Alex Jones Debate with Piers Morgan 1/7/2012 on CNN

[modwiz]

I think we are going to see Alex emerge as something less than wholesome. His tepid treatment of the Sandy Hook incident was evidence for me. His recent wearing of a suit was another. The suit has been besmirched by the critters who wear them as a sign of respectability. When a man who has never worn one puts one on, it raises suspicion with me. His (convenient?) meltdown would also serve the suit wearers well. Actually, it has. Whose side in he on now?

Truth will out.

[East Sun]

Eric Jones was being himself. That's his way of not being trapped by a smoothie well prepared with "trick" questions. It would be hard to for anyone to answer a question like, "Who was responsible for 9/11?" You can't just name a person or a group of people when so many were involved.

One to have a debate would be to make it live but written questions and answers with a limit on the number of sentences used while taking turns. With AJ there would need to be rules.

I'm not familiar with Morgan/O'meara. Is O'meara his real/original name?

p.s. Stop all the violence on TV and Video games and movies that is part of the problem and used be the manipulators. What do people expect when children and adults are bombarded with violent crap daily.

It's hard to name a winner in a situation like that. Both won some and lost some.

[SilentFeathers]

This really says it all....

Piers Morgan's comments about the interview.

"He was the best advertisement for gun control you could wish for," Morgan told POLITICO.

"That kind of vitriol, hatred, and zealotry is really quite scary. I didn't feel threatened by him, but I'm concerned that someone like him has that level of influence," Morgan said.

"Sometimes it's better to let somebody have the rope they need to tie themselves in knots," Morgan told POLITICO

"He said last night that his show now airs in 140 networks, he has a huge online presence -- every day his message gets sent out to millions of Americans," Morgan said. "Through vitriol and rhetoric he is able to spur heavy gun sales and ammunition sales. He works off of fear."

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."

"After every shooting, America goes back to normal. The media come off the story, nothing gets done, the pressure on politicians dissipates," he said. "But you and I both know there's going to be another shooting in months, or even weeks. My intent is simply to keep this issue boiling along until the politicians act on it."

"I think America is getting diluted to the horror of these things: it's become too casual, too widespread, too indiscriminate, and incredibly dangerous," he said. "Something has to be done."

Source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...es-153617.html

ADDED:

I find this remark especially interesting as Piers speaks of Alex in future tense;

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."

[Ouroboros]

Piers Morgan was christened Piers Stefan O'meara and is of Irish heritage. Perhaps Avalonians with more time on their hands could look into his links with the Tavistock Intitute and maybe the Knights of Malta?

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

I find this remark especially interesting as Piers speaks of Alex in future tense;

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."

Interesting, I saw Mike Bloomberg do the same thing this morning on MSNBC talking about guns. I didn't believe it was just a slip at the time, and now wonder even more about it. It was something to the effect of: "Irrational people, we're not worried about them, we've already locked up the irrational people".

I turned to my wife and wondered: "They've already locked up the 'irrational' people? When did this happen, and who/what was considered irrational?" This is very possibly those little subtle hints we get of future plans, and very likely why mental health is talked about as equally as the guns.

Alex Jones is now the nation's poster boy for the definition of irrational. Therefore, anyone who knows the things he knows, and won't give their guns up to boot, will naturally be considered irrational. Another term for this condition would be mentally ill.

You with me?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

I find this remark especially interesting as Piers speaks of Alex in future tense;

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."

Interesting, I saw Mike Bloomberg do the same thing this morning on MSNBC talking about guns. I didn't believe it was just a slip at the time, and now wonder even more about. It was something to the effect of: "Irrational people, we're not not worried about them, we've already locked up the irrational people".

I turned to my wife and wondered: "They've already locked up the 'irrational' people? When did this happen, and who/what was considered irrational?" This is very possibly those little subtle hints we get of future plans, and very likely why mental health is talked about as equally as the guns.

Alex Jones is now the nation's poster boy for the definition of irrational. Therefore, anyone who knows the things he knows, and won't give their guns up to boot, will naturally be considered irrational. Another term for this condition would be mentally ill.

You with me?

I hear ya Fred, Alex participated in his own demise/downfall.....I'm listening to him now and he actually said earlier that he is ready for them to come after him......huh??????

This week Biden and his anti-gun goons are doing "many things".......it's on bigtime Fred!

Vice President Biden will meet this week with the National Rifle Association and a variety of other groups as his task force on guns intensifies its efforts.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...th-gun-groups-

Piers also said something else to Political I find a bit disturbing.....

"After every shooting, America goes back to normal. The media come off the story, nothing gets done, the pressure on politicians dissipates," he said. "But you and I both know there's going to be another shooting in months, or even weeks. My intent is simply to keep this issue boiling along until the politicians act on it."

[Youniverse]

I watched the well, er, um interview last night. If your agenda is to keep your guns(in America), Alex Jones didn't help you one bit. He was an embarrassment to himself and to America. Whatever conspiracies you believe, that is your prerogative. I say, produce the evidence or proof. At any rate, there were two people in the room, one was calm, controlled, and respectful. Theother was loud, obnoxious, disrespectful, and a complete jerk to be honest. I'll let you guys decide which one was which. Whatever your agenda, if you want to get your point across in the most effective way, you must maitain control of yourself(i.e. emotions, manners, respect, etc.) and present your argument logically and articulately. Just shouting at someone without letting them respond gets you nowhere, in fact it takes you backwards.

[Youniverse]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

I find this remark especially interesting as Piers speaks of Alex in future tense;

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."

Interesting, I saw Mike Bloomberg do the same thing this morning on MSNBC talking about guns. I didn't believe it was just a slip at the time, and now wonder even more about. It was something to the effect of: "Irrational people, we're not not worried about them, we've already locked up the irrational people".

I turned to my wife and wondered: "They've already locked up the 'irrational' people? When did this happen, and who/what was considered irrational?" This is very possibly those little subtle hints we get of future plans, and very likely why mental health is talked about as equally as the guns.

Alex Jones is now the nation's poster boy for the definition of irrational. Therefore, anyone who knows the things he knows, and won't give their guns up to boot, will naturally be considered irrational. Another term for this condition would be mentally ill.

You with me?

I hear ya Fred, Alex participated in his own demise/downfall.....I'm listening to him now and he actually said earlier that he is ready for them to come after him......huh??????

This week Biden and his anti-gun goons are doing "many things".......it's on bigtime Fred!

Vice President Biden will meet this week with the National Rifle Association and a variety of other groups as his task force on guns intensifies its efforts.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...th-gun-groups-

Piers also said something else to Political I find a bit disturbing.....

"After every shooting, America goes back to normal. The media come off the story, nothing gets done, the pressure on politicians dissipates," he said. "But you and I both know there's going to be another shooting in months, or even weeks. My intent is simply to keep this issue boiling along until the politicians act on it."

Ya all he meant by that was, given recent history in the U.S./patterns/proliferations of firearms/attitudes towards guns and violence in the U.S., you can rest assured there will be another shooting in the next few months. Any other interpretation is a huge stretch in my opinion.

[MistahMojoRisin]

WOW!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKo...layer_embedded
Personally I watched this debate and feel Alex Jones looked like a crazy man, he was disrespectful and avoident of fair give and take questions.
While I may agree with some of what Alex Jones says, his behavior (while passionate) pushes people away rather then halps people concider his beliefs. He actually was threatening Peirs with violence without him deserving it in the debate. Wow, i agree with Alex a lot but he totally turned me off in this. Not the kind of behavior that I want to support.

[SilentFeathers]

"They'll" go after Matt Drudge next too.....connecting him to "Alex Jones" (The nut case conspiracy theorists).

[MorningFox]

I'm of the opinion that he is a pawn. He has been put there to spread certain information and defend certain beliefs, which very well may have merit, but coming from his mouth sound like they don't. Im not sure where I stand on the gun debate but as someone who wholeheartedly believes 911 was an inside job, listening to that arsehole talk about it almost makes even myself second guess it, simply because he sounds like a raving loon. He acts like a complete moron and if he truly is an independently acting man then he is doing himself and his cause no favours at all by carrying himself in such a manner.

[Referee]

I am sorry many of you feel that Alex was just to crazy and irrational. I do not think this is the case at all in rural America Alex represents the feelings of real Americans. Americans are tired of the media treating us in this way. When is the last time you saw anyone stand up to the media with so much passion. Shock value yes. His behavior was not Politically Correct however, the time for Political Correctness may be ending!

[Ouroboros]

Look at the division it has caused just in this thread. Classic psyops from the Tavistock Institute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3I...e_gdata_player

Posted by Referee (here)
I am sorry many of you feel that Alex was just to crazy and irrational. I do not think this is the case at all in rural America Alex represents the feelings of real Americans. Americans are tired of the media treating us in this way. When is the last time you saw anyone stand up to the media with so much passion. Shock value yes. His behavior was not Politically Correct however, the time for Political Correctness may be ending!

[Referee]

This just about sums up my fellings on all of this!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k_TpTGai0UE

[161803398]

Too bad William Cooper was murdered.

[mahalall]

Good Grief, what a vulgar man that Mr Jones is!.

We English don't need guns, oh no, that is freightfully common.

Instead we out source such a violent problem.

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/deathscustodystudy.aspx

[Cidersomerset]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=12hxFKDPXnE

I don't know what to say about that ...LOL..I have watched alot of Alex's reports so am, aware he gets very
excited and passionate most evenings on his shows, and he made some very valid points about the 2nd
ammendment being more to protect against federal government than hunting etc...I am not offended
by his mimicking of Piers posh accent and the fact Alex did not want to be reinvaded by the redcoats.LOL

I think Bob Nevritt said the Queen still owns the commonwealth of Viginia the other night .LOL.
Unfortunately the interview turned into a farce and I don't think Alex will be back in a hurry !
Unless CNN's ratings went up !!...Piers Morgan should deffinately keep his nose out of a domestic issue imo !

[Hip Hipnotist]

Post withdrawn -- for now. ;-)

[sigma6]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jmdg9_IUl5k

Deserves to be posted as many times as possible
Brilliant, the only thing Alex got wrong was not playing to Pier's 'pretension' of acting reasonable. I love how he nailed him, laid out the statistics, and dragged in the drug issue as being a major factor. (and Piers tried to spin it all around after with the attorney - what a scummy move that was...)

You could see that Piers was shaken, so it wasn't a bad strategy, but when he realized that he had total control over Piers he could have pulled back a bit and exercised even more control.

Now Piers is playing the 'victim' card... "oh it just poor innocent little me..." "oh poor little reasonable me..."

and bringing in Dershowitz what a COP OUT... Piers is clearly a front for the zionist controlled agenda...

[Mu2143]

This is interesting ,this would have caused a shift in consciousness.