....

[Falcor]

speaking strictly from my limited viewpoint...all i can say is that 2012 was a great catalyst for me....all the reading, contemplation, meditation.....all led me to the activation of my energy body, where i have personally verified everything that i wanted to up until now.

i can say i have 'awakened' or shifted consciousness or whatever words jive to make others understand that something major has happened within me over the past few years, but really i dont see the point in putting labels on it anymore.


the motivation behind my post is this -
maybe it is the placebo that has helped me 'see' and feel the things that i have.....and maybe its also the placebo that stops you from feeling and 'seeing' those same things. either way, let us always remember there is always two sides to a coin. i think just because our reality hasnt shifted, it is ignorant to assume the same hasnt happened for others.

much love

[9eagle9]

In case you missed yours RMorgan. You can have a copy of mine. You have a lot to feel good about.

Re: Black Friday.

Agenda: Slate Wiping.

Previous Minutes:

Re: No mother ships, no et intervention, singular quantum event, mass healing, no reset buttons, astrological light alignments, pineal gland explosions, no mass ascension (again), no mass mailed cheques from the Fed, no CME’s, no GFL (again) no Pole Shifts, and the popular late comer (no pun intended) no 17 second mind orgasm.

Dear Eagle,
By this time you have noticed that, I, the Universe in one singular all-encompassing sweep exposed nearly all the BS propaganda, mind control, programming, false beliefs, graven images and fake gurus collectively in span of approximately 24 hours. There seemed to be a great deal of confusion whether Wilcocks, Drake, Horaks, and Fulford and those like them were advanced beings.

After the non-events of last Friday I think I’ve made it pretty clear that folk like that are nowhere approaching light speed. Some people have a hard time accepting this so I thought 12-21-12 would serve as a quick reminder to add to its originally intended purpose which has been so corrupted from its original format so that even I have a hard time remembering what it was for.

Oh yes. Yes luv, I did this for you and the few others like you who stick to my guns. You expected nothing and got it all. You just let the Universe do it's work.

Those are not things of my creation so I felt no responsibility in making them happen. The shysters created them and the weak promoted them. I had nothing to do with that. I did try to say to spewing fake love hither and yon would only produce sick results.

I know a lot of people are pissed at me but that is what love is, not continuing to feed the self deceptions. it also means breaking down and exposing what is killing people. You noticed that spewing fake love everywhere did not do a damn thing on 12-21-12. I noticed you noticing.

And Yes Eagle people loathe you for noticing it. People who bear that loathing and really expected something fantastic to happen on 12-21-12 are really really self-deceived and separated from me.

The end of the world was only for those who invested themselves in such shallow happy porn. Porn is of course only to make people feel good. They have no concept of what love is even though they peddle a fake version of it to the point even I want to vomit into my own black hole. See where it got them?

Where did real love get us? Where we are right now? Feeling good,eh?

None of that happened because 12-21-12 was not about that at all. That was not my intention. I always said do not corrupt sacred things.

95 percent of the weak, the unchallenged, the gullible, the love junkies and feel good addicts, the lost guru groupies are feeling pretty exposed, disappointed, and vulnerable today. Because they didn’t believe in me. They didn’t believe me when I said I would bring great change on 12-21-12. They really don’t trust me the good old Universe no matter how much they say they do. They don't even know me at all if they thought they could expect something like that from me.

Actually they weren’t listening to me at all, but the dense side of the cosmos. The nasty little demi-gods that sit on their shoulders and leverage their emptiness. Perversely this Cosmos is called Divine.

They corrupted the intention of 12-21 didn’t they. Along with astrology, numerology, the tarot, and a plethora of other ways of the wise wilder elders. That’s why it all failed them. They corrupted 12-21 and they wonder why nothing happened.

For those who didn’t corrupt they got to see the BS TNT’d and imploded on itself in a ray of illuminating light.

The light really did happen. After all it exposed those corrupt beings for what they were, did it not? COLLECTIVELY one mass awakening and awareness of what these people are up to.

If it seems pretty quiet down there today it’s because with BS blown out of the water there’s really nothing to talk about. With nothing to talk about people will have to do, starting with themselves. Eating a heap of Jim Crow tends to dull the conversation. Hard to have a word when you are biting the bird.

The silence shows just how little Original knowing exists.

Do they really have any right to speak at all when all they tell are lies? Now their lies have been exposed for what they are. What right do they have to say anything at all? Don’t encourage them, they’ll just start up the propaganda machine again.

95 percent of the smug allegedly advanced beings who called you angry, demented, vile, bitter, uncaring and without compassion really got their reality cheque today didn’t they. Strange how you don’t feel angry bitter this day, eh?

You can feel good on 12-21-12 for the same reasons you always have. You didn’t corrupt sacred beliefs, you didn’t peddle BS, you didn’t fail to expose the Bs, the programming, the rampant corruption and its hand maidens and infectious carriers on the head every time ugly head was the you didn’t shrink from telling people how it was, how they were killing themselves and each other. You didn’t shrink from the pain the anger the lunacy the masquerade.

You of course have other faults but at least you didn't corrupt the divine.

You didn’t contribute to the pain, hopelessness and disappointment that many will be experiencing post 12-21. Yeah they were really pissed you didn’t encourage their self deceptions but how good do you think they are feeling today?

And Eagle... Let those advanced folks (the real ones I mean) who didn’t goose step in the black parade know, in case they missed my letter. Let them know that they too got a letter from the Universe in case they didn’t realize how much they meant to me. That it only takes a few to bring down the house of cards simply by sticking to one’s guns. Let them know there are still a few left in the Universe WORTH fighting for. Let them know in case they think nothing really happened at all. Let them know how rare and valuable they are.

Just a few did this. Thank them for me for demonstrating no “Mass” nothing, no “Collective” anything is required.

Tell them I said Well done, Well played and Bravo. Virtue is its own reward.

Advanced beings come in strange forms.

They’ll know who they are.

Thank you for your continued support of me . If anyone disses you tell them they have an opportunity to give their checkbook a rest. They love to hear crap like that.

I Love You,

the Universe.

PS. You think you PISSED them off ? You should have seen the looks on their faces when I didn’t vaporize them into a thousand loving light particles or convert their bodies into fifth dimensional geo forms.

[Hervé]

Thanks for the laugh 9eagle9!

Indeed, something did happened on 21-12-2012... many, many faces kept lengthening as the hopes of ascension or utter blasting destruction were fading away into the night toward 22-12-2012.

Well, merry/happy Yule Tide/Christmas/whatever you celebrate to welcome the birth of longer days!

[Arrowwind]

Yep. Quite a few folks are looking kind of foolish these days and I feel sorry for Patrick Geryl. Spreading the terror that he did and being so fully absorbed in his own "science". It is a terrible way to live. I was wondering how Drunvalo has been feeling lately, but he did back out of the doom and gloom thing a little while back.

Preparing for disaster is an ongoing process. I think of it like families did two hundred years ago. Alway prepare for what could come regarding food and shelter the best you can. Economies change, wars come and go, societies rise and fall, weather changes... these have always been the norm not unending bounty that we seem to be experiencing at this time. We all know how fragile the environmental issues are, the farming issues and the weather changes and political unrest around the world. Relying on others for survival can undermine your foundation. Remember, there are many already who are living under the crush of disaster who did not prepare, who have hungry children clinging to them, who have no pure water, who have had their houses uprooted by war, famine and other social issues. Many things cannot be prepared for but many can. This whole 2012 thing proves that we are not so good at reading the cards that are put before us.

[Arrowwind]

and by the way, we are not outside of the window of change related to 2012. If it is true that we are ascending into what is called the bronze age yuga we will see more change as time goes by... actually the amount of change I have experienced in the last 60 years is absolutely mind blowing if it were to come upon us all at once but we have been acclimatized over the last generation to radical change and its almost like we thrive on it and seek it out... it has become normal. To remain the same is out of style.. we as a nation (what ever nation you are in), as a people and as individuals seek growth and change like probably never before. With the explosion of science and open heart and the growing rationality of "religion" that I see we will see much great change coming at an exponential rates in the next 10 years.

[Eagle Eye]

I think that many doesn't know what they really want for themselves. Something you know for sure is that you are living an experience for more or less 100 years and yet many had waited to escape from this experience too early. Why is that?
Are they tired of this challenging experience? Are they lacking responsability and waiting for a savior to find solution for their problems? Do they really desire to gain something big without hard work ?

[ceetee9]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
So, I´m really curious about what are you feeling by now. Do you feel frustrated?

Anyway, personally, I see this thing as a great opportunity. It´s a good opportunity to review how your belief systems work, to stop being so naive and gullible.

It´s a great opportunity to focus on what really matters, which is how are we going to manage fixing our own world, all by ourselves.

Will we, as a collective, learn the lesson this time or will we fall for the next date in order to alienate ourselves from our real responsibilities once again?

So, what do you think? I would really like to read your conclusions about this issue, because these conclusions are extremely important to shape our future.

My best regards,

Raf.

Hi Raf, Yes, I am extremely frustrated. But not because nothing happened on 12/21. I never expected anything to happen. And I agree with you this, or any time for that matter, is an excellent opportunity for us to examine ourselves, our belief systems, and to focus on what really matters. But I'm not optimistic that that will happen and that's why I'm so frustrated. We, as a species, appear to have an innate need for others to fix things for us. And we PA members are not exempt from this flaw in our make up. When we were children we expected our parents, grand parents, and/or older siblings to fix things for us. And when we were old enough to get married and get a job we expected our spouses, employers, and/or governments to fix things for us. It's always some else's responsibility to take care of us and our families. It never quite seems to be entirely our responsibility. I know I'm generalizing and oversimplifying things here, but seriously, how many of us have ACTUALLY done anything other than pontificate to one another of how awake and aware we are and how asleep and clueless everyone else is? I'd be willing to bet, damn few (myself included).

While recognizing our problems and discussing possible solutions is absolutely a necessary first step, NOTHING is going to change unless WE MAKE IT HAPPEN. PERIOD!

Are we up for the challenge? Or do you feel it's still someone else who needs to take the first real steps to improving our world? I must admit, perhaps my biggest frustration comes from the fact that I'm not even sure I can honestly say I'm up for the challenge--and that saddens me greatly.