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    Default How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    Many of us here think that corporations are a main component of the implementation of a very dark world order. Yet corporations need us to exist. They need our money. What can we do as individuals to break the backs of negative corporations.

    Who are the negative corporations that need breaking?
    How can we go about this in an effective manner?

    Lets brainstorm!

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    Thanks Arrowwind - I suggest removing your support - financial .........stop buying off them and get out of debt to them. Pay of your mortgage and credit cards if you have either. Be as self sufficient as you can.
    Im sure there are many other things...........

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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    Buying is granthing power to the producer. Buying is voting. Buying is being tributary.

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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    Non-Compliance...

    Start educating yourself as to 'Why' this thread is so important...

    Get to know the Govt./Corporate links...

    i.e. This morning on ABC News Australia they were talking about the pending 'US Fiscal Cliff', painting the 'Corporate/MSM/Govt.' propaganda machine into fooling the general public into the thinking that no decision has been made between the Democrats & Reublicans...

    Only then to 'Tell Us' that a 'Private Teleconference Meeting' had to be postponed between the...

    Quote President & CEO's of America's Largest Corporations...

    What does that tell ya..?!

    It's common term is 'Govt/Corporate Fascism'..!
    1st it was the 'Bailouts'...
    • QE-1
    • QE-2
    • QE-3

    Now the 'Fiscal Cliff'...

    With them 'REPEATING EXACTLY THE SAME 'MANTRA of LIES'...

    Quote "If we don't shore up support, we'll hit the 'Middle Class' with 'Tax-Hikes' (What a Joke)..!
    Its like bloody 'Ground-Hog Day' for those of us paying attention...

    PS - News for 'some' of you...

    The decision was made Long-Long Ago, they are just now getting around to telling us all again & again & again...

    You see, if you don't start to 'Educate Yourself' on how the 'System' operates, how in hell do you hope to stop it..???

    PSS -

    Ron Paul On The Fiscal Cliff: “We Have Passed The Point Of No Return

    Zero Hedge
    December 30, 2012

    In a little under three minutes, Ron Paul explains to a somewhat nonplussed CNBC anchor just how ridiculous the charade that is occurring in D.C. actually is.

    This succinct spin-free clip should be required viewing for each and every asset-manager, talking-head, propagandist, and mom-and-pop who are viewing the last-minute idiocy of the ‘fiscal cliff’ debacle with some hope that things will be different this time.

    “We have passed the point of no return where we can actually get our house back in order,” Paul begins, adding that “they pretend they are fighting up there, but they really aren’t. They are arguing over power, spin, who looks good, who looks bad; all trying to preserve the system where they can spend what they want, take care of their friends and print money when they need it.” With social safety nets available to rich and poor, there is no impetus for change and “the country loses,” but Paul concludes, the markets are starting to say “there is a limit to this.”


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=rlD189IZo1w

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul...no-return.html

    PSSS - Cmon (WORLD) Wake the 'F' Up..!!!
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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    One thing that has had a lot of concern to me it that the supreme court ruled that corporations are individuals and they can send as much money as they want to buy candidates making our votes more than worthless, but an insult to even particpate anymore.

    Is non compliance in voting the answer? or what?
    petitions to the white house?
    to congress to the senate?

    putting our money where our mouth is is certainly a good way. and retracting money from those who would control us and engage in slave labor of all the various sorts that exists these days.

    gonna watch that video as soon as Im done here with George Carlin... I swear, carlin is really obscene... and so right on.

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    Push for socialist representation, corporations hate socialists for a reason. Fat chance of success in the USA though I admit..

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    a few weeks ago there was a facebook protest against general mills for using gmo products in their cheerios. Their facebook sites were inundated with comments regarding their crappy food and informing about the gmo issue.

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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    The recognition that international bankers (tip-top of the pyramid) and large corporations (top of the pyramid) are the control structure is the premise upon which The Reset Button document is written.

    Occupy Oakland created a one-day strike. Someone in Occupy called for a "bank transfer day" (more than six months after the same idea was published in The Reset Button), and billions of dollars were transferred. So, people do realize that we can have a powerful effect on the corporations, but...

    ...it is impotent to have a one day strike (and only in one city.) Only a nationwide strike with no ending date has the power to force the change.

    It is impotent to move money from banks without simultaneously divesting from corporations.

    The strategy in The Reset Button assumes that a nationwide strike, divestment, and moving money from the banks would all occur simultaneously. We citizens have exponentially more power if these actions are taken simultaneously, not piecemeal.

    The nationwide strike is the big "tool" (I don't like using the word "weapon", 'cause we're the good guys) that can provide leverage to get our demands met (and anything less than the demands listed in The Reset Button would be tragically underplaying our hand.) Our demands would put us in charge of our own governance.

    The Reset Button remains the only serious attempt to make a transformative change. All actions (protest, petitions, voting, not voting) by activists are falling on deaf ears, and are all based on the premise that those in power will change themselves (and create citizen-centric and eco-centric laws and policy) - going against the agenda of the corporatists that put them in power. They will not. They will never. They must be forced to change the election laws, and the only leverage strong enough is a nationwide strike and simultaneous divestment.

    Dennis


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    Yes Dennis I agree. The issue for us is - how do we get everyone to unite.

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    A few years ago now, I stopped playing.

    I quit making my credit card payments, a PLC payment, and my insurance. I challenged the debt under the FDCPA, by requesting the four cornerstones of contract law, which are: Full disclosure, meeting of the minds, exchange of consideration, and BOTH wet ink signatures. They could provide none of the above. I challenged their authority, their claim as creditors and how they are injured, by requesting the 1099OID original issue, the original deposit receipts, the CUSIP#, and the accounting based on first hand knowledge. The debt went away. I don't file anything or sign anything anymore.

    Since then, I have taken the Federal Reserve Notes I acquire by trading my energy each day, which I used to use to service debt, and put them into long term storage foods, resources for my own provisions, and I buy local from local vendors, even if I have to pay more. I do not spend money at any big box stores, or participate in any of their holiday consumer rituals. I have no bank account and pay cash for everything.

    If I could get off the electric and oil grids, I would. I would pay 10K for a device which would power my home, in an instant. I am looking into a hydrogen booster for my vehicle this year. I am researching and keeping my finger on the pulse of any emerging technology which could facilitate more freedom and sovereignty.

    I have studied extensively into the patriot movements and sovereignty movements in the last few years, and continue to do so. Although I have not rescinded all my adhesion contracts, or declared myself separate from the 14th amendment corporate citizenship, I am ready to do so as tyranny closes in.

    I speak my truth as clear as possible, honoring and respecting others and their journey to their own truths. I support my local community. I drink pure water, eat raw organic foods, and avoid the toxicity I am surrounded with as much as possible. I detox on a regular basis. I am incorporating into my protocol this year the Dr Schuessler mineral cell salts, to enliven the master pineal gland, so that the oils will stimulate the other glands, and awaken the 90% of junk DNA in my cerebrum, which is not junk. I would also like to develop the philosophers stone as outlined in "The Book of Aquarius"

    I freely share what I know to be true here at Avalon, and will continue to do so, while keeping my mouth shut when I am not able to add value, or edify the topic at hand. I will inject humor wherever I can.

    This is my new years manifesto, if you will, or my resolution. Happy New year to all here at Avalon, and may you too move away from the corporatocracy and the slave control system as much as possible this year.
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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    thank you for all these great replies that are potential solutions to what we are contending with.

    Dennis... can you provide info on the reset button... is it a book? what is it exactly and how can I view it?

    Gripreaper.... thank you for sharing your personal journey. You are freer than I. I am trying to do what you are doing and am having some success in different areas., other areas still need work

    I just feel that no matter what I do it isn't enough, will never be enough. As Dennis says it takes a mass movement to affect change. How to get everyone to play is the issue.

    Does everyone think that all corporations must be boycotted? Are some good? If so which ones... lets make a list of good guys and bad guys.
    Certainly Walmart is on my list. But many seem convoluted and confusing when you try to weigh the good with the bad. So much is at stake for so many people. For instance... homedepot.. I know several young men making their way through college because of homedepot and their education program. I have a neice who has worked her way up to store management without a college education. We get 10 to 15 percent off of everything becasue my husband is a vet. We are building the 10% off house right now. I dont know about homedepot in detail all their business practices but surely all corporations are not bad.

    I do realize that some companies are environmentally sound, and are endeavoring to do right... on the other hand I dont want to support environmental organizations or businesses that will work to move agenda 21 forward.

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    Thank you Gripreaper - amazing

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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    Dennis... can you provide info on the reset button... is it a book? what is it exactly and how can I view it?
    Here: The Reset Button 2012
    My quite dormant website: pauljackson.us

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    The recognition that international bankers (tip-top of the pyramid) and large corporations (top of the pyramid) are the control structure is the premise upon which The Reset Button document is written.
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

    Dennis... so you wrote the Reset Button document?
    I'm really impressed.


    Did you get significant signatures? has it been submitted to anyone?

    I notice that it was written last spring or so? Does it need updating?

    Have you put it on the petitions list at us.gov? here: at this address https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

    there is also another petitions program where it can go. I'll have to look around for it.

    Its late here. I will read it tomorrow

    and dang, I see another day coming where I get nothing constructive done

    but dancing in my head here on the forum




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    Thanks Paul. I signed it Dennis - says Im a supporter not a signer like everyone else - perhaps because Im not a local. (got the email and clicked)

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    Dennis, I recommend that you change the name to "TheResetButton2012andBeyond"

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    Default Re: How to Break the Backs of Corporations

    Grip, you are awesome. I may end up finding it to be true that a personal de-linking and off-gridding are the only workable steps I can take. But for now, I still hold the torch of hope for a mass movement... because:

    1.) War, the war paradigm, war-for-profit, US imperialism, millions upon millions dead and injured, leaders murdered, countries infrastructure destroyed, countries taken over. None of this will ever change for the better without a mass movement. I cannot ever be "content" or "happy" or "at peace" while my country of birth (and allied nations) commits these atrocities.

    2.) Pollution, environmental degradation, species extinction, poisonous farmland with dead soil, genetically modified organisms. None of this will ever change for the better without a mass movement - and there is nowhere on Earth we can run away to that is not affected. I cannot just live with this and save myself. It would be like having one canteen full of pure water, in the middle of a desert, with a group of thirsty people - and drinking it all by myself.

    3.) Energy (benign, abundant, non-polluting) technology suppression. This will never change without a mass movement. Wade Frazier has made the creation of this mass movement his life's work. (His concept of a 'mass movement' is novel, but in the end, he knows that a mass movement is required to make any change in the energy paradigm.)

    4.) Corporatocracy/fascism. (back to Arrowwind's topic) We know that corporations are at their legal roots sociopathic entities, and now we know what happens when we give sociopathic entities unbridled access to the government and to the environment and to the the work force of the least developed foreign nations (and its effect on the workforce of one's own nation): metastasis of power and control, unprecedented pollution, human rights violations, poverty, and even slavery.

    I'll stop there. That list is big enough. One item (any one item) on that list is enough to tell me that I cannot isolate and do my part alone and in obscurity - I HAVE to try to rally others into a mass movement.

    Ronnie Cummins (Organic Consumers Association) recently wrote an article and published at CommonDreams where he recognizes that single-issue activism and thousands of non-united activists are not getting the job done. The article (New Year’s Revolution: Connecting the Dots, Coming Together and Fighting Like Hell) focused mainly on climate, but Ronnie mentions other issues as well. The article does not go far enough - but it is a start. One critical thing not mentioned is the fact that activists are lost somewhere in the distant past in thinking that a mass voice telling TPTB to "STOP!" will make them stop. As if millions of people, raising their voices in chorus, chanting "Stop Corporate Greed!" is going to stop corporate greed. We have to be a lot smarter than that.

    Delusions of the power of protest:
    I think that a lot of people believe that protesting hippies ended the Vietnam war, which is a delusion of grandeur, and so believe a similar shouting match will change all of our current problems. If one looks honestly at a graph of growth of the "military industrial complex", then it becomes clear that ending any particular war is meaningless without ending the war paradigm. Besides, shouting at politicians who were hand-picked and sponsored by the Financial Elite because they believe in corporatocracy and agree to uphold and further the agenda of corporatocracy is worse than worthless - it wastes our valuable mass energy and fosters discouragement and dejection.

    In a way, Gripreaper and I are saying the same thing: rule yourself. However, in addition to becoming as self-sustaining and community-sustaining as possible (the bottom-up approach), I feel we as a society must take the additional steps to rule ourselves from the top down too - and the only way to do that wisely and healthfully is to replace ALL of the minions of corporatocracy with ordinary citizens that are not part of the corporatocracy. Self-governance, especially top-down, will not just happen - TPTB have designed the system to maintain their power (which is the antithesis of self-governance by citizens.) It cannot be disassembled piecemeal nor can a majority of citizen-centric candidates win office in the current system.

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    The recognition that international bankers (tip-top of the pyramid) and large corporations (top of the pyramid) are the control structure is the premise upon which The Reset Button document is written.
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

    Dennis... so you wrote the Reset Button document?
    I'm really impressed.


    Did you get significant signatures? has it been submitted to anyone?

    I notice that it was written last spring or so? Does it need updating?

    Have you put it on the petitions list at us.gov? ...

    Hi Arrowwind,

    I compiled and paraphrased and edited and added - lots of people "wrote" it. When first presented, it was anonymous down to the last line, where I signed-on as the first supporter. A respected activist friend let me know that it would be more effective if the (main) author/compiler was introduced at the beginning - people can relate more to a person than a (nearly) anonymous manifesto and call for a movement.

    In 2011, it was simply presented, and there was no way to know how many had read it (other than website stats that showed it had been downloaded a few thousand times) or supported it. So, I was encouraged by an activist to add a signature portion to the website - "to allow people to become invested in the concepts" and show support. So, I scrapped the first website and started over in 2012, adding that functionality and broadening the site to expose more of the concepts in the document (especially for those too lazy to read the whole thing or even the first half of it. A site visitor can now get the gist of the goal, plan, and strategy without reading the document.)

    Signing The Reset Button document is publicly supporting this non-violent plan to self-governance - more like signing the Declaration of Independence than just signing a petition. The number of signatures is extremely low - a testament to my inability as an activist. I also miscalculated/misunderstood the current reality of the percentage of people that are free thinkers versus being followers. (I thought this could happen without being led by "name brand" activists. I now understand that many of the current well-known activists will have to be on-board for this to happen.

    I got some useful feedback (one of whom was rsviglio, here at Avalon), that The Reset Button document was written in such a way that someone might agree with a lot - but not all - and feel like they had to reject it. The Reset Button underwent a large revision, breaking the overall scope into what were called "Phases." The bottom line being that Phase I is the movement to self-governance, and Phase II contains specifics that activists are looking for in specific areas.

    It is still problematic that some see the word "phase" and leap to the (logical) conclusion that one will be accomplished and then the next. The problem is, that what is written as "Phase II" will never meet everyone's approval - the same everyone that knows that Phase I is right and we need self-governance to accomplish any real, positive changes. Another revision of the document is in the works, and that will eliminate the word "phase" - and show very clearly that what is now listed as "Phase II" is simply a list of topics (with essays) that candidates will be mandated to address (so we actually know where candidates stand on these issues.)

    It is not a petition. Petitions are designed to get someone else to do something. This is a declaration, an expository, a manifesto, a concrete goal, and lays out the specifics of the plan and the strategy to accomplish the plan and achieve the goal.

    Yes, in 2011, there was time to make it happen before the 2012 elections. Now that it is (in a few hours from when I write this) 2013, some name change will need to be implemented... again. (Not good for continuity.)

    Witchy1, thanks for signing! And yes, US citizens are considered "signers" and non-US citizens are considered as "supporters." I hope something like this is written in Canada, and in Australia, and in the UK - because the globalist Cabal is using these countries as primary organizational and staging areas. It will have to be specific to each country, to cleverly use the existing laws of the country to force a change to citizen-centric governance.

    Thanks!

    Dennis
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    Dennis, thank you for the replies...
    Time today is condensing pretty quickly and I will have to put off until tomorrow my thoughts.
    As usual, I will return... my husband says like a bad penny... I keep turning up....( perhaps when some wish I would go away).

    I do think that the reset button could move further with some further developed strategy.

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    I know most everyone wishes to find a solution within the framework of our current system. No one wants to loose their place in the pecking order - they just want those above them removed, as if they, themselves personally, had nothing to do with the problem and should therefore not have to suffer. We wish to inflict suffering, perhaps not only financially, upon those we feel abused their power - in a system that rewards such abuses with accolades and further lucrative insider deals.

    Devise whatever fix you want, it will not work. It cannot because the system and its framework stratifies its constituents into haves and have nots. The system rides upon the misfortunes of the least of its members. This cannot be changed directly because the system finds its balance by first defining its lowest tolerated living standard. This situation can only be mitigated by indirect funding so as not to disturb the delicate balance of a free market system - which is anything but free.

    Never before in human history has their been such a defining moment with such radical potential for all people, rich or poor. I direct you to Wade Frazier's site for the meat of the issue. If you want change for the better it is best to TRY SOMETHING NEW. Otherwise all you get is more of the same. It is not the people who are running the show that is the problem, per se, it is the show itself!

    There are hidden technologies that are clearly pointed to in our current understanding of scientific theory that you and I are not allowed to investigate, let alone create a working model. For national security reasons they are kept locked away from public scrutiny - or so the official excuse goes. In fact they are secreted away and their secrecy is actively and aggressively safegaurded because of the gargantuan transformation they would have
    on every facet of society.

    These technologies would for the first time in human history truly free mankind from its scarcity-based proclivities. Gone would be starvation, war, financial tyranny, oppression and the so-called "work ethic". And that would only be for starters. Quite literally, the stars would be our limits - and beyond. There is no telling what trajectory we would follow using current scarcity paradigm models as indicators of future trends. With abundance - anything is possible.

    So I urge all who consider change to understand the depth of the change possible here, today. Perhaps we can change the financial structure and hopefully continue on in this current paradigm without too much pain (do you really believe this?). Or we can implement true, fair and lasting change beneficial to all and erradicate the notion of capitalizing on anything ever again.

    Insist that zero-point energy technologies, energy from the vacuum, and related science such as scalar wave radiation be examined and thoroughly investigated - PUBLICLY. Understand that these technologies already exist and are already fully exploited in secret. Know that there is another form of science and philosophy, already fleshed out and viable, that changes everything - EVERYTHING!

    Most of all remember to dream of the potential of FE. It really makes science fiction look lame - and it is real - and could be our reality, in our lifetimes. Free energy from the vacuum frees mankind from most of the drudgery of daily life, freeing man to explore the limits of creativity, if there are any.

    Free energy, now!
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