Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Chester]

Posted by Houman (here)
One Eyed Beings or Horus-Ra

These one eyed beings we understood later to be Horus-Ra.

They are about 3/4 meters tall, dark violet skin and a third eye in the middle of their forehead. We do not know if it is anatomical or technology or some kind of appendage.(EL–the third eye is a common symbol for “third eye vision”, when this chakra is fully opened in many esoteric/mystical texts)horus18frenk


In the male specie, they have under the chin, a beard-like looking appendage. They have protruding scapular bones, which are often mistaken for wings folded back. They have three fingers plus a thumb which look very bird, claw-like. They have great telekinetic powers when they move. But they were usually observed as through a screen and “not really there” but rather communicate from far away to other aliens via technological devices. Because they didn’t want to show up, they didn’t want to be seen and understood. They are the “Lords”…they are so ugly and so different from any mental structure we already had that, at the beginning, our abductees were unable to describe them properly.


horus12frenk

Horus-Ra



Insectoid Beings and the wrinkled skin, long necked slave beings.

These are similar to the preying mantises, have a green chitinous body and they walk on their hind legs. They very small beings, with a long neck that has muscles that flex and rotate the head (the equivalent of our sternocleidomastoids).Their mouth is small with lips different in thickness (the upper lip is noticeably smaller then the lower one) and their eyes are dark and moist. It is believed that they use our female abductees to reproduce themselves now, although it has been theorized that before that perhaps, they may have laid and hatched eggs to reproduce.mantisbeing-uf

They are five-fingered. (EL-In the Simon Parkes case, his mantis creature is green about 9 ft. tall, and wears a purple robe. In his testimonies he infers that these creatures are somewhat above the reptilian beings in hierarchy. (See: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/ali...ach-interview/)

A: It seems that there are 3 types of Mantis from the less social status and height to the higher social status and height: Brown, Green and White. The White ones may rule over the reptilians to but I would not say reptilians are their slaves.mantis-small





Q: 2. What about the Draco, where do they fit in?

In Maarit’s case, she perceived the Draco as being higher in command to the reptilians but the Horus-Ra incorporeal being used either the snake or chicken/bird body and appeared to have higher authority to all of these.

A: I’d say the Draco are the same ones Malanga calls Horus-Ra.

Q: 3. Can you tell me which alien beings are more physical and which ones are the incorporeal beings? What is the difference and what do they do, what do they want?

A: In addition to the physical aliens with bodies are the bodiless beings: The LUX in primis and the ones derived from the other “dark” Universe. These are the ones which use, in different manners, 3D bodies in order to operate in this universe. And I am referring especially to 2 types of beings which are:

...Ra, which inhabits the alien we call Horus
Both beings are “black shadows” and are often perceived as overshadowing from behind. The bi-dimensional black shadow beings interfere with the person’s mind component.

Of course, the only evidence I have is based on massive synchronicity, based on a stepping back and looking over all the notes I have taken along my life's journey and reviewing things I have told people over the years that, when added up, have me convinced that I had been (and may still be) targeted by demonic entities not of physical form since I was a child. But what is most interesting is that my evidence points specifically to a "horus-ra" entity.

As one of my points of evidence, and as I have written about in the past on this very thread, when I was 28 years old and living on the Big Island of Hawaii, I entered into one of my most interesting psychotic phases where I ended up in a jail in Hilo, Hawaii. While in the jail, I went even deeper into the psychosis. The jailers knew I had lost my mind and I guess thought it would be funny to toss a Bible into my cell. I was reading Revelations and then began to read the parts about the seals. "The voice" told me that I had to "break the seals" for "god." The voice told me these seals were my own eyes. And so I proceeded to try to gouge my eyes.

First I did the left eye and I heard a popping noise. It was painful and I began to scream. I then tried to go after the right eye. Strangely, even though I thought I was successful as well with the right eye, I got lucky and my vision returned in my right eye. No such luck though for the left.

I recall reading Ray's comment a few weeks back about how these things are simply figments of our minds and that we should not be picking on poor Horus of Egyptian mythology. Perhaps if he could understand that at age 28 I never even heard of "horus" but years later, when I found out that the legend of Horus included that he lost his left eye in battle with Set, things begin take form a solid picture that is a wee bit more real than simple delusions.

I just gave one small example of the dot connections I have made. I have several dozen others of equal improbability. When one sits down and does the math, the probability is beyond winning the Power Ball three times in a row.

There is no reason on earth someone's "psychology" has some sub conscious desire for this sort of experience to "happen" to them.

If at some level of my being where there is some "God, my creator" that also is the same "God, the creator of this possibility" that a Spirit/Soul being could end up entrapped in a dilemma such as this and that it is all part of this same "God's" ever loving divine plan, that "God" can, as far as I am concerned, go to hell.

Now I may end up being wrong about how I feel about all this, but I am not going to lie or pretend I feel any other way.

Thanks, again, for this thread... justoneman

[Chester]

What can we do? With understanding, and becoming whole again, we will naturally stop feeding the “shadow” as Jung would say. Stop feeding the aliens and buying into the illusions they feed us. This is how we get out of this mess.

125 pages now (20 posts per page) and it boils down to these three sentences.

Tricky - a.) stop "feeding the monster" or b.) change the food supply we provide such that "they" adjust to a new food or perish.

I see only one way Earth (and perhaps our entire 3D Universe) can be free of this and that is if we, humanity on earth, were allowed to engage in a massive education process where a simplified and consistent presentation of this information (from Dr. Malanga's research) were shared with our children from birth. Not presented as, "this is the way it is," but instead presented as, "based on our history, humanity has considered that this may be our shared condition... we all have to decide for ourselves if this is true, but many of us who have overcome our own personal challenges and obstacles in life have done so through testing this theory out and testing remedies based on the assumption this theory might be true."

"It is simple logic that if something works, even if we don't exactly know how or why at this point in our history, we should not discard it."

Its funny, but in the analogies within life, I found I can be a "superman" if I simply leave drugs and alcohol alone (these things are "kryptonite" for me). So in the metaphor, I can be a good dad, a good husband, a good friend and integrate well in society and all I have to do is stay off the coke, weed and booze.

OK, so... what if we replace "substances" with "fear emotions." That's all I did. It was that simple (meaning the solution is not complex - but at the same time I do not mean to imply this has been easy to do!).

Still, it really has been that simple for me - just avoid anything fearful while plunging head first into life... (meaning don't isolate as that is simply another manifestation of fear). Don't do stupid stuff either such as walking through the worst neighborhood in some major city at 3 AM while singing as loud as you can, "Oh when the Saints, go marching in..."

Why am I seeing how this literally can all be resolved at the Earth and immediate solar system level by a simple, mass... "getting us all up to speed" through being open and honest with our children about this "behind all surface truths" likely truth?

No guns, no anger, no mass arrests, no going after the practicing satanists, no tearing apart the world power structures... just a world wide agreement we are all going to share with our children from their youngest days the strange likelihood that "this" may actually be the deepest of truths.

That a 2D "shadow" universe has attached to our 3D universe and that our experience in 3D is compromised by how we have handled this attachment.

We see how we feed off the feedback loop and yet we agree our collective reality experience is overall nothing but crap.

So lets get up to speed and lets stop feeding the energies we provide to these "shadow" beings and instead offer them first, a transformed food supply and if that doesn't work... cut off the food supply altogether.

I hate the fact that I am now accepting a point of view of a dynamic that is an "us/them" with regards to 2D and 3D but for the purposes of seeking resolution at the universal level of a collective experience ("the universal soul level" perspective), I have no choice.

And at least the idea for resolution provides "them" - (this 2D shadow world) an opportunity for "Pinocchio" (them) to obtain "life" (the chance to perhaps receive a soul) first before we simply toss the wooden puppet in the fire.

This is how I always like to resolve matters - offer a set of choices and it is up to the other to decided which one to take.

What the shadow beings have to understand is that we have the numbers anyways - 3 versus 2... 3D versus 2D... Spirit / Soul / Mind vs Spirit / Mind.

Now it is easy to see how "divide and conquer" has been "its" tactic.

Strange how this all begins to become clear when one steps back and looks at the matter simply.

[Chester]

And adding another thought based on what I absorbed from the interview of Dr. Malanga along with Eve Lorgen's commentary... it struck me how we have all these wonderful sayings which are layers of metaphors... meaning the sayings do not only imply a meaning for the sheeple but a deeper and more metaphyisical meaning for the "clued in" crowd (who, like me, are probably more lost than the sheeple haha).

What if there are more levels to these metaphors than just two? What if, in fact, there might be levels upon levels upon levels and what we do is when we discover one of the deeper levels and think, "wow... I finally got it... aren't I hot stuff!" only to end up discovering another deeper level later on?

So there's this lovely one that goes, "As above, so below."

It just struck me that if we see 3D physicality as a middle layer and that we have this strange 2D "shadowland" and from that alone is an implication of 4D and up... and then we turn the saying around and we have, "As below, so above," then we might draw the following conclusions:

This 3D physical world is where the action is.

That the problems below are also reflected above.

And so why then the problems? Ray's divine plan? Ray may end up right, I will die a thousand soul deaths before I consider accepting this though.

If our assumption that the 2D "shadow" world is a wee bit of a problem (and of course the 1D possibility I don't even want to think about at this moment) and then we look "up" towards 4D and above and realize all the Spirit beings that may have souls and may not?? can an unensouled being exist in 4D and up?... that certainly these beings have mind - and these beings in 4D and up are "calling" us to "heaven" or calling us to where our souls have "evolved" (their point of view) such that we no longer choose to incarnate in physicality... that we "ascend" such that we no longer care much with regards to the Spirit beings that are currently experiencing a 3D horror show because we now "understand" "god's" lovely divine plan which includes for some being the star of a ritual sacrifice... I feel a strange sense that it might be possible our 3D physical world is, in fact... the greatest gift within creation imaginable.

But still, something ain't right in River City, folks.

I have some "gnostic" friends who are of the Cathar mentality in that they are hoping they never have to return to 3D again. I am not of this desire. Maybe I might one day regret not wanting to leave 3D physicality any time soon - even if this means being grabbed by the "aliens" and having my "past life" memories wiped out and then having to find Morpheus again and hope I wake up before the machines consume Zion.

It is easy to have this desire when I look in the eyes of my loved ones.

[Houman]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RH0bwEX_Zuw

Mark Phillips on Pine Gap and the event to happen in Columbia

[Chester]

Posted by Houman (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RH0bwEX_Zuw

Mark Phillips on Pine Gap and the event to happen in Columbia

This was over 12 years ago - seems these concerns are no longer of any concern - maybe it is just my own wishful thinking...

[Chester]

and more... Mark Phillips appears (and I am saying this only because I have dealt with this myself) - seems quite emotionally polarized here. Do not read my comment to suggest his information / views / what he reports as facts does not have validity. I have found that when I get emotionally invested in a fearful way into anything, it is almost as if what then comes forth is essentially the very thing of which I am fearful.

This is the greatest lesson I have been learning over the last several months. I take responsibility for my reality experience and that means I have no choice but to do the very best I can at controlling my own emotions.

So anyways, Cathy O'Brian is a true enigma for me. I was only able to read about 75% of her first book. That was back in 2003 ish but still, it was just too hard for me to read... to imagine that some of the content (much less all the content) was based in truth.

Still, I believe she is being honest about her experience.

Sometimes I wonder if there could have been "look alikes" or these "clone" things George Green swears exist... and that it was these clones that interacted with folks like Cathy O'Brian. Think about it - let's say "you" (some shadow directed cabal) wanted to control someone like GHWB. If you could create these clone things and have them become involved with folks like Cathy O'Brian and then Cathy gets past the mind funk (massive in her experience) and gets brave and goes public... from that then we have these lovely alternative media expositions.

Please, don't think I am trying to derive some type of theory to get anyone off the hook. I am only stating that based on all I have now read in all the books I have read and all the websites I have read... and add in that I have been a David Icke fan since 2002 and have watched so many of his videos and read all his books (up until this latest book which has too small a print for me to easily read!) - I am just saying...

I can believe anything.

And for this reason, I have moved into a type of discipline that unless I am able to witness something myself. Unless I have actual, direct experience with something, I am unable to fully believe anything.

I think this is a very healthy position to take.

As Ronnie Reagan said, "Trust but verify."

So in these cases, I am open minded to things, but I cannot commit to believing as if it is sure fact, the things I hear specifically about GHWB and his son, GWB.

Having said that, I am also a big fan of Ben Fulford. And it is clear he is convinced that the muscle arm of the Rockefeller faction that split from the European money men within the last hundred years is run by the Bush family. And that the Bush family is grounded in a Nazi philosophy. Yet, what is fascinating is that the Nazis were fascinated with Jesus Christ (as they pursued so many Christ artifacts such as the Spear of Destiny, etc.) - see how easy it is to get lost in all this? At least Ben finally addressed the practice of human (animal) sacrifice in his update a few weeks back... but it is clear that you cannot read Fulford's reports and ever take a specific point of view about what is actually going on behind the scenes on our lovely planet.

It sometimes seems to me that everything occurring on on Earth is meant for one purpose and one purpose only - and that is to distract us all. Each time I turn over some new rock and discover a deeper truth underneath, it changes my core point of view so significantly I really don't have one anymore.

I just know I am.

I just suspect things ain't right on planet Earth.

And I won't sleep until I get to the bottom of it.

Cheers, Chester

[Chester]

Cathy O'Brian and Stew Webb - those two folks I wish I could speak with. I am certain that if I could, I would be able to get to the actual truth of their experiences and then be able to conclude better as to what they speak and write about.

Of course, I will likely never get that chance and thus I will likely never be able to "know."

This is my dilemma.

I can break the possibility set down into three selections.

Selection A - That what is said by O'Brian and Webb has a large degree of truth to it which then raises the likelihood that much of the assertions of much of the folks on this forum aimed at the Bush family has a large degree of validity.

Selection B - That O'Brian and Webb are for whatever reasons delusional or mistaken.

And then this possibility - Selection C - that the experiences of O'Brian and Webb actually occurred but have been staged.

I truly have no clue which of these may be true but I feel it is a disservice to myself, my own family as well as to those who might be judged improperly to simply take other people's word for things. I have done that far too often and in almost all cases I have regretted doing so.

Anyways - I am likely going to be spending far less time now on forums... well, this forum - as it is the only forum I belong to other than silly "gaming" forums.

If I do spend any time here, it will be only on this thread and only on the few other threads that actually get into the depths of what we all may be dealing with here on earth at this time as opposed to all the surface distractions.

There's only a few threads that interest me here now - threads like this one and like those started by Vivek and Truman Cash for example.

A word to those who like to PM and then run... it is the running that exposes your own weakness and your own doubt as to your view / position. I suggest looking into your own mirror instead of thinking you have it all figured out and figured out for everyone else. Some of us that are here are here intentionally and some of us that are here have zero fear... understand?

[Chester]

Jiddu Krishnamurti

http://vimeo.com/55317367

“... and not accept it.”

“We demand world transformation, the transformation of society about us, but we are blind, unwilling to transform ourselves.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gfa6umSlR8A

[donk]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw

[Daughter of Time]

January 6, as any Christian and others would know, is the Epiphany. I had my own personal epiphany that day.

I went to a social gathering. The conversation was about the holidays and new year's resolutions and plans for 2013 when suddenly, it took a very unexpected turn.

One of the people at this gathering started talking about "Camp X" which was the most famous spy training camp in North America in WWII. The camp was known as "The Farm". This name was later adopted by the CIA for their own spy training camp. Between 1941 and 1944 over 2,000 spies graduated from this camp. This information, although highly verifiable, was not known to me.

Because this was the "finest" spy training camp of its time, its operations continued after the war had ended. It was known to have continued until 1969 at which time the buildings on this camp were demolished. The camp had remained untrespassable and very well guarded.

The locals, being mostly regular people, were unaware that this camp existed. They knew it was a government owned buildings but nothing more. When these locals asked about the satellites on the buildings, they were told the satellites were owned by the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) radio. Apparently, everyone believed what they were told.

This person who gave me this information has it on good authority that although the buildings were demolished in 1969, underground operations continued until 1994. What took place in that underground until 1994 is anyone's guess. But because it was all so secretive, it could not have been anything they wanted the public to know.

Why was this an epiphany to me? Because if the underground operations continued from 1969 to 1994, well, from the ages of 14 to my early 20s, I lived just a few miles away from the ex "Camp X". And with my history of bizarre experiences, could I have been a "guest" in that underground facility? And what happened there? I certainly have no memories of anything. But a number of things come to mind.

A number of readers of this thread who seem to know a great deal about ET and government abductions have sent me PMs asking me a number of questions, such as:

- "were you a victim of MK Ultra?" to which I always replied "no".

- "were you a MILAB abductee?" to which I always replied "I think I'm just a garden variety type of abductee".

- "could one of your parents have been a spy?" most definitely not!

- "did you live near a facility where secret government activities took place?" to which I always replied "no"

It seems that I might have been wrong on at least one count.

It is also curious that not far from this ex "Camp X" resides one of the country's largest Satanic cults. I'd heard about this since I was a teen-ager and as far as I know, this Satanic cult is still very much in operation.

By the time I was 20, I had made many friends in that area. Most of them are dead. Most of them died very young, in their early 20s: drug overdoses, suicides, mysterious accidents, stabbings, etc., and some of them who made it to their late 20s and even early 30s, died of heart attacks and fast acting cancers. Coincidence?

I know none of this proves anything. But it makes me wonder about a lot of things.

I moved away from that area when I was in my early 20s. I didn't like living there, and it was not the place to follow the profession I had in mind. But it seemed that almost every time I went back, I would hear of someone else I'd known who had died.

It's been 10 days since this information came to me and I've been feeling extremely foggy since then. It's taken me this long to finally be able to write about it. It feels like another piece of the puzzle in my rather dark journey. I don't know what it all means other than it's triggering a great deal of unpleasantness. Although I do not have any recollections of abductions in my teens, I did often wake up with large, unexplained bruises on my body then too. This concerned my mother a great deal, thinking maybe I had some rare type of hemophilia which had gone undiagnosed. Doctors didn't have a clue as to why these bruises would appear on my body overnight.

In my conversations about abductions with Simon Parkes, he told me that although I was abducted by ETs, there were very evil human scientists involved in the abductions and experiments. Simon says they like to abduct and study gifted humans, meaning, humans with psychic abilities, which I've exhibited since I was a very young child. I didn't know what to make of this, but it seems to make more sense to me now than it did when he first told me. I thought maybe it related to the abduction I recall about ova extraction, ear implantation and possible DNA changes. But maybe it relates to more than that. I don't know.

It is winter in Canada and not conducive to long outings. But come the spring, i intend to visit the area of the ex "Camp X" and although I know there will be no clues left of anything and no access to any underground (not that I would have the courage to enter any underground) I'm hoping it might jog my memory. Ultimately, I don't know if I was ever a guest in that place but many signs seem to point in that direction.

I have not been able to effectively deal with my day to day life in the past 10 days. I know that no matter what happened, every attempt must be made to remain active and grounded. Actually, it is imperative to remain active and regain groundedness. How else can one ever find any hope of learning the answers?

[donk]

How else can one ever find any hope of learning the answers?

You're only hope is to keep asking questions. And listening to others. Not much else you can do. Love to you DoT, thanks for sharing.

[Houman]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
How else can one ever find any hope of learning the answers?

Thanks for your post DoT. According to Mark Phillips (in https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7cVMZFxa4, 4 parts) writing down your memories/flashes/experiences is one way to recover them, it is allows the analytical/logical mind to process them without the emotional charge (i.e. potential trauma involved which might block these memories).

Houman

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for posting the link to the Mark Phillips/Cathy O'Brien video, Houman. I don't know if they're doing anything nowadays, but I see that they were talking publicly in 2006 as evidenced by this video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WaX1hqGgK4U

I met Mark and Cathy in the early 90s in Spokane, Washington. A friend of mine, Eva Vale, had brought them to town to speak about their experiences. Eva was a Mormon and she had given me a copy of an affidavit by a Mormon bishop and other material regarding satanic, ritual child abuse at the highest levels of the Mormon church. I had just finished my first book on abductions and she introduced me to Mark and Cathy as an abductee. Mark was aware of the ET abduction phenomenon and in a private meeting he said that he had seen an alien implant a couple of weeks prior to this meeting. He said there was writing on the implant and it was not an Earth language. Mark said he knew that I had been traumatized by the way I walked.

Regarding Cathy seeing George Bush transform into a reptilian--I asked Cathy if she thought that was mind control, or perhaps hologram technology or if he was a real shape-shifting reptilian. She said she didn't know.

Eva Vale also brought Phil Schneider and Al Bielek to the Spokane/Coeur d'alene area so I later asked Al Bielek about Cathy's experience--that is, if the US government had hologram technology sophisticated enough to make a human appear to transform into a reptilian. He said that, yes, they did.

Truman

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
How else can one ever find any hope of learning the answers?

Thanks for your post DoT. According to Mark Phillips (in https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7cVMZFxa4, 4 parts) writing down your memories/flashes/experiences is one way to recover them, it is allows the analytical/logical mind to process them without the emotional charge (i.e. potential trauma involved which might block these memories).

Houman

[angel-sylph]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
How else can one ever find any hope of learning the answers?

Thanks for your post DoT. According to Mark Phillips (in https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7cVMZFxa4, 4 parts) writing down your memories/flashes/experiences is one way to recover them, it is allows the analytical/logical mind to process them without the emotional charge (i.e. potential trauma involved which might block these memories).

Houman

Thanks Houman

That makes a lot of sense. I was programmed not to write and when I did try to write down any memories I would leave out the details and only write what I was feeling. My mind would also go blank if I tried to write - but now that I understand it more I will have to try writing again.

[Houman]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
I don't know if they're doing anything nowadays...

Thanks for your post Truman. They are still active, this is an interview Mark gave recently (posted on Jan 15, 2013) on Mind control & Sandy Hook

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VASWNwOKqrQ

Houman

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Posted by angel-sylph (here)
Thanks Houman

That makes a lot of sense. I was programmed not to write and when I did try to write down any memories I would leave out the details and only write what I was feeling. My mind would also go blank if I tried to write - but now that I understand it more I will have to try writing again.

Thanks angel-sylph. Feel free to write your experiences here should you wish doing so.
Houman

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yNk8Px6zFKw

[Chester]

Hi Vivek - I am wondering why you posted your last post (the Sandy Hook related video) here in the Horus-Ra thread? I know you see a link but I was hoping you would explain what that is.

And now to go into the "matrix" as I see it -

I have considered carefully this issue we call "the archons" from this perspective. Some here consider the deeper (and perhaps deepest) problem facing humanity on earth at this time to be the influence of these "archons." So assuming there is this layer between the our experience and what we believe exists on the other side of this border of our experience - what lies on the other side being a "heavenly" experience... whatever that might be we have concluded that a portion of humanity on earth has consciously dedicated themselves to these purported archons.

So we have the possibility of something we call in this thread "the archons" and we have those amongst humanity that have consciously aligned with "the archons." For the purposes of my exploration here I am assuming that both of these two elements are real and true.

We have "us" which I will define for the moment as neither an archon nor a human being who has consciously aligned with the archons.

Within the us are those who are aware of the above stated possible reality and we have the vast majority of humanity that has no conscious clue about it. A large portion of humanity (mostly the western world fits in this group) has a sense of this consciously but they attempt to define their understanding of all this through the lens of a religion which also provides for them a "god" as well as a "war in heaven and earth" and good guys and bad guys, etc.

Now again I will point out that there is a very small group of "us" who discuss this matter like we do on this thread and I assume some of us may discuss this matter with others and that some of us may not even know about this thread or the Avalon forum but discuss this matter with others.

This group reminds me of the few main characters in the Matrix movie who attempted to find Neo and had pinned their hopes (through their beliefs) that Neo was "the one" who essentially would save them all from the machines (the archons in this analogy). This three movie series reminds me again of the western religion motif of a one day "savior" or "messiah" etc that would be the "son of god" and come to save the day, etc.

This again smacks of the same programming that has been working for this type of "control" through distraction and the implantation of false hope, etc which allows the average human being to either buy into waiting for some type of "divine" intervention which would come into the picture and resolve the massive problems we have on Earth at this time or throw up their hands that they, individually, can't do anything about the current condition of humanity on earth.

So we have these two primary groups I will label as "us" and "them"

"Them" is

the archons

those humans who consciously align with these archons

and "us"

those humans who believe in this reality possibility and consciously choose to reject the archon influences for themselves and in many cases become militant against the archons and against the humans who have consciously aligned with the archons

and then we have the rest of us... which I see as two sub groups of the "us." The first group is those who are direct victims of "them" and then the vast majority of the rest of "us" who are indirectly effected by "them" and who are in most cases unaware of the possibility of this reality picture and amongst most of this portion of "us" are actually resistant to the possibility of the archon / human dynamic.

So we have two major groups - "us" and "them"

the "them" is made up of the archons and any human being (or other type of sentient being for that matter) that is consciously archontically aligned. So we need to consider that within the "them" group the possibility that there are non physical 3D sentient beings who have also aligned with the archons.

within the "us" we have the awakened to all this possibility... I would consider myself to be in this group. We have the victims of direct archontically influenced attack from either the archons themselves, other sentient beings who are consciously archontically aligned and fellow human beings who are consciously archontically aligned. And we have the rest of us. Within this last group of "us" are those who might be open minded about the possibility of these archons and those who consciously and actively resist the idea of this possibility.

So again, within the us are four sub groups -

us, the awakened / open minded

us, the direct victims

us, the non directly effected of us who might be open minded to this possibility

us, the ones who have not consciously experienced direct attack from any level of the "them" but who consciously resist the idea that there might be this them.

So we have, overall two groups - one group I am calling "them" based on their conscious alignment with what most everyone calls "evil" and the other group I am calling "us" who oppose any form of evil at their conscious level.

Now let's look closer at the "us"

The awakened may include some of the direct victims but not necessarily. Any direct victim who has somehow escaped the influence of the archons to a great extent (I am unsure if anyone amongst us now has fully escaped but anything is possible I assume) and I call myself one of these "escapees" from the direct evil influence of the archontic energies.

I also can see how I might have been a direct victim but because I have escaped and because they cannot harm me directly anymore (because I do not allow the possibility of "death" nor "torture" to influence me anymore), I actually see myself as an example of what a human being on Earth today can be like where the archontic influences don't have much impact on my life anymore. One reason I make this conclusion is that not one of "them" appears to bother me from any level of their structure anymore.

So, here I am... an awakened, relatively unarchontically influenced former victim of direct archontic attack living happily within this "matrix" and dead set on assisting anyone that wants to extricate themselves like I have done and still remain physically within the matrix at least for the rest of their current lifetime.

I have achieved peace of mind that "it is what it is" and have made a conscious decision that I would do every single thing I could to assist anyone who suspects that they are in one of the various sub groups of "us" as well as am open to assisting any sentient being (human or not) that is in the sub group underneath the "them" such that they may join "us."

I am even open to the idea that the archons themselves could change though I suspect I am in a minority of one in this regard... but that's just me - I am open to any possibility and I am also open to any all encompassing, final resolution to the overall archontic problem.

I do not accept nor ever will accept that what we have been experiencing now on earth in the material realm physical reality based on my own current life experience as well as what I have been able to "remember" from past experiences is part of some "creator god's" divine, wisdomatic plan. If that be the case, that "god" can go F itself.

Anyways - it is clear to me the entire human experience could instantly change into an experience where love rules the day as opposed to these archons. It is all up to "us" and perhaps to some extent it is up to some of "them."

Thanks Houman for this thread and thanks Truman Cash for your "matrix" thread.

Chester

[Houman]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=55fCRqAlQoc

[TrumanCash]

Oh, yes, there's another "god" and his flying disk (including landing gear) establishing yet another religion through his prophet ("chosen one"), Zoroaster. I am very familiar with this pattern LOL!

[Houman]

Yes in all likelihood but I wonder if Ahura Mazda is the person you describe in your books. When you study the development of civilizations in relation to theirs gods and beliefs you don't see an uniform pattern. For instance the Roman gods lead to "might is right" whereas the Persians followed "good thoughts, good words, good deeds".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_WqUbpRChU

Another curious point is the occurrence and intervention of UFOs in decisive moments in history...

One of them is narrated here


"During the siege of Tyre in the year 332 BC, strange flying objects were observed. Johann Gustav Droysen in his History of Alexander the Great [Geschichte Alexanders des Grossen (1833)] does not cite it intentionally, believing it to be a fantasy of the Macedonian soldiers.
The fortress would not yield, its walls were fifty feet high and constructed so solidly that no siege-engine was able to damage it. The Tyrians disposed of the greatest technicians and builders of war-machines of the time and they intercepted in the air the incendiary arrows and projectiles hurled by the catapults on the city.
One day suddenly there appeared over the Macedonian camp these "flying shields", as they had been called, which flew in triangular formation led by an exceedingly large one, the others were smaller by almost a half. In all there were five. The unknown chronicler narrates that they circled slowly over Tyre while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them in astonishment. Suddenly from the largest "shield" came a lightning-flash that struck the walls, these crumbled, other flashes followed and walls and towers dissolved, as if they had been built of mud, leaving the way open for the besiegers who poured like an avalanche through the breeches. The "flying shields" hovered over the city until it was completely stormed then they very swiftly disappeared aloft, soon melting into the blue sky."


There are many other accounts of these interventions...

Houman

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
Oh, yes, there's another "god" and his flying disk (including landing gear) establishing yet another religion through his prophet ("chosen one"), Zoroaster. I am very familiar with this pattern LOL!