Albuquerque Shooting 1-20-2013

[Rocky_Shorz]

why turn on his own family?

were they trying to get him help?

at this point I'm wondering if everyone that watches Doomsday Preppers are being tracked electronically...

[Arrowwind]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
They're gonna brainwash people in to believing it was the assualt rifle used regardless, this in the first sentence in a New York Times article that just came out.

A gun-toting teen allegedly used multiple weapons, including a military-type assault rifle, to kill a man, woman and three children inside a New Mexico home, authorities said Sunday.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1243564

Oh in a New Mexico home! For some reason I got Arizona in my head.
New Mexico is where 30 sheriffs out of 33 counties stood up this week and said they would not enforce repressive gun laws.... quite a statement eh? and not matched anywhere else yet.
so maybe thats why this happened in New Mexico. they are reacting fast to the resistence and trying to motivate the locals against them!

Im not saying that this is a false flag event but tptb will use it to their ends, and where better right now than in New Mexico

[bogeyman]

How many people are killed using other weapons? It's the intent of people and the mind set. Its a sickness that some seem to have that causes people to commit murder, and how you solve this sickness.....well that's the $64000 question isn't it?

Guns are just a tool like everything else. But they are designed to kill, or do they have another function?

[Arrowwind]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Guns are just a tool like everything else. But they are designed to kill, or do they have another function?

you can inverse this and say they are designed to protect so that one might live.

[Operator]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Guns are just a tool like everything else. But they are designed to kill, or do they have another function?

The AR-15 also known as M16 is used daily by a lot of American guys overseas killing many civilians including
women and children (Although they are working very hard to get this done by drones nowadays).

Do we simply forget those victims? I think it should be very clear that assault (as in assault rifle) means that
the bearer is the aggressor ... If assault rifles are banned then ban them also overseas and leave those
people alone ... It will save lives, money, trauma and you don't train your own population how to use those
guns.

[shadowstalker]

Pretty soon owning a gun while raising children will be considered an act of abuse (endangerment of a minor)
Or they will accuse parents of training a potential killer...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Guns are just a tool like everything else. But they are designed to kill, or do they have another function?

you can inverse this and say they are designed to protect so that one might live.

I have a Scoped 30-6 accurate at half a mile, I only need one shot...

not a clip with 15+ bullets for protection...

do you think an assault rifle helps in a police standoff?

they have sniper rifles, it just guarantees death, of the gun owner...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
Pretty soon owning a gun while raising children will be considered an act of abuse (endangerment of a minor)
Or they will accuse parents of training a potential killer...

not guns, but possibly Dooms Day Preppers...

kids that grow up with guns respect them...

I was shooting at 9

the problem is the mental health system.

if a kid tells his friends he's thinking about getting a gun and going on a rampage, they are afraid of trying to get them help.

help means tossing them in Jail or a Juvi hall, locking the cage and never letting them escape

what is needed is healing centers.

there is 1/100th as many beds per populace now available for mental patients compared to the 1950's

mental health is too expensive, they'd rather let them sleep under bridges and talk to dumpsters without help...

Welcome to the modern world...

[Operator]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I have a Scoped 30-6 accurate at half a mile, I only need one shot...

If you want accuracy you might want to look into this one



Barrett M82 ... that one actually kills over one mile

But it really has no application for us. You need an awful lot of training and it is only useful if you need
to take out one hostage-taker at the time. In case there are more the shots of multiple snipers has to
come synchronized as one shot. The first hit will alarm the rest.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
not a clip with 15+ bullets for protection...
do you think an assault rifle helps in a police standoff?

I guess that avoiding a standoff is the best option but when short range/close combat is unavoidable
Then this one would be my number one choice



Heckler & Koch MP5

But I no longer believe in weapons myself. I prefer to vanish undetected.
I can understand the usefulness of the 2nd amendment in the USA. But it should not have come this far.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
Pretty soon owning a gun while raising children will be considered an act of abuse (endangerment of a minor)
Or they will accuse parents of training a potential killer...

They are calling the 3 children that died being "abused to death" rather than murdered right now.....Hmmm????

[ghostrider]

isn't every gun an assault weapon ???

[Operator]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
isn't every gun an assault weapon ???

No, certain weapons do have specific characteristics that will support an assault.
Things like e.g. flashbangs are used for disorientation of the raided party. They are not meant as
a weapon to kill or injure anyone (Especially useful for getting hostages out, can't kill everyone).
Other type of weapons are for personal defense (like small caliber handguns).

The Barrett M82 is e.g. far too heavy to be used in an assault. It's used for support only.
It is specifically for long range sniper fire.

And this classic one



M2 .50 cal. Machine Gun

Not to be used as an assault weapon (not really portable). Rather to be used to defend fixed positions. It can even
stop armored vehicles. But not accurate at all. Difficult to handle, you aim by following the tracer bullets.

[Arrowwind]

Two most evil schmucks on the face of the earth



3,000 of them to "protect" American Citizens





Confiscate their guns.... know your history!
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.







I can think of about 6 million people who probably wish they had semi-automatic weapons to protect themselves.
Most of them had Jewish names. All were lead like sheep to their slaughter with barely raising an arm in the
defense of their families, their neighbors, themselves. If you all dont believe that we are in a time of jeopardy then there no hope for you. If you all want to lay down and surrender your constitution then you will walk into a society, create a society in which you will become a full bonefide slave.. In fact. You already a slave. The only reason I can think of to have a gun besides hunting is to stop a home invader and to stop a facist pig from coming to take me or my neighbor away.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Operator (here)
I can understand the usefulness of the 2nd amendment in the USA. But it should not have come this far...

next they are going to tell me I can't use hand grenades for fishing...

or stinger missiles for duck hunting, what's this country coming to?


I better order a few from eBay before it's too late while they still have plenty in stock.

FIM-92 Guided Stinger Missile Case Rocket Launcher LAW AT4 M72 M136 $350

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
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I guess you still haven't figured it out...

everything you say needs to get fixed, has been created by the Federal Reserve to make you forget what really needs to change.

as long as big banks run the world none of it matters...

they write the rules and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it...

stop the hate, you've been spun...

[AwakeInADream]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

(not real BTW)

[Operator]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
Pretty soon owning a gun while raising children will be considered an act of abuse (endangerment of a minor)
Or they will accuse parents of training a potential killer...

Well, especially in countries with military draft they literally force you to gain knowledge on weaponry.
Maybe we should stop that first. I always wondered why they 'trusted' just everyone from the
population with a weapon. I have met some who were literally dangerous and could not be trusted.
Either they were shooting life rounds during their watch or others vanished with their full automatic
guns during maneuvers.

And what to think about gaining knowledge about weapon room situations. If one of your mates
is on watch and you make a deal you know exactly how to get to the weapons. And that's not
farfetched because I know for sure that it happened once. Tens or hundreds of UZI's were stolen.

Or even when countries have a professional army people are lured in by free or low cost scholarships
and/or 'work' if unemployment rates are high.

And while I am at it ... I don't understand the habit in the USA of thanking veterans for their 'service'.
What service? With the US invading country after country, killing foreign people with drones, exporting
lots of weaponry I hardly call that 'service'. Are people in the USA feeling that threatened that they
think they are defended by this 'service'? I think it's working in the wrong way. The USA is being set up
to become target of terrorists because of their interference in other countries. Sorry to say, but that's
just a logical conclusion.

I think that we are responsible. We are the ones getting into this 'service' and we are manning the killing
machines and execute their orders. If we want to stop all wars then stop providing this 'service' ...
Service to whom? To them !!

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
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I guess you still haven't figured it out...

everything you say needs to get fixed, has been created by the Federal Reserve to make you forget what really needs to change.

as long as big banks run the world none of it matters...

they write the rules and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it...

stop the hate, you've been spun...

What people haven't figured out is that without our constitution you will be in such a prison state that you wont even be able to talk about the banks.

The sole purpose that the 2nd amendment was put into the constitution was to maintain the freedom and ability to protect oneself, and to protect individual states from tyranny from the government and to take them down if you can...not a god dam thing to do with duck hunting, and to insinuate that it does reflects pure ignorance of our constitution and the intent of the framers of the bill of rights, and such dialogue it to confound and confuse even further the already ignorant.

The 1st amendment was put there to give us the ability to freely talk to ourselves, our neighbors and to our governmental representatives, not a dam thing to do with pornorgraphy. And when they take that down websites like this will become a distant memeory.

The 10th amendment was put there to maintain states rights so that states would not become prisoners of the federal government.


They are after it all. Your individual rights and states rights.


But go ahead. Dont fight for it.
Just ignore it.
Pretend that it has absolutley nothing to do with your freedom.
Just go back to sleep.
One's life will be over before one know it anyway
and nothing will have been done or contributed to help maintain freedom.

One can pick and choose if you want to what your cause will be but without it all none of it will stand.

[Sidney]

I don't believe anything I see in mainstream news anymore, there are always lies weaved into the fabric of the story. If anyone really did die here, my heart goes out to the family.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by starchild111 (here)
I don't believe anything I see in mainstream news anymore

Using "The Law of Opposites" while watching the MSM makes it much more informative.....