MMS on Trial

[araucaria]

Posted by jaybee (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
If MMS is a drug, then they have to admit to putting it in everyone's water --- for decades.

In many many places, it is the standard application at water treatment facilities.

In that case, just tell people to add some lemon juice to a glass of water

That is a very interesting point you make there. Could it actually be that simple?


I just poured a glass of tap water and added some lime juice (I didn't have lemon juice)...left it for 3 - 4 minutes and then drank it. Trying to sniff out the tell tale pong of the activated mms. Couldn't smell much except the lime...but at the end I thought I had a slight whiff of it...not sure.

I have heard before that starting the day with a (warm) glass of water with a few drops of lemon juice in it was benificial to health. Maybe this is why.

Do they use the same kind of chlorine/chlorite in tap water as is in mms ?

A chemical is a chemical, if it's the same it's the same, but I personally don't know.

I don't know either whether the dilution process occurring in advance would interfere with the activation process, but it would be nice if it didn't.

[Tane Mahuta]

Awesome thread, thankyou nora!!

Thankyou mozart for your input!!

TM

[jaybee]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
If MMS is a drug, then they have to admit to putting it in everyone's water --- for decades.

In many many places, it is the standard application at water treatment facilities.

In that case, just tell people to add some lemon juice to a glass of water

That is a very interesting point you make there. Could it actually be that simple?


I just poured a glass of tap water and added some lime juice (I didn't have lemon juice)...left it for 3 - 4 minutes and then drank it. Trying to sniff out the tell tale pong of the activated mms. Couldn't smell much except the lime...but at the end I thought I had a slight whiff of it...not sure.

I have heard before that starting the day with a (warm) glass of water with a few drops of lemon juice in it was benificial to health. Maybe this is why.

Do they use the same kind of chlorine/chlorite in tap water as is in mms ?

A chemical is a chemical, if it's the same it's the same, but I personally don't know.

I don't know either whether the dilution process occurring in advance would interfere with the activation process, but it would be nice if it didn't.

Thanks for reply....I just looked at Pauls link earlier...don't have the time to take all the details in at the moment...ie. if they have done anything to interfere with the activation process

...but they did take the trouble to add something about mms at the bottom...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

Safety

On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration warned against the use of the product "Miracle Mineral Supplement" or "MMS", which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warning informed consumers that this industrial bleach can cause serious harm to health, including severe dehydration, nausea and diarrhea.[24] There have been no reported deaths from use of MMS; however the FDA has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration.[25]

don't know if putting this on the link is a clue that 'activation' IS possible in tap water with lemon juice/lime juice?

or not....


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[Guest]

There hasn't been one report of any deaths due to the use of MMS or resulting in any serious illness or harm to humans. This is a big sham brought on by the FDA.

By Adam Abrahams

‘FDA Protection’ At Work v. MMS




I’m going to start right here by saying it deeply saddens me to feel that the image above is an appropriate representation of events that are reported below, but that’s how I see it.
For almost two years I have followed, with minimal comment, the saga of Daniel Smith of Project Green Life, who the FDA sought to make an example to discourage merchants from selling and distributing MMS.
On June 11, 2011, while Daniel was on a road trip to a yoga camp with his daughter, FDA agents — with guns drawn and protective vests in place prepared for a shootout — raided Smith’s home. “Securing” the premises, they forced his wife to sit on the curb while they ransacked the property.
When they were done, the agents had seized everything they could to undermine not only PGL as an MMS distributor, but of Smith’s ability to earn a living whatsoever, confiscating computers, hard drives, business records, private member records, product, equipment, and every penny from every bank account.
They also raided the fulfillment and bottling companies that provided the MMS product under contract to PGL.
Mind you, he had not lost his right to earn a living. He still had the right to be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Additionally, the harm of his action needed to be self-evident. In spite of the FDA’s public statements to this effect, evidence of such harm has yet to be demonstrated, whereas the success stories remain on the rise.
Please note before I go on, that this is not to say that MMS is “a” cure, or “the” cure. The question here, is whether it is the harmful agent that the FDA claims, and whether the rights of private individuals, including Daniel Smith and you and me, can be kicked to the curb in such a callous manner by a government agency on the strength of unverified, specious, or outright false claims.




(This article shares many other FDA acts against distributors of nutritional or “unapproved” benign products.)

The FDA should be called to task for the RESULTS that the health care business is getting with the products that it has already approved, yet it has spent two years and who knows how many millions of taxpayer dollars to shoot down public perception about a single product, whose “dangers” have not been demonstrated by the facts.
Irrespective of what the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing does, or does not do to assist one of its precursors, Smith has put up a site by or through which individuals can voice their support:

http://iamnotananimal.org/

The site’s name, “I Am Not an Animal,” is from FDA drug laws that classify Man as “animals”. Don’t believe it? Here are two:

(f) 1 The term “food” means (1) articles used for food or drink for man or other animals, (2) chewing gum, and (3) articles used for components of any such article.
(g)(1) The term “drug” means (A) articles recognized in the official United States Pharmacopoeia, official Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States, or official National Formulary, or any supplement to any of them; and (B) articles intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals; and (C) articles (other than food) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals;

http://phaelosopher.com/

Love

Nora

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by bubblybogger (here)
For those that follow Jim Humble and MMS... there is a plea for help out there... and it needs action quick for those that understand what is at stake... Virtual family and friend of mine, though I just heard about it a day or so ago... any friend of Jim Humble is a brother of mine.

anyway. this was posted on Veritas Forum (Manticore) a couple days ago. I'm passing the torch... doing what I can do. It costs about $18 to send a couple of priority mail affidavits off... if you care to share your voice...

a life and a way of life in the balance....

A man’s life - and that of his friends and family - hangs in the balance. They need our immediate help. The FDA’s prosecutor has called for a federal grand jury to be convened in the Eastern District of Washington in less than ten days. We don’t have much time to make history.

Please take a stand to help save MMS and Daniel Smith from the FDA:
http://iamnotananimal.org/
...

click on the highlighted link... if so inclined. not much time I know.

I merged this thread (the one post to which I am responding) in with an existing thread on the same topic.

[Guest]

Update from Calz
The FDA is still attacking Daniel Smith and MMS, identifying it as common chlorine bleach, which it is not. MMS is mixture of Sodium Chlorite and citric acid which produces Chlorine Dioxide. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post631514

Chlorine Dioxide is a compound that has been used to treat municipal drinking water in the United States and Europe for over 50 years. It is recognised as a superior water disinfectant alternative to chlorine and has become increasingly popular as a water purification treatment. Chlorine is being phased out due to growing concerns over its carcinogenic by-products, principally trihalomethanes (THMs). Similarly other halogens such as fluorine, bromine and iodine, some of which have been used in water treatment situations by consumers, are recognised as having unhealthy by-products. Iodine in particular, has been recognised as affecting the thyroid gland. Unlike chlorine, chlorine dioxide does not create THMs.
In the U.S, the Safe Water Drinking Act and its subsequent amendments over the last 20 years have required dramatic improvements in the quality of municipal drinking water. These stringent new requirements have increased the use of chlorine dioxide in the U.S. while decreasing the use of chlorine as a water treatment chemical. Using chlorine dioxide provides a double benefit to communities because it is a more effective water purifier than chlorine and is free of chlorine's unhealthy by-products.
Municipal water systems use chlorine dioxide in its gaseous state which cannot be safely packaged or transported for consumer use. With the miracle mineral supplement, a recent breakthrough in technology, individuals now have access to chlorine dioxide in a stabilized form with full effectiveness. Many consumers will benefit from MMS, including those needing to purify water for outdoor or travel use and for disaster preparedness and emergency water use at home.


ClO2 is effective against the following water contaminants:

• Organic Contaminants - ClO2 completely eliminates and treats the following contaminants: Viruses, water bacteria, giardia, botulism cryptosporidium, e. coli and cholera.
• Carcinogenic Substances - Pollutants found in waste water, cyanides in wastewater, nitrites and sulfides, 3,4-benzopyrene, iron and manganese in water, tastes and odors produced by algae, the dyes produced by chlorophyll and plants, pesticides.

Treatment Chemical Advantages

• Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) does not produce THMs as chlorine does, and doesn't give rise to the formation of chloroform and bromochloromethane as chlorine does.
• Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) does not react with ammonia, nitrogenous compounds or precursors to form chloroform as chlorine does. http://www.mms-healthyliving.com/chlorine-dioxide.html
  
  

Here's a link to a post by Limor on the positive effects and results of treating her chronically ill mother in the last days of her life with MMS and the positive response from her doctors. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post631535





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Nora

[Referee]

There was a piece on our local news 4 people were arrested for this. I just now put it all together.

Here is the link

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=190154...&fDomain=10222

[Carmody]

The '10 days until' date, is a clear sign that they've created a situation of railroading..well ahead of time.

That they set up what they are going to do, at any given stage of this, well in advance.

That for every potential tactic, that they will have an answer and position well in hand.

This must be the base consideration when going forward with defense in this case.

It appears that the prosecution is very interested in making sure that their plans of railroading are brought to fruition, and quite possibly that this is to be used as a form of case law to be applied as a 'decision precedent' to all other similar situations, which they will swiftly use. This is my bet. Such dual or triple and more extended use of a situation... is generally the sign of the hidden hand. That manifold agenda and manifold openings come into being in a single move.

That the avenues required to slow this down to a workable pace, so the realities may be addressed, that those doors are either closed or are being forcibly held shut.

That is the area to concentrate efforts into. To slow it down so it can be handled properly.

When you see that a massive threat to freedom and future is brought to bear on the defendants.. that swift acquiescence is the prosecution's desire --with their hidden agenda.

I'm guessing that there will be a guarantee of minimal losses, if a desirable plea bargain is entered.

Swift decision, precedent is set, case law application is in place ---end all mms. Begin the process of putting law in place (which is probably already written), with severe penalties and subsequent demonization.

That is what I'm suspecting here. That this is an opening move into a whole chain of events.

[Frenchy]

and since prisons are the business of large corporations, this is just one more thing that is wrong with the system.


Daniel Smith Convicted on 5 out of 6 Counts

Daniel Smith was taken into custody Wednesday (May 27th) after his conviction on 5 out of 6 counts. I tell you this with a heavy heart. How could this happen? The only thing Daniel ever did was sell people a solution that would help them recover their health. The FDA was trying to send Daniel to prison for 36 years. But now, as far as we know, the Judge will not sentence Daniel for another 6 months while Daniel languishes in prison and no one knows how long the sentence will be.

For those of you who don’t know, the FDA has been trying to stop Daniel for almost a decade. They have taken him to court again and again. Daniel went to a foreign country for a time, but he chose to come back and fight the FDA as he felt that the world needed someone to counteract the evil things that the FDA continues to do.

Daniel has been fighting for all of us for all these years. My feeling is that Daniel’s lawyers betrayed him. Since the lawyers are really officers of the court and under the judges command, one’s lawyers are never really on the defendant’s side. The night before Daniel’s verdict, I was informed by someone who was there, that his lawyers didn’t even present a defense. Evidently Daniel’s lawyers said that since the prosecutors had not “proven” their case it was not their job to demonstrate that they showed no proof. So they opted out and did not even present a defense expecting the jury to see the truth without them saying anything. That is the greatest farce to humankind I have heard so far. This case means tremendous things to all of us, and to mankind, as it will have tremendous effect on the sales of MMS from now on, and Daniel’s lawyers didn’t even present the defense! Oh, they made a short closing statement, but the prosecution went on and on for several days and the defense opted out. That’s crazy!

At this time I do not know all of the 6 charges that were made against Daniel, I hope to have that information for you soon, but one of the charges was smuggling. His import company simply checked the wrong box at the top of the importation paper. It wasn’t even Daniel that that filled the paper out, but the FDA called it smuggling and there is a long prison sentence for smuggling. They couldn’t get him for doing anything wrong about selling MMS so they are charging him with a lot of ridiculous things.

Regarding juries, it seems the judge never tells the jury that they can not only decide if one is guilty or not guilty, but they can decide the law as well. That means they can decide if the law applies in each case or not. That is written into the constitution. I am 82 years old and have observed numerous cases during my lifetime and I have personally never seen a case yet that I thought the judge properly instructed the jury. America has more people in prison than most of the rest of the world, and since prisons are the business of large corporations, this is just one more thing that is wrong with the system.

I suppose the FDA will continue to try to stop MMS but now with a much greater push, as they will feel that they can use this conviction to throw fear into all of us who would try to help our fellow men and humanity.

I will have more to say about Daniel after I find out more details from the court. I am so sorry that Daniel has tried to help us and is being punished for it, but there are still things that we can do. The FDA has not seen the last of us and they are now playing with fire as there are many who want to see the FDA completely disbanded.

Archbishop Jim Humble
Background: http://StandByDaniel.com