Barack Obama 2013

[sigma6]

Great post Rahkyt, I can hardly wait, if true, once again the US is losing it's global credibility. They will do everything in their power to block all media from exposing what is going on in the rest of the world... it's just so pathetic what is going on in the US right now... Bloody elitists just sucking every last nickel and dime out of a bunch of sheeple barely able to live and feed themselves. And the ones that have anything, just worried about their own, maybe out of fear, or ignorance...

I think the idea of revealing the truth about anything as being potentially psychologically damaging in any way is pure 100% B***SH** and has absolutely NO BASIS in REALITY.

LIES are psychologically damaging... TRUTH can never be, in the final analysis... who cannot see the logic in that?

People who don't want to believe it will continue to not to believe it. Religious organizations, will reinterpret it into their own interpretations like they always do when something happens that contradicts there current understanding... ie its called RATIONALIZATION. And most people won't even give a crap, since they won't connect it with any meaningful change in their life.

The idea it will cause mental damage was and ALWAYS has been a mind control propaganda RATIONALIZATION to justify the government coverup to people who actually got close enough to know what is really going on. IT IS 100% PURE BU**SH**!!!!

The real reason is LOSS OF FACE, LOSS OF CONTROL OF THEIR POWER AND LIABILITY ISSUES.... In other words MONEY, MONEY and MONEY!!

Their attitude is the same now as it has been for centuries, if the population at large is that stupid, and wants to be led by the nose, why should we change that?

Great post btw thanks...

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Snookie (here)
I know my Dad thought they existed, and he was a Catholic.

Chortle.......

Well my popsicle's a Lutheran, and he ain't a "believer" in any "extras"

You know Rahkyt, I have looked at the irrefutable "rock solid proof". Theres a lot of good info there. My emotional body says disclosure "this week" is wishful thinking.

Or.......lets jiggy the timelines.

[ghostrider]

telling the world something they already know won't change a thing... they already know aliens exist ... government publicly announcing it is just a formality ...

[apokalypse]

i'm trying to find video clip of Medvedev saying it before going into this thing...

[Referee]

Pretty brazen stuff here. Obama asking US military leaders will you shoot on Americans. If the answer is no they are to leave their post.

This ran on Chanel 9 Boston (IND)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kzT6X3_Bg9o

Also,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=76h7bKc_-YI

[onawah]

I FOLLOWED ALL THE LINKS FROM THE ARTICLE IN THE OP, AND FOUND NOTHING CONFIRMING THAT MEDVEDEV HAS ACTUALLY PERSONALLY ADMITTED TO ANY ET PRESENCE, OR COMMITTED TO ANY PARTICULAR, DIRECT ACTION ALONG THE LINES OF DISCLOSURE. (ALTHOUGH ALL OF THE ARTICLES ARE INTERESTING, SOME OF THEM ARE A BIT DATED.) HE CAN BE SAID TO HAVE ADMITTED TO ET PRESENCE IN A VERY ROUND ABOUT WAY, EMBEDDED IN WHAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS A JOKE, BUT THAT SEEMS TO DEPEND ON THE VANTAGE POINT OF THE REPORTER.

AT THIS LINK:
http://news.exopoliticsinstitute.org/index.php/36340/
IT SAYS:

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev’s off-air comments that Russian Presidents are given a secret file about extraterrestrials living among us created much media interest. Most news reports claimed that Medvedev was simply joking. His apparent reference to the Men In Black movie as a source of information on a super secret agency that monitors extraterrestrials on Earth was commonly cited as key evidence that he was in fact joking. The reasoning is that no political leader would refer reporters to a comedy to clarify national policy. It has now emerged that Medvedev was not referring to the Men in Black comedy after all, but to a recent Russian television documentary titled “Men in Black” that reveals many details about an extensive cover up of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth.

After completing an on-air interview with five television reporters on December 7, 2012, Prime Minister Medvedev continued to respond to reporters and made some off-air comments without realizing that the microphone was still on. He was then asked by one reporter if “the president is handed secret files on aliens when he receives the briefcase needed to activate Russia’s nuclear arsenal,” Medvedev responded:

Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special ‘top secret’ folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet… Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country… More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called Men In Black… I will not tell you how many of them are among us because it may cause panic.

After giving his detailed comments to the reporter on extraterrestrials, Medvedev was translated as follows in a Reuter’s report: “More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called ‘Men In Black’”. The Reuters translation was used by a number of media sources in concluding that Medvedev was joking, and his comments needed to be taken with a grain of salt. For example, one reporter said:

…before Russian alien conspiracy theorists can say “told you so,” the Russian PM quickly indicated that his comment was a joke. “More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called ‘Men In Black,’” he said.[/COLOR]

Another reporter subtitled his article: “Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev makes a crack about aliens, and conspiracists promptly lose their minds.”

However, a more accurate translation of what Medvedev actually said about the Men in Black phenomenon was: “You can receive more detailed information having watched the documentary film of the same name.” So Medvedev was referring to a Russian “documentary film” titled Men in Black, not the Hollywood blockbuster by the same name. Since the Russian documentary was recent and not well known outside of Russia, most Western media accepted the Reuter’s translation. The documentary was translated into English and released on Youtube on December 18, 2012.

It’s true that while Medvedev was giving his detailed response to a female reporter’s question on extraterrestrial life, the reporter was broadly smiling, and other reporters could be heard laughing in the background. Yet Medvedev appeared very serious throughout his elaborate response, and did not appear to be joking. So was Medvedev referring to the Men in Black Hollywood comedy to, at best, reveal valid information to the reporter using dry humor? Or was Medvedev instead giving a candid admission about Russian Presidents being given a secret briefing paper on a secret agency created to monitor extraterrestrials living among us, and referring to a recent Russian documentary for the reporter to follow up?

In the Russian Men In Black (MIB) documentary, a number of prominent UFO cases in Russia and the USA are discussed. The Roswell UFO crash is covered, along with a number of extraterrestrial abduction cases, and UFOs disabling nuclear weapons facilities. The documentary examines testimony that extraterrestrial bases have been established on Earth, and that some are in restricted US military areas with the full knowledge of the Pentagon. The documentary even goes on to seriously discuss President Eisenhower’s alleged meeting with extraterrestrials, where agreements were reached with some of the visitors giving them permission to take some of the Earth’s resources in exchange for advanced technology. If Medvedev wanted the female Russian reporter to explore some of the information he was revealing, then it makes sense that he was in fact referring to the Russian MIB documentary.This leads to an incredible conclusion. If Medvedev was in fact referring to the Russian MIB documentary, then he was implicitly endorsing information that extraterrestrials have established bases on remote US military facilities with Pentagon approval. Even more startling is that Medvedev was endorsing the claim that President Eisenhower had in fact met with extraterrestrials, and reached agreements for advanced technologies to be traded for planetary resources. Initial media reports of Prime Minister Medvedev’s off-air comments were simply unaware of a Russian documentary titled Men In Black, and wrongly concluded that he was referring to the MIB comedy. As the translated text of his comments now makes clear, Medvedev was referring to a Russian documentary exposing the Men in Black phenomenon, and was candidly advising the Russian reporter to investigate some of the claims found in it to learn about a worldwide cover up of extraterrestrials among us.

© Copyright 2012. Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
Exopolitics.org

AND INCLUDED IN THE ARTICLE, THERE IS THIS EMBEDDED VIDEO:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kIyrpTv2kUg

THE AUTHOR HAS DRAWN SOME CONCLUSIONS WHICH ARE LOGICAL, BUT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO ME TO INDICATE ANY PARTICULAR COMMITMENT ON MEDEDEV'S PART TO DISCLOSE PUBLICLY, EXCEPT PERHAPS IN A VERY ROUND-ABOUT WAY.
THE NEXT LINK WE ARE TAKEN TO FROM RAF'S ARTICLE IS HERE:
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/10/5_si...oke/singleton/
WHERE WE FIND THIS ARTICLE:

This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

AlterNet Fresh off Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard joking about the coming apocalypse in the year 2012, Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev has made a quip about alien invasions — sparking fevered speculation from the fringes of the Internet.

On Friday, Medvedev joked during an interview that “each Russian leader gets two folders with information about extraterrestrials that visited our planet — and stayed here,” one news report said.

“Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special ‘top secret’ folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet,” Medvedev said during an interview with Ren TV. “Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country.”

Medvedev also added that you can get “more detailed information on this topic … from a well-known movie called ‘Men in Black.’”

And with that, the online community who fervently believes in aliens and UFOs went into overdrive mode. It’s proof that their sense of humor is, well, a bit off — they took the Medvedev interview seriously, despite the “Men in Black” references.

Here’s 5 examples of how the UFO community reacted to Medvedev’s remarks.

1. ‘False Flag Alien Invasion’?

On Beforeitsnews.com, a conspiracy-laden website, reports of Medvedev’s remarks were greeted with utter seriousness . “Is this the beginning of the ‘false flag’ alien invasion, Project Blue Beam?” wrote one unnamed contributor. The title of the YouTube clip they posted is: “Alien invasion confirmed by Russian PM.”

2. UFO Forum Buys It

The beforeitsnews.com report was reposted on a forum at alien-ufos.com. There, too, the report was taken seriously. “Was he winding the journalists up? was he caught off guard and let slip of the tongue?” one commenter wrote. Another contributor wrote: “Well, thats how it is nowadays. NASA doesn’t care to remove ufo’s from their photos anymore, and russian PM’s can talk freely about the subject on tv. It doesn’t really matter, because nobody believes the truth, even when it’s thrown in their faces. Sad really.”

3. ‘This Amounts to a Disclosure’

At another forum, Project Camelot, one commenter wrote that “this amounts to a Disclosure, although no ships are shown now. Medvedev, currently Russian PM, is the third or fourth Russian official, and undoubtedly the highest until now (former president) who speaks of aliens ET. If this is not enough to move spirits around the world, I don’t know what will be.”

The same commenter later wrote: “For me, this announcement is the first step to not only ET manifestation around Dec 21 in Russia, but also start of rescue process for whatever need. We are still not told plainly of the real reason of concern in 2012 saga.”

4. Medvedev’s ‘Gaffe’

A “gaffe” usually refers to an instance where a politician says something in an inarticulate way but still reveals some truth the politician believes in. That’s not what Medvedev did, but one blogger thinks he committed a gaffe.

The headline of a blog post on UFOHunterOrguk.com reads: “Medvedev Comments Further on Alien Gaffe.”

5. Another ‘Disclosure’ Claim

Similar to the sentiment on Project Camelot, another website reports that what Medvedev did was disclose something. GalacticConnection.com headlines an article with: “Aliens Are Living Among Us.”

The same piece goes on to say that this was a “disclosure” from Russia.

Alex Kane is a staff reporter at Mondoweiss and the World editor at AlterNet. His work has also appeared in The Daily Beast, the Electronic Intifada, Extra! and Common Dreams. Follow him on Twitter @alexbkane.

THE NEXT LINK IS THIS ONE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/vati...ial-disclosure
WHICH TAKES US TO ANOTHER ARTICLE FROM NOVEMBER 2009 BY DR. MICHAEL SALLA AS FOLLOWS:

The Vatican has just completed a five day conference astrobiology where scientists convened to discuss the detection and implications of extraterrestrial life. A major driving force behind the conference was the Director of the Vatican Observatory, the Jesuit priest Father Jose Gabriel Funes. In May 2008, Funes gave an interview to the Vatican’s L’Osservatore Romano newspaper saying that the existence of intelligent extraterrestrials posed no problems to Catholic theology. The conference itself was officially convened by the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences, chaired by its religious leader Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, and was held on private Vatican grounds from November 6-10. Together with Funes’ 2008 interview and subsequent public comments by him, the conference demonstrates a welcome openness by the Vatican on the possibility and implications of extraterrestrial life. The Vatican’s openness to discussion of extraterrestrial life is no accident. It is part of an openness policy secretly adopted by the United Nations in February 2008. In fact, the Vatican is playing a leading role in preparing the world for extraterrestrial disclosure.

For most observers, the conference was an innovative scientific gathering sanctioned by the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences to show the Holy See’s support for modern science in the detection of extraterrestrial life. The conference primarily focused on the detection of primitive extraterrestrial life forms, and featured presentations from nearly 30 international experts in astronomy, physics and biology. Marc Kaufman from the Washington Post reports:

Scientists (many of them nonbelievers) are offering presentations on subjects as varied as how life might have begun on Earth; what newly found "extremophile" microbes living in harsh places on our planet might tell us about possible life on others; and how life forms might be detected in our solar system, or how their bio-signatures might be found on and around the many distant exoplanets.

Discussion of the implications of intelligent extraterrestrial life, both scientific and theological, did not appear prominently in the conference agenda. One of the presenters, however, Prof Paul Davies commented on the religious implications of discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life: "If you look back at the history of Christian debate on this, it divides into two camps. There are those that believe that it is human destiny to bring salvation to the aliens, and those who believe in multiple incarnations," Davies pointed out that the multiple incarnations theory, the idea that multiple examples of Jesus Christ would be found in the universe “is a heresy in Catholicism."

The Vatican, through Funes, is supporting the idea that the incarnation of Christ is a unique event in Earth’s history tied in to humanity’s ‘fall’ and ‘original sin’. This idea was a major focus in Father Funes’ May 2008 interview which was titled "The extraterrestrial is my brother." Funes said that intelligent extraterrestrial life may not have experienced a ‘fall’, and may be “free from Original Sin … [remaining] in full friendship with their creator.” This makes it possible to regard them as ‘our brothers’ as Funes explained:

Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom… "Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation…

Most importantly, Funes’ statement makes possible the idea that Christianity can be exported to extraterrestrial worlds that have not experienced a ‘fall’ and are free from original sin.

The Vatican’s new openness on extraterrestrial life is consistent with reports of secret discussions held at the United Nations that began in February 2008. The Vatican’s permanent representative to the UN, Archbishop Celestino Migliore, was reported to have attended along with a number of other prominent government officials to discuss increased UFO sightings and the implications of extraterrestrial visitation. Significantly, Migliore's position requires that he maintains close relations with the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences. At the time of the secret UN discussions, Migliore made a presentation on moral issues associated with scientific problems such as climate change. Most importantly, the UN discussions reportedly led to a new policy of openness being adopted by approximately 30 nations that would begin in 2009.

Another noteworthy participant reported to have attended the 2008 UN discussions was Britain’s Permanent representative at the time, Sir John Sawers. Sawers was later appointed to head Britain’s prestigious foreign intelligence service MI6. The appointment of a diplomat to head an intelligence service was highly unusual. According to a BBC report: “giving the job to someone more recently associated with diplomatic service was regarded as a break from the tradition.” Seen in the context of the February UN meetings, perhaps MI6 was acknowledging the need for greater diplomacy in dealing with problems posed by a new openness policy on UFOs, and eventual disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

The Vatican sponsored astrobiology conference was a landmark event. It showed that the Vatican was willing to officially sanction public discussions on the existence of extraterrestrial life. More significantly, it showed that the Vatican was willing to initiate a comprehensive dialogue on the theological implications of the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life. The Vatican’s astrobiology conference is yet one more sign that major global institutions are preparing for some kind of formal disclosure concerning UFOs and/or extraterrestrial life. This is a direct outcome of a series of landmark meetings at the UN beginning in February 2008 that led to the adoption of a new openness policy.

After more than a year of openness, the Vatican is taking the openness policy to a new level, and preparing the public for some kind of formal extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Numerous independent sources have predicted such disclosure is imminent, and that the Obama administration is expected to play a prominent role. The Vatican is also positioning itself to play a major role in such an announcement and in a post-disclosure world. Its emerging theological position that extraterrestrials “are our brothers” is a welcome departure from more hostile depictions of extraterrestrial life found in some religious denominations and in Hollywood movies. On the other hand, the idea that the Vatican could justify sending missionaries to convert extraterrestrials born without original sin, does raise major concerns. The Vatican, nevertheless, is currently playing a constructive role in preparing the public for the imminent disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

GREAT ARTICLE, BUT NOTHING CURRENT ABOUT MEDEDEV OR RUSSIA DISCLOSING.

THE NEXT LINK TAKES US TO AN AMAZON.COM PAGE ADVERTISING TIMOTHY GOOD'S BOOK.
THE NEXT LINK TAKES US TO:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nt-claims.html
AND THIS ARTICLE FROM FEBRUARY 2012:

President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims

Ex-President met with extra-terrestrials on three separate occasions at New Mexico air base
Eisenhower and FBI officials organised the meetings by sending out 'telepathic messages'

By Anthony Bond
UPDATED: 02:58 EST, 15 February 2012

Former American President Dwight D. Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, a former US government consultant has claimed.

The 34th President of the United States met the extra terrestrials at a remote air base in New Mexico in 1954, according to lecturer and author Timothy Good.

Eisenhower and other FBI officials are said to have organiZed the showdown with the space creatures by sending out 'telepathic messages'.
Bizarre: Former American President Dwight D. Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, a former US government consultant has claimed.

The two parties finally met up on three separate occasions at the Holloman Air Force base and there were 'many witnesses'.

Conspiracy theorists have circulated increased rumours in recent months that the meeting between the Commander-in-Chief and people from another planet took place.

But the claims from Mr Good, a former U.S. Congress and Pentagon consultant, are the first to be made publicly by a prominent academic.

Speaking on Frank Skinner's BBC2 current affairs show Opinionated, he said that governments around the world have been in regular contact with aliens for many decades.
Odd meeting: It has been claimed that Dwight D. Eisenhower met the extra-terrestrials at the Holloman Air Force base in New Mexico

'Aliens have made both formal and informal contact with thousands of people throughout the world from all walks of life,' he added.

Asked why the aliens don't go to somebody 'important' like Barack Obama, he said: 'Well, certainly I can tell you that in 1954, President Eisenhower had three encounters, set up meetings with aliens, which took place at certain Air Force bases including Holloman Air Force base in New Mexico.'

He added that there were 'many witnesses'.

Eisenhower, who was president from 1953 to 1961, is known to have had a strong belief in life on other planets

Extra-terrestrial: Eisenhower, who was president from 1953 to 1961, is known to have had a strong belief in life on other planets

The former five-star general in the United States Army who commanded the Allied Forces in Europe during the Second World War, was also keen on pushing the U.S. space programe.

His meeting with the cosmic life forms is said to have taken place while officials were told that he was on vacation in Palm Springs, California, in February 1954.

The initial meeting is supposed to have taken place with aliens who were 'Nordic' in appearance, but the agreement was eventually 'signed' with a race called 'Alien Greys'.

Mr Good added: 'We know that up to 90 per cent of all UFO reports can be explained in conventional terms. However, I would say millions of people worldwide have actually seen the real thing.'

According to classified documents released by the Ministry of Defence in 2010, Winston Churchill may have ordered a UFO sighting to be kept secret.

The UFO was seen over the East Coast of England by an RAF reconnaissance plane returning from a mission in France or Germany towards the end of the war.

Churchill is said to have discussed how to deal with UFO sightings with Eisenhower.

THE NEXT LINK TAKES US TO THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE (with photo):
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_19/30...f-Vladivostok/

300-million-year-old UFO tooth-wheel found in Russian city of Vladivostok

Yulia Zamanskaya

Jan 19, 2013 20:55 Moscow Time
Lighting the fire during a cold winter evening a resident of Vladivostok found a rail-shaped metal detail which was pressed in one of the pieces of coal that the man used to heat his home. Mesmerized by his discovery, the responsible citizen decided to seek help from the scientists of Primorye region. After the metal object was studied by the leading experts the man was shocked to learn about the assumed age of his discovery. The metal detail was supposedly 300 million years old and yet the scientists suggest that it was not created by nature but was rather manufactured by someone. The question of who might have made an aluminum gear in the dawn of time remains unanswered.

Nowadays, finding a strange artifact in coal is a relatively frequent occurrence. The first discovery of this sort was made in 1851 when the workers in one of the Massachusetts mines extracted a zinc silver-incrusted vase from a block of unmined coal which dated all the way back to the Cambrian era which was approximately 500 million years ago. Sixty one years later, American scientists from Oklahoma discovered an iron pot which was pressed into a piece of coal aged 312 million years old. Then, in 1974, an aluminum assembly part of unknown origin was found in a sandstone quarry in Romania. Reminiscent of a hammer or a support leg of a spacecraft “Apollo”, the piece dated back to the Jurassic era and could not have been manufactured by a human. All of these discoveries not only puzzled the experts but also undermined the most fundamental doctrines of modern science.

The metal detail which was recently found by Vladivostok resident is yet another discovery which perplexed the scientists. The coal in which the metal object was pressed was delivered to Primorye from Chernogorodskiy mines of Khakasia region. Knowing that the coal deposits of this region date 300 million years back, Russian experts inferred that the metal detail found in these deposits must be an age-mate of the coal.

When geologists broke the piece of coal in which the metal object was pressed into and spot-treated in with special chemical agents, it turned out that the metal detail was unusually light and soft. No more than seven centimeters long, the object was found to be composed of 98 percent aluminum and 2 percent magnesium. On the one hand, such an alloy stalled the scientists because nearly pure aluminum is very rarely found in nature. Thus, the detail was most definitely created artificially. On the other hand, however, when it became clear that the object was made from aluminum-magnesium alloy the experts quickly found an answer to the question of how a metal detail could withstand the ravages of time so well. The scientists explained that pure aluminum is increasingly prone to oxidization which contributes to the creation of a special layer protecting it from further corrosion. As a result, the metal detail made 98 percent from aluminum can endure not only high pressure but also heat and other severe natural conditions.

Another question that interests Russian scientists is whether the aluminum alloy is of Earthly origin. It is known from the study of meteorites that there exists extra-terrestrial aluminum-26 which subsequently breaks down to magnesium-26. The presence of 2 percent of magnesium in the alloy might well point to the alien origin of the aluminum detail. Nonetheless, further testing is needed to confirm this hypothesis.

The last property of the object that puzzled the scientists was its distinctive shape which was reminiscent of a modern tooth-wheel. It is hard to imagine that an object could take regular shape of a tooth-wheel with six identical ‘teeth’ naturally. Moreover, the intervals between the ‘teeth’ of the gear are curiously large in relation to the size of the ‘teeth’ themselves which might mean that the detail was a part of a complicated mechanism. Nowadays, such ‘spare parts’ are used in construction of microscopes and other mechanical appliances. This poses yet another unanswerable question to the modern scientists: how can the metal tooth-wheel be 300 million years old if the regular-shaped ‘wheel’ itself was created by man millions of years later.

After the discovery came public, conspirators were quick to dub it ‘a UFO tooth-wheel’. Russian scientists, however, do not jump to conclusions and will run further tests to learn more about the strange artifact.

NEXT LINK:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2482840.html
GOES TO THIS ARTICLE (WITH VIDEOS)

UFOs On The Moon: Scientists, Astronauts And YouTube Users Report Strange Sightings

By Lee Speigel Posted: 01/16/2013 9:45 am EST | Updated: 01/16/2013 11:38 am EST

People claim to videotape UFOs in the sky above Earth. They also spot unusual-looking objects in NASA camera feeds at the International Space Station.

Now, a growing number of individuals insist they're using their telescopes and cameras to reveal UFOs around the moon, according to the International Business Times.

Many odd things have been seen by amateur and professional astronomers on the moon over decades, and YouTube affords the opportunity to look at alleged UFOs flying across, toward and away from our nearest astronomical neighbor.

Look at this group of videos of alleged UFO activity around the moon

UFOs On The Moon

Part of the problem with most videos like these is the lack of specific, helpful information to accompany the visual "evidence," so it's difficult to know what's real and what was created from a clever software app.

But, lunar anomalies are not new phenomena. They've been reported by astronomers going back to the 1700s. Strange things seen by the scientists of centuries past included mysterious bright lights or glowing spots on the moon. In 1869, Great Britain's Royal Astronomical Society conducted a study of unusual moving lights. After numerous observations of this activity, the lights just turned off.

On July 29, 1953, New York Herald Tribune science editor John J. O'Neill noticed, through his telescope, a huge bridge-like object spanning 12 miles in the lunar area known as Mare Crisium. Other observers, including Hugh Percy Wilkins of the British Astronomical Association, confirmed O'Neill's sighting on the lunar surface. The object that became known as O'Neill's Bridge, was eventually thought to be nothing more than a combination of lights and shadows.

The history of the Apollo flights to the moon in the late 1960s into the 1970s included countless tabloid stories of supposed UFO encounters experienced by the astronauts.

Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin describes a UFO that accompanied them en route to the moon in 1969

THE NEXT LINK, FOR "EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY"
http://www.pakalertpress.com/tag/european-space-agency/
IS JUST THE MAIN PAGE FOR THAT ORGANIZATION

NEXT LINK IS http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-river-on-mars
AND THIS ARTICLE (WITH PHOTOS):

European Space Agency Discovers 'Striking' Ancient River on Mars
The river is nearly 1,000 miles long and almost 1,000 feet deep at points

By Jason Koebler
January 18, 2013 RSS Feed Print
This image by the European Space Agency shows the Reull Vallis on Mars.

This image by the European Space Agency shows the Reull Vallis on Mars.

The European Space Agency announced Thursday that it has taken high-definition pictures of an ancient river nearly 1,000 miles long on Mars.

According to the report, the "striking" river also has "numerous tributaries" and is believed to be more than 4 miles wide and nearly 1,000 feet deep at some points. The agency believes that the river was carved by water between 1.8 and 3.5 billion years ago and went dry due to evaporation.

The agency has named the river Reull Vallis. The photos were taken with the ESA's Mars Express satellite last year.

This image shows the Reull Vallis, a nearly 1,000 mile long river on Mars discovered by the European Space Agency.

[RELATED: Ancient Meteorite Suggests Mars Had Lots Of Water]

"The region shows a striking resemblance to the morphology found in regions on Earth affected by glaciation," the ESA said in a statement. The discovery is "giving planetary geologists tantalizing glimpses of a past on the Red Planet not too dissimilar to events on our own world."

In September, NASA announced that its Curiosity Rover had discovered evidence of an "ancient stream" that "once ran vigorously" near the Gale Crater that the rover is exploring. According to that report, the stream may have been several feet deep.

[onawah]

The article at:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1649.htm
says at the bottom:

January 22, 2012 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

So it does appear to have originated with Sorcha Faal.
Here is the rest of the article, which I would say is misleading concerning Medvedev.

January 22, 2013

Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers



A stunning Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) report on Prime Minister Medvedev’s [photo top left] agenda at the World Economic Forum (WEF) this week states that Russia will warn President Obama that the “time has come” for the world to know the truth about aliens, and if the United States won’t participate in the announcement, the Kremlin will do so on its own.

The WEF (The Forum) is a Swiss non-profit foundation, based in Cologny, Geneva and describes itself as an independent international organization committed to improving the state of the world by engaging business, political, academic and other leaders of society to shape global, regional and industry agendas.

The Forum is best known for its annual meeting in Davos, a mountain resort in Graubünden, in the eastern Alps region of Switzerland. The meeting brings together some 2,500 top business leaders, international political leaders, selected intellectuals and journalists to discuss the most pressing issues facing the world, including health and the environment.

Medvedev is scheduled to open this years Forum where as many as 50 heads of government, including Germany’s Angela Merkel and Britain’s David Cameron, will attend the five-day meeting that begins on 23 January.

Critical to note about this years Forum is that the WEF, in their 2013 Executive Summary, scheduled for debate and discussion a number of items under their X Factors from Nature category, and which includes the “discovery of alien life” of which they state: “Proof of life elsewhere in the universe could have profound psychological implications for human belief systems.”

Equally critical to note is that Medvedev, after completing a 7 December 2012 on-camera interview with reporters in Moscow, continued to respond to reporters and made some off-air comments without realizing that his microphone was still on. He was then asked by one reporter if “the president is handed secret files on aliens when he receives the briefcase needed to activate Russia’s nuclear arsenal,” Medvedev responded:

“Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special ‘top secret’ folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet… Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country… More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called Men In Black… I will not tell you how many of them are among us because it may cause panic.”

Western news sources reporting on Medvedev’s shocking reply about aliens stated that he was “joking” as he mentioned the movie Men In Black, which they wrongly assumed was a reference to the 1997 American sci-fi adventure comedy about two top secret agents battling aliens in the US.

Medvedev, however, wasn’t referring to the American movie but was, instead, talking about the famous Russian movie documentary Men In Black which details many UFO and alien anomalies. [Full MIB length movie in Russian with English subtitles can be viewed HERE.]

Where Western news sources quoted Medvedev as saying “More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called ‘Men In Black,’” his actual answer was, “You can receive more detailed information having watched the documentary film of the same name.”

The reason(s) for Western propaganda news outlets deliberately distorting Medvedev’s words become apparent after his shocking statement, and as evidenced in just one example of their so called reporting on this disclosure of alien life already being on our planet where the title of one such article was “Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev makes a crack about aliens, and conspiracists promptly lose their minds.”

If anyone is “losing their minds” about aliens, it must be pointed out, it is certainly not Russia, but the Vatican, which in November 2009 announced it was “preparing for extraterrestrial disclosure.”

Equally, and apparently, “losing their minds” are US government officials themselves, such as former Pentagon consultant Timothy Good, and author of Above Top Secret: The Worldwide U.F.O. Cover-Up, who in February 2012 stated that former President Dwight Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens who were 'Nordic' in appearance and wherein a ‘Pact’ was signed to keep their agenda on Earth secret.

With the recent discovery in the Russian city of Vladivostok of a 300-million-year-old UFO tooth-wheel, and scientists, astronauts and YouTube users reporting increasingly strange happenings on the moon, the European Space agency reporting their discovery of a 1,000 ancient river on Mars, and UK and Sri Lanka scientists saying they now have “rock solid proof of alien life” after finding fossilized algae inside meteorite, the only ones who seem to be truly “losing their minds” are the Western, especially American, propagandists who for decades have covered up one of the most important stories in all of human history that “we are not alone.”

To if Medvedev will be able to convince the Obama regime to tell the truth about UFO and aliens at the WEF this week it is not in our knowing. What is in our knowing, though, is that with or without the US, the Kremlin will surely begin the process of telling the truth about that which we already know to be true.

My feeling is that Sorcha Faal seems to put the spotlight on information in such a way as to pressure people in the public arena to back down, rather than encourage them to disclose.
It's done in such a way as to attract negative attention, rather than positive.
Though when it comes to Dr. Salla, Timothy Good and others of similar intent, I think the goal is just the reverse.
It all depends on the spin.

[shadowstalker]

So who will replace the military leaders I wonder, I wonder.
The Chinese Military?

[Hervé]

I didn't want to start a new thread with it, so I posted the following on some of my threads:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Spamming my own threads with this very important information which, most likely, is true:

Remember this no-nonsense piece:

Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version

from TheCanadian Website

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?

In Political Ponerology, Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm

Well, guess what?

Now, it seems that "they" are hiring leaders of the US military on the basis of the very criteria described in the above paper:


From http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...r-not_01222013:

Shock Claim: “The New Litmus Test Of Leadership In The Military Is If They Will Fire On US Citizens Or Not”

Mac Slavo
January 22nd, 2013
SHTFplan.com
Comments (529)
Read by 30,126 people

Had the following comments been made on a fringe corner of the internet most would dismiss them as outright conjecture. However, what you are about to read comes from one of the world’s foremost philanthropists, Jim Garrow, who has spent tens of millions of dollars of his own money to help over 35,000 Chinese baby girls from near certain death under China’s one-child-per-couple policy.

He was one of the 206 nominees for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, which was ultimately awarded to President Barack Obama.

Garrow, who has friends in high places, including the U.S. military, made a startling claim on his Facebook page Sunday, which if true, should leave no doubt about why the Obama administration is moving full force to seize firearms from law abiding Americans and why the US government’s law enforcement and security assets have been making preparations for years in anticipation of social breakdown and widespread civil unrest.

According to Garrow, the Obama administration has been rapidly retiring or re-assigning US military leaders based on a new ‘litmus test’ of their loyalty:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks.
“The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”.
Those who will not are being removed.
Dr. Jim Garrow – January 21, 2013

When pressed for the source of his information and asked why the senior military leader would not reveal his name, Garrow responded by saying, “I believe that the gentleman has done what he should and allowed all of us to sound the alarm.”

He revealed only that the man who shared this information, “is one of America’s foremost military heroes,” suggesting the source is a public figure.

Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars notes that this new ‘litmus test’ comes at a time when millions of Americans are already suspicious of the government’s motives behind a number of actions, including the most recent push to disarm the population:

Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.

It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

Would Jim Garrow put his reputation on the line by spreading a rumor or simply make this up to garner attention?

Or, is it possible that he does in fact have a high level military source who is privy to this information – someone who has himself been removed from his position because he didn’t pass the litmus test?

Should the Obama administration take Executive Actions against Americans in the event of a scenario where gun confiscation becomes reality or a collapse of our economic system leads to a complete meltdown of law and order on the streets of America, the administration would likely deploy military assets under martial law to subdue any uprisings or riots.

The only way this could be done is if military leaders are willing to command their subordinates to deploy against the American people and fire on them if necessary.

If Garrow’s claims are true, one can only shudder at the thought of what the end-game may be.

Author: Mac Slavo
Views: Read by 30,126 people
Date: January 22nd, 2013
Website: www.SHTFplan.com

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[JohnEAngel]

it's one thing for the government to announce disclosure and another thing to substantiate it. substantiation will mean major changes to the planet as we are now so dependent on oil for energy. such an announcement and subsequent evidence can only result in nothing less than a greater existence.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Complements of Sorcha...

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed.”

MFA intelligence analysts writing in this report state that Dr. Garrow’s “source” for this information was “undoubtedly” the US Marine Corp legend General James Mattis who was head of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM), but was ordered by Obama this past week to vacate his offices immediately...

And with the most prestigious military institution in America, West Point, having just issued a paper warning about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, who support basic values like “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government,” now being labeled by the Obama regime as “domestic terrorists,”...

Sorcha Report

no sense hiding sources...

[Mark]

Good points, Sigma6, power and control is everything. There is very little incentive on the part of the elite to reveal such a truth unless it somehow served their interests.

Apokalypse, here's video, although I don't speak Russian and can't verify the translation. It was my understanding that the MiB comment was made off-camera with a mic on, but, here is one of the many vids touting Medvedev confirming alien visitation to earth that is available out there:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo

ViralSpiral, I cultivate a "wait and see" attitude for everything. LOL People can say what they want, can even believe it, but until it is actually out there in the public sphere it remains conjecture, hence, my original statement:

Whatever the truth of the matter is, we shall see. But this article seems to be building upon another gathering of momentum for Disclosure in the near future.

Onawah, thanks for putting up the texts for the links in the article. Like you, I could not find anything on the linked websites that spoke on Medvedev making an ultimatum either. While I do not dismiss Sorcha Faal as easily as many do - I do know the history and what people say about the man who is supposed to be behind the front of a sisterhood of enlightened warriors for humanity - I believe that you may have a point about this form of disinformation being preventive.

But why would Sorcha Faal want to prevent Disclosure? Or, discredit it by putting out articles that can be so easily proven to be patently false in their primary claims? What would be gained by such a strategy? From what I know of their website and articles, they very rarely treat issues of an extra-terrestrial nature. They're more on the spiritual tip, colored by a pseudo-Christian perspective. To put pressure on the Russians in this way, and also on the US, there seems to be a very specific method to the madness. The use of the phrase "Russia orders Obama" makes it a direct challenge, perhaps attempting to create disharmony between the alternative communities in both countries and their alliances.

Definitely food for thought.

[apokalypse]

i find interesting how the sheep find aliens topics least important or not considering part of their life or society... once humans officially made contact with other civilization from out there then it will change everything with our education/knowledge and society. this will have huge impact the way we think and live.

just wish this come true and the whole lid blow off...but at same time considering what's the agenda and who are these beings that Government speaking off.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the Bethune institute uses the 5 toed Dragon, wow, very interesting for those who understand what it means...

heard it through the grapevine... can't mention it was Sorcha? I wonder why...

[onawah]

As with most skilled disinfo agents, there is usually enough truth in Sorcha Faal's articles to capture our attention, but again, the spin is the thing.
I haven't paid enough attention to Faal's articles to get a clear idea of what the hidden agenda might be, but you could certainly be right in this:

pseudo-Christian perspective. To put pressure on the Russians in this way, and also on the US, there seems to be a very specific method to the madness. The use of the phrase "Russia orders Obama" makes it a direct challenge, perhaps attempting to create disharmony between the alternative communities in both countries and their alliances.

Perhaps it's all of a piece with what Selene said in her post #222 at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...529#post621529
about the Sandy Hook disinfo
which begins:

The deliberate “muddying the waters” tactic cited in Turiya’s post #215 of multiple fake stories and setting red herrings is part of the psyop and designed to confound and later purposely discredit truth investigators.

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Onawah, thanks for putting up the texts for the links in the article. Like you, I could not find anything on the linked websites that spoke on Medvedev making an ultimatum either. While I do not dismiss Sorcha Faal as easily as many do - I do know the history and what people say about the man who is supposed to be behind the front of a sisterhood of enlightened warriors for humanity - I believe that you may have a point about this form of disinformation being preventive.

But why would Sorcha Faal want to prevent Disclosure? Or, discredit it by putting out articles that can be so easily proven to be patently false in their primary claims? What would be gained by such a strategy? From what I know of their website and articles, they very rarely treat issues of an extra-terrestrial nature. They're more on the spiritual tip, colored by a pseudo-Christian perspective. To put pressure on the Russians in this way, and also on the US, there seems to be a very specific method to the madness. The use of the phrase "Russia orders Obama" makes it a direct challenge, perhaps attempting to create disharmony between the alternative communities in both countries and their alliances.

Definitely food for thought.

[Arrowwind]

If the Chinese think that Obama is a traitor to the US people maybe it will be the Chinese who save us?
That would be a switch-a-roo!

[Rocky_Shorz]

the 5 toed dragon is the Symbol of the Royal family of China no one else is allowed to use it...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
So who will replace the military leaders I wonder, I wonder.
The Chinese Military?

Sounds to me like a recipe for a smaller military, and for Dept of Homeland Security handling internal US "security", just like the title of the Department says.

[Arrowwind]

Clearly our military leaders need to start lying on this litmus test.
In this case the ends justify the means.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Why don't they ask if an American with a machine gun is firing at your troops, will you allow them to shoot back?

or if a Militia has wiped out the police forces in the US, will you send in troops to regain control?

when you have politicians saying they are going to be the first one shooting with their BushMaster, and is building a small army to overturn the government, will you defend the country?

the one sided right wing slant doesn't work for me...