What Really Happened at Sandy Hook??

[Salv8tion]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?

Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...bster/1790293/

In the article....

One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

I draw your attention to the second paragraph in this linked KSHB news release dated 12/14/12:

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/nationa...uspects-mother

The hype regarding a semi-automatic assault rifle being used in this Newtown School attack is nothing more than dis-information. The rifle in question was NOT used in the shootings. Only hand guns were involved in any of the shooting inside of the school.

Not according to the research done by Niall Bradley, columnist at the website Veterans Today who published this article that was mentioned earlier in this thread :http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/

Excerpt--This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that “Only the rifle was used on the victims“, a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state’s chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had “three to 11 wounds apiece”. He also said that the ‘gunman’ used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the ‘shooter’ was able to reload so quickly because he had “taped two magazines together.” Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.

While the media changed their story a bunch of times, this seems pretty clear that a rifle was used--now was it the bushmaster recovered from Lanza's car? Probably not. Did it come from another rifle that belonged to one of the other shooters? Most likely.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?

Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...bster/1790293/

In the article....

One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

Funny, with the plethora of different rifles available on the market, the Bush Master (hmmm) seems to be the tool of choice. I just now became aware that it was used in these two other incidents we know of as well.

_ Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, a civilian version of the military's M-16 and a model commonly seen at marksmanship competitions. It's similar to the weapon used in a
recent shopping mall shooting in Oregon. Two men convicted in a series of sniper killings in the Washington, D.C.-area in 2002 also used a Bushmaster
.223-caliber rifle that they fired from the trunk of a car at randomly picked victims. Lanza was carrying multiple 30-round magazines, police said, though
higher capacity ones are available.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2317461.html

[SilentFeathers]

This is who owns Bushmaster...

Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. is an American private equity firm.[1] The firm is based in New York City, and run by financier Steve Feinberg, who co-founded Cerberus in 1992 with William L. Richter, who currently serves as a senior managing director. The firm has affiliate and/or advisory offices in the United States, Europe and Asia.[2]
Cerberus has more than US$20 billion under management in funds and accounts. The company is a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Registered Investment Advisor.[3] Investors include prominent government and private sector pension and retirement funds, charitable foundations, university endowments, insurance companies, family savings and sovereign wealth funds.[1]
The firm's headquarters are located at 875 Third Avenue in New York City.

Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog that guarded the gates of Hades.

On December 18, 2012, the company began divesting its assets in Freedom Group, makers of the AR-15 modern sporting rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberu...tal_Management

Freedom Group is an American firearms manufacturer holding company which has acquired notable brands such as Bushmaster, DPMS, and Remington Arms.[3]
Freedom Group is owned by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity investment firm. However, on December 18, 2012, following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, Cerberus began divesting its assets in Freedom Group.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Group

There's TOO MUCH to post here about Cerberus!!!!!! Check in to it, it'll put a whole new perspective on things about these shootings......

They also own 51% of GM....the list goes on and on....

In addition to owning DynCorp International, Cerberus owns IAP Worldwide Services

HMMM? In December 2004, the company announced the acquisition of Bayer's plasma products business and renamed it Talecris Biotherapeutics. It purchased Talecris for $83m, and sold the bulk of its shares in October 2009, for a net gain of $1.8bn.

On December 22, 2011, Covis Pharma, a specialty pharmaceutical company owned by affiliates of Cerberus, announced that it had agreed to acquire full commercial rights for Fortaz (ceftazidime), Zinacef (cefuroxime), Lanoxin (digoxin), Parnate (tranylcypromine sulfate), and Zantac Injection (ranitidine hydrochloride) in the United States and Puerto Rico from GlaxoSmithKline.

This is BIGTIME stuff!

Cerberus was the offspring of Echidna, a hybrid half-woman and half-serpent, and Typhon, a fire-breathing giant whom even the Greek gods feared. Its brother is Orthrus, always depicted as a two-headed hellhound.[5] The common depiction of Cerberus in Greek mythology and art is as having three heads. In most works the three-heads each respectively see and represent the past, the present, and the future, while other sources suggest the heads represent birth, youth, and old age.[6] Each of Cerberus' heads is said to have an appetite only for live meat and thus allow only the spirits of the dead to freely enter the underworld, but allow none to leave.[7] Cerberus was always employed as Hades' loyal watchdog, and guarded the gates that granted access and exit to the underworld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus

I wonder if Dubya "Bushmaster's" family is tied to Cerberus in any way?????

[Jean-Luc]

Good common sense interview from Morris (UK) talking to 'Sarah' (US) 3 days ago.

The Americans will buy whatever official story is put out about Sandy Hook. Re the anomaly of the authorities locking up the brother of the accused assassin for his own safety. I make some wild guesses. But it is strange that he is being locked up, I wonder what he wants to say?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=G5-id1xbynM

"Most people don't think at all..."

Or perhaps rather, don't want to think anymore and just go into self-censure and hide into Newspeak "this is all once again conpirationist thinking" in order to avoid the pain of any critical thinking.

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by 161803398 (here)
Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Posted by Paul (here)
We're not the only one's doubting this story. See Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children... (Post #324) .

The current GOP campaign finance chairman Michael Harris agrees, calling out Israel, and a current three star general chimes in saying: “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

Aha - that's the one. I posted on this thread linking to you comments about this Harris report on the other thread, before realizing just now you posted it here too.

Cool!

Although being presented as "current GOP campaign finance chairman", I don't know to what extent he is really a public figure in the US (couldn't locate his profile).

I don't recall any high profile politician making such a strong and explicit case against Israel, so quickly after 911.

In this case saying how sick he felt about the behaviour of Israel and specifically accusing, without the shadow of a doubt, the Israeli death squads involved in the Sandy Hook bloodbath.

Apparently he was joined by some in the military and other law enforcement guys:

After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

One three star general is quoted as saying,

“Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...gence-analyst/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Aslh1DebPw4

Are we changing gear? Or will this just be burried by the next staged event?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
Although being presented as "current GOP campaign finance chairman", I don't know to what extent he is really a public figure in the US (couldn't locate his profile).

I don't recall any high profile politician making such a strong and explicit case against Israel, so quickly after 911.

He's not that well known (as in I didn't recognize him immediately.)

Here's a brief profile for him, from http://www.renseradio.com/hosts.htm

Mike Harris

Mike Harris spent 20 years in China and Russia and the Far East working on mergers acquisitions, specializing in technology development and transfers. He has managed projects as simple as power plants and as complex as the Pershing 2 missile. He is currently with Swiss based Adamus group, and serves on project team for the next generation $1.6 trillion dollar hyper collider. Mike is a lifelong Republican, and former candidate for governor of AZ, Mike also served as Republican Party Finance Chairman. Mike Supported Ron Paul for the 2012 primary campaign.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Posted by Paul (here)
We're not the only one's doubting this story. See Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children... (Post #324) .

The current GOP campaign finance chairman Michael Harris agrees, calling out Israel, and a current three star general chimes in saying: “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

There have been some follow up articles from Gordon Duff and others writing for PressTV and Veterans Today on what Mike Harris said.

The same day that Mike Harris spoke, Dec 18, Gordon Duff published an article in Iran's PressTV: Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst, presenting some of the same discrepancies we've been considering on this thread, including this description of Mike Harris' remarks:

Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”

A day or two later, Jim W. Dean, who also writes for Iran's PressTV and Veteran Times, wrote in Israel activates American 5th column for Sandy Hook damage control that:

After the Gordon Duff story started going viral, Israel then had a choice, to note the anger and repair the damage, or go after “the messenger.’ To any cop or intelligence officer, and several were consulted during the day, Israel’s behavior showed one thing. They had something to hide.

...

While it is a sad fact that Israeli Intel assets are almost never prosecuted here, those that operate in the public arena are data-mined to maintain a threat profile. Thank God for the computers. What we found was that Israel had unleashed some of their fifth column assets on us. We appreciated being able to update the files.

About the same time, Jim Fetzer also writing for both Veterans Today and PressTV, wrote the article: Mossad death squads slaughtered American children at Sandy Hook:

Mike Harris of Veterans Today has exposed the pattern relating what happened there to earlier assaults: “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a ‘lone gunman’ who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children.

It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the ‘one gunman’ story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.

The most likely scenario, given what we know now, is that Adam Lanza and his mother killed the day before. Adam's body picked up by local police. He was attired in a SWAT outfit, including body armor, and stored in the school.

[Herbert]

A must listen:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AHlQlWhHg2c

“Drugging the brain with toxins creates the very symptoms they are supposed to cure.

Published on Dec 21, 2012

http://www.facebook.com/ConnectTheBlotsHiddenPsychPlan
"I am a Child, Adolescent and Adult Psychiatrist. I did my psychiatric residency at Lincoln Hospital and, along with my child psychology residency, also at St. Luke's Hospital of Columbia University.

I have worked with Autistic people of all ages, the Asberger's Syndrome people, Schrizophrenic people, BiPolar people, Multiple Personality Disorder people, OCD, ADD, ADHD, and pretty much every other type of labeled person in my 42+ year career since graduating from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City.

And I have never written a prescription for a psychiatric drug. Or any other type of drug, for that matter."

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Herbert (here)
A must listen:

Indeed - an important video.

I merged your new thread into the existing thread discussing this video at some length (see for example Post #260, above.)

[ghostrider]

I would think with 27 people dead, the mainstream as they always do, would show the faces of everyone killed with music in the background, all the surviving families together telling their stories. We didn't know the 9-11 hijackers but we had 9 photos in less than a day plastered on the news. Did anyone see little bodies on stretchers being rolled out of the school ? Didn't they run a emergency drill a month ago close to there ? The whole thing stinks. They forgot the police audio telling of two or possibly three shooters, one wearing camoflage hiding in the woods behind the school. The mental state of a person is never in question, only guns . A person with mental problems doesn't need a gun, remember hijackers killed 3,000 with box cutters and two airplanes, don't we need box cutter control, and airplane control ???

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Herbert (here)
A must listen:

Indeed - an important video.

I merged your new thread into the existing thread discussing this video at some length (see for example Post #260, above.)

Haaahhh... that's why my post disappeared when hitting "submit reply"... there were no longer any thread to post it in... Paul, the fastest thread merger in the Whole Wild West!

[ghostrider]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
YOU JUST MAKE NO SENSE HITTING THE PARENTS OF DEAD CHILDREN.

Alleged parents of dead children... what I've seen so far would not hold up in a court of law, what have you seen that's different?

are you emotionally attached to this idea?

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by mattymoto (here)
When I saw this I did a double take WTF!!?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w

I am doing a WTF too. I got nothing from this. Sounded like he said, "My name's Robbie Parker". It then ends. WTF?

Here's another double take....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_tmy3D6KK1Y

Wow, SG. I am glad I took the one minute to view this. It helps to explain the grin in the other vid and let us know that our eyes and bullsh!t detectors are not failing us. I hope other will spare a minute to look at this video. I don't see dead people, except in spirit.

and the kids are wearing wearing red/black/white in both photo's and the video (long known to be the colors of satanism, they are WIDELY prevalant in the musical industry with upwards of 70+% of "new artists" using these colors pirmarily).... interesting.

notice mom and dad have dark brown hair, ALL the kids have blonde hair ? I can see one or two but all three ??

[Aurvandil]

Posted by 4evrneo (here)
this link is to a DHS excercise manual of sorts and it does talk about using actors in these excercises. I havent read the entire manual but am combing through it now. It does say a couple times "Recruit actors and manage actor logistics (e.g., waiver forms, applying moulage)"

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...Jmg6hXUroi7esQ

This is where I found the link to the DHS manual, I dont know about the site http://www.knowthelies.com/node/8486 but I just thought it was another completely different twist on this event.

I thought I just quote the first post mentioning actors in this thread (as far as I know) and also the post that got me interested of this acting thing in several events.

I went to the first link which is the FEMA site and tried to download the info but couldn´t. The titles mentioned horrible stuff though - for example info about actors playing deceased from the use of sarin. The other site is down.

I have read the whole thread and seen the videos of the actors and of their appearances. Even if I think the whole staging of a event like this is totally terrible, the use of actors playing parents really makes me sick.

Anyway - I found this site on another forum: http://crisisactors.org/
I thought it could be interesting to investigate. However I do not think the actors involved here are employed by this company, their part is just too shady.

[Earth Angel]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
I would think with 27 people dead, the mainstream as they always do, would show the faces of everyone killed with music in the background, all the surviving families together telling their stories. We didn't know the 9-11 hijackers but we had 9 photos in less than a day plastered on the news. Did anyone see little bodies on stretchers being rolled out of the school ? Didn't they run a emergency drill a month ago close to there ? The whole thing stinks. They forgot the police audio telling of two or possibly three shooters, one wearing camoflage hiding in the woods behind the school. The mental state of a person is never in question, only guns . A person with mental problems doesn't need a gun,remember hijackers killed 3,000 with box cutters and two airplanes, don't we need box cutter control, and airplane control ???

but did they ?????

[applecrusher1992]

This video really puts together well the fact that there were multiple shooters involved.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
The 216.86.157.18 address appears to me to have once been the correct IP address for http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/.

According to https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=216.86.157.18, the IP address 216.86.157.18 is for the server srv1.healthfreedomusa.org hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA.

healthfreedomusa.org appears to be on the air again, at their old IP address of 216.86.157.18, which is still a site hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA (not GoDaddy, as Dr. Rima claimed in some live video linked somewhere earlier in this thread.)

Here's a screen shot of the top of their opening page as of a few minutes ago:

I see no mention of their recent outage (but I didn't look all that hard.)

On her backup website, www.SaveMyLifeDrRima.com, I see this graphic prominently displayed:

But again, I see no further explanation of their recent outage (though again I didn't look all that hard.)

For my tastes, there is a bit too much dramatizing the outage, seeking donations and selling product, and too little (none that I noticed) straight talk about what went down.

Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)

[Gardener]

Paul.....>

Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)

There is nothing genuine about the whole set up......false flag, attention grabbing, or marketing.

[RampartRanger]

Posted by Huma (here)
I am actually from Connecticut, and have lived here all my life. While I am as open to speculation about the details of what happened here, as I would any other event of note, I also am keenly aware not to project and look for shadowy figures and grand conspiracies with every wrong doing and tragedy. I can assure you there are a multitude of grieving parents who's real children really died, as is apparent with the endless *local* and not national press coverage. Plus being the tiny state that it is, it isn't hard to go there and see for yourself...

likely because some jerk off needed to take his issues out on a bunch of first graders. There are time when tragedies and crimes are simply that. I will be the first to admit that we are rarely if ever told the full story on just about anything through the media or our educational system, but from what I can tell, this one seems fairly straight forward.....so far anyway. Things could always change...

No disrespect, but what first hand or second hand evidence do you have to support your assurance that the Sandy Hook children actually died? You didn’t really provide any real reason to believe you…which isn’t necessarily a negative thing depending on your intentions but this website is about inquiry where phrases that ring of “rest assured” followed by “just look at the TV” -type statements aren’t going to make the contributions that sow enlightenment. This is not to say that you must not have evidence because of your omission of it from this above post…so if you have more to share (seeing as your assurance would seem to also have some well-sourced [evidence-based, hopefully] confidence), please do so. If you genuinely hold the beliefs you state in your above post and want to give that post credibility, please give us some hard evidence.

I concur with Paul that “Nayirah” is not Arden Wohl. That picture he posted of Arden shows her nose is much too pointy to be Nayirah.

SilverFeathers, that video showing the Gifford’s shooting “actors” along with the Sandy Hook “actors” seems like different people to me. You could make the case for the dude being the same but just heavier-set as the Gifford’s shooting “actor”, but the woman really looks different to me. Sure they’re quite similar, but, being the young buck I am, would say the Sandy Hook “actor” mom is more attractive to me than the Gifford "actor" mom. Forgive my humor…

I’m not convinced about the Phelps/Sexton connection, but I am convinced that Emily Parker’s dad is one f-ed up man regardless of whether he is an actor or a father. I could see it either way…he was an actor getting ready for his big moment and soon to be had nefarious paycheck, or he is a sick attention seeking and capitalizing father getting ready for his big moment and soon to be had interview paychecks and other MSM “perks” like his soon to be released how-to book deal titled “How to Smile and Laugh on TV Just After Your Child Has Been Murdered”. After the mysterious laughter and smiles, those deep breathes and other mannerisms/his "getting into the moment" just scream "this is my big moment" no matter how you dice it. WTH is going on with this dude is one giant enigma in itself. Someone needs to interview him with a fine tooth comb...but it won't happen, I'm sure...and that won't stop him from writing his book which will be a best seller and praised for it's "heart-wrenching insight on the pandemic of violence in America".

[heyokah]

Posted by Paul (here)
healthfreedomusa.org appears to be on the air again, at their old IP address of 216.86.157.18, which is still a site hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA (not GoDaddy, as Dr. Rima claimed in some live video linked somewhere earlier in this thread.)

...

For my tastes, there is a bit too much dramatizing the outage, seeking donations and selling product, and too little (none that I noticed) straight talk about what went down.

Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)

****

4 hours ago Dr Rima put this video on her Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/RimaELaibowMD

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ac33ysBPBcc

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by heyokah (here)
4 hours ago Dr Rima put this video on her Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/RimaELaibowMD

That was a good video - thanks.