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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    At 8.50 sec in Video No.3: There were 8 left handed presidents, they were James A. Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and Bill Clinton and Obama...so, where did he get...."there has never been a right handed president?"
    Later in this video he talks of a Minotity Report Cell phone with halographic touch keyboard - why doesn't he turn it on for us? Really, a simple way to prove himself.
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    There´s a huge, 26 pages long thread about him on this forum, you might want to check it out:

    https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Man...e-World?page=1

    One of the members posted this:

    Quote I’ll start my correlation of events when David was 25 years of age, as I feel this is critical to my story. David had a kidney disorder that required surgery however the doctor scheduled to operate on the day of surgery was unavailable, and at the last minute was replaced by a Korean doctor who had never operated on any human before, a complete novice. To cut a long story short, the Korean doctor read David’s chart incorrectly and surgically removed both kidney’s including the adrenal glands - David died on the operating table.
    Jesus!

    In the Morgue the nurse assisting the autopsy noticed David’s heart, which at this stage was lying on the outside of his body on his chest unsevered, incredulously the heart began to beat! He came back from the dead? Well, yes he did with an IQ of 200!

    The doctors put him back together again, including his perfectly healthy kidney, alive, however now he has 6 times the amount of endorphins you and I have, and so the saga continued.
    Child abuse

    Eight years later in 1982 David appeared in court self represented for custody of his children. He lost 67 times, exasperated he said to the Judge “If I say white, you say black. If I say black, you say white. I can’t ever win!” the Judge replied “That is correct David, you can’t win in this court” David retorted “So this is all about Language and how it is interpreted” With a wry smile the Judge replies “That is right David, has there ever been a war over a mathematical problem?”
    So, I wont say the guy is a charlatan, but if the above story actually came from his mouth, well, it´s hard to believe...

    Anyway, I´d like to see him talking fluently in at least 5 of the thousands of languages he claims to know. It would be a good start.

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    Is this guy human?
    In segment 6 at the 7:30 to 7:56 mark, talking about meeting with freemasons, he makes reference to something he signed in 1859.

    Hmmm...
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    "Bill spilled yoghurt on Monica Lewinsky 's dress"

    I thought it was Ice cream , Oh well onwards and upwards lol

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    Pause for thought. He is very charismatic... but here are several points to consider:

    1) Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_W...Selected_cases. Evidently his linguistic techniques do not always work in court.

    2) In Part 3 of the series, he mentions the Greenland UFOs, referring to them as factual.

    As best I know, the large "UFOs" in Greenland, visible on Google Earth, and quite well-known in the alternative community, are image artifacts. (Multiple image composition anomalies, which are not uncommon.)

    If this is true (and I think it is), this suggests that DWM is a storyteller.




    3) In the same part 3, I'm far from convinced that he or anyone else (200 IQ or not) could translate an 1800 word contract in English into "Quantum Chinese" in one hour using Google Translate with no prior knowledge of the language, which is based on entirely different conceptual precepts.

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    If this is true (and I think it is), this suggests that DWM is a storyteller.
    We may need to expand the context and stand further from the canvas of our perspective interpretations, and bring to bear everything we know, or think we know, to vet this.

    It's definitely challenging many linear conceptual integers at this point.
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    I have a rather high IQ and the language I recognize that he is mostly using in these video's is what he himself terms as "babble"....
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

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    An open e-mail from his ex-wife in 2001:

    From: Colleen Lloyd <justicewanted2001@yahoo.com>

    To: .....

    Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:56 PM

    I do this with a prayer that the Lord will do what has to be done and guide our actions, and with great reluctance, but also great resolve. I never thought I would be doing this, but I want to expose the truth about this fraud who teaches the "In the Truth" Law Procedures, David Wynn Miller's deception and I would like to have some press and radio on it, immediately and until he is called to repentance. Another Clinton we don't need. What we need is someone who will follow the Lord's program, not put his program above the Lord and deceive people. David Miller is so convinced that his language procedures are the only way, truth and light, that he told me, "Jesus spoke in fiction."


    Anyone you know who would do a show where David will have to answer for his lies, which I will go into, or where people can bring issues relating to his deceptions forward for him to have to explain, please contact me at once at 435-632-2321. He will be in Bellingham, Washington Thursday the 23rd, and have a seminar Saturday and Sunday at the Red Baron Suites. I am planning on being there passing out what I have discovered about him, unless he corrects his mistakes publically. I am doing my investigation there to get certain proof I need, and I already have a lot of evidence.


    If someone can arrange an interview with him for as soon as he gets off the plane, on the radio by phone, or otherwise, and find out when he will get to the airport and what flight he will be on, he can be investigated from the moment he arrives, which is necessary to get to the truth.


    The reason I am contacting you, is that David has consistently trashed and failed to acknowledge Right Way Law, and ALL programs except his, INCLUDING THE LORD'S. He says his procedures disqualify everything else because it is all in fiction. He has made out those like Larry Becroft, Jural Society, who say ANYTHING against him or bring up challenges, etc. to be doing what they are doing because David is taking away their students and income. And now that I see the reality of who he is, and his capacity to confuse and destroy willfully people's lives for his own interests, I think I and the others who have information and who have been hurt by his lies have a right to be heard and people have a right to know so that the wrong can stop. I never thought that I would be called as a witness to discredit him, but I am very sadly, yet very LOUDLY saying that I will do it now.


    I am Colleen-Lloyd-Miller, his wife. It is a "common-law" and unusual thing privately between us, which David insisted upon because at first he was so adamant against marriage and could not ever have anything in writing. Being that we both agree that the state is not a partner in the marriage and don't want a license, I said, I don't need it in writing, then, I want a marriage in our hearts and union of our lives to build it together, like Adam and Eve, no papers necessary then. He said, " I can work with that." And we were supposed to get a house...and he is the king of breaking promises.


    And he would say he didn't want anyone even knowing about it at first, because he concerned someone out to get him would hurt me. But you could not hide it, and I didn't want to because I am so honest and open, and over the years, it has become pretty known to many that we are a couple, and we are openly very romantic and he pays bills and our phone and internet accounts, etc, and we will be addressed as a wife and husband in those often and at hotels, etc. The reason this is significant is because, since I found out that he was lying about emails that showed he was cheating, he has actually tried to deny that there is any relationship between us at all, and attacked me...like Clinton. It is absolutely chilling to me. The pattern of deception is in his work, too.


    And there is more to it, and there were storms like men and women have and wrongs and forgiving and trying again to build a love that lasts. You know how it is. But he would not let me come and be in Milwaukee, because he said I would be unhappy and he was always gone on the seminars and never home, and he would see me more if I was out here, and flew me and had me come to the seminars whenever I could. RIGHT.


    I knew that it was not right, and it caused me doubts and I constantly wondered and asked if he was seeing other women, which he denies TO THIS DAY he ever did in 5 years, in spite of the proof I now have, and even his family, friends and closest students telling me...and I wondered why it was that way, and had all the instincts you have that he was lying.


    But you have to understand that David stands up there and professes to be all about honor and integrity and the truth, and can be very persuasive and manipulative to get what he wants, and you want to believe him and love and support him. You want to believe someone is about fighting to correct the corrupt courts, who is everyone's hope for...a Saviour?


    I just found out, to my great horror, that he had been lying and cheating on me with not just one, but probably many women. I questioned information I got before, but he always denied it. This time I saw emails that proved it, and asked why. I have saved my emails. When I emailed the woman and asked what she meant by her statements, David began his defamation campaign, and still accuses me of being crazy and making it all up.


    He tried to claim that Anthony Rees, the woman's ex-boyfriend, sent all of the emails to assassinate his character, because Anthony was involved in a conspiracy to destroy his program. Anthony has emailed me that he absolutely did not create the emails. Paul Newton's website has been created to show the falseness of the claims that people like Anthony investigated. Anthony suggests I go to the public forum rather than to court. I plan to file a complaint/claim against him and his seminar host, "Debbie Anderson" tomorrow for conspiracy and accessory in the crimes of fraud, malice, defamation, libel, reckless endangerment, criminal and willful negligence and adultery. The maliciousness is scary. I see in him the same pattern as we saw in Clinton, who David claims is "one of my students."


    And that is why I feel that it is relevant, because of the way people follow him like it is a cult and look to him as some kind of leader, or Messiah-like figure, to the point where they are so blind they are willing to lie and attack anyone who brings forth the truth, and sacrifice that person to the cult and justify anything he does, regardless of any sense of moral integrity. I think he has put his program before the Lord's plan, and it is almost like he is the Creator of this sick religion which he calls law. I am their latest prey.


    He is so convinced that his In the Truth language "procedures" are the be all and end all, that last year, when I made a very big step and told him how I wanted to share with him the importance of the Saviour, and my step I made to truly devote my life to the Lord and be willing to place Christ first, all he had to say about Jesus was, "Jesus spoke in fiction."


    The Lord was not following David Miller's law procedures. David's plan was apparently superior to the Lord's. This is the arrogance that Satan had, and his downfall, and it is David's downfall also. I was full of the love for the Saviour and realizing how much the Saviour had done for us, and full of faith. I told him that if you believe in Christ, all things are possible, that if the Lord could raise Lazarus from the dead, the Lord would work other miracles. I wanted to bring the Lord into our relationship because I knew that a man and woman must have the spirit of the Lord between them and that is the central pivot, and that it would make everything all right. I wanted a happy home and marriage and family, which had been a struggle to get him to realize the importance of and honor a commitment to. He would say one thing one day, and act like he never said it the next.


    What I wanted was to have a shared reverence for the Lord first, between us, because whenever two or more are you gathered in His name, he is there, and I could trust that and be happy. David only said that Jesus could have pulled off the Lazurus trick by faking the death. I have prayed so many times in this relationship to have the truth be made known about if David is a truthful, good man, because of all the attacks made on him and the things I see in my life with him.


    I have been David's biggest supporter, and written articles about him every week in the Las Vegas Tribune (one was published on the front page of the American Bulletin) and helped him with seminars and stood by him when students and others brought to me their concerns about his false claims, and when I saw him doing things that I questioned as wrong. I believed he was a good person in spite of the things I heard, and gave him always the benefit of the doubt.


    Now I know that he is a great deceiver, and the damage his deceit did to me and his hypocritical, arrogance and mocking, unrepentant attacks on me for seeking the truth are the reason why I see no other way at this point to combat his crimes but to expose him and call him to repentance. The only thing that he seems to understand is being called on the carpet before everyone publically.


    I have given them every chance, over and over, to admit they are lying in saying that they did not create the emails which show they are involved in the liaison which they denied to me. They will not. She is a Canadian, and Anthony also discovered this liaison by the emails, after smelling a rat when she would not let him (her fiance) attend the seminar. She is the leader of the citizensvoice.org website which is Citizens Voice for Health Rights, allegedly a non-profit organization. Apparently she has a marijuana addiction problem and cannot go a day without a joint. Which makes you wonder where she is going to get it illegally in this country. She also, he says, has no job, but lives off the money from the seminar/materials/tapes, and lives with her mother in Kelowna Canada. She apparently got into trouble with Revenue Canada and whored her way into David's very busy bed when at a Bellingham seminar last March, to get to his "procedures" to get her out of it, so her silence is to make money and his interest is in keeping people quiet to keep the money coming in, I believe.


    David told me to charge the students who's lawsuits he set me up to correct, $400 and to lie and tell them that I had spent 4 hours at $100/hour, when he would just fax me the paperwork from himself. I refused to do it, and thought, well he is just trying to help. He felt he was justified, since he had spent so much time developing it and they were getting so much. I felt it was fraud. Now I see the reality that he IS a liar.


    The defamation began when he stopped paying my phone and internet -- when I found out he was lying and told people the truth. He and she refused to give me a statement that they did not send the incriminating emails or have an affair, and hassled me when I called for the truth. You would think they would want to know who had done it, wouldn't you, if not them?


    I have not let up calling him (sometimes pretty pissed off) and demanding the truth and an end to the lie. I am a pit bull. His friends call me crazy. He says I am making it all up. His students have brought to me his false claims for years, and now I know.


    He is a liar. He says no one will follow a lie.


    I know the truth and it will set you free.


    : copyright/copyclaim: 02-20-2001:

    Colleen-Lloyd-Miller


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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    And another one, Bill:

    Here is a note from Dr. Ron Carlson about Miller:
    Subject: [:David-Wynn-Miller Seminar Feb.24 and 25 in Bellingham WA] "THE BIGGEST CON ON EARTH!"
    Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:39:20 +0400
    From: "Ron Carlson" <ddscarlson@worldnet.att.net
    To: ........
    Good day Mr. [....].

    It is important that you know what really happened when I used so-called technology by Miller.

    At my hearing for arraignment and plea February 17, 1998, I used the "flag" issue and the approach that I would not join with the court pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 12(b)(7). That day I left court having not joined with the court. However, the following day I was arrested by U. S. Marshals and incarcerated at Halawa State Prison with the presumed threat that I would be held as a threat to the state if I did not submit to the court's jurisdiction.

    Prior to my arrest on Friday the 19th of 1998, I filed a "Title 42 Action" that was advocated by Miller. He will say that this is passe' now, but the reason I mention it was the fact that in a subsequent hearing the U. S. Prosecutor noted it and said that it was incomprehensible. Nothing else transpired other than the fact that I let the "42" action time lapse. Reason? Number one I could foresee it being held against me as a identified "tax protestor" as well as an activist for pure water in Hawaii locally, and the fact that I had been involved in many other initiatives regarding the return to Constitutional Rule of Law by the government. [My group was known as the "Phoenix Project Committee of 50 States" and aligned with Joe Stumph out of Utah. Morris Dees, a Khazarian Zionist B'nai B'rith Mosad agent, SUBVERSIVE, of the "Souther Poverty Law Center" (I am sure dedicated to perpetuation of "poverty" using law as a method to insure its existence [READ R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER'S GRUNCH OF GIANTS, ST. MARTIN PRESS, 1983]) identified our "group" as a militia support group in a document regarding what he identified as "terrorist organizations."]. The second reason was that I had seen the irrationality of the idea that I would ever prevail in any of the controlled Zionist courts. It is impossible at this time but may be appropriate as we uncover the lies.

    David Miller has never won in court to my knowledge other than by his own say so. Heresay, I say! Where is the meat? Ask for proof positive regarding the success of his technology. Court cases... Testimony... Documentation, not just his words.

    His tech. did not in fact work for me. He has noted in his seminars that I utilized his work successfully, but this is not so. I was found guilty of five counts of tax evasion, 26 U.S.C., section 7201. I had not filed since 1983 and held the position that a citizen in the U.S. was not subject to income tax nor employment tax (they are different you know) since for the former there must be foreign earned income, and the latter an agreement with the employer pursuant to 26 U.S.C., 3402p(2). My defense was the "condition of the mind."

    A final note. A person I am with at the half-way-house (the place one is held after prison until reaching his or her's mandatory release date) filed a Writ of Habeas Corpus using Miller's most current work. Judge Gillmore said if she persisted in the issue, she would order a psychological assessment of Ms. Ottley and have her committed if necessary. Does not sound good to me. I encouraged her to withdraw the HC and file a more rational action. I don't know what she has done. Nor have I seen here around the half-way-house either. The court may have taken her already.

    David may be correct in many of his ideas, but half truth will only get one in trouble. I may be a testimony of what did not work, ask him for testimony for when it did work. Be persistent. Get the facts.

    Best of luck to you and your fellows.

    Dr. Ronald S. Carlson
    4211 Waialae Avenue
    Suite 400
    Honolulu, Hawaii 9681


    and another one, from the same guy:

    From: Ron Carlson <ddscarlson@worldnet.att.net
    To: .....
    Subject: Re: another reply from DWM
    Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:00 PM
    [addressee],

    Previously I wrote:

    Bruce...Ron did not win his case! I am Ron. Read his (David Miller's) statement: "Bruce, Ron won his case and was arrested for not filing tax returns for 5 years before he met me and had only hours of training before he went to court 3 years ago." With sentence construction like that I would have flunked first grade! (By the way, I did flunk first grade.)

    1) I was arrested the day after a hearing in federal court where I presented the "flag position" pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 12b(7) joinder. I did not join with the court by using a phrase, after having been asked by Magistrate Judge Yama****a, "are you Mr. Carlson," that went something like this, "I cannot understand a foreign language." I walked out of court that day thinking I had won. However, David nor I were aware that what I had done would simply lead to an arrest to gain jurisdiction. You know, jurisdiction by "law of the gun."

    2) I had not filed income tax forms since 1983. My position was, and still is, that a citizen of the United States of America, living and working within the several states of the Union of the states, having domestic earnings, is not the "subject" of the income tax set forth in the IRC (Internal Revenue Code). Additionally, "employment tax" as distinguished from "income tax" is a voluntary matter as may be corroborated by a read of 26 U.S.C., section 3402(p)(2). Only citizens of the United States of America with foreign earned income are subject to an income tax of 30%. And, this may be found by looking at 26 U.S.C., sections 1461, 1441, 1442 and 1443. The "withholding agent," sec. 1461, may be you or me if qualified by circumstances.

    3) I had read Miller's work and studied it for a year before I met Miller personally. He was here in Honolulu working with some of the Hawaiian Sovereignty People. He had also interacted with a gathering in Tehachape', California, being interviewed by one Rick Martin, who was at that time an investigative journalist with CONTACT NEWSPAPER. (Rick is no longer associated with contact. He too turned on the CONTACT NEWSPAPER, stole the reader list, bank accounts, equipment, corporate records, destroying other records.) I was not new to Miller's work. I had known that we were under emergency powers statutes by my own research. See the work of Dr. Gene Schroeder and others on the "War Powers Act." Or, look up "Banking Holiday" in Black's Law, 5th Ed., and see that pursuant to 12 U.S.C., Section 95(b) we are under martial law via the Banking Holiday Act. This may be verified by the "yellow fringe flag" flying in the courts and other public domains. David is not the first to claim this issue.

    4) We hosted a two day seminar in my office with Miller as speaker. We spent a good 20 hours of study in his understanding. The material sounded good, at least at first blush. Anything sounds good when one is under indictment and one is also prone to grasping at straws. I still hold that without verification of wins, that the technology is useful, people corroborating having won, there are no wins. Where is the meat? Have those who have won come forth as representatives of his technology. Will people sign testimonies that they won using Miller's approach? I have never talked to anyone who has won; but, I will gladly recant and apologize for this which I speak when shown otherwise.

    5) Lawyers do not help, neither will "pro se" litigation. Once indicted by the Federal, one is dead meat! Only a "payoff" at the highest lever, such as we have seen with Marc Rich, will get one off that hook. There is a 98% conviction rate with the Federals, and I met banking wizards, giants, at Federal Prison Camp Nellis who contested their indictments for as many as 10 years with top lawyers, but still lost. When you are targeted, that is that on that!

    Again, ask for those who have won to come forward. Insist on it!!! Using Miller's writings as they are will only insure commitment to a psycho ward. Judge Gillmore threatened to do that with Ms. Ottley regarding her filing of a "Win Miller Habeas Corpus" just two weeks ago here in Honolulu. As I reviewed his recent work, I was amazed at its incomprehensibility. Truth is simple and uncomplicated!

    My sense is that Miller is a counter-intelligence-agent both figuratively and literally, for his writings are unintelligible, and I suspect he has not true intelligence available to him. BEWARE!!!

    Dr. Ronald S. Carlson


    Check this link if you want to see more emails about David Wynn Miller; There are many others like the above ones:

    http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/Scams.htm

    Raf.
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Quote Posted by Colleen-Lloyd-Miller
    I was full of the love for the Saviour and realizing how much the Saviour had done for us, and full of faith. I told him that if you believe in Christ, all things are possible, that if the Lord could raise Lazarus from the dead, the Lord would work other miracles. I wanted to bring the Lord into our relationship because I knew that a man and woman must have the spirit of the Lord between them and that is the central pivot, and that it would make everything all right.

    : copyright/copyclaim: 02-20-2001:
    Colleen-Lloyd-Miller
    Invoking a savior and religion as a basis for her claims? I'm surprised you posted this Bill. What is the point of bringing this into this thread?
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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Quote Posted by Colleen-Lloyd-Miller
    I was full of the love for the Saviour and realizing how much the Saviour had done for us, and full of faith. I told him that if you believe in Christ, all things are possible, that if the Lord could raise Lazarus from the dead, the Lord would work other miracles. I wanted to bring the Lord into our relationship because I knew that a man and woman must have the spirit of the Lord between them and that is the central pivot, and that it would make everything all right.

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    Invoking a savior and religion as a basis for her claims? I'm surprised you posted this Bill. What is the point of bringing this into this thread?
    I was quoting her e-mail in full.

    There are some interesting parts in there, nothing to do with her religious beliefs... claiming [extracted quotes of Colleen-Lloyd-Miller's]:

    • he is the king of breaking promises
    • I found out that he was lying about emails that showed he was cheating, he has actually tried to deny that there is any relationship between us at all, and attacked me...like Clinton. It is absolutely chilling to me. The pattern of deception is in his work, too.
    • I constantly wondered and asked if he was seeing other women, which he denies TO THIS DAY he ever did in 5 years, in spite of the proof I now have, and even his family, friends and closest students telling me...and I wondered why it was that way, and had all the instincts you have that he was lying.
    • But you have to understand that David stands up there and professes to be all about honor and integrity and the truth, and can be very persuasive and manipulative to get what he wants, and you want to believe him and love and support him. You want to believe someone is about fighting to correct the corrupt courts, who is everyone's hope for...a Saviour?
    • I have been David's biggest supporter, and written articles about him every week in the Las Vegas Tribune (one was published on the front page of the American Bulletin) and helped him with seminars and stood by him when students and others brought to me their concerns about his false claims, and when I saw him doing things that I questioned as wrong. I believed he was a good person in spite of the things I heard, and gave him always the benefit of the doubt.
    • Now I know that he is a great deceiver, and the damage his deceit did to me and his hypocritical, arrogance and mocking, unrepentant attacks on me for seeking the truth are the reason why I see no other way at this point to combat his crimes but to expose him and call him to repentance. The only thing that he seems to understand is being called on the carpet before everyone publically.
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Suddenly... what's happening here?

    Sharp mind missing the forest for a tree?

    From his ex-wife letter, she demonstrates the guy to be a bona fide psychopath... that's the forest!

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Call me arrogant, but picking up on this guy's energy in the video tells me clear as day that he's out for the show, he's out to impress, but not to empower you. Quite the opposite. Well, there may be some genuine info in what he talks about, as it is often the case with disinfo. But when it comes to what he really does to propel the awakening genuinely, to me he seems as phony as it gets. Who really feels like, "this man really helped me to become a much more aware and responsible person," after having seen his presentation?

    I really think developing some spidey sense is a major key in claiming our self-responsibility. Real discernment is fact checking in collaboration with assessing situations on an intuitive level. The intuitive aspect has been neglected in humanity's more recent history, but it's a very real thing and it's important in our battle for freedom to claim the ownership of our psychic abilities and to use them. We're all able to do this, this can be trained like a muscle and cultivated like learning a new language. My spidey sense tells me he is totally out to grandstand, to waste my time, and to lure me into fantasy land. No thanks.

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Just coming back to this thread, and doubt I'll finish watching the other 22 segments.

    After my teeny-tiny eye-opener with the smalltown judge in South Carolina, think what it must feel like to go through what Wade Frazier witnessed with Dennis Lee in the courts...and penal system. Justice? Ha!

    The people that are giving witness that Miller's info does not really work in court really does not surprise me. Courts in the US are not very interested in "truth" or "justice" or "fairness" or "right and wrong."

    So, without even vetting the wildest claims, the relatively mundane claim that Miller has info to beat the US court system appears to be BS. I don't doubt that there is a lot of deliberate programming in the language of law and the court system, and maybe Miller has figured out some of the gambit - but again, being correct and prevailing in the US court system is not even related.

    Dennis
    p.s. Gripreaper can let us know if there are a few pearls of wisdom that can be snatched from this.

    Double p.s. : The ex-wife is a religious zealot and her word alone means nothing to me. However, first-hand experiential testimony from someone who was coached by or represented in court by Miller - and failed miserably - does have weight, and what I see seems credible. Even if Miller's logic has validity, if it does not work in court, he must not represent himself as being successful with it in court. I was told long ago (by an insurance adjuster/claims person) that many cases are settled because it is cheaper. Maybe Miller's advice has been used successfully - in a court where the prosecutor or judge didn't want their court tied up with a long, drawn-out case, and so put a few in Miller's win column.
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    In early part of segment 10, Miller re-emphasizes that all 27 American Presidents have been left-handed and goes on to use this "fact" to explain blah-blahblah.

    Miller also makes numerous over-the-top claims throughout first 10 segments about himself and "planet earth" that should be verifiable or not.

    Let me know how it turns out.

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    I really think developing some spidey sense is a major key in claiming our self-responsibility. Real discernment is fact checking in collaboration with assessing situations on an intuitive level.
    Bingo Christian!

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

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    The people that are giving witness that Miller's info does not really work in court really does not surprise me. Courts in the US are not very interested in "truth" or "justice" or "fairness" or "right and wrong."
    Heck, I doubt even the fair minded judges would take too kindly to me telling them my IQ was 100 points higher than theirs (which in my case would be telling them they were dumber than a box of rocks), and also telling them that I knew they were in the wrong and that they had no standing to say if I was in the wrong.

    The idea that some expert can give (or sell) you some magic babble that will bend authority figures to your will is yet another example of misplaced trust.

    In my world, the key to successfully dealing with others, in authority or not, is understanding what they are doing and saying. I actually expect to understand what the Doctors, Lawyers and (if there were any) Indian Chiefs in my life are saying. Then I personally choose for myself whether and how much to go along with their dictates, and accept (or rebel against, or work to mitigate) the consequences of my choices, most of which consequences are not too surprising.
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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    it always makes me smile that people who laugh at the "sheeple" and claim to be so awake and aware and better than the rest of the populace can actually watch s**t like this and believe that there's any vadility to anything this doofus is saying. I was in it for about a minute and a half before all my alarm bells telling me this guy's a fraud started to ring lol !! I mean C"MON!!! seriously!?!? SERIOUSLY ?!?!?! I says, ya'll crazy I says....

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    Just dropping in with my proverbial two cents. I listened to one segment earlier today. Every sense in my body and mind were jumping up screaming that this is the quantum flimflam man.

    It unnerved me in a way because I believe he is really on to something in the language area, and I would dearly have liked to be able to follow that thread. But when I hear him say the following, running all his words together... "Anger leads to thought and thought leads to wisdom". Well I don't know about anyone else but I have never made that direct correlation... its the sound of something reasonable rushing by that leaves a disturbance in the force.

    I think we all have our own unique sensibilities, it is good always to take a second, third and as many looks as necessary. It is well to remember that each of us has our vulnerabilities too. There are things that we are highly interested in and so any new information that appears to fill in the picture for us can grab our attention.

    The most effective deceptions after all contain the greatest amount of truth.

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    Default Re: The answer to everything, David Wynn Miller

    I''l try and find some non-youtube vids to check out, though it sounds lke he's not exactly the real McCoy.

    Sure, legalese is a warped and twisted abuse of English, but the way to beat the system is to play it at its' own game, using its' own language. Inventing a "mathematical" language which somehow overrides the legal jargon of each and every legal system on Earth is about as feasible as making a one-size-fits-all bra out of lead.

    I'd love to see what he calls "quantum Chinese" !!!

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