Just in from Duncan, for those who follow his work. "2013 ... A New Year, or a Nightmare ...pt 1 "

[Selene]

Posted by Arrowwind
[Edited by Selene] Quite frankly, the way I see it is that the masses have no recourse …..Don’t you think that we know that deep in our gut?... Most of us do not have the funds to….. Nor do we have the resources ….. Nor do we have the ability …. We have not been able to stop …. What would you have us do?... Just what the hell does Duncan want the people to do?


But we get these personalities nagging at us to wake up but they really give us no idea of what we should do. …..What should people do that have children? have elders? handicaped?


Frankly I don’t want to listen to someone nagging at me …..I want some real viable solutions from all these folks who place themselves in the spotlight, who think they have all the answers, who clearly have determined that we are all asleep and only they are awake.

If they are awake I want the dam answers to my questions.

Much as I appreciate your heartfelt cry for someone “who is awake” to tell you what to do, Arrowwind, that’s precisely the wrong question to ask.

No one – no matter how well informed or well meaning they may be – can or should be telling you what to do about your situation.

That’s the problem: we each need to find our own bearings, our own inner compass and solution. And do the next step from there.

And don’t snort that you’re plenty “inner knowing” already. That’s precisely my point: if your external situation is dissatisfactory, that’s a sign that we may need to do more inner work to find our own integrity. (I am not speaking of you alone here, AW, but your post serves as a good example of the plaint of many others. I hope you will allow me to use it as a springboard here.)

When we cry: What’s the use? What’s the point? What can I do – I cannot do ‘everything’, so I will therefore do ‘nothing’ – that’s exactly the kind of disempowering deer-in-the-headlights freeze that works perfectly to ensure that you will not be able to respond appropriately to your unique situation. You can’t fix everybody’s problem, but you can work on your own.

Look, it’s normal to feel overwhelmed by fear when you first realize what’s happening around you. As the astronauts are fond of saying: “If you aren’t scared spitless, you don’t fully understand the situation...”. It’s okay to feel afraid, or frozen or helpless. The trick is to take the next step and move somehow, anyway. To feel the fear and yet be able to act in your own best interest. Some of that response will be instinctive, some will be trained, some will come from a realm you never knew existed until you needed it.

What should you do?

It’s very simple: just do the next thing, the immediate thing, from right where you are now. That’s all.

And then look around and see what you need to do next.

The rest will follow.

All my best wishes,

Selene

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[Flash]

Arrowind, you have been coming with what seems a sense of urgency for a few days now.

You do have a good mind and a good heart, and it is not in your habit to force drill down thing on us like this by asking what we do, asking for justifications, giving moral lessons or asking for action. Therefore I presume you have seen/heard/felt something lately.

I would very much like to know what it is that make you change behavior on the forum. What are your psychic abilities telling you precisely? Without the lessons. Just the plain feeling or vision?

You may or may not answer, up to you, but I would really like to know.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Selene (here)
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What should you do?

It’s very simple: just do the next thing, the immediate thing, from right where you are now. That’s all.

And then look around and see what you need to do next.

The rest will follow.

All my best wishes,

Selene

So no collective action. Just individual pillars of light who will somehow know what to do when the tanks come rolling down the road. Hmm.. I hadn't considered how effective that might be. In this case I and you will be needing all the best wishes possible

[Selene]

The mistake would be to assume that nothing else can or will trigger you into action, that only "tanks coming down the road" can happen.

Bad is the plan that will admit no changes....

I prefer flexibility and awareness, myself. It opens up many alternative avenues of response.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Selene (here)
The mistake would be to assume that nothing else can or will trigger you into action, that only "tanks coming down the road" can happen.

Bad is the plan that will admit no changes....

I prefer flexibility and awareness, myself. It opens up many alternative avenues of response.

Well according to Duncan it will be tanks coming down the road to move people nto the awareness that yes, indeed your reality is about to change..
What concrete, tangible things are people doing?

[Heartsong]

Just a question..
We've heard that government employees are retiring and moving, that bankers are taking to the hills..
Have we heard anything about businesses taking a get-ready position? What are the Walmarts, KMarts, Kroger's and Safeway doing midst all this foreboding information?

[Arrowwind]

Posted by sleepy (here)
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This is just my opinion but they will not get past #4. I just do not see that happening.

then you haven't been looking around, IMHO.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Flash (here)
Arrowind, you have been coming with what seems a sense of urgency for a few days now.

You do have a good mind and a good heart, and it is not in your habit to force drill down thing on us like this by asking what we do, asking for justifications, giving moral lessons or asking for action. Therefore I presume you have seen/heard/felt something lately.

I would very much like to know what it is that make you change behavior on the forum. What are your psychic abilities telling you precisely? Without the lessons. Just the plain feeling or vision?

You may or may not answer, up to you, but I would really like to know.

I have no psychic abilitites above and beyond anyone else on this forum. In general, I simply read the writing on the wall. I'd like to think that we will not loose our rights to bear arms but I am not convinced that it will not happen... consequently lots of letter writing this past week.


I am dismayed that as a collective of people who seek to maintain freedom little in solutions has been presented. If I knew the solutions I would be screaming them from the rooftops... the small voice inside says a monumentous revolution is requried, moving millions into action.

I will keep asking for solutions until the day I die. I will not be a willy nilly newager hoping for the aliens or the light or anyone one else to save me or us. I am woefully aware that what I have prepared may not be enough considering the nature of the force that is present to destroy our freedom. If my freedom is destroyed so will be yours, my children, your children and likely that of most of the world.

I will keep asking as I have done many times on this forum... so no, this is not a new question for me to be asking.

I think that a solutions platform needs to be addressed but you wont be hearing one from Duncan in my estimation. When I put up a post about the thrive movement solutions platform some here smacked me in the face.

I will keep asking because I want an answer. I will not stop asking regardless of how disagreeable some may find it, and I can understand that the request for solutions can be very disturbing when one looks at their reality and sees none that will ge the job done

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxxx

[Arrowwind]

Posted by sleepy (here)
Arrowind,

I respect your message and your opinion but let me tell you what I see when I look around. I live in Colorado and at our last big gun show about two days ago the lines went around the block. Background checks for buying a weapon are so backed up that what should take a few hours is now taking up to ten days. They are processing more concealed carry permits than ever at a record-breaking rates. The price of an assault rifle has doubled and they are sold out. People are stocking up on ammunition and it is flying off the shelves. This is what I see where I live. If you want to see people in my state take to the streets, try and tell them they can’t have their guns. The PTB know this if I know it. Again, we can disagree but I know what I see when I look around my town

Im not surprised that this is happening and this urgency purchasing has happened before. It also spawned the opening of new ammo factories in the US. I am trying to remain optimistic that our freedoms will remain intact. But in light of this last school shooting there is a huge momentum rising to take guns away. Certainly if this comes to pass you will see some state rights issues coming forward and a willingness to throw the feds out of state lines. We, IMHO, must take a stand. Did you listen to the video Bill Ryan posted... just one example of what is going on out there. I doubt the ptb are too concerned about us taking to the streets as their guns are bigger than ours and always will be. Maybe better than taking to the streets is taking off from work... but most Americans live hand to mouth these days so its a very scary affair.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxxx

[Arrowwind]

Repression of speech is the first tactical movment.

Facebook closes progun accounts.

http://www.examiner.com/article/face...counts?cid=rss

[Freed Fox]

I share the desire to be proactive, but if action is taken that is misguided or shortsighted, then it could result in doing more harm than good.

The time may come to take a stand, but it has to come at the right time. Start organizing too soon, or under an overly-aggressive banner, and the whole thing will be defeated or deflated. There has been "a big push" for gun control since Newtown, but in reality it has been little more than talk (so, as you can see, the other side has the same issue as us, in a way). To be honest, any real, practical course of action (outside of OWS-style protests) will not gain the proper support until the public at large has awaken to these realities. We can each do our part to help that happen, but I tend to think it will not happen en-mass until the tanks actually do hit the streets. You may think of that point as being too late to do anything, but I believe it will be the tipping point for the movement we desire to form and take off in earnest.

I'm not saying that being proactive is not a virtue. But the so-called PTB have immense measures in place to monitor and survey the population. You don't want "the answer" to be silenced and labeled by the MSM as a grassroots terrorist network that was taken out before unleashing hell.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxxx

[another bob]

A human being cannot “sell its soul” any more than a character/avatar in a video game can sell its player. Nevertheless, all the character’s virtual experiences will go into the player’s file, as recorded data, and that file will consequently serve to determine the player’s next adventure in gaming.

for more, see http://theconsciousprocess.wordpress...owers-that-be/



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Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
with this special ability that people think they have been deprived of, but the economy has been tanking for a loooong time. Not to be accused of having the inside scoop I just happened to notice that my wallet notices this as well.

Great new profile pic, Grail Maiden!

[blufire]

Thanks astrid for relaying this information to us from Duncan.

I have always liked Duncan and I feel no different with this latest blog. I feel complete frustration rolling off his words in waves. . . .what is so clear to him and (has been for years) is amazing to him that so few of us can see what he sees so clearly. In my defense I will have to say things are becoming clearer to me with each passing week.

Oddly though, with my new ‘remembered’ revelations I do not feel anger or fear or sadness etc . . . . what I can say I feel is something akin to “Well hell, how come I couldn’t see this before and all these past years?”

Yes, our guns will be taken away in a matter of weeks, but not in the form of a physical removal (not yet any way). Legislation will be enacted that has already been put in place via the Patriot Act and/or Obama’s Health Care Plan that will allow them to move forward in actual physical removal of all tools that could be considered ‘weapons’. This is just another step as Duncan said that, has been strategically implemented for thousands of years. Where Duncan’s words falter for me a bit though is his only insistence this is a war for our souls. I feel this is another “thought process’ that has been thoroughly implanted in our minds that keeps us derailed from understanding the ultimate outcome.

We are (on global scale) being moved forward (quickly now) into a One World Government or perhaps you could say a United Earth. This idea has been brandied about for so long that it has lost its full meaning and more specifically the impact of such a goal and what it would mean to humanity to achieve. It also, has been colored with only negative fearful implications . . . as in something we should not want or strive for.

What ‘they’ are implementing step by step is exactly what would enable this type of governing body to be put in place. It will take 25 to 50 more years . . . . . and these will be horrible, traumatic years for most . . . but for those who are ‘aware’ or ‘awake’ (pesky little words) to see this is where we are headed can position themselves and adapt enough that most of this turmoil will pass them by.

Arrowwind, you and others like we-R-one are demanding proof and solutions. We first need to fairly agree where we are headed and what ‘their’ plan is . . . .even if it is on a very basic foundational level.

I would propose we first see if we on this forum could do this and also determine if this ultimate outcome (NWO or United Earth) would be a bad or negative thing. After all . . . before we can become a member of something like The United Federation of Planets (200 or 300 years down the road) we first have to become a United Planet . . . don’t you think? It definitely won’t be pleasant getting to this point but ‘they’ are actually leading us down this very path.

We are the other swing of the pendulum in our ever continuing quest of perpetuating our duality. The ironic thing is ‘we’ want this beautiful abundant future, in which, ‘they’ are leading the way. What we haven’t become ‘aware’ of is that our swing to the other side of duality needs to be tempered enough that we balance ‘their’ side of the pendulum so that more of humanity will enter this new abundant world and we will obtain it quicker and kinder.

We get stuck on the immediate actions and fail to determine the ultimate outcome or goal.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by Selene (here)
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What should you do?

It’s very simple: just do the next thing, the immediate thing, from right where you are now. That’s all.

And then look around and see what you need to do next.

The rest will follow.

All my best wishes,

Selene

So no collective action. Just individual pillars of light who will somehow know what to do when the tanks come rolling down the road. Hmm.. I hadn't considered how effective that might be. In this case I and you will be needing all the best wishes possible

if you have food, you will not die, if you have water you will not die, if you don't buy machine guns, you will not die...

if you threaten to Fight you will be hauled away, if you have no food or water, you might want to join them...

keeping a cool head is going to protect you and your family...

Having enough food to last 2-3 months, is long enough to last until help makes it...

if you have done that, everything Duncan says is ready, now relax...

we'll tell ya when to freak out, not Duncan, a person who claims MK Ultra is helping humanity...

getting handed notes by a secret insider...

on his way to the country club to laugh with his buddies about the next conspiracy...

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Repression of speech is the first tactical movment.

Facebook closes progun accounts.

http://www.examiner.com/article/face...counts?cid=rss

they failed to close this one so they are not fully on top of any agenda. And natural news that got shut down today is open again with the "offending post" intact.
http://www.facebook.com/2ndAmendmentSupporters

[9eagle9]

As recently demonstrated the collective can't get along well enough to have a collective solution. The first time the problem is addressed and it causes conflict then one has just shut the door on a collective solution. A collective means everyone. Not just a lot of people, mostly, let's exclude the one's we don't like. That is not a collective that is dividing.

There are a lot of people I don't like. I wouldn't exclude them based on my dislike from any solution. I think I am correct in saying that the solution should address why I dislike them in the first place, so thus take care of that problem when the solution is provided for everyone.

It is crazy making to demand answers from others and when they give them to you , one tells the other to shut up. Or that the answer is 'wrong' simply because you have a personal dislike of the mouth that answered what YOU asked for. A dialog would be started if one could simply say, that won't work for me because.....

You know how much time people have saved me by saying You are doing that wrong.

You're about to step in a hole.

Your fly is unzipped.



Neither do people like to be ignored when they ask for answers. Then they don't like the answers. Then they don't like the person whom the answer came from. Or the like the person but the answer didn't help them.
There is no progress there.

However we have one thing we have control over. Ourselves. We have been given one life to manage. If we wait around for solutions we aren't managing our lives. Maybe we keep coming back again and again until we learn. Our life to control. If we are managing others or demanding from others we become parasitical. We become what we are trying to resolve.

Duncan has learned the importance of managing one's self and the means to do it. He has a challenge that none of us will experience in such a extreme way. We are lucky. We didn't have direct mind control, chems, auto hypnosis, and split personalities and altars to contend with. He has and will continue over coming it. I imagine its an excruciating challenge, hard, painful--- the things he must wrestle with in the dead of the night.

That was not a good reason NOT to do it. If he can overcome all that, I think we can spade out our mommy issues. Or our 'I wasn't nutured' issues.

But we still don't want to do it. I'd imagine he gets angry that he had to climb a mountain and everyone is moaning that they can't kick at a anthill because someone isn't around to tell them how to do it or do it for them. Or want the responsiblity at all. We experience that in our domestic relationships where one person is shouldering the burden of work, domestic responsiblities and someone is complaining that they had to feed the cat. If we are honest with our selves we know trivial stuff like that makes us angry.

The people who are complaining about not having a solution are the ones not doing the work. My house has never been cleaned with a magick wand. It's cleaned because I dragged the vaccumn out.

We can learn to manage it, and dig down into our problem (which is a collective problem) and eventually we will dig enough to where there is no problem. No solution needed. No solution is needed if the problem is no longer there.

If we can't manage our own emotional bodies and mental bodies that means we are not managing ourselves, so we create a space for something to come in and manage us . That is why MK ultra targets people when they are young. They have little in the way of self management skills.

There is no collective solution that will have us because we have become part of the problem. . If we take our personal problems into a committee or a collective solution we destroy it. I don't care where I go in the world someone will be saying something that doesn't comfort me. Gas is going up. Food is going up. They may take our guns. What Duncan says does not comfort me. Neither does it frighten me. Neither will I deny or avoid it.

What he says may not go down like that for me. It may go down for someone else and I know this because that has ALREADY happened. I don't think someone is going to drive a tank down the back forty here. They may in Detroit. If one has ever been to Detroit that is not really such a bad thing. But if its in your neighborhood it takes on a different ring.

A collective solution if one exists is not going to be about comfort. Anything a collective offers will offer a challenge to stretch yourself. It will be hard. You would have to work hard on yourself as in indivdual just to be part of the collective in a way that is not destructive. There is not a sustainablity community in the world that says "Come on in and lounge around while we put by fifty tons of hay"

When you advance far enough in that work you realize you don't need a collective. Individuals with the ability to be harmonious in a collective sense would be optimal but I' m not expecting miracles.

That is the only thing we can manage. I have no solution other than to dig away at the probelm as it exists within myself. That is the ONE thing I have ULTIMATE control over. ME. Collectively the only thing I can offer is 'here are my tools. ' Start digging.

I am one person. I can't help 7 billion people in a meaningful way. I can help myself I can learn to manage myself. no one will fix me. I can't ask that people fix me. I especially can't ask if I am not willing to help myself.

For me I will be oaky. A lot of people will be oaky -doeky. That doesn't mean something bad isn't going to happen, or I won't be challenged, but I will be okay. Because I have done some work to make me competent and resourceful, prepared, and not get tangled up in fright where I'm tripping over my feet.

That won't apply to everyone nor did I include everyone in that scenario not because I hate people but because so many people are not doing their own work.

Okay. We will be okay IF we do our inner work. Again this not to say nothing will happen, or we won't be challenged. We have then prepared ourselves to meet challenges. Once we are okay then maybe maybe people as individuals can conjure up this dream solution of beams of light and ufo's.