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    the game is on... hmm... although I'd still say Russia/US coordinateing their actions

    US Navy Pulls Two Aircraft Carriers From Syria Shores

    Two aircraft carriers stationed off the Syrian coast were sent back to the US this week in a move that the Obama administration thought would ease tensions, but angered Turkish officials who hoped for significant US military presence in the region...



    Russia Tells US To Back The Hell Off...

    Rarely in the annals of modern history has a sovereign nation stated their position so strongly and clearly.
    Russia is telling the West in general and the U.S. specifically to stop the rush toward an intervention in Syria, which the Russians see as inevitably starting a regional war in the Middle East which would grow into World War III.
    They don’t want that.
    So they are posting gigantic warning signs with their actions, seeing that their words have not been sufficient...



    Russian Forces Take Syrian Chemical, Biological Weapons Under Control

    The chemical warfare threat looming over Syria’s civil war and its neighbors has taken an epic turn with the announcement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Saturday, Dec. 22, that “the Syrian government has “consolidated its chemical weapons in one or two locations amid a rebel onslaught and they are under control for the time being.”
    He added that Russia, “which has military advisers training Syria’s military, has kept close watch over its chemical arsenal.”



    update:
    US Defeat In Syria Would Be End Of US Hegemony In Middle East

    US putting all in to create additional new rebel leaders... Turkey seeing writing on the wall... (ie. end of Modern Turkey) ... talk about left holding the bag.... this analyst must have solid intel and goes straight to the point, he should have his own thread on this forum with regular updates.
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    Author and journalist Webster Tarpley, who's in Damascus, says, it's very simple, western powers are behind the violence in Syria.


    Graphic (ie. real dead bodies)


    Isreal has 'Change of Heart' about Chemical Weapons in last 48 hours
    http://www.debka.com/article/22629/I...r-now%E2%80%9D
    Amazing what a Nuclear Capable Missile Can Do When It's pointed in your own backyard for a change... what a difference a day makes...
    But the US and Russia must be making some serious cash with all the high powered weaponry being bought and sold, Maybe this is the solution, if everyone in the Middle Least Has Missiles capable of destroying every other country, they will finally all be safe... (gee, why didn't I think of that?)
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    The Matrix In a Nutshell


    So here's the punch line - This is all just one huge gamble by a psychopathic group of inbred secret society bankers families, and the psychopathic ruthless sadists who sold their souls for political power to serve these ruling elite classes.

    They are literally gambling with everyone's future - by stealing the accumulated lifetime of labour of every man women and child, especially in the last 40 years, but this has been going on since the inception of the (non)Federal (non)Reserve created in 1913, after the FBI in 1910, and IRS (Correction: IRS created in 1862 but went through a major restructuring in 1913) The 'evil' plan crystallized on June 5, 1933 - As HJR-192 (Chapter 11 Bankruptcy as an economic model) The Government actually took on all the debts in the public "dollar for dollar". According to some researchers this was the finalization of a process to restart the US's third 70 year bankruptcy which was also related to a 20 year wait period starting in 1908(?) before becoming official (law) in 1929) This entailed some kind of restructuring of the Birth Certificate as part of this Corporate Restructuring. Effectively creating 'money' by borrowing it via the creation of bonds (fancy term for borrowing money) issued against trusts created from our birth certificates. These trusts represent our credit, based on an actuarial value of our lifetime of labour within the context of the economy and resources of our respective countries, calculated into an actual monetary value.

    The Bankers then issue bonds against these trusts and lent this 'money' to the Government. And secured the loans by contracting with the Government to agree to create another body, namely a collection agency, such as the IRS to guarantee the collection of interest payments on this loan. All this money which is really nothing but accounting on paper was then funneled through the Federal Reserve, IMF and transferred to places like the Inner City of London, and the Vatican. Someone has to collect all these 'taxes' (i.e. read: interest payments on loans to the government, based on bonds created against your lifetime of labour)

    Understand that charging interest (or usury) when charted on an X/Y graph, is mathematically an exponential function. Thus this is mathematically going to create larger and larger amounts of interest until the borrower ends up owing more money then he is able to produce with the money borrowed and the lender owning everything, while living off the avails of our labour the whole time. And all because essentially they got the Government to agree to give them a license to create these bonds in the first place. They are charging us interest by lending us our own credit!!! In this context, this is the definition of parasitism. This is how criminal gangsters operate. This is why they can't lose, it's stacked from the beginning, like a gambling house it's all mathematics, the longer it runs, eventually all the money goes towards interest. Until there is nothing left. Game over. A mathematical inevitability.

    So lets put this back into the context of the gamble? What are they betting all this wealth and prosperity on? They are betting all our credit on the idea that if they kill enough people in other countries, those countries will give us what these ('money creators') want... Namely to infiltrate their governments and set up the exact same system in their countries, so that they can in turn start issuing more bonds (borrow or extract their wealth) to create even more 'money' from their lifetime of labour. So this is a self perpetuating program that can be used to fuel, invest in more WAR just like Nick Rockefeller intimated to Aaron Russo. They want to run this program (virus) until the whole planet is subsumed under their control. In the US it is facilitated by The Industrialized Military Complex. It is Monopoly and Risk, all rolled into one. This is this what you have bet your future and your children's future on.

    There are many powerful philosophical and other hidden levels to all this. Especially if you pull back and look at the trust interpretations. (which actually points to a solution, maybe I should leave that for another story...;-)

    Looked at another way. If they lose the gamble, i.e. these wars they create, well who cares? They have effectively taken our future and flushed it down the toilet. It was never their money to begin with, so like the great Imperialists they are, they have used our energy and labour and enslaved us to build our own destruction. And thus we are controlled, If they/we win the war, then we are still their slaves but we get finer clothes and a larger portion at our next meal. And the country we have conquered will now suffer since it is their portion we have taken. Now they will be enslaved and their economy will be designed in the image of their creators until they are in a position to do it to the next country.

    This is a complete self perpetuating system. In Empire of the City - World Super State (also known as the Ring of Power) The Narrator explained that the 3 World Superstates. The Vatican, (Religious/Philosophical Force) The Inner City Of London (the financial architects/accountants) and Washington DC (the Military Industrial Complex) all operate as separate independent Sovereign States. With Separate Legal Systems. What are their legal systems based on if they are not the same as ours? According to her it was ROMAN LAW.

    So the Vatican/Great Britain/US are nothing more then an extension and continuation of the Roman Empire in modern form. Still tied to their ancient occult practices and rituals and their ancient imperialist philosophy. To conquer by force or by deceit but to conquer all others at whatever cost. They have refined this process into what we call "modern society" And figured out it must be done economically, through the banking system ie. by going into other countries and taking over their economies and then creating their banking system, then sitting back and letting the 'system' of exponential interest accumulation run until the host country is drained of all its wealth. Everything else is a dog and pony show...

    Does this fit? Look at all the countries attacked in the last 10+ years. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and North Korea and Iran. All with separate banking systems not tied into the IMF/Federal Reserve. What happened to Iraq? They set up a "constitution" look up in a legal dictionary what that means. It is just a tax collection system. (And now you know what taxes really are). What were they doing in Libya? setting up a bank in the middle of a civil war rebellion?

    These are the same taxes we were told about as little children in the Christmas story told every year with great emotion (for maximum mind control) in the Bible written by the Roman Catholic Vatican (and Authorized King James Bible). We have been subliminally conditioned since childhood to accept REGISTRATION and paying TAXES since being able to read!



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    just a note, America doesn't make money by selling weapons...

    just like we make no money on wars for oil...

    we pay for the war, but all benefits go to the 7 sisters

    anyone have a budget sheet handy to see how much was knocked off the national debt by oil men and bomb builders?

    0%

    those who profit should pay off the debt...

    they should pay the pensions for the millions of soldiers who fought in the war

    they should pay the health care for wounded soldiers who were injured in the war for their oil...

    they should allow the $1200 Trillion in derivatives to be taxed

    why are bankers allowed almost 100 times the debt of the worlds largest Nation? oh yeah, they write the rules...

    we are still waiting for Change President Obama...

    like a kid pulling a tooth, tie the string to a door handle and slam it shut, only hurts for a moment...

    do it quick while the teaparty is fighting with the GOP

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    Your best painting yet, Rocky.
    Quickly, lets put it in a beautiful frame and hang it in Avalon's Great Hall.

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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    the game is on... hmm... although I'd still say Russia/US coordinateing their actions

    US Navy Pulls Two Aircraft Carriers From Syria Shores

    Two aircraft carriers stationed off the Syrian coast were sent back to the US this week in a move that the Obama administration thought would ease tensions, but angered Turkish officials who hoped for significant US military presence in the region...

    Question ?

    Does this mean that besides the USA having a war with the ET's , and then Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, that we should now include Russia?




    I still have been waiting to hear news of a casualty count for USA soldiers killed in action by those rotten aliens
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    just a note, America doesn't make money by selling weapons...
    just like we make no money on wars for oil...
    we pay for the war, but all benefits go to the 7 sisters
    anyone have a budget sheet handy to see how much was knocked off the national debt by oil men and bomb builders?
    0%
    those who profit should pay off the debt...
    they should pay the pensions for the millions of soldiers who fought in the war
    they should pay the health care for wounded soldiers who were injured in the war for their oil...
    they should allow the $1200 Trillion in derivatives to be taxed
    why are bankers allowed almost 100 times the debt of the worlds largest Nation? oh yeah, they write the rules...
    we are still waiting for Change President Obama...
    like a kid pulling a tooth, tie the string to a door handle and slam it shut, only hurts for a moment...
    do it quick while the teaparty is fighting with the GOP
    I think I am agreeing, but it is hard to say with such a scant "painting", not sure who the 7 sisters are, but I would say a limited number of Americans are benefiting, that would be the owners, CEOs, and the employees of the companies that produce the weapons and the oil.

    And the investors, which would comprise mostly the same people again and all the additional investors, with the "owners" and CEOs probably maintaining controlling interest. So given that that may be less then 1% of the population then you would be right. But that is what a corporation is, an implementation of a pyramid structure, I have said many times a pyramid's fundamental purpose is to concentrate the energy (or money) into the pinnacle. It is NOT the only way to structure a group of people.

    And I just thought I explained how they are doing it... but the explanation broken down in more detail would include the corporation, as part of the greater pyramid structure. (sub pyramid)

    So if you are talking about the people's labour and that the benefit of their labour is being stolen from them, I am taking it one step farther, and saying that they are not only having their labour stolen from them, but the money being created from "thin air" is actually coming from their "FUTURE" labour! That is being or has already been stolen before you/they have even put in the labour yet! And also your children's labour. Add that to your picture.

    A bond is just a rich man's way of borrowing. What are they borrowing - our future labour. (as summarized above... I think)

    The Bible and the Muslim Religions prohibit USURY (which means nothing more then CHARGING INTEREST, which means they must have known the math and known the outcome already... Arabic culture was pretty good with math...)
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    America is in league with Russia, has been since the 40's. This is just a smokescreen. there has never been a good reason for one war... the rebel english coming here, was just an extention of England getting more land ... we speak English not American. they brought their religion , our system is set up like England, then enter the banks owned by English families with the name bank of america and people bought it... they manipulate everything... the economy takes a dive, they start a new war, war is big business, hell we are still in Korea...
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    Does this mean that besides the USA having a war with the ET's , and then Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, that we should now include Russia?

    Well don't forget that it is very profitable for the Military Industrial Corporations.

    This may involve ETs and Russia, as I alluded to, but there may be more going on behind the scenes, just like the liberals and the conservatives are really working together (think World Wrestling Entertainment) But I won't discount the possibility that it may possibly be something along those lines, if ETs are inter-dimensional forces. Otherwise known as spirit beings. That these ruling classes may be interacting with etc. But I will leave that to the likes of David Icke, et al. not related to this focus.

    I am talking about something much more concrete and ever present. Welcome to the world of finances and modern banking. Welcome to Sumeria/Babylon/Egypt/Greco Rome. The world of elitism. But we don't have to go that far back. I think going back to Rome should be enough context for now and something most people can identify with. (see Jordan Mawwell - Occult World of Commerce)

    The world of finance works at the most fundamental level. Look up the videos MONEY AS DEBT (and MONEY AS DEBT II) All money is created from Debt, or BORROWING, Bonds are fundamental to all financial models. There is the real world and then there is a virtual world, like the world of accounting, one is real, and the other is on paper. The have shanghai-ed this paper system and contracted the government into enforcing it. And then they have distorted it so far it no longer represents the real world but a supposed future world that hasn't even come to past yet, (and may never be)

    Not to get all depressed about it, but the solving of any problem starts with identifying the problem clearly, and I think I have clearly identified a summary above based on years of research.

    added: Money As Debt III
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    the major oil companies are known as the 7 sisters...

    before oil the world traded Beer...

    same sisters...

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    USURY =INTEREST = EXPONENTIAL FUNCTION = Method of stacking the deck

    Like everything they do it slowly kills you over a long period of time (to hide the causal relationship and consequent liability) but it is still a slow poison and it is still killing you/us) And this can be proven mathematically. And the beauty is once they have this system set up and everyone plugged in, it works like clockwork.


    I just found this on a random search, this is hardly the best example (too complex) but just skip to 29:30 and see the graph, (unless you are into the math, knock yourself out...)

    Exponential Function
    Essentially its a measure of rate of change (or how fast something is accelerating) and represented graphically by a very familiar curve everyone has seen and can understand quickly. It is just nice to know the 'math' behind it...

    Will post a simpler one I have seen before
    update: Here is a much better presentation, I think I like this professor more.
    Arithmetic, Population & Energy
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    Russia is scared of being on the wrong side of history - this caused them to panic and allow the bombing of Libya in 2011. Huge mistake, which they have acknowledged. Now the fate of Syrian chemical weapons is another head ache for them, the first risk is that they are used by the Syrian government - here Russia would be blamed. Alternatively, they may be acquired by the Islamist leadership and used against Russian targets in the future.

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    Unleash The Printing Presses of WAR

    Why your standard of living hasn't increased in the last 40 years...
    I have always said the US has invested everything in the Military Industrial Complex...
    How Are They Going To Get Their Return On This Investment?

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    And it's the Fed (Private Rothchild Banking Fronts) Bankrolling it...
    (or should I say "monetizing" our future energy and labour into oblivion)

    Lew Rockwell explains how the Federal Reserve Enables War, Empire, and Destroys the Middle Class
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    Russia is scared of being on the wrong side of history - this caused them to panic and allow the bombing of Libya in 2011. Huge mistake, which they have acknowledged. Now the fate of Syrian chemical weapons is another head ache for them, the first risk is that they are used by the Syrian government - here Russia would be blamed. Alternatively, they may be acquired by the Islamist leadership and used against Russian targets in the future.

    I think the Russians are well aware that the advancing 'western' forces are systematically gathering all captured weapons and forward shipping them up to the next front.

    A LOT of missiles disappeared from Libya.

    This kind of weapons acquisition is an ideal way for them to keep what they are really up to "off the books". Just like the drug money.
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    Get ready for the coming collapse of a 99 year old ponzi scheme (now 318 times the size of Madoff's) that's set to wipe out the once Great American Middle Class

    What the Federal Reserve has done to the US economy in the last 100 years.
    There is a sales pitch at the end with great investment advice (if you got the sheckles to invest...) and where to go "when it's time to get out of Dodge"
    pretty hard hitting, a nice nutshell of G Edward Griffin's - Creature from Jekyll Island.

    It looks like the 64,000 dollar question in the next few months is hyper inflation vs deflation, this investor flat out is calling inflation... (myself, still not sure, needs more research...)
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by Tesseract (here)
    Russia is scared of being on the wrong side of history - this caused them to panic and allow the bombing of Libya in 2011. Huge mistake, which they have acknowledged. Now the fate of Syrian chemical weapons is another head ache for them, the first risk is that they are used by the Syrian government - here Russia would be blamed. Alternatively, they may be acquired by the Islamist leadership and used against Russian targets in the future.

    I think the Russians are well aware that the advancing 'western' forces are systematically gathering all captured weapons and forward shipping them up to the next front.

    A LOT of missiles disappeared from Libya.

    This kind of weapons acquisition is an ideal way for them to keep what they are really up to "off the books". Just like the drug money.
    I think the Russians underestimated the US resolve (and black forces) out to kill Gadaffy, like us they are looking at all this blatantly exposed criminality of a desperate US trying to grind the world under it's boot. And may be just as shocked as everyone else. And it certainly gives them moral justification for stepping into Syria. It is clearly more difficult for US propaganda to hide this turn of events... Gaddaffy was an unfortunate circumstance, and I wonder who is going to start scooping out all the gold from Libya now?...
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