David Icke 2012

[robinr1]

please correct me if im wrong ...but didnt bill have some rather unkind words for mr mckenna very recently?

[Cidersomerset]

David Says during his explaination that " Mainstream science knows most of
this , but do not realise they have as seperate disciplines do not talk to each other,
when they connect the dots, they have already established this is an illusion.
But that does not go down well because it is to close to the truth"...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QvR-sgL70l8

David explains it concept laymans terms, the more I listen to this it makes more
sence and it explains for me how the universe interacts with us !



Mainstream knows all about this and although the language is different,
for me its sounds conciderably similar.....


The Holographic Universe....
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...aphic-Universe....












"..the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." -


Albert Einstein





http://true-color-of-mind.blogspot.c...ision-and.html

[Cidersomerset]

David has been trying to highlight this for a while now !!

David Icke - We think we are Humans.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbRmJ_2nqyg

David Icke 2011 - So who do we think we are? Feat. Bill Hicks, Terence Mckenna, David Lynch, John Hagelin Ph.D

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A beautiful interpretation of Davids view of conciousness...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n5EM-a0IpzQ

[greybeard]

What I dont get with David Icke is that, having realised the truth ie (There is nothing but unconditional love, and the individual self is an illusion) he keeps going on about reptilian bloodlines which are surely also part of a magnificent illusion--consciousness at play.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

What I dont get with David Icke is that, having realised the truth ie (There is nothing but unconditional love, and the individual self is an illusion) he keeps going on about reptilian bloodlines which are surely also part of a magnificent illusion--consciousness at play.

Chris

He has answered that , I'l try and find it in his words, but its on the lines that the
Reptilions are interdimetional entities/beings and presumambly have their own
connectionto the universal conciousness field.But for whatever reason cannot just
transfer into our frequency, and have highjacked a ride thru the manipulation of
certain bloodlines to be able to create in our holographic physical. Also to vampire off
the adrenalin energy given off from fear.Which explains the constant wars and
social disruption of populations by the unfair distribution of wealth and
resources.Also the interrest by the elites of peodophilic rituals....Although this
abuse is widespread thru out the world in the general population also.

I have no idea if this part is true or its just greedy evil humans that run things ?....
But the general message that we are more than the sum of the atoms we inhabit while
in this reality is deffinately ringing a bell with me....LOL...

I am more into the Ion material, but recently Bob said Ion was a hologram
and with a lot of other mainstream scientists/researchers comming to similar
conclusions its getting very interresting ..imo ...Steve



David explains his current views very well in this interview with Alex,
and whats funny he's got Alex thinking that theres something in it !!

Alex will say he's not sure about this material but he is convinced
the elites believes in the Dark Satanic/Reptilion stuff.

Remember David came to these views researching the elites.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z0mCMfC8UmI

[Cidersomerset]

Whether David is right or wrong about this material , he is not just
making it up he is connecting the dots as any good researcher/journalist
should do ! There is a lot of work in these presentations......

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zO_vGo7ucAo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=My7JTUnWqTI

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TCWkTYGXGVk

David says this is just information, take it or leave it !!

I am watching & listening to these vids as I'm posting
them ....Steve...

[Cidersomerset]

David has also been talking about the Archons....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z1QI5EJMDk4

Published on 16 Dec 2012


Red Ice Radio interviews John Lash and reveals the Archons, extra-dimensional entities that i
nteract with the Elites controlling this planet. The Archons were first revealed in ancient Gnostic
texts. The Vatican sought the complete and utter destruction of the Gnostics and their scriptures,
Learn what secrets they knew...

[greybeard]

Im not concerned about him being right or wrong--- of course you can connect the dots in the dream.
Out with the dream its irrelevant.

So if you want people to get real-- to awaken-- to stop giving power to the "powers that be" I would think a good way would be to stop feeding the illusion that there are "others" that have power over an "individual"--- fair enough it all seems real enough-- your cut your hand you bleed.
However its like David has a foot in both the camps--the world of illusion and the world of reality. The world of reality being the one he speaks of in the holographic video.
The ones that are truly enlightened don't have any fear--- Eckhart Tolle quote--"There never was anyone there to do anything to you"
Ultimate reality-- There is no individual. Only consciousness experiencing, witnessing and being aware.
Consciousness is evolving to know itself.

I accept that I had to read/hear that over and over again for years before I could see the truth of that -- its still a belief as contrary to my reality but I do believe it to be so now.

Chris

[greybeard]

If you want to take it back a step to say that we are a holographic universe---then if this is so-then the best thing we can do is to change the way that we function with "others" be kind and with the holographic principal that will change the whole.

That brings it back to what Gandhi said--- "Be the change that you want to see"
With the holographic principal you can see the ultimate truth and power of that.
I believe it is that simple--- its not rocket science-- just be the best you --you can be.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

Another aspect to all this is that the elites have communitated with entities thru mediums
for ever apparently some famously like Ronald Raegan but Bob Nevritt said his faction
used channelled information on behalfe of the Rockafella faction to defeat the Prince
Charles faction in the secret councel of Ten in the 1990's channelled thru the Evergreens.
He was talking about this on last weeks radio show.He did not go into details as he often
touches on his 'intelligence' past then says he cannot go further...

When Ion came thru via JW in 2009, Bob thought it was the Evergreen entities coming
thru another channel.But since then, Bob has speculated Ions true origin. It has slightly
devoloped to it being an Enviroment, pure electricity to a hologram on last Thursday show.

I know this means nothing to most of you who do not listen to the shows and recordings
but it confirms a lot to me on my journey.We are all tuned in to this universal frequency
at slightly different settings so there are probably many possibilites....Steve

[genevieve]

We ARE infinite consciousness, but we've had so much brainwashing that it's hard to see it and reconcile it with the life we live and the life we see around us.

My take: Icke speaks about the Reptilians, etc., as a way of waking people up to the fact that we are being manipulated. Once we become aware that there's a game going on and can see how it's being played, we can then choose to continue playing or not. If we're not aware that we have choices, we usually go with what we're given.

John Lamb Lash's information regarding the Archons, based on the Gnostic teachings, is incredibly eye-opening as to how the game started and how it's being played. His website: metahistory.org


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve

[observer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
What I dont get with David Icke is that, having realised the truth ie (There is nothing but unconditional love, and the individual self is an illusion) he keeps going on about reptilian bloodlines which are surely also part of a magnificent illusion--consciousness at play.

Chris

Posted by greybeard (here)
Im not concerned about him being right or wrong--- of course you can connect the dots in the dream.
Out with the dream its irrelevant. [....snip]

Chris

Please don't percieve my words as confrontational, Chris, but what is "irrelevant" in the popular model is the concept that we create our own reality, and that by focusing on the mechanism that controls our reality, we give energy to that control mechanism. This popular theory simply is not supported by the fundimental laws of quantum physics.

In the "quantum world", matter does not exist. Everything we know as atomic structure only exists as a wave-form in the quantum field. Only when those wave forms are observed (or measured) do those wave forms turn into atomic structure, or matter. This is a sound quantum principal that will not be argued by any quantum physisist. This is the basis for what we all understand as "reality".

Nothing exists as 'matter' until it is observed. Otherwise, everything exists in a wave form, much like an electromagnetic wave, which is what all elemental atomic structure is - an electromagnetic wave.

How can anyone who understands this concept deny that our reality is being manipulated by hyperdimensional entities then? If we were truly sovereign individuals with control of what sort of reality materializes out of the quantum field, than we would be able to create our own reality at will. This is obviously NOT what is happening. Our collective realities are being hyperdimensionally manipulated by some outside life form. (David Icke's Hyperdimensional Reptiles) The illusion in which we all exist is that illusion being manipulated into our collective realities. To change this collective reality, one must get the majority of the Mass of Humanity to see how the mechanism works, and to understand what is in control of that reality creating mechanism.

This is what David Icke is trying to show the Mass of Humanity. This is what Gandhi was speaking, when he said, "be the change that you want to see".

To bring a focus on the structure of the controlling mechanism is in no way giving energy to that mechanism. To ignore the foundational structure of the controlling mechanism is exactly what those hyperdimensional entities want the Masses to do.

Reference Resources:
http://youtu.be/lMBt_yfGKpU
Follow the remainder of the five part series, here.

[greybeard]

Hi Observer
I dont deny what you are saying as there are different realms and different levels.
Yes the lower astral is up to all kinds of mischief and they do affect people in this relative reality through music, video games, films the media the works.
However there is a higher reality and is as real if not more so than this one.
You have possibly have looked at videos of NDE which I find encouraging.
We are back to what David Icke has said---Only unconditional love exists---- we can choose love or fear.
We have not evolved much through attacking violence with violence etc-- that obviously has not worked.

Anyway each to their own--- your opinion has as much validity as mine.

Best wishes
Chris

ps link to Neuro Surgeon NDE

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post594390

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post594390

[Napping]

Hi Chris,
I love your insights and agree with most. I personally believe however that the purpose of living in this dimension/density isn't necessarily to transcend it while we are here, but to utilize its laws of duality to learn lessons, to mature, both individually and as a collective.I feel the key is to take the middle road. That is to acknowledge the serenity of loving consciousness and be in the now, but also to revel in the love, hurt, fear, courage that can be experienced in duality.

The importance of David Ickes insistence on highlighting the reptilions, archons or whatever you like to call them is to reveal to people that the game of duality which appears and in many ways is a hell hole has been rigged. It's not until we are aware of this however, that we can overcome it and actually manage the middle road.

I do believe that that the most effective way of overcoming these entities is through being the change as Gandhi did and living in the now and being the awareness as echardt has achieved.... But the reality is, that these are exceptional individuals. Echardt himself came to the edge of the brink. Many of us don't get to that point and submit to influences of the rigged game. Therefore shedding a light on the fact that these entities exist can be the tipping point that many need to overcome their "inner demons" or as the case may be, "invading demons" to find the middle road and revel in this amazing realm.

I also don't want to give the archons all of the credit for the current state we find ourselves on earth. I do also believe that much of the mess we are in is our own doing and the karmic wheel will continue to turn unfavorably until we indeed, "see the light" and live the light.

My opinion changes with the wind for what it's worth, so a humble opinion is all it is.

Cheers,

Matt

[DNA]

Icke didn't come up with any of this, Michael Talbot popularized this theory 20 years ago. David Icke has yet to produce anything original in my opinion.

[Cidersomerset]

Icke didn't come up with any of this, Michael Talbot popularized this theory 20 years ago. David Icke has yet to produce anything original in my opinion.

Exactly! David has said many times he researched all this and credits most of the sources as he goes along.He is just connecting dots, but with over 20
years research he does put his own ideas on some of it which is natural imo.If it was not for David & others i would of not heard of michael Talbot and others
so its obvious where David got it from and he is publicising these other pioneers work...

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Observer
I dont deny what you are saying as there are different realms and different levels.
Yes the lower astral is up to all kinds of mischief and they do affect people in this relative reality through music, video games, films the media the works.
However there is a higher reality and is as real if not more so than this one.
You have possibly have looked at videos of NDE which I find encouraging.
We are back to what David Icke has said---Only unconditional love exists---- we can choose love or fear.
We have not evolved much through attacking violence with violence etc-- that obviously has not worked.

Anyway each to their own--- your opinion has as much validity as mine.

Best wishes
Chris

ps link to Neuro Surgeon NDE

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post594390

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post594390

Hi Chris we are on the same wavelengh ( Frequency )...LOL....just tweaking the tuner a bit !!..LOl..

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12th November 2012 20:05

Dr. Eben Alexander...Proof of Aterlife....Coast 2 Coast..& .. Afterlife TV interview

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-TV-interview




Doctor sceptic 'dies' for seven days and returns to confirm what David Icke has been saying and writing all these years - our reality is but an illusory dream and beyond this realm of illusory time and space LOVE prevails




We are the Infinite Forever.

Rather than experiencing nothingness during these seven earth-days of unconsciousness, Dr. Alexander found himself "awakening" from the dream of his earthly life, suddenly experiencing an incomprehensibly vast expansion of his consciousness in the afterlife. This experience is described in more detail in his book "Proof of Heaven," but here are the highlights:

• The experience of the afterlife was so "real" and expansive that the experience of living as a human on Earth seemed like an artificial dream by comparison.

• There was no time dimension in the afterlife. Time did not "flow" as it does in our universe. An instant could seem like eternity, and consciousness could move through what we perceive to be time without effort. (This idea that all time exists simultaneously has enormous implications in understanding the nature of free will and the multiverse, along with the apparent flow of time experienced by our consciousness in this realm.)

• The fabric of the afterlife was pure LOVE. Love dominated the afterlife to such a huge degree that the overall presence of evil was infinitesimally small.

The apparent prevalence of 'evil' (the reverse of 'live' or 'life') in our reality is because of the circumstances that I explain and my books and explained at length at Wembley

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...-love-prevails

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=H6tepebY37E



Published on 31 Oct 2012 by Loz Unezie

George Noory interview with Dr Eben Alexander MD, about his book "Proof of Heaven -- A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Afterlife". This renowned surgeon suffered a life threatening meningococcal infection and went into a coma. He eventually awoke with amazing insights that have had a profound impact on his life.

"We are conscious, despite our brain - consciousness is a divine link that we all share with each other and it is also the direct link to the Divine creative source of us all"


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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QOSb3G53HsA



Published on 9 Nov 2012 by AfterlifeTVChannel


http://www.AfterlifeTV.com
Proof Of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey Into The Afterlife with Dr. Eben Alexander III


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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwLgxniI7KM



Published on 11 Aug 2012 by sunfellow


This six minute excerpt comes from a 50 minute interview that Dr. Eben Alexander did with Steve Paulson at the 2012 Bioethics Forum entitled "Research on Near Death & The Experience Of Dying". The complete interview is available here:


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-TV-interview

[greybeard]

Yes dare I say great minds?--smiling.
I first heard him on Oprah.
Its very credible.
I did not see your original post on it.
Im now listening to the Bioethics Forum interview.
Thanks Chris

[Cidersomerset]

David Icke - Beyond Mind & The End of The Beginning!

Thursday, 27 December 2012 11:24

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=86SqwHh89cw

David summeries an important part of his interview
with Alex jones posted above in full, in this segment
he posted today !!

[Cidersomerset]

This is interresting and proves David tries to get his message over to anyone
who will listen..........The vid below shows the segment relevent to this thread.



In 2008, David gave a talk at the famous Oxford Union Debating Society, not to
persuade or convert people to his way of thinking, but merely to provide
information and let them decide for themselves.


During the 110 minutes of his talk, Icke covers the growing surveillance in today's
society, the rise of the neo-conservatives and the 9/11 attacks, the Illuminati and
the Global Fascist Dictatorship before finishing by talking about lenses, how we are
all holograms and how love can prevent disaster.


Full review on link.Mr Becket was not impressed & found the talk tedious !..LOL.!!
http://www.myreviewer.com/DVD/105126...-David-Beckett



David Icke - The Holographic Illusion

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_6P6j_MPA

Oxford Union Debating Society