Just in from Duncan, for those who follow his work. "2013 ... A New Year, or a Nightmare ...pt 1 "

[jaybee]

Posted by astrid (here)

[snip]

So, what's on the way?

"They" are going to take away your guns for one, and going to do it soon! Like, in weeks.
Here's a little something for all you to think about...
Remember all those reports of foreign troops being brought in to have "joint training excerises with American troops?" Remember those times?
Anyone remember them ... uh ... leaving?
Didn't think so. They have a job to do and all of you will be seeing them on the streets very soon.

[snip]

above is a quote from Duncan.... from the OP

When someone says 'weeks'...I take this to mean around anything from a couple of weeks to 12 (ish) weeks.

So we don't have long to see if what he is predicting has any merit.


Oh...and 'they' won't be taking MY gun...

because I don't have one...


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[spiritwind]

Well, thank you Astrid for getting permission from Duncan to post his most current commentary for the New Year. I'd been wondering what he might have to say. When I weigh it against other intell coming in and my own personal sense of what is coming up it fits rather well. It's going to be interesting to see, if our ability to communicate continues, how the different people on the forum living in so many different parts of the world experience what is almost certainly going to play out on American soil. See, we've been removed from the fray in so many ways. We hear about what goes on in the rest of the world but, for most of us who don't get to travel, we really aren't that close to the action going on in other parts of the world. I know when I read about what happened in Bosnia back in the 90's I realized for the first time that our way of life could change literally overnight as it did for them there. And, as one guy said who lived through it (I'm sorry, I have a massive toothache right now and I'm not going to look for where the link was posted here by someone else on the forum, I can't even remember which thread) their politicians were telling them everything was going to be okay right up until the day it wasn't. I personally see the handwriting on the wall but don't feel the need to convince anyone else. I believe there are many who are quietly preparing (let's face it Bill, most of us can't move to South America) for what we know is most likely ahead. I still encourage everyone (especially everyone in the US) to read Political Ponerology as I"ve mentioned a couple times before. You will see many parallels to what is happening right now. Also a good time to practise emotional control cause we're gonna need it.

[jaybee]

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Anyone going to the seminar in Las Vegas in January...?


http://duncanofinioan.com/Home.php


If so....please let us all know all about it


cheers


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[9eagle9]

Because of our STILL seeming indoctrination that things will happen instantly.

Stricter gun control laws everytime some manic controlled person rubs out enough people in a horrifying enough way to make the MSM is 'taking away our guns'. Like ourselves they completely ignore the problem and then try to plaster some band aid 'solution' on it.

If, as some people suggest, the government is issuing weapons and mindcontrol to the perps of some of these more horrifying events, gun control laws are not going to help anything. Our guns will be controlled, we'll still be controlled, who is controlling our government? We're supposed to be. And that might be because we have so very little control over ourselves.

Some states will see it sooner than others. The government rather reflects ourselves back to us. They talk and bark and agonize other things, and then the paperwork has to go through another tediously slow process, then the state chimes in and wrestles with itself, its public and the federal government. So yes if you observe over the years they are taking away our guns. This may not be in the form of riot police breaking into your home to snag them in mass. I'm not discounting that prediction, I basically just don't see where it's necessary..yet.

With black friday more than a week in the past we have to retrain our selves not to think of 'instant' events and 'en mass' events.

We also tend to forget that the UK had its guns taken away from them a long time ago. The UK is 'us' too.

I've also observed the economy collapsing for quite a while. I'm not sure why I was blessed with this special ability that people think they have been deprived of, but the economy has been tanking for a loooong time. Not to be accused of having the inside scoop I just happened to notice that my wallet notices this as well.

[Chuck]

A good read! Thank you to EVERYONE who has contributed. I am enlightened. You are all mirrors to myself.

I suspect this is true:

If one of us makes it, with soul intact... then we are all saved!

[markpierre]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by markpierre (here)
Surrounded by drunks and escapist fools that represented everything mindless I hate about this world.

You say "drunks" like it's a bad thing.



I hear what you are saying. The shallow world is frustrating. Duncan says "See ANY changes for the good? You won't." That's not true. That's just how Duncan chooses to see the world. I see beauty everywhere I look. And I'm not high. And I don't subscribe to the same "The world has gone to ****" view. The world is full of horrors. And the world is full of beauty. And even if everything about the human experience is pure hell, which it is not, the wind still blows. The grass still grows. Dogs and grandmas still love unconditionally. The human heart is still full of wonder.

I'm no hippy, boys and girls. I keep my powder dry. But love still rules. Go love.

Drunk (sedated) as opposed to 'sober' or lucid. The world is full of beautiful things. Behind every beautiful image is a beautiful starving or oppressed child. Or loving dog or grandmother.
Looking at one, does not cancel the other. Love can prevail, but not that superficial love.
The wind still carries the stink of burning flesh, unless you distance yourself enough. I don't think you really missed my point.
Why did we drink? For our health? Because we're so happy and free?
Real love shares the burden. It weeps at suffering. Jesus wept. There's work to do.

[PurpleLama]

Jesus drank, too. FWIW.

Posted by markpierre (here)

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by markpierre (here)
Surrounded by drunks and escapist fools that represented everything mindless I hate about this world.

You say "drunks" like it's a bad thing.



I hear what you are saying. The shallow world is frustrating. Duncan says "See ANY changes for the good? You won't." That's not true. That's just how Duncan chooses to see the world. I see beauty everywhere I look. And I'm not high. And I don't subscribe to the same "The world has gone to ****" view. The world is full of horrors. And the world is full of beauty. And even if everything about the human experience is pure hell, which it is not, the wind still blows. The grass still grows. Dogs and grandmas still love unconditionally. The human heart is still full of wonder.

I'm no hippy, boys and girls. I keep my powder dry. But love still rules. Go love.

Drunk (sedated) as opposed to 'sober' or lucid. The world is full of beautiful things. Behind every beautiful image is a beautiful starving or oppressed child. Or loving dog or grandmother.
Looking at one, does not cancel the other. Love can prevail, but not that superficial love.
The wind still carries the stink of burning flesh, unless you distance yourself enough. I don't think you really missed my point.
Why did we drink? For our health? Because we're so happy and free?
Real love shares the burden. It weeps at suffering. Jesus wept. There's work to do.

[markpierre]

In this context, nothing. FWIW.

[9eagle9]

Yes with love comes challenges . it gives love something to do. It is a motivator not a solution. Love always needs something to do. It's like the air in the compressor, you can't just let it sit there it needs an outlet. It will run an air wrench. the air itself won't fix the vehicle but it will drive the wrench that could repair it.

Duncan's outlets, the specifics, aren't loving or nice. The topics aren't. They never were. What drives him to say this is love.

I am always amazed by people who get so wound up by deficient subjects. Its not like the world was a land of milk, honey and love and suddenly someone mentions the government and the world went dark.

Lol..people are not advanced enough yet to practice will and the word, where you just say something and that makes it so.

Great love and Great Greed co exist here. That is duality.

Duncan if you read him enough has great love. He has enough love to stick his neck out and be fierce with people. Love has a benchmark of courage about it. Its easy to play with artificial love that just sits around and pines to be fulfilled or is summed up in a few catch phrases. It doesn't do anything but be passive.

He has great love for Miranda, he mentions it all the time how much he loves her even though he's not spray painting " I LOVE MIRANDA" in his blogs. One observes how much respect (another component of love) he has for her nonetheless..

He has great love of the metaphysical work he's doing.

He has great love for his cultures.

His godmother.

He has love of his workshops he conducts. I've read many of his blogs where he gushed how loving, energetic and informative they were based on the people in attendance.

A friend of mine recently conveyed that Duncan introduced my friend to a teacher that would open up new worlds for her.What do you call that? Hate? Negative? Fear mongering? I think its an aspect of love that he'd do that.

People who fear negative or deficiencies see only fear and and negative in people and in the world in general. I see a lot of love there too. Yes sometimes his topics are not about Miranda, his work, his godmother, or the other things he inadvertently tips us off to that he loves. A person who has to list a laundry list of love is tedious. If someone has to constantly go on and on about love they are deficient in it and attempting to reassure themselves of it because they don't understand it is the motivator not the solution.

Duncan understands that love is the motivator not the solution.

This is through observation and listening skills that people see this.

Truly folks, my kid loves it when I was poetic about how great she is, and she also doesn't like it when I put the poetry down, and say "you didn't do the dishes'

Both are aspects of love.

She comprehends this. She doesn't like it but she understands this.

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Because of our STILL seeming indoctrination that things will happen instantly.

Stricter gun control laws everytime some manic controlled person rubs out enough people in a horrifying enough way to make the MSM is 'taking away our guns'. Like ourselves they completely ignore the problem and then try to plaster some band aid 'solution' on it.

If, as some people suggest, the government is issuing weapons and mindcontrol to the perps of some of these more horrifying events, gun control laws are not going to help anything. Our guns will be controlled, we'll still be controlled, who is controlling our government? We're supposed to be. And that might be because we have so very little control over ourselves.

Some states will see it sooner than others. The government rather reflects ourselves back to us. They talk and bark and agonize other things, and then the paperwork has to go through another tediously slow process, then the state chimes in and wrestles with itself, its public and the federal government. So yes if you observe over the years they are taking away our guns. This may not be in the form of riot police breaking into your home to snag them in mass. I'm not discounting that prediction, I basically just don't see where it's necessary..yet.

With black friday more than a week in the past we have to retrain our selves not to think of 'instant' events and 'en mass' events.

We also tend to forget that the UK had its guns taken away from them a long time ago. The UK is 'us' too.

I've also observed the economy collapsing for quite a while. I'm not sure why I was blessed with this special ability that people think they have been deprived of, but the economy has been tanking for a loooong time. Not to be accused of having the inside scoop I just happened to notice that my wallet notices this as well.

Indeed, "they" get setbacks on their creepy-crawling progress...

WW I was behind schedule (see this post <---)

WW II could have been ended a lot earlier than it happened but they needed the Russian to be the next scapegoat and, most of all, they needed their atomic bomb to be ready to plunge the world into apathetic fear of a nuclear holocaust.

The economic melt down was supposed to have happened with Y2K but didn't (see Pete Peterson's Camelot interview).

The main, major US cities have been spiked with nukes for a long time (see the numerous Bill Deagle's interviews) but haven't been activated yet. However, with 9-11 and the likely use of Directed Energy Weapons, nukes were rendered obsolete (thanks to Araucaria for the tip).

And, with the advent of missile/drone launched EMPs to disable electronics in bulk (see this post <---), perhaps they are waiting for their sky holographs to be credible and believable before launching their version of "disclosure" with an attack from space?

All in all, there is still room for shining light on their endeavours and expose them for what they are.

[Bill Ryan]

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Copied from the critique of this thread, here:

A friend wrote to me overnight to ask my opinion of what Duncan O'Finioan wrote. Here's my reply:

I agree that Duncan is exasperated with the New Age community and its disempowering, often wishful-thinking belief systems (e.g. about ascension, or that all the insiders were just about to be arrested) -- etc. As I think you know, I always fully agreed with him about all his observations.

The main difference between Duncan and myself is his presentational style: on occasions he seems to operate more like the enraged Incredible Hulk than the leader and teacher which he is. But the Hulk was a good guy... and did save the day for the Avengers team.



And there's no doubt, for me, that Duncan's awareness serves him well. In my opinion, if Duncan calls it, we should listen carefully.

On the Avalon forum, there are quite a few requests for evidence of his claims. Here it is:

1) From Dave Hodges of The Common Sense Show (a very measured and well-written article):

Part One:
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/1...nto-hiding-why

Part Two:
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/1...ng-into-hiding

2) This information (as the Dave Hodges states) dovetails closely with the new Doug Hagmann ('Rosebud') information which emerged a few days earlier. Links to that are here. Must read also.

Part One:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305

Part Two:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310

It all fits with known scenarios and situations. This is what I was expecting earlier this year (2012), but which may now have been deferred till 2013. So far so good... but all this may still be on the cards.

Note that Alex Jones also interviewed Doug Hagmann two days ago:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vvWBD7nG7qM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvWBD7nG7qM

[Arrowwind]

Duncan and others who rant at people with their insults think that they are potentially waking people up. Words have power if they are projected loudly or softley. That you have to listen to Duncans tone of voice is bunk. Listen to the words. Words stick and have power. In the begining was the word...not in the beginning was the tone of voice.

Many people understand what is at stake. Who the hell needs someone telling them that they are not awake, stupid, on their asses, not listening.

Quite frankly, the way I see it is that the masses have no recourse when when faced with American military might if it should be turned on them, either though American military or an imported foreign force. Dont you think that we know that deep in our gut?... and dont you think that this is really why we have not had a revolution?

Most of us do not have the funds to enter a bunker in Colorado. Nor due we have the resources to defend ourselves against nuclear or energy weapons. Nor do we have the ability to defend ourselves against arial spraying or any other high tech weaponry that you can think of. We have not been able to stop our government in its participations in war anywhere!

What would you have us do? What would you have the masses do who live in the huge cities of our nation? People with no weapons, no money, totally susceptible to all kinds of high tech weaponry... Just what the hell does Duncan want the people to do?

Any resistance of any substance will be put down in a bloody bath. Occupy Wall Street has shown us what they will do when they decide to get even just a little bit nasty with us.... really, just a tiny bit nasty compared to the potential. What do you think would happen if 5 million rose up? Really, what do you think would happen? and here they are shutting down websites already.

But we get these personallities nagging at us to wake up but they really give us no idea of what we should do. Do you really think that arming yourself with guns at all will benefit you against such treasonous, murderous intentions that he predicts? I have chosen that I would go down fighting.

What should people do that have children? have elders? handicaped?

We could all up and move to Ecuador... yes, some could... but the vast majority wont becasue we have family and connections to the earth right here, nor the vast majority do not have the monetary resources to do so... to run.

Frankly I dont want to listen to someone nagging at me that Im an idiot, Im on my ass, or my knees, or that I am incapable of thinking and not listening to others. I want some real viable solutions from all these folks who place themselves in the spotlight, who think they have all the answers, who clearly have deterimend that we are all asleep and only they are awake.

If they are awake I want the dam answers to my questions.

Since no real answers have come my way except from a very select few that I have chosen that reflect a potential reality that I might be able to interface with, I have gone on making my own choices in my own way for my own life sustenence with no help from those who tell me the terror that is out there, who have called me and millions of others not too different from me that we are hopeless and on our asses. I have discussed my choices many times on this forum.

When the likes of Duncan start presenting real solutions instead of terrorizing people with stories adnausem, I will listen to him more.

So should we arm ourselves? prepare for war? die a hero under the fire of high tech weapons we stand no chance against?
Just what is the solution? I'm dam tired of discussing the problem.

[Carmody]

as for proof.

I could back the things I'm saying, in some cases, specific cases. I could provide credentials by providing science that is yet to be or is on the verge of discovery. I could provide science that would upset everyone's applecart and bring credence to what I say. (which, BTW, I do regularly on this forum. I have a 2 year history of doing exactly that)

But real, world changing proofs? Proofs that enable people and get them moving?

This would result in about 5 or 10 people on the given forum understanding what I'm saying. And I'd be the hero of the moment, on that given forum.

But soon, I'd get cancer or have an accident, and depending on the data, possibly die quickly.

The result is that I provide proof, but at great personal cost....and my life and efforts have been made effectively non-existent. and the rest of the world will see that one tiny moment.... as ephemeral and non-real 'internet bull****'.

This is effectively where we stand with the demands for 'proof'.

Dead people.... and 5 others satisfied ....and the rest?..... thinking and believing that it is all bull****.

[Fred Steeves]

Personally I have no problem with what Duncan says. A lot of it makes sense, I respect him and his history, and we would probably be friends if we were neighbors. Thing is though, being the stubborn cuss that I am, I learn through equal interaction with other knowledgeable people, not being talked to like I'm a dumb f**k. If that works for some people then great, more power to ya, it just doesn't work with me.

I don't recall ever learning anything in this world from someone talking down to me, except how to deal with someone talking down to me. But hey, that's something...(LOL)

Cheers,
Fred

[Arrowwind]

You can discuss all the problems in the world till you are blue in the face.
Discussing problems without moving forward solutions only instills fear.

[CdnSirian]

We are dealt with certain realities now, more intensely. Awareness inevitably brings conflict.

I am aware of the origin of the rare earth/metals that make our electronics work. But if I were to give up those devices, I would not be able to function in this arena, or any other, currently.

I have written and have had published, a small work, about this very topic. And been asked to present a short performance film about it...which I may not be able to pull off, lacking the very technology I need to do this at a presentable level of quality. Using devices made workable by those child-mined metals...it's a Catch 22.

Back to the OP and the many points it has brought up in this thread -

I am not devoid of momentary terrors - which I use the tools I have to move on from, pretty well daily.

I realize that all many of us can do is to remain calm and observant when S**t goes down, when the manipulations are right in our face and we see what's coming.

And must use our will to maintain the best energy vision we can, while we take whatever action is necessary. That we can.

"The Solution" thread spells it out. 9 Eagle 9 has taken time to point out the love motivation behind the OP viewpoint.

Many on this thread have offered excellent points. I've read it through twice and what more is there to say. Except that we have our conflicts to deal with. Getting rid of the computer won't release those kids in the mines. That comes later. Their part is to motivate us.

"What's in your wallet"? Investments lost, work hours lost, credit lost. You can't miss the collapsing economy, well, most of us.

Can't travel or take days off to get to a survival workshop? Can't get out of town? Can't this, can't that?

Decide what you can do.

Years ago I heard Bashar say "you are your government". 9 Eagle 9 said the same above.

I know many people who never vote. They deprive themselves of the input they could have on the local level...which counts, in my opinion. You can start with the neighborhood watch, where you meet your neighbors. You see who is assertive, who is connected, who is alone. You see which cops donate their time for this. You might learn about your local politicians and what they're up to. Knowledge is at least some power.

You start where you are, and do what you can do.

And soon I must get off Avalon - it's both a gift, and an escape.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Carmody (here)
as for proof.

I could back the things I'm saying, in some cases, specific cases. I could provide credentials by providing science that is yet to be or is on the verge of discovery. I could provide science that would upset everyone's applecart and bring credence to what I say. (which, BTW, I do regularly on this forum. I have a 2 year history of doing exactly that)

But real, world changing proofs? Proofs that enable people and get them moving?

This would result in about 5 or 10 people on the given forum understanding what I'm saying. And I'd be the hero of the moment, on that given forum.

But soon, I'd get cancer or have an accident, and depending on the data, possibly die quickly.

The result is that I provide proof, but at great personal cost....and my life and efforts have been made effectively non-existent. and the rest of the world will see that one tiny moment.... as ephemeral and non-real 'internet bull****'.

This is effectively where we stand with the demands for 'proof'.

Dead people.... and 5 others satisfied ....and the rest?..... thinking and believing that it is all bull****.

If it were me, I certainly would not jeopardize my life and family because someone on an internet forum demanded proof from me.

Often when I speak, I need the reader to trust that what I say comes from a long history of diligent practice, study, and personal integrity. The currency that I buy that trust with is the content of my collective posts which anyone can review if they want to know what kind of person I am.

Carmody has earned some trust over two years of posting. I take him at face value. If he says he has information or unspoken data to back up what he says, that is good enough for me.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[Arrowwind]

Posted by CdnSirian (here)
I realize that all many of us can do is to remain calm and observant when S**t goes down, when the manipulations are right in our face and we see what's coming.

this question is not directed just at you CdnSirian, but to the group at large.
So we know the problems, we see the manipulations.
What next?
Hope to dart out of the way fast enough
when they come to hit home? Ultimately, will speaking be enough?

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the seed holders and harvesters,
and I didn't speak out because I didn't grow food,
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the gun owners,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a gun owner,
Then they came for the raw milk producers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a milk producer,
then they came for the local organic folks breaking them with regulation,
but I didn't speak out because I did not eat organic,
then they came for the first ammendment promoters,
but I didn't even know what the first ammendent was so I was silent,
then they came with concentration camps across our lands,
but I did not speak out for my neighbors grimace,
then they came with false flag events,
then they came with chemtrails across my azure sky,
and when I spoke they called me crazy,
but I didn't speak out for further social fears and intimidation,
then they came with foreign troops hidden before our eyes,
and I did not speakout because I could not see,

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Carmody (here)
as for proof.

I could back the things I'm saying, in some cases, specific cases. I could provide credentials by providing science that is yet to be or is on the verge of discovery. I could provide science that would upset everyone's applecart and bring credence to what I say. (which, BTW, I do regularly on this forum. I have a 2 year history of doing exactly that)

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the proof evidence thread is here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...028#post608028