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    From Bill Coopers book, "Behold a Pale Horse" written in 1991:

    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhS69C1tr0w

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    Just to set things straight, regarding Cooper's writing in gripreaper post # 341. The women school in Canada was not a women school, it was the Engineering faculty of the University of Montreal, called École Polytechnique, having moslty male students (95%).

    The women were set apart by the killer, the men sent away, and then he shot the women.

    There were no actors in this one, everybody here knows the name, place of living, friends of all the victims and of the killer. Lots of us have met family members and friends throughout the next 20 years. The killer's mom came on tv 2 years ago to say how sorry she was, and that she could not ever expect her son to commit such atrocities, she is a nurse. However, the son had a difficult childhood, had applied to the Engineering school and had been rejected.

    Another point, the increase of serotonine in the brain does not increases violence. It is the increase of dopamine that may induce psychotic episodes and therefore violence. I do not know if prozac works on serotonine only for sure (but I think it does) or if it works on both, serotonine and dopamine.

    Many of the sites Coopers mentioned at the bottom of the article are in Canada where the laws prohibit gun ownership except if you go through a lenghty process (of course, except for mafia and drug dealers). So whatever goes on in the US does not apply much here and cannot be use 1=1 for comparisons to USA. IMHO of course.
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    This is weirding me out... good addition Mozart. I found this also:




    so I went to the facebook Emily Parker Fund page https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParke...ref=ts&fref=ts

    and sure enough the page was created the day of the shooting??? With pictures posted the day of the shooting??? If you read from the bottom up the posts it is very strange indeed..

    However "Emilie" in the family photo being in the same dress with Obama????

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    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/sandy-hook-...180206033.html

    Sandy Hook students to go to a new school next week as their school is still a crime scene..........has this happened with any other school shooting??? could it be they
    don't want anyone to notice there is not a single bullet hole anywhere from this mass shooting ?? just a thought

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    This incident is so VERY weird!!! And we need to keep asking questions..a lot of questions...!!!!

    Much love!!!

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    was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM

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    Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...cting/7DC8Dq04

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    Quote Posted by Earth Angel (here)
    was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM

    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

    Well people are doing what people do best. Sleeping. Wake up Avalon! dont get caught with your pants down................
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    Regarding the "joined Facebook" date on the Emilie Parker Memorial FB page, something similar was noted with the Victoria Soto Memorial FB page...it said it was created sometime before December 14th. Eventually the page owner posted something saying that the page was something else before and was changed to the page it is now after the Sandy Hook event. So it must be the case that the Emilie Parker FB page was in fact created on December 14th, 2012 at 3:39 PM.
    [Source: https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParke...37842576368192 (the page you're taken to after clicking on the date of the "recent activity: joined facebook" headline on the upper left side of her Memorial FB home page)]
    The actual time is unknown to me as it does not have a timezone listed and someone in the comments section said it was actually 2:39. So I imagine that I am seeing the time as my local time, which is GMT minus 7 hours (US Mountain/Denver, CO)...or what I believe would be 5:39 PM in Connecticut.



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    was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM

    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...cting/7DC8Dq04
    I think a lot of US citizens are waking up to the fact that the "redress of grievances" our Founding Fathers spoke of never made it too far in modern times...that is to say, asking our government of today for transparency and accountability of any kind is a complete waste of time (perfect example, Area 51). Even worse, it also puts you on the radar...the list of names in that petition could easily turn into "the list" seeing as how most signing the petition are essentially resisting by refusing to swallow the BS of TPTB.

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    Long post incoming...

    It seems as if TPTB have the ability to completely white-wash anything. I think it's done with fear...if you discover with definitive evidence that something like Sandy Hook was staged, you've implied that you believe someone was able and willing to plan and execute that sort of hideous plot. So the next question is begging to be asked, "What's stopping them from killing me, one whistle-blower, or the few people I might tell and empower with the same evidence I have?" The answer is obvious to any human psyche, "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is stopping them from killing me if they did THAT!" Ultimately concerned with their own safety and the safety of their loved ones, it's not hard to see why the vast majority of potential whistle-blowers might never even consider sharing their evidence and info much less going public with it. But there will be a few self-sacrificial matyrs or die-hard nothing-to-lose types who still want to blow the whistle...and they probably get the "special treatment" which likely involves everything from advanced technology to remotely control people to directly intervention with drugs, more advanced technology, and mind control techniques.

    For the stories to sell to the masses, many dynamic mechanisms must be operated 24/7. On all levels of society, serious inquiries and doubts must be chastised, independent investigation must be mislead, stifled, or best yet prevented, and false enemies must be uncovered, rebuked, and killed. Of course, the icing on cake for the shadow-elite is silencing any whistle-blowers because they are the only true threat to the cover-up and could nullify all other cover-up efforts. These mechanisms and their influence do not have to be perfect because the system does the job well enough for the masses to reinforce it on almost every level of society...for example, the 9/11 truth movement has essentially failed to change anything of material because in practice the facts are nowhere near as important as the beliefs and belief system/world view held by the masses. For the 9/11 truth movement to succeed in any way, it'd have to change the belief system of millions of Americans. In a way, it has done that because it's startling inconsistencies, stark unanswered questions, and simply insane coincidences as pointed out by the movement have in fact opened the minds of at least thousands of Americans at least a little. Once that curiosity in someone takes root, if often spreads...but it often does not, given the reinforcement of the manufactured beliefs at every level. I'm sure 9/11 and it's truth movement have literally caused divorces...just like most modern conspiracies likely have (hypotheticals: husband thinks wife is literally insane for claiming to have been abducted OR wife thinks husband is insane for believing those foolish JFK conspiracies). But the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing.

    Because the system is not perfect (it cannot white-wash all the details), we are left with bits and pieces of conspiracy. Alas, we can only hope that they leave us a smoking gun that can be used to wake up more people as they realized their denial is a sub-human emotion that is holding back their intellect and humanity. I always like to remind my socialite-naysayers..."There's nothing easier than saying 'no'...try saying 'yes' more often and you'll be amazed at what you may discover." Needless to say, denial (the emotion more so than the tactic) seems to be the most powerful ally of the few that look to control the many. Who the hell wants to believe that someone would stage or hoax something like what supposedly happened? Coping with what supposedly happened is difficult enough...so adding on "tearing down my worldview" seems impossible for the masses. The curious ones wonder, "What kind of world view would one have to hold to believe that this sort of massacre was staged?" In US society, no one wants to be "that guy/gal"...the one that believes what no one else (in WalMart) believes. No one wants to be the guy who is nay-saying the "official story" of any tragedy. The only nay-saying that is positively reinforced on any level of society is that which reinforces the official narratives. As George Orwell wrote, "Truth is treason in the empire of lies". In America, it may as well be social treason...and for the masses, if the people on Facebook, at the office, in school, and in the neighborhood don't like you, you might as well be convicted of treason. I'm sure the shadow-elite slap their knees till their bloody at the delightful reality that the reinforcing mechanisms acted out by most of society's players and institutions are likely the most important component of any successful coverup.

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    This narrator spells it out. Ive seen more people shed more tears at the death of their cat or dog than these people did for their own kids. My stomach is turning. .. and we will lose our rights to bear arms over this bull****.
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    [because in practice the facts are nowhere near as important as the beliefs and belief system/world view held by the masses. For the 9/11 truth movement to succeed in any way, it'd have to change the belief system of millions of Americans. In a way, it has done that because it's startling inconsistencies, stark unanswered questions, and simply insane coincidences as pointed out by the movement have in fact opened the minds of at least thousands of Americans at least a little. Once that curiosity in someone takes root, if often spreads...but it often does not, given the reinforcement of the manufactured beliefs at every level. I'm sure 9/11 and it's truth movement have literally caused divorces...just like most modern conspiracies likely have (hypotheticals: husband thinks wife is literally insane for claiming to have been abducted OR wife thinks husband is insane for believing those foolish JFK conspiracies). But the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing.

    Needless to say, denial (the emotion more so than the tactic) seems to be the most powerful ally of the few that look to control the many. Who the hell wants to believe that someone would stage or hoax something like what supposedly happened? Coping with what supposedly happened is difficult enough...so adding on "tearing down my worldview" seems impossible for the masses. The curious ones wonder, "What kind of world view would one have to hold to believe that this sort of massacre was staged?" In US society, no one wants to be "that guy/gal"...the one that believes what no one else (in WalMart) believes. No one wants to be the guy who is nay-saying the "official story" of any tragedy. The only nay-saying that is positively reinforced on any level of society is that which reinforces the official narratives. As George Orwell wrote, "Truth is treason in the empire of lies". In America, it may as well be social treason...and for the masses, if the people on Facebook, at the office, in school, and in the neighborhood don't like you, you might as well be convicted of treason. I'm sure the shadow-elite slap their knees till their bloody at the delightful reality that the reinforcing mechanisms acted out by most of society's players and institutions are likely the most important component of any successful coverup.
    This is an extremely eloquent and poignant piece of writing, RampartRanger, and I know what you speak of first hand as I went about years ago trying to tell those around me the false flag that I knew 9/11 to be the conditions to advancement to war was certainly a crime founded upon another very dark crime. I was a traitor and could feel the shame of it projected upon me from those who sounded the battle cry of patriotism under their fear of terrorism.

    Tonight as I deal with my gut and the anxiety that Im feeling after coming to the realization that this Sandy Hook event was a manufactured false flag event that once again I am also taken with nebulous feelings of guilt, just like what I use to feel when I was a child, when my whole body would be filled with anxiety and guilt and ultimately shame for some crime that I didnt understand, that i might have committted against the forces of goodness (control) that were attempting to shape my life. Not being a good girl, and the ensuing shame was almost more than I could bea, so I would run and hide beneath the blankets, till eventually things would fade underneath the passage of time.l denial would finally cloak me and enfold me, giving the sense of at least a temporay stability and safety that I could cling to and from where I could focus upon redirecting my reality into a new level of delusion, a deep deep pretendment, allowing me once again to breath freely and know that, regardless of all else, mommy will always love me.

    Coming to terms with 9/11 was somehow easier than this Sandy Hook. I did that early on, actually in the first week or so and the ensuing revelations that came over the years of the events that actually did unfold were taken with a callousness that the wound that last week of September 2001 had put upon me.


    But this Sandy Hook has brought a new intensity of realization of what lies before us and the knot in my gut grows ever tighter tonight and I dont know if sleep will come. It is surely longed for. Its a lonely path to see what others will not and to understand the implications of the loss of freedom and to see those busy with life around me who do not know what fate that awaits their children and their grandchildren. For my own self I care not so much but I guess that is somewhat of a lie, for I know that I am my children's children, so their fate is mine and the damage done will not be undone for many many generations.

    So one comes to the point of determination. Will you cast all to the wind to save yourself, your family, and to hold to the reality that is not what is actually upon you, but is that which you dream and long for? Will you subject yourself to prison, to financial ruin, to separation and degradation for the work at hand? Will your efforts matter? Are you throwing your lifes energy to the impossible as well as the enivitable destruction of all that you have held presicous to just preserve that sweet taste of freedom in your soul? or will you allow the dark depths of denial to settle in and take root in your mind, to guide your tongue, to direct your steps, to smother your vision, to deaden your spirit, to sell your very soul, for to push down the pain is such a sweet sweet relief, so that you might learn to smile again?

    If you believe alone, and you know alone, it becomes a single vision against the world and you will be considered insane and you will find no repose in what the world has given you and your silence will grow when faced with those who have long bought the lie and who have never tasted freedom and you know that they are no longer fully human and you think you may be joining them.

    It is this collective state of mind since 9/11, enveloped in denial, and the twinges of anxiety that sometimes leak out though the cracks of our sanity, I cannot help but believe that the masses are ever so silently, pretending, ever so sweetly, walking so willingly into their slaverly and I doubt my ability or anyone's ability to change a thing.

    But I must try and to do so I must put aside these dark murmerings and really get good at pretending in the light instead of the dark. It is the fate of every great warrior who knows that his enemy is much much greater than she.

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    Someone sent that little girl out to have her picture taken with Obama so that people would know it was a lie. Or was that just a mistake.
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    Quote Posted by 161803398 (here)
    Someone sent that little girl out to have her picture taken with Obama so that people would know it was a lie. Or was that just a mistake.
    You know, shaking my head as I write this, I can't help but think that we are entering the time when the energy behind this WANTS us to know, WANTS to be recognized for it's "handiwork". And most of all, WANTS us to feel powerless, in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

    The ultimate power trip, like O'Brian says to Winston Smith in 1984:

    Quote "But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever."

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    You know, shaking my head as I write this, I can't help but think that we are entering the time when the energy behind this WANTS us to know, WANTS to be recognized for it's "handiwork". And most of all, WANTS us to feel powerless, in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

    The ultimate power trip, like O'Brian says to Winston Smith in 1984:

    Quote "But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever."
    Or they just don't care either way any more....they would love nothing more for the population to take a stand so they could mow us down like the useless eater stupid sheep that they think we are (which in fact they probably would get away with doing that too) at least for a while.

    Soon the people will only have a few single shot shotguns, bb guns, and rocks to fight back with......(not a chance in hell against a high tech army or police force)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fred, I seriously think it's too far gone now and will take a generation or quite a few more generations to fix the damage done. Too many people are just simply brain-dead and don't have a clue.

    The writing is on the wall, most just are too dumb/ignorant to read it....

    All the 2012 etc., hupla about the grand awakening is a smokescreen for the "Grand Hypnotic & Brainwashing Coma".....
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    A quite good video indeed.
    As days are passing by, I have a feel that the information is being treated more and more professionnaly by conscious/awaken/concerned citizens.That's the way to go.


    28.000 views so far.

    For the majority of people, the 911 truth is still, from a psychological point of view, a repressed feeling. We are really living in a psychotic society.

    But besides all the debunking and the media hype, still many people have come accross the information.

    So this new stage event is not falling on bare soil.

    With that I disagree with the above statement from RampantRanger that "the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing." (Post 350)


    The "Internet memory" and "global citizen intelligence" is looking at the whereabouts of the international mafia/global elite straight in the eyes. And as always, they are making many mistakes.

    I believe that as more irrefutable elements keep building up in this new weird staged event, once they are presented the right way from various high quality sources, there is a definite possibility that it can lead to some chain reaction.

    Eventhough one can sometimes doubt it given the way so many people are still hypnotized by the MSM, at the end of the day people are no idiots.

    There is a learning curve (despite the media constant straight jacket effect). And perhaps/hopefully, a 100th monkey effect.

    There is no reason for despair.
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    RealTime Jim Stone – Superintendent shutters “Narrows school” due to bat man reference by Jim Stone Freelance Journalist

    A school superintendent shut down his school because it was referenced along with Sandy Hook in the same bat man movie, and he believed that made it a strong possibility that another staged school shooting would happen there. The info on this is really sparse right now, but I have seen references that the actual school is on the map in the bat man movie.

    This really bodes well for us, I’d call it a victory won. There is something spurious about this that is unconfirmed – that there may have been a date set and the superintendent learned the date and shuttered the school. From the way things are going, this appears to be what actually happened.

    This is the e-mail that notified me of this:

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    Narrows High School matches Dark Knight Rises Gotham Map for Narrows. The location for Strike Zone 2 has been identified! It’s the Narrows High School in Virginia. The superintendent has closed the school district in an emergency announcement…
    After receiving this e-mail, I found this, and it's proof positive. It's the letter from the superintendent of the school, posted on the Narrows High School web site. If you click the link, this letter is in a PDF that is linked in big red letters "notice from superintendent".

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    Dear Parents/Guardians:On the evening of Dec. 27th, 2012, the Giles County Sheriff’s Department, the Town of Narrows police department, and the Giles County Schools, were notified by the Va. State police regarding information on a web-site. This web-site discussed the shootings that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut.

    Included in this discussion on the web-site was how “Sandy Hook” was referenced in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rising.” This reference was in a map that appeared in a scene in this movie. Another zone on this map appearing in the movie was “Narrows.”

    The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based “on a hunch” for “Narrows Schools.” From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared.

    Based on this information, we have been in communication with our local law enforcement officials (i.e. – the Sheriff’s Department and Town of Narrows police) to discuss this issue further. Additional precautions have been taken for the immediate future and additional safeguards will be installed at each of our facilities in the near future.

    Again, please realize that there were no specific threats made against any of our schools in Giles County. However, based on this information, we are working with our local law enforcement officials to continue to ensure the safety of our students and our staff members.

    If you have any questions, please contact your child(s) school or the Giles

    County School Board office.

    Sincerely,

    Dr. Terry E. Arbogast, II
    Superintendent

    PDF: http://sbo.gilesk12.org/notice/notice1113.pdf

    Website: http://nhs.gilesk12.org/
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