What Now?

[Kimberley]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Hi 13th Warrior, I appreciate your passion, truly, but history shows us that war brings nothing but more war. It has failed every time it's tried, and we need look no further than all the major world powers who have fought to be free, especially the U.S. currently, to see where it ultimately leads. Now I'm not trying to tell you what to do brother, do as thou wilt, but if America is allowed to disintegrate into another Civil/Revolutionary War, everybody loses, except the elite of the elites.

And round we go again. I'm tired of going round and round again, there's a better way...

Yes and that is what I so love about Mr Keshe's claims and his proposed peace treaty and conference that can be seen here (if you have not already seen it):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post620278


Much love and much peace to us all!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Population of Equador: 14 Million
Population of Texas: 25 Million

Area of Equador: 256 thousand square km
Area of Texas: 696 thousand square km

We wouldn't all fit, Bill

(And I've heard rumors that there are other parts of the USA, outside of Texas.)

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Population of Equador: 14 Million
Population of Texas: 25 Million

Area of Equador: 256 thousand square km
Area of Texas: 696 thousand square km

We wouldn't all fit, Bill

(And I've heard rumors that there are other parts of the USA, outside of Texas.)

Well well lookie here, another smart ass...

[modwiz]

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Hi 13th Warrior, I appreciate your passion, truly, but history shows us that war brings nothing but more war. It has failed every time it's tried, and we need look no further than all the major world powers who have fought to be free, especially the U.S. currently, to see where it ultimately leads. Now I'm not trying to tell you what to do brother, do as thou wilt, but if America is allowed to disintegrate into another Civil/Revolutionary War, everybody loses, except the elite of the elites.

And round we go again. I'm tired of going round and round again, there's a better way...

Yes and that is what I so love about Mr Keshe's claims and his proposed peace treaty and conference that can be seen here (if you have not already seen it):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post620278


Much love and much peace to us all!!

Any signatories yet?

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Kristin (here)

I agree Dennis, that is precisely why we all need to be balanced and compassionate during these times and not reactionary.
From the Heart,
Kristin

The thing is too many people see being non reactionary the same as taking no action at all.

[kreagle]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

I 'propose a move also',.....just in a 'different direction!'





I fully agree with the 'problem' and the 'need for a move',.....I just want a more 'permanent and final fix for the problem'.


Peace and Love to all,........kreagle

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by kreagle (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

I 'propose a move also',.....just in a 'different direction!'





I fully agree with the 'problem' and the 'need for a move',.....I just want a more 'permanent and final fix for the problem'.

Oh for Chrissake...

Sorry kreagle, just couldn't help meself.(LOL)

[Kristin]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by Kristin (here)

I agree Dennis, that is precisely why we all need to be balanced and compassionate during these times and not reactionary.
From the Heart,
Kristin

The thing is too many people see being non reactionary the same as taking no action at all.

Indeed, thinking before one acts is my point entirely!
From the Heart,
Kristin

[Tesseract]

Many of the discontents bemoaning the current state of the US issue glib conservative laments such as that the nation is sliding into a 'black hole of socialism'. It really would be quite the irony if some of those folks fled to Ecuador. I'd have a good old chuckle about that.

[Arrowwind]

Its not socialism that Im conerned about, its facism. We have been socialistic for a long time now, although quite ill managed. If we put more into that and less into nation making, war and moving our industry out of the nation to foreign shores and keeping corporations out of politics we'd be just fine.

[Fred Steeves]

Whatever the political "ism", this is the state in which we find ourselves perpetually entrapped.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dpWEv9Q0XQ4

Had Enough???

[norman]

Meet the new bosses..................

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Rollo (here)
What Now? Probably this is a great time, opportunity to create and channel all the emotions, energies trough creative act. Start writing, paint a picture, learn how to play on instrument, build a house, dance, sing, upload a video on your brand new YT channel or tailor a hat that Bill will be dying for... Anything that is coming from your heart and soul that you are passionate about. Creativity is one of the greatest gifts that we have and can share.

“I am not afraid…I was born to do this.” - Joan of Arc

With love for love,
Rollo

Yes, and to add ... never underestimate the power of practicing creation ... start small if you need to to ... but create -- A Creator who does not create, ends up creating the sorrow caused by the perceived inability to express itself. You cannot stop creating if you wanted to. Direct that carefully ... Life is a canvass ...

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Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Its not socialism that Im conerned about, its facism. We have been socialistic for a long time now, although quite ill managed. If we put more into that and less into nation making, war and moving our industry out of the nation to foreign shores and keeping corporations out of politics we'd be just fine.

I want to add that there is only a "black hole of socialism" within an economy based on scarcity. Get rid of the economy based on scarcity, then re-evaluate socialism on its merits within that environment.

[gripreaper]

I was born and raised in America, the fourth child of immigrants who came to America from Germany in 1949, after the atrocious events in Europe. I was taught that America was the land of the free and the home of the brave. It was understood that freedom and liberty, self determination, and individual rights were part of this nation, and that this nation was like no other. We would pledge allegiance to the flag first thing every morning at school. We celebrate our freedom every year on the fourth of July, claiming that we are emancipated from the Crown and won this freedom, and have defended it many times in the last few hundred years, against enemies around the world who would attempt to encroach on individual freedom. Many paid with their lives holding these beliefs. I too am mourning the loss of what I once believed to be true about America.

Many here recognize that this freedom and liberty has been an illusion, and that the globalists have circumvented and taken over this country, through wars, banking, corporatocracy, and the media. The owners and controllers have technology, assets and tools which are far superior to that which is available in the public domain.

We are a nation of approximately 300 million people, a small population relative to countries such as India or China, yet our economy is larger than the next six economies combined. We generate about 14 trillion a year in gross domestic product, even though so much of our industries have been outsourced to other countries. Our currency is the world reserve currency, and more dollars are held outside this country than are held within, and these dollars are in every pocket around the globe. Many of the other countries hold treasury notes, which give them access to the GDP we produce each year, and this has reduced the amounts available for capital allocation, other than debt service to the globalists.

There are many reasons for this, too numerous to highlight in this post, but suffice it to say, every foreign and domestic government program is non value added to the economy, and is a huge drain. This is by design, as I believe, so was the incredible expansion in the last several decades.

Freedom and liberty was allowed to flourish in America since WW2, after project paperclip brought the best and the brightest from all over the world to America, to back engineer the stellar technology and to usher in the digital age, and I think it was due to some huge revelation that the elite had which accelerated their timeline, and made it necessary to very quickly generate defenses and technologies to cover all of their variable events and agendas going forward. We all know about the secret black ops economy and projects, the stellar technology, underground bases and such, so we see the fruits of this expansion.

What I now believe is happening, is that these globalist elite have basically finished their project, have the technology they want, and now need to take their corporation called America and trim the fat, reduce it to where it is just their global mercenary bully force military, and sustain the corporate industries which support their advanced technologies. How many people this requires and what industries are to remain housed within the borders of the US are up for speculation, as well as how this is to be achieved, and how fast. We are nothing more than a used office chair in the elites corporate office, to be discarded when used and worn out.

Many are speculating that the elite plan for America includes some catastrophic failure, or an apocalyptic type collapse and reset. So far, it looks like they are slowly bleeding the wealth and resources for capital allocation, and are destroying the middle class and placing all of us into a state of poverty and subsistence level living. This has gone really well for them in the last decade, since 9-11, and permeates every sector of society.

If a catastrophic event is planned, it would be , either an expected natural phenomenon, such as an EMP from the sun, the Madrid fault splitting the country in two, a coastal tectonic shift which wipes out most of the western and eastern seaboard, or a pole shift, or some such event. Engineered events may include a war, engineered economic collapse and civil disobedience, breakdown of the centralized oil and electric grids, or a combination of the above, or a myriad of other options and false flags.

The solution for some, is to leave this country and take up residence elsewhere, where the effects would not be felt so severely, although I do believe that an American collapse would affect the entire world, and that the reduction of the populace to serfdom is a global agenda, and not just American. America is the stalwart which the rest of the world loves and hates, as a symbol for all that is wrong with the world, but also all that is right.

America, whether the freedom and liberty was engineered or not, has had a taste of what it is like to live the illusion of freedom, and as a band of rogue individualistic immigrants, did a pretty damn good job living that illusion, and developed an economy which still rivals that of any other country on the planet. We should be commended for this, while we mourn the loss of this dream and recognize the truth of what really happened, and where we stand now.

We stand at a precipice, one which mankind has not stood on for thousands of years. I do believe we have been here before and have the DNA race memories in our core to remind us of what happens when oligarchy reaches the point where there is a small one percent of psychopathic controllers at the top, and 99% serfdom for the rest of us. This is what we face, complete totalitarian fascism.

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
For most, "what now" will be the ultimate moment of despair, and they will fearfully do as they are told. For the few, "what now" will be the entire reason they are here in this place and in this time, because it will represent a moment of unlimited potential.

And that potential starts at home. Get out of debt and decentralize your basic needs as much as possible. Go out into your local communities and gather with like minded individuals and create co-operatives, and localize basic needs as much as possible, preferably away from the major population centers. Take up a spiritual practice, by decalcifying the pineal gland through mineral cell salts, detox, clean energized and alkalized water, raw fruits and vegetables, and aerobic exercise. This is the first step in a commitment to “what now?”

The unlimited potential lies in America, having had a taste of freedom. It has yet to be tested and seen, if we are willing to unite and rally around the things which bring us together, and not fall for the divisive tactics of the controllers. I know that most of the 300 million people here are still asleep, but this sleeping giant has never been poked in the ribs before and been awakened, like we are about to experience in the next few decades, or sooner.

The global military force known as the US military is comprised of many individuals, and it is my hope and dream that they stand with the people, and that most of the respective states will also not comply with the draconian dictates being handed down. I know the awakening needs to be soon, before we are totally reduced to serfdom and we no longer have the wherewithal or the power to take on such a formidable global force.

We have the potential, as Fred has so eloquently stated, and it is up to us, the remnants who see the handwriting on the wall. If the current baby boom generation passes, who has a look backward and forward from freedom to fascism, and this slow bleed of serfdom continues into the next generation and we all die off, I don’t think it will be possible to turn the tide of potentiality towards an outcome which is favorable to all mankind.

Certain anomalies could happen, such as free energy, which could totally shift the chess board and level the playing field a bit. All of us having guns and ready to defend our 2nd amendment right are not formidable against the tools the elite have. We almost need a miracle. That miracle lies in the hearts of man, his empathy against those who have no such notions. It’s not a war, but it is an understanding of who these entities are, and accepting the TRUTH that they are not human, that they came here from somewhere else, manipulated our very DNA and set up a slave system on this planet, and they need to be removed.

That is an intention, one which can be manifest as we husband our energy and learn how to righteously use energy, and how quantum energetics has power. This power is not linear, but exponential, and it would only take a remnant to generate enough inertia to shift the tide. I think the tide is shifting, even in the view of how successful the elite have been, just in the last couple of months. Yes, they have their new data center and they are running beta tests on how to manipulate and steer the collective, and they are having great success. What successes are occurring in the hearts of man, who have not arisen yet?

I’m hopeful, and try not to look too hard at what is manifesting in the physical collective, but rather what is happening energetically in the quantum. That is where the change starts, in the hearts and minds of the people. The elite understand this all too well, and have been very successful at manipulating this energy on the quantum level, through their false flags, their rituals, and their human sacrifices. We need to have similar tools which are empathic, and strong enough to counter their initiatives.

I’d love to go to Ecuador, and I’d also love it if Bill would just come out and say it: what he sees for America and what information gave him the inertia to move to Ecuador, and why he has such a strong sense of urgency in everything he posts. If he has shared all he dare or will, I understand.

I also understand that I am standing with my fellow Americans, and I hope they will stand with me. This is not "nationalism" or "patriotism" so much as it is standing with the empaths of mankind, those with a heart and a soul, who know how to use them.

[mosquito]

What now ?

2012 is gone, with all its' empty promises and false hopes. Be thankful, because now we can focus on the moment.

Now is NOW. Now is the time to realize there are NO saviours on their way; we are not our past; we are not what we've been told; we are creators, we are NOW.

The future, good or not so good, lies with each and every one of us, whether you stay where you are or whether you get up and go somewhere else.

Grip's above post merits reading and rereading.

PS, congrats on 20,000 thanks Fred !

[Freed Fox]

Many great points gripreaper, very well said.

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Many are speculating that the elite plan for America includes some catastrophic failure, or an apocalyptic type collapse and reset. So far, it looks like they are slowly bleeding the wealth and resources for capital allocation, and are destroying the middle class and placing all of us into a state of poverty and subsistence level living. This has gone really well for them in the last decade, since 9-11, and permeates every sector of society.

If a catastrophic event is planned, it would be , either an expected natural phenomenon, such as an EMP from the sun, the Madrid fault splitting the country in two, a coastal tectonic shift which wipes out most of the western and eastern seaboard, or a pole shift, or some such event. Engineered events may include a war, engineered economic collapse and civil disobedience, breakdown of the centralized oil and electric grids, or a combination of the above, or a myriad of other options and false flags.

One thing that I noticed about the last election (and the discourse in general for years now) is that suddenly there is only a middle and upper class. "Lower class" has been removed entirely from the vocabulary. Leading up to this, I believe, the term 'working class' was used in substitution, but I haven't even heard that phrase for a good while now. Seems like a deliberate measure to keep people from realizing how much peril the middle class is actually in, and how much larger the lower class is than it once was.

In my opinion, any major catastrophic event to push along the agenda would almost have to be an engineered one (even if it was engineered to appear natural). TPTB don't strike me as the type to rely on factors that they can't directly (or indirectly) control. I might also be underestimating the measures they have in place to avoid such catastrophes (underground refuges, etc).

On Bill's part, I can't speak for him, but I don't think he's keeping any major revelation from us. Rather, I think he's simply playing it smart and reading between the lines, like many others around here. He's already read the handwriting, so to speak. Again, that's just IMO and I can't speak for him.

Thanks again for sharing, I appreciate your passion. God willing, I will be one of those Americans standing by your side when push comes to shove.

[Kimberley]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Hi 13th Warrior, I appreciate your passion, truly, but history shows us that war brings nothing but more war. It has failed every time it's tried, and we need look no further than all the major world powers who have fought to be free, especially the U.S. currently, to see where it ultimately leads. Now I'm not trying to tell you what to do brother, do as thou wilt, but if America is allowed to disintegrate into another Civil/Revolutionary War, everybody loses, except the elite of the elites.

And round we go again. I'm tired of going round and round again, there's a better way...

Yes and that is what I so love about Mr Keshe's claims and his proposed peace treaty and conference that can be seen here (if you have not already seen it):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post620278


Much love and much peace to us all!!

Any signatories yet?

Yes from citizens but not from rulers/leaders to the best of my understanding....

[modwiz]

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Hi 13th Warrior, I appreciate your passion, truly, but history shows us that war brings nothing but more war. It has failed every time it's tried, and we need look no further than all the major world powers who have fought to be free, especially the U.S. currently, to see where it ultimately leads. Now I'm not trying to tell you what to do brother, do as thou wilt, but if America is allowed to disintegrate into another Civil/Revolutionary War, everybody loses, except the elite of the elites.

And round we go again. I'm tired of going round and round again, there's a better way...

Yes and that is what I so love about Mr Keshe's claims and his proposed peace treaty and conference that can be seen here (if you have not already seen it):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post620278


Much love and much peace to us all!!

Any signatories yet?

Yes from citizens but not from rulers/leaders to the best of my understanding....

Thank you. Disappointing, but only a little surprising. This is the water to find out who is a good witch or a bad witch. So far, they are all melting. LOL

[Freed Fox]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Yes from citizens but not from rulers/leaders to the best of my understanding....

Thank you. Disappointing, but only a little surprising. This is the water to find out who is a good witch or a bad witch. So far they are all melting. LOL

I'd like to think that most people, even some world leaders, actually do want peace that is widespread and sustainable. What is lacking is the belief that it is possible. We see that harmonious co-existence is not only possible but preferable in small scale communities, but we have no historic recollection of the concept of world peace. Some may need a demonstration that it is more than a fantasy, even if they don't acknowledge that they must be part of that demonstration.

[modwiz]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Yes from citizens but not from rulers/leaders to the best of my understanding....

Thank you. Disappointing, but only a little surprising. This is the water to find out who is a good witch or a bad witch. So far they are all melting. LOL

I'd like to think that most people, even some world leaders, actually do want peace that is widespread and sustainable. What is lacking is the belief that it is possible. We see that harmonious co-existence is not only possible but preferable in small scale communities, but we have no historic recollection of the concept of world peace. Some may need a demonstration that it is more than a fantasy, even if they don't acknowledge that they must be part of that demonstration.

I agree and if it weren't for that pesky footage of them buggering some under-aged person, they might be able to sign it. Darn blackmail.