David Icke 2013

[Cidersomerset]

I think David got a little bit excited about this one..LOl..


Big Shock to the Big Bang: As David Icke has been saying in his books for 20
years - there was no Big Bang

Monday, 04 February 2013 12:12
Posted by David Icke

Given that mainstream science is based on the fact that the Big Bang happened
when it didn't the entire edifice of song sheet official 'science' must therefore be
pseudo-'scientific' nonsense.

Mainstream science is largely not science at all, but an endless list of flawed
assumptions constantly repeated until they are accepted as fact.

Icke's law: bollocks begets bollocks.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_c9M33FLH40

Published on 2 Feb 2013


According to astronomers a recently discovered group of quasars exceeds in size
anything previously believed possible, requiring a fundamental revision of cosmological
theory. But perhaps the real mystery is how the scientific media failed to acknowledge
that discoveries of this sort were predicted by one of the 20th century's leading
astronomers, Halton Arp. Many years ago, Arp observed that astronomers were
misinterpreting quasar redshift, placing these objects at the boundaries of observable
space. Quasars, he said, are much closer than assumed and nothing like the size
required by the standard interpretation of redshift.

The Thunderbolts Project put together an e-book for anyone interested in learning
more about the Electric Universe view on the Big Bang. It's available for download
at Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/122109768/...ctric-Big-Bang

[bogeyman]

There wasn't any big bang..this is something to just explain unknowns in science. It was just a theory, and incorrect one at that.

[Cidersomerset]

Rosen Worked at Fairfield Hills; CIA Brainwashing

Monday, 04 February 2013 12:07

Posted by David Icke





'Gene Rosen worked at the Fairfield Hills mental hospital.

"Gene Rosen, a resident of Sandy Hook, CT for the past twenty years,
is a retired psychologist who worked for several years in Newtown at Fairfield Hills State Hospital."'

Read more: Rosen Worked at Fairfield Hills; CIA Brainwashing

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...-brainwashing-

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Tomorows headlines " Big Bang theory turns out to be Huge Suck actuality"

Thunderbolts was/is great, makes sense, even to me. ( not a cosmologist )

[araucaria]

The big bang is a mental process. In Dark Planets, Tom van Flandern starts out from a single particle and thinks his way up to a nearly infinite universe.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Interesting video. Makes sense - something the Big Bang never did.

In my writings I try to explain this incorrect assumption about the Big Bang in a number of ways. My most compelling argument is the idea of scales.
At the moment of the Big Bang that was the universe - a tiny atom-like structure. A second later it was a few light years across - but only from the point of view of the starting point was it larger. The universe is the same size continuously. Only when compared to some other time - in the past - is the universe larger or smaller. These are ideas of scale. And they are entirely time-dependant.

I know it makes little sense. As above, so below - may be easier to grasp. It is a matter of scale or level. It is actually a threshold of awareness, and nothing at all to do with reality "out there".

In the absence of everything, nothing is infinite. In the absence of nothing, everything is infinite.

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of vids about them, i had not heard of them before sounds interresting
looking at the cosmos with the help of mythology and the electric universe...

ion says the universe is created from pure electricity squared and a bit
more i can't remember off hand ...LOl..


Wal Thornhill & David Talbott | EU 2013 Off-Stage

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p9iQWxS50Ik

Published on 31 Jan 2013


Wal Thornhill and David Talbott, founding members of The Thunderbolts Project,
sat down for an interview at the recent conference, ELECTRIC UNIVERSE: THE
TIPPING POINT. They review their converging interests, giving personal
observations on the state of science today and the growing Electric Universe
movement.

For more interviews with Wal, David, and many of the other great minds involved in
the Electric Universe, listen to our podcast, available for free subscription at:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oVlN0P8O6ug

[Cidersomerset]

We all know this was coming ..LOL Now i started watching ..........

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xSB93dGMGeg

Uploaded on 19 Feb 2012


To purchase the full DVD: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/reso...2-conference-d...

Author David Talbott suggests that all of human history can be seen as just two
stories. First, came the story of ancient mythology, when towering gods were said
to have ruled the world. Then came the story of science, emerging from a growing
distrust of the myths and a new emphasis on direct observation and reason.

But a third story is possible, according to Talbott, one that sees the underlying
provocation of the myths in extraordinary electrical events occurring close to the
Earth. That discernment will lead to a new perspective on modern science as well.
Today, a third story IS possible. But it requires a reconsideration of both human
stories—that of myth and that of "settled science"—seeing both through the fresh
lens of the Electric Universe."


That was a really good presentation bringing a lot of things I have read/watched
over the last few years together !!

[OnyxKnight]

This is misleading.

This only shows that the universe's age might not be what it was thought to be, and the rate at which quasars form and disperse in space is not what we thought it would be.

Essentially, a Big Bang is only one phase a certain universe goes through, and these events are always cyclic in nature. But of course, media being misleading, as always.

[Carmody]

That time exists only in wave particle components. That time exists as differential between any two.

That in a superconductive 2-d sheet, which is how it works..there is no time.

Which is your clue about longitudinal and transverse wave function in an electric universe.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
There wasn't any big bang..this is something to just explain unknowns in science. It was just a theory, and incorrect one at that.

I agree 100%.

[gigha]

How do you know that 100% Not a dig or anything but my gut just works different

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by bogeyman (here)
There wasn't any big bang..this is something to just explain unknowns in science. It was just a theory, and incorrect one at that.

I agree 100%.

[gigha]

Is there anything that is 100%

"All is well" and as it should be?

[araucaria]

Sometimes anything less than 100% can be just plain sloppy.

Clearly, the conventional view that the physical universe originated in a big bang explosion represents a violation on a stupendous scale of both the first and second laws of thermodynamics. But this detail is often ignored on the grounds that the actual violation would have taken place in a very brief time interval, lasting less than 10 -43^ seconds. Paul LaViolette, Subquantum Kinetics, p.6

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Carmody (here)
That time exists only in wave particle components. That time exists as differential between any two.

That in a superconductive 2-d sheet, which is how it works..there is no time.

Which is your clue about longitudinal and transverse wave function in an electric universe.

Lets say then that this is about our perception of what we think its "time". As faulty as it is. Even with your own explanation, the above said still stands.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by bogeyman (here)
There wasn't any big bang..this is something to just explain unknowns in science. It was just a theory, and incorrect one at that.

I agree 100%.

I believe you have background in physics/astrophysics Bill. Would you mind explaining to us why you agree with this notion 100%? What have others missed?

Posted by araucaria (here)
Sometimes anything less than 100% can be just plain sloppy.

Clearly, the conventional view that the physical universe originated in a big bang explosion represents a violation on a stupendous scale of both the first and second laws of thermodynamics. But this detail is often ignored on the grounds that the actual violation would have taken place in a very brief time interval, lasting less than 10 -43^ seconds. Paul LaViolette, Subquantum Kinetics, p.6

Yes, it has to do with things moving at FTL speeds in the very birth stage of the universe, which is a "violation" of physical laws. But is it?

[Kristin]

Great thread, Bump.

[bogeyman]

Many theories in science were excepted until something came along to disprove it, its remarkable that "common sense" isn't used, for many false assumptions and theories have slow us down, in some cases for over a thousand years.

[Cidersomerset]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA

[araucaria]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Clearly, the conventional view that the physical universe originated in a big bang explosion represents a violation on a stupendous scale of both the first and second laws of thermodynamics. But this detail is often ignored on the grounds that the actual violation would have taken place in a very brief time interval, lasting less than 10 -43^ seconds. Paul LaViolette, Subquantum Kinetics, p.6

Yes, it has to do with things moving at FTL speeds in the very birth stage of the universe, which is a "violation" of physical laws. But is it?[/QUOTE]

Yes. The point was that a closed-system description doesn't hold water because we are dealing with an open system. I think this holds for just about every area of activity: we have a leaky bucket that is now leaking more out of the bottom than out of the top and will soon have to be discarded

[Cidersomerset]

Not so much this pic , but the one of the sunspot on the vid reminded me of
a Mandlebrot....







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We are told Comets are made up of ice, dust and space debris.This does
not seem to be the case ...



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Plasma spot representations on theses figures,Some really thought provoking stuff !!