The Sacred Circle

[Flash]

Of course I am in Fred.

For Donk, an affirmation I sometimes use when I feel powerless of yurkee:

I am the Divine, I am therefore pure love and perfectly lovable.

Love to you all,

Flash

[GarethBKK]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Who knows what might make someone else's light bulb go on.

Indeed. Can't remember where I read it but I love the light bulb metaphor. Sometimes I start thinking I am the bulb and forget I am the light that shines in it and beyond it. The bulb simply carries me. Connecting to the Sacred Circle helps remind me.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by 4evrneo (here)
Cool ! Then I add my granddaughter Brylee....she is a ball of love and smiles

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You'd have to be a stone-cold curmudgeon not to grin when you see this beautiful joyous face!

Thanks for bringing Brylee in, Annette!

Dennis

[Daughter of Time]

I have finally opened this thread.

I haven't read every post and won't be able to right now. But I feel good just being here.

It's amazing how powerful intentions are. I feel protected in this sacredness.

Thank you for letting me into this circle.

Love and blessings!

Daughter of Time

[Anchor]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
In principle the idea of a group intent to operate together at the highest and best we can be, with the added bonus of some mutual support, seemed to me like a good idea. That has remained my intent. Circle or no circle.
I think as soon as any attempt is made to give something like this direction and "do" this or that, you are playing with fire.
So, basically I think I made a mistake here and I am sorry.
I release myself, and I am released.
Take care, and do as thou wilt.

Just curious where you got the "do this or that from" is all...

I'll try and explain my motivation, but this is just me doing what I want to do. No-one really need be bothered.

As I see it the principle is that the circle is formed of a group in which each offers the other mutual support. This has to be based on consent. The will of the group has the consent of all its members - it is safest and easiest to understand when the goal is clear and singular.

My mistake was that I did not read the opening post carefully enough. When page 8 started I started thinking what has this got to do with tuning-up and keeping the forum clear? Then I re-read your OP and noted that you say the "idea was to create a standing structure that could be tapped into at will" - I did not appreciate that. I figure the first six pages or so of this thread where exactly right for what was needed at the time and matched my intent, it worked well.

So now I start to realize that people were going to "use" the circle to do "this or that" (who knows what, some may say what they wanted, others may not). I take all this rather seriously and am annoyed at myself for my carelessness. Whatever, its done. I want to move on and not be "retained" or "chorded", simply because I was careless with reading what I was giving my consent to. So I released myself from the circle. Simple. No drama. Live and learn. Sorry for the disruption I may cause. This is the last post from me on this thread.

Be well.

[lookbeyond]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
In principle the idea of a group intent to operate together at the highest and best we can be, with the added bonus of some mutual support, seemed to me like a good idea. That has remained my intent. Circle or no circle.
I think as soon as any attempt is made to give something like this direction and "do" this or that, you are playing with fire.
So, basically I think I made a mistake here and I am sorry.
I release myself, and I am released.
Take care, and do as thou wilt.

Just curious where you got the "do this or that from" is all...

I'll try and explain my motivation, but this is just me doing what I want to do. No-one really need be bothered.

As I see it the principle is that the circle is formed of a group in which each offers the other mutual support. This has to be based on consent. The will of the group has the consent of all its members - it is safest and easiest to understand when the goal is clear and singular.

My mistake was that I did not read the opening post carefully enough. When page 8 started I started thinking what has this got to do with tuning-up and keeping the forum clear? Then I re-read your OP and noted that you say the "idea was to create a standing structure that could be tapped into at will" - I did not appreciate that. I figure the first six pages or so of this thread where exactly right for what was needed at the time and matched my intent, it worked well.

So now I start to realize that people were going to "use" the circle to do "this or that" (who knows what, some may say what they wanted, others may not). I take all this rather seriously and am annoyed at myself for my carelessness. Whatever, its done. I want to move on and not be "retained" or "chorded", simply because I was careless with reading what I was giving my consent to. So I released myself from the circle. Simple. No drama. Live and learn. Sorry for the disruption I may cause. This is the last post from me on this thread.

Be well.

Geez i dont want to be "corded" either i guess i assumed we were all here with the highest intent for the best possible outcome for all- any thoughts anyone else?

Thanks lookbeyond

[Hazel]

A wonderful thing to visualise, feel into, contribute to and to expand collaboratively with intent.
I am this, I am that and all that is, was and ever will be.. with all good energy of intent..

So important and liberating to be here with those of like awareness..
Heart felt homage to all

H

[markpierre]

Okay Fred. I took my time and thought about it. I just thought it was a bit corny at first.
If you try to make me wear a badge with love-hearts on it though, I'm out.

[Finefeather]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
In principle the idea of a group intent to operate together at the highest and best we can be, with the added bonus of some mutual support, seemed to me like a good idea. That has remained my intent. Circle or no circle.
I think as soon as any attempt is made to give something like this direction and "do" this or that, you are playing with fire.
So, basically I think I made a mistake here and I am sorry.
I release myself, and I am released.
Take care, and do as thou wilt.

Just curious where you got the "do this or that from" is all...

I'll try and explain my motivation, but this is just me doing what I want to do. No-one really need be bothered.

As I see it the principle is that the circle is formed of a group in which each offers the other mutual support. This has to be based on consent. The will of the group has the consent of all its members - it is safest and easiest to understand when the goal is clear and singular.

My mistake was that I did not read the opening post carefully enough. When page 8 started I started thinking what has this got to do with tuning-up and keeping the forum clear? Then I re-read your OP and noted that you say the "idea was to create a standing structure that could be tapped into at will" - I did not appreciate that. I figure the first six pages or so of this thread where exactly right for what was needed at the time and matched my intent, it worked well.

So now I start to realize that people were going to "use" the circle to do "this or that" (who knows what, some may say what they wanted, others may not). I take all this rather seriously and am annoyed at myself for my carelessness. Whatever, its done. I want to move on and not be "retained" or "chorded", simply because I was careless with reading what I was giving my consent to. So I released myself from the circle. Simple. No drama. Live and learn. Sorry for the disruption I may cause. This is the last post from me on this thread.

Be well.

Geez i dont want to be "corded" either i guess i assumed we were all here with the highest intent for the best possible outcome for all- any thoughts anyone else?

Thanks lookbeyond

Hi All
If I may give you my opinion on this, for your consideration:

There are many different types of groups...

Yes Anchor you are indeed right about what you say. A circle has the same effect as a group and the names in this instance are synonymous. A group, in general, needs an intention...and the members become the collective force or potential energy of the intention. Without a meaningful intention, and most importantly, without strong direction and leadership, a group is destined to fail. A group is only as strong as the aggregate of the collective...and then all must abide or support the agreed intention of the group. This theoretically means that those in the group with higher force are reduced in power to the level of the collective and those with lower force are artificially lifted to a perceived higher level. This is like when you have a team in sport where there is a weak member who pulls the performance potential of the team down because of his/her weakness. The weak one gets the impression of greater power whilst the stronger are left in a state of frustration because they are prevented from achieving their potential because of the effect of the weak.

This, in itself, need not be the problem, because the stronger or more advanced souls should know this and their decision...to be part of a group...would be based on their intention to uplift the weak...at the time of their deciding to join...and this would be their personal intention...irrespective of the intention of the group they are joining.

We can participate in numerous groups at the same time, a little here, a little there...giving support where our hearts reach out.

Now here is the important thing to understand: When we join a group, of the nature of this circle...and I could be entirely wrong what Fred's idea is...we are not joining a lesson or a class where we expect to be taught some subject...and need to fear that a weaker student may keep the class down. We are also not joining a group with the intention of doing battle with some great evil cosmic force. We are joining to give support to someone in need of guidance or just some love. When this takes place the equation is somewhat different than I previously wrote about. This becomes like a fund where each pools their little bit which means it all adds up to a greater amount of support for the intention. It is like lifting a heavy load...each hand adds more force...provided we are all pushing in the same direction. We should clearly understand that in this kind of group, will be more, or less evolved souls and these resources can be used in strategy and the planning of any intention if we need it, but this is not the prime reason for advanced participation, in this case.

This post here by Anchor provides the same idea

Posted by Anchor (here)
Close ranks and calmly be.

You of the darkness who do not accept light, no, you may not pass among us.

This post seems to suggest that we should close the ranks to those who will push in the opposite direction to which the group intention is, or intends striving towards.

There is another type of group where you gather the most powerful specialists to undertake a task or intention which less powerful souls would not be able to contribute to...but I do not think this applies to this group because we are still all too spiritually immature...no matter how highly evolved you may believe you are.
We are still groping in the dark and I am not convinced that Avalon is a great source of spiritual power...in the true sense of the phrase, despite the perception which many have of their great wisdom. This may anger some and cause some, some emotional reaction...but let me just say that when the time comes in your life to step on the true path you will know the difference...”when the student is ready the Master will appear” ...is not just a fancy phrase which someone thought up.

All we can do now is to stay focused on cleansing and mastering our own lives, and together we can help and assist those in need by becoming part of small groups like this one where we can demonstrate and learn to serve one another with love and begin to realise the truth of the matter...which lies waiting for you to unveil when you are ready.

I will support this circle/group in any form as long as the intention is always to uplift the human spirit and reject the forces of materialism.

Love to all.
Ray

[Samsara]

There are no strings attached, for me anyway. So it is with this freedom of movement that I say:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY FINEFEATHER!

[Maunagarjana]

Fred Steeves....what have you done, man?? You've lured us into this "sacred" trap. And for what??? We've stepped into your dark, vicious circle, all of us now completely vulnerable to anyone with dark intentions who has done the same. You've just created this parasitic node, the price of admission: our precious vital energies, now on tap! And look how easily everyone acquiesced. Look how effortlessly we were lured by the idea of a shared resource of vitality and inspiration. Fred wouldn't lead us astray....no, not Fred! So, what diabolical force inspired this idea of yours?? Or was this your intention all along??

[Conchis]

You can not give away that which you do not own. My intent when joining this circle was pure and can not be subverted by anyone to a use other than my intent.

[Fred Steeves]

O.K., so I reckon this needs to be cleared up...The intent of The circle was already set before it was even posted, and this is it boiled down to bare essence right here in the original post. "Setting a loving, powerful intent".

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
I invite whoever is interested to join with me and also strengthen it, by doing nothing more than setting a powerful, loving intent.

That's it, nothing more, and it was stated very 'intent'ionally. Folks, I know full well that this can be abused, as it is done all the time. My eyes are wide open on that front. Intent is much like fire, it can burn, or it can warm. The Circle cannot be used for ANY other purpose than stated above. If someone thinks they are going to harness "it" for the sake of say, boinking their neighbor's wife, or having misfortune come to their asshole boss, well, it ain't gonna happen. Straight up.


Below in the OP, it was to be also understood that the intent of The Circle was to not be constrained within the limited bounds of our imaginations. But I will state clearly as I can, Only as to the Best and Highest possible outcome for All concerned. Whatever that may be.

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
What overall effect will this have? Dunno, but I hate to limit it's potential by putting a label or a goal on it, potential being unlimited by it's very nature. Best left to the four winds so to speak.

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
It can be added to, or tapped in to, at will.

Yes, and I stand by that. This is nothing more than how a family functions, atleast ideally. And I consider The Circle family. If I need their help, I need only ask. If they need my help, they need only ask. All for one, and one for all.

[markpierre]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
Fred Steeves....what have you done, man?? You've lured us into this "sacred" trap. And for what??? We've stepped into your dark, vicious circle, all of us now completely vulnerable to anyone with dark intentions who has done the same. You've just created this parasitic node, the price of admission: our precious vital energies, now on tap! And look how easily everyone acquiesced. Look how effortlessly we were lured by the idea of a shared resource of vitality and inspiration. Fred wouldn't lead us astray....no, not Fred! So, what diabolical force inspired this idea of yours?? Or was this your intention all along??

It's fun, and we love Fred. At least that's why I joined.

But he may actually be Satan's minion. I see.

[sdv]

I imagine this as a space where I can hold a hand on either side of me in this circle of people and feel grounded, at peace and content. No rules or beliefs or rituals, other than the holding of hands and feeling grounded, at peace and content (with smile on my face).

Whatever power may be in this circle and the simple act of standing holding hands (sitting is also cool and feet touching is also cool!), it feels good and right.

[Orph]

When I first read Fred's OP, in my imagination I saw a group of souls forming a group. The loving energy was coming together and growing stronger and brighter. It was, as Fred says, just loving intent being itself. Nothing more. At that time, I was in need of some inner healing and support. So I imagined myself slowly floating towards this loving energy. (at my own pace). I was able to feel the energy to the extent that it was needed for me. The group didn't have an "agenda" to save my soul or anything. It wasn't about changing anything. The group was simply there to be loving intent. No judgements, no anything. Just BE loving intent. I'm not the smartest person, nor do I know anything of the astral realms, or chords, or energy sucking zombies. But if souls come together with nothing but pure love, without conditions or judgements, I don't see how this can possibly be bad, or be misused. ....... ??

[zebowho]

I have to agree with Anchors position, not just for him but as something we all Must, absolutely Must understand. With a group focused intent, we are holding a candle, each and collectively. The difference is that candle can burn at say a million degrees when collectively combined. This is absolutely serious stuff. The energies we talk about one can experience oneself but when put together either concentrate or polarize to the nth degree.

I've participated with Anchor in some of these here and the results can be seen by all. The biggest event I've been involved in, and one that showed me the Real power in this (also verified group prayer for me personally ) was when Art Bell did a 2min on-air experiment back in '98-'99 I believe (may have been earlier) but the idea was to focus rain/water for a city in Texas to alleviate a drought. The following day they had major flooding, even the meteorologists couldn't figure out where it all came from as nothing remotely close was in any forecast, and I read their news reports. In fact Art himself realized the shear power and vowed to never do that again because the "good intent" could have harmed someone or worse.

I also haven't fully read the Law of One books and do not bring any religious dogma to this but I do understand spirituality, good and bad, right and wrong, light and dark, righteousness and evil. There are powers/energies out there that are so easy to invite in that one has to be absolute in their own diligence when entertaining this idea. I personally will not enter any of these exercises unless I know that my own energies are as pure and righteous as I can tune them. This isn't about wearing a badge covered in hearts I agree, but there are definitely strings attached and we cannot take that lightly. As Anchor said, "we're playing with fire" and if we're not careful, we'll be standing in it before we know it. Those same strings that bind each individual energy and intent here, creating this circle can also touch strings that are connected to "things" not good. Innocents is good but not in this case.

I like the idea that is this Sacred Circle and the potential here but I do not consent to experiment.

-z

[sdv]

Posted by Orph (here)
When I first read Fred's OP, in my imagination I saw a group of souls forming a group. The loving energy was coming together and growing stronger and brighter. It was, as Fred says, just loving intent being itself. Nothing more. At that time, I was in need of some inner healing and support. So I imagined myself slowly floating towards this loving energy. (at my own pace). I was able to feel the energy to the extent that it was needed for me. The group didn't have an "agenda" to save my soul or anything. It wasn't about changing anything. The group was simply there to be loving intent. No judgements, no anything. Just BE loving intent. I'm not the smartest person, nor do I know anything of the astral realms, or chords, or energy sucking zombies. But if souls come together with nothing but pure love, without conditions or judgements, I don't see how this can possibly be bad, or be misused. ....... ??

That is how I 'feel' this sacred circle. No agenda or rules or rituals or conditions or beliefs ... just step into the circle any time that you want to or need to and feel warmth and acceptance and just be in the moment of being there. That's why it is a sacred circle!

PS I don't believe that Fred is experimenting. I think he is just reaching out in unconditional love.

[Daughter of Time]

When I think of "sacred circle" I think of sanctuary - a place of grace, blessedness, righteousness, purity...

Of course there are sacred circles whose intent is evil, but again, it's all in the intent!

Fred's message about creating a place of loving intent is very clear. I am surprised that so much more has been read into this. Perhaps I'm naive. Perhaps I take things at face value when there's more to them. But in all honesty, I don't believe Fred's intent is to experiment. I fully believe his intent is literal, as he stated, a place of powerful, loving intent!

If there is loving intent, then there are no strings attached other than "do not enter unless your intent is loving"

[Finefeather]

Posted by sdv (here)

Posted by Orph (here)
When I first read Fred's OP, in my imagination I saw a group of souls forming a group. The loving energy was coming together and growing stronger and brighter. It was, as Fred says, just loving intent being itself. Nothing more. At that time, I was in need of some inner healing and support. So I imagined myself slowly floating towards this loving energy. (at my own pace). I was able to feel the energy to the extent that it was needed for me. The group didn't have an "agenda" to save my soul or anything. It wasn't about changing anything. The group was simply there to be loving intent. No judgements, no anything. Just BE loving intent. I'm not the smartest person, nor do I know anything of the astral realms, or chords, or energy sucking zombies. But if souls come together with nothing but pure love, without conditions or judgements, I don't see how this can possibly be bad, or be misused. ....... ??

That is how I 'feel' this sacred circle. No agenda or rules or rituals or conditions or beliefs ... just step into the circle any time that you want to or need to and feel warmth and acceptance and just be in the moment of being there. That's why it is a sacred circle!

PS I don't believe that Fred is experimenting. I think he is just reaching out in unconditional love.

Hi sdv
Yes I agree with what you are saying here...no agenda...except for your own, that is.

The occult (science of energies and forces) nature of this, works something like this...
In occult terms this process is know as the science of triangles, which tells us that everything that exists or is created or is planned requires 3 aspects for completion and thus manifestation...irrespective of the nature ie good or bad thing.
1. Primordial matter in some dimensional state depending on the level in which the planned creation will exist.(Physical, Emotional or Mental)
2. The thinker or creator, which would be the one who seeks to create the eg. love, in this case any individual or a group.
3. The thought or created entity which is the result of the thinker's desire...and this would determine the quality and nature of the created thought form...so if you are thinking good thoughts or bad thoughts is up to you and your intention.

So in actual fact this Sacred Circle is not creating anything for you or anyone...you are doing the creation of the love or comfort or whatever it is you are after, yourself.
You are using the circle ONLY as a focus/channel because you see, or have the impression that, the members are of a loving nature...in fact, and in reality, you have no idea whatsoever how much love each is contributing, and, if in fact they are actually contributing love to the circle...they could be contributing negative energy and you would have no idea at all of this.
So in reality you or I or anyone in this Sacred Circle is only using this as a symbol of what ever it is we need to make us feel all happy and content and safe and loved...and the collective is really of no real significance, in this case. It is only when, as zebowho pointed out, the collective makes a combined effort in the form of a scheduled meditation or mantra...when, for example someone asks the members to pray for them...that it has any effect on an individual. Under these conditions it can be dangerous and I would heed the warnings of Anchor and zebowho. What they are saying is indeed fact and I have always said to people..."do not pray for me"...this is a vast subject...and not all people see life the same as you might want your life to be...all we see in this forum usually is avatars...do we really know the person behind it?

But to get it in perspective I personally do not see any harm in the way this circle is structured, it is only really as powerful as your own will to create your own self healing...you would do just as well if you used your rabbits foot...but we are humans here and we feel better around other like minded humans...and as I said in my previous post we should seek only for the upliftment of the human spirit...not for someones desire to get rich or get rid of the next door neighbor's dog

Take care
Ray