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    Default Space Stations, Moon, Mars and Blurried Answers

    Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases

    From: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01...en-moon-bases/

    Years of Doctored Data, Video and Photos Disclosed to Congress



    By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

    Discussions of alien moon bases and videos of structures on the dark side of the moon aren’t new. That congress is investigating, not only the bases themselves but three decades or more of continually doctored data from NASA and defense space projects is news.

    Last week, an unusual story was published by World News Tomorrow, alleging that crop circles were created by energy weapons in orbit, systems that were hacked.
    World News Tomorrow is not a simple internet news site. We know better. The video below is from Disclose TV and is claimed to be from a Chinese satellite orbiting the moon. Other sources claim that NASA is the source:

    An article at DarkGovernment.com this week discussed some issues the press had been banned from covering:
    According to many researchers of Lunar and Martian space agency images, photos revealing artifacts and structures are routinely modified by NASA higher-ups.
    In NASA Trick To Remove Alien Evidence From Moon, Mars Revealed insiders Ken Johnston and Donna Hare accuse the space agency of “ordering a cover-up of photographic evidence,” and that “NASA doctored, obfuscated, and obscured thousands of photos over the years.”

    Part of the process involves a neutral filter allowing moving objects to be removed. Some photographic experts, however, argue that the same software can be tweaked to filter out objects anomalous to a landscape.

    Future space images—or even some of the most damning from the past—could be subjected to the process. The result would be images bereft of any embarrassing or controversial objects that may be littering the Lunar or Martian landscapes.

    And then there’s the publication, The Canadian that reports: “Dr. Micheal Salla has indicated that there is a Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex or MIEC, and that Earth is being assimilated by an alien agenda which also operates on Earth’s Moon.”

    Hannard claims he received an image from “a source” who, in part, claimed: “China will be releasing [high resolution] images taken by the Chang’e-2 Moon orbiter, which clearly show buildings and structures on the Moon’s surface.

    “China will be releasing all the data and images from the Chang’e-2 in the coming weeks and months, lets hope this is the beginning of a new era.”
    Government obfuscation has reached epic proportions of late. NASA sources have indicated that, next month, Earth faces a “near miss” or possible catastrophic asteroid collision, they aren’t certain yet.

    Sources tell us that the issue is not that we have failed to adequately track or prepare for a 150 foot asteroid passing inside our geosynchronous satellites but that the cause of the threat itself is being withheld, a collision within the asteroid belt by what NASA describes as a “rogue planet.”

    With recent “slam dunk” proof of UFO videos and “slam dunk” of purposefully made phony UFO videos of extremely high quality and great expense, along with cracking the satellite bloc on Area 51 and other “black sites,” and finding large triangular craft there, the charade cannot continue much longer.

    Congress put out 6000 pages on torture recently, internal consumption only. The report totally debunks the bin Laden murder film, “Zero Dark 30,” which depicts the “rekilling” of the long dead bin Laden, a top level CIA asset in good standing at the time of his death.
    The report, if released, would lead to the indictment of thousands of Americans for war crime.

    If “torture” has generated 6000 pages, what might the 500 witnesses and years of secret hearings over, not just UFOs and alien bases but secret weapon technologies and “exo-politics,” how large a report are “we” sitting on?

    Would it fill a room, a library?

    Who does keeping so much secret serve?

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    Interesting, especially as Gordon Duff is considered a very credible source.

    I have a question though: What is the source of light for photos from the DARK side of the moon ? You can't photograph large objects at a distance with a flash !!

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Interesting, especially as Gordon Duff is considered a very credible source.

    I have a question though: What is the source of light for photos from the DARK side of the moon ? You can't photograph large objects at a distance with a flash !!
    Which side of the Moon do you think the Sun is lighting up during an "Earth New Moon?"

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Interesting, especially as Gordon Duff is considered a very credible source.
    Be careful here ... researchers that build a reputation to be 'credible' will often be infiltrated/corrupted soon as they reach that status.
    I mean, they don't have to go wrong deliberately but they could e.g. be 'fed' false info which they then repeat.

    I unfortunately cannot remember where I heard this but Susan Lindauer (columnist at Veterans Today)
    herself said that Gordon Duff was not always that accurate and sometimes has stories that are 'exaggerated' or even 'dis-info'.

    If I remember correctly, she even confronted him with this on which he allegedly responded: "Yeah, but who has the better story?".

    I must admit that I perceive his stories indeed as more and more spectacular. He gives hope but does it really come to fruition?

    Added: I think it was this show on Camelot with Kerry:
    http://projectcamelotportal.com/inte...susan-lindauer
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    Default Re: Space Stations, Moon, Mars and Blurried Answers

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    .Which side of the Moon do you think the Sun is lighting up during an "Earth New Moon?"
    DOH !!

    I accept the pr*ck of the week award !!

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    Default Re: Space Stations, Moon, Mars and Blurried Answers

    I watched and listened the video.

    To me, the combined audio (with Karl Wolfe from 2001 National Press Club Event) and video images (either Chinese or NASA according to sources) lends a lot of credibility to the whole idea.

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Interesting, especially as Gordon Duff is considered a very credible source.
    Be careful here ... researchers that build a reputation to be 'credible' will often be infiltrated/corrupted soon as they reach that status.
    I mean, they don't have to go wrong deliberately but they could e.g. be 'fed' false info which they then repeat.

    I unfortunately cannot remember where I heard this but Susan Lindauer (columnist at Veterans Today)
    herself said that Gordon Duff was not always that accurate and sometimes has stories that are 'exaggerated' or even 'dis-info'.

    If I remember correctly, she even confronted him with this on which he allegedly responded: "Yeah, but who has the better story?".

    I must admit that I perceive his stories indeed as more and more spectacular. He gives hope but does it really come to fruition?

    Added: I think it was this show on Camelot with Kerry:
    http://projectcamelotportal.com/inte...susan-lindauer
    I think he cultivates that perception of himself. It protects him. As long as people can hint that Gordon is not always right, and he seems to work for that perception, he will be considered less of a threat. Sun Tzu would approve. Deception/fog of war are the tactics of a strategic thinker. He is a wiley coyote.

    Your points about infiltration are very valid and are a real problem with success. Gordon is counting on intelligent people understanding this. Small audience, LOL.

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    Default Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases - by Gordon Duff VT

    Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases
    Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 | Posted by Gordon Duff

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01...en-moon-bases/

    (Additional images, videos and info at link)

    Years of Doctored Data, Video and Photos Disclosed to Congress

    Discussions of alien moon bases and videos of structures on the dark side of the moon aren’t new. That congress is investigating, not only the bases themselves but three decades or more of continually doctored data from NASA and defense space projects is news.

    Last week, an unusual story was published by World News Tomorrow, alleging that crop circles were created by energy weapons in orbit, systems that were hacked.

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    This tall tower is approx. 13 miles high, 4 miles in diameter at the base, the dome top has three miles in diameter.

    World News Tomorrow is not a simple internet news site. We know better. The video below is from Disclose TV and is claimed to be from a Chinese satellite orbiting the moon. Other sources claim that NASA is the source:

    YouTube - Veterans Today -


    An article at DarkGovernment.com this week discussed some issues the press had been banned from covering:

    According to many researchers of Lunar and Martian space agency images, photos revealing artifacts and structures are routinely modified by NASA higher-ups.

    In NASA Trick To Remove Alien Evidence From Moon, Mars Revealed insiders Ken Johnston and Donna Hare accuse the space agency of “ordering a cover-up of photographic evidence,” and that “NASA doctored, obfuscated, and obscured thousands of photos over the years.”

    Part of the process involves a neutral filter allowing moving objects to be removed. Some photographic experts, however, argue that the same software can be tweaked to filter out objects anomalous to a landscape.

    Future space images—or even some of the most damning from the past—could be subjected to the process. The result would be images bereft of any embarrassing or controversial objects that may be littering the Lunar or Martian landscapes.

    And then there’s the publication, The Canadian that reports: “Dr. Micheal Salla has indicated that there is a Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex or MIEC, and that Earth is being assimilated by an alien agenda which also operates on Earth’s Moon.”

    Hannard claims he received an image from “a source” who, in part, claimed: “China will be releasing [high resolution] images taken by the Chang’e-2 Moon orbiter, which clearly show buildings and structures on the Moon’s surface.

    “China will be releasing all the data and images from the Chang’e-2 in the coming weeks and months, lets hope this is the beginning of a new era.”


    Government obfuscation has reached epic proportions of late. NASA sources have indicated that, next month, Earth faces a “near miss” or possible catastrophic asteroid collision, they aren’t certain yet.

    Sources tell us that the issue is not that we have failed to adequately track or prepare for a 150 foot asteroid passing inside our geosynchronous satellites but that the cause of the threat itself is being withheld, a collision within the asteroid belt by what NASA describes as a “rogue planet.”

    With recent “slam dunk” proof of UFO videos and “slam dunk” of purposefully made phony UFO videos of extremely high quality and great expense, along with cracking the satellite bloc on Area 51 and other “black sites,” and finding large triangular craft there, the charade cannot continue much longer.

    Photoshop? With so many secrets, can we really accept that excuse anymore?

    Congress put out 6000 pages on torture recently, internal consumption only. The report totally debunks the bin Laden murder film, “Zero Dark 30,” which depicts the “rekilling” of the long dead bin Laden, a top level CIA asset in good standing at the time of his death.

    The report, if released, would lead to the indictment of thousands of Americans for war crime.

    If “torture” has generated 6000 pages, what might the 500 witnesses and years of secret hearings over, not just UFOs and alien bases but secret weapon technologies and “exo-politics,” how large a report are “we” sitting on?

    Would it fill a room, a library?

    Who does keeping so much secret serve?
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    Short URL: http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=235447
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    Default Re: Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases - by Gordon Duff VT

    This is a disclosure precursor, because they cannot hide it anymore.
    India, Russia, China they all know about it.
    They are more afraid of being embarrassed by China revealing their dirt. The better option is controlling the release of the dirt to make better face on the story.

    It is a good sign the race for disclosure had began.
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    Default Re: Space Stations, Moon, Mars and Blurried Answers

    VeteranToday fluffed the OP article with more references and pictures:


    This tall tower is approx. 13 miles high, 4 miles in diameter at the base, the dome top has three miles in diameter.



    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…



    Photoshop? With so many secrets, can we really accept that excuse anymore?



    More “Photoshop” or a mining operation?

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    From one of the comments on the OP article:

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    Thank you so much for posting this information. Believe it or not I am one of the top secret military witnesses that testified along side Dr Karl Wolfe and Donna Hare at the National Press Club back in 2001 where all this information was publicly disclosed, but was sanitized by the mainstream media which is controlled by these illegal rogue operations within our government, intelligence community and media to name a few. Here it is more than another decade gone by and because of the media controls the full implications of disclosure which the general populace has no idea and thinks from CNN, CBS etc we wanted to have a congressional hearing based on proving UFOs are real, which impacts no one these days trying to survive in the world. Whereas if disclosed would be a major game changer to release the hidden technologies for all humanity. But how do you come out and confess a lie that has gone on for over 60 years, and to what benefit would it do for the few who have their own agenda to do so. So the lies continue year after year.

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    Default Re: Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases - by Gordon Duff VT

    Gahhhhhhhh I searched... sorry Amzer... "sob" - Mods please merge or delete - sowwwwi!

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    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
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    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
    Well, I still would have to find a bug/critter with some sort of vertical tail... stylized or not.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
    Well, I still would have to find a bug/critter with some sort of vertical tail... stylized or not.
    I´ve heard somewhere that they are depictions of stylized catfish, like this:





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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [CENTER]
    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
    Well, I still would have to find a bug/critter with some sort of vertical tail... stylized or not.
    I´ve heard somewhere that they are depictions of stylized catfish, like this:


    Raf.
    Then, why no dorsal finn stylized?

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
    Well, I still would have to find a bug/critter with some sort of vertical tail... stylized or not.

    They are very likely zoomorphic gold ornaments of fish and in one exception, a moth, if you look at the frogs and other critters found in that collection (I got to see them in the Houston museum recently) it seems pretty clear really.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Then, why no dorsal finn stylized?
    Well, I have no idea...You´ll have to ask the artist! lol

    Anyway, i think they are closer to stylized animals than stylized airplanes.

    Ok, they don´t have a dorsal fin, but do airplanes have eyes or mouths?

    Art is art...Imagine if someone finds a Picasso or Dali painting 10.000 years from now...I hope they wont think they are precise depictions of us and our lives. lol

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    Model Airplanes, some over 5000 years old…
    I'm very certain these are just HIGHLY stylized bugs/critters. not saying something like suggested didn't exsist, but I do not think these depict them.
    Well, I still would have to find a bug/critter with some sort of vertical tail... stylized or not.
    They are very likely zoomorphic gold ornaments of fish and in one exception, a moth, if you look at the frogs and other critters found in that collection (I got to see them in the Houston museum recently) it seems pretty clear really.
    All right, why give frogs wings and a vertical tail then?

    How about craft flying-crew insignias depicting the crew's totem animal or symbol? After all, there are "winged" serpents, suns and all sorts of "charriots" and wheels.

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