Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by johnf (here)
So can we get some background info on Malanga?

There are references to Malanga and his work almost throughout the entirety of this thread. I know it's an extremely long thread to go through and would require quite an investment of time to do so, but at the moment I don't have the time to go through the thread in order to inform you of the most relevant posts in regards to Malanga.

In a nutshell, Malanga hypnotically regressed over 2,000 abductees in the past 40 years of this life. He's around 80 now, and still working at trying to solve the problem. Hopefully someone will have the time to steer you in the right direction as I'm very tired and will now have to log out.

[Hervé]

Posted by johnf (here)
So can we get some background info on Malanga?

Hi johnf,

For infos on Dr. Malanga, start here: Post #1

[johnf]

Well, ok I must admit that info just might be enough to get me to do that.

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by johnf (here)
So can we get some background info on Malanga?

Hi johnf,

For infos on Dr. Malanga, start here: Post #1

Thank you Amzer Zo,

I forgot Malanga is mentioned in the opening post!

Well, it's been a while since I've read the first page.

[Shin'Ar]

I hope that I do not come across as someone just looking for debate, and therefore wanting to criticize just for the opportunity, but I have a serious problem with Malanga in his effort to suggest that there is not a dual nature to creation.

But, that would be a discussion which would railroad this thread and so I would refrain from entering into that debate here, although in a thread of this length, and given the discussion already had with JustOneMan, I am certain a derailing has been done often.

But to touch briefly on my concern, I would just like to state that in any channeling circumstance, misinterpretation can be rampant, and this is only exaggerated by the need for the third component of an operator to guide the field being used as the focal point.

In my opinion anytime any effort is made with a goal to accomplish, that hope becomes the driving factor in the acquisition of results as well. Especially since it is already known that a person under hypnosis is extremely vulnerable to exterior suggestion and manipulation.

So I ask, how is the manipulation of the person under hypnosis, to bring about the results that the guide/operator wants to acquire, any different than any other manipulation of that field? And furthermore, in both cases, is it the field that is being abducted and manipulated, or the physical body/brain?

[Shin'Ar]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Now I have to ask the tough question - do we accept the All as it has manifested up till now? Or, if it is within our power, would it be right to shift the paradigm such that this lovely "All" manifests in such a way that no one has to wait lifetimes to finally get a clue, that no one has to suffer being the victim in a Satanic Ritual Sacrificial event? That is one of the key questions posed by this thread.

Does one who has chosen to reincarnate into such struggle really have to ask this question? If one knows that this place of struggle serves the greater purpose of fields experiencing catalyst for the benefit of learning and developing through those experiences, then there is really no need to question the necessity of the variables, nor see them as a target to be eradicated.

Yes, it seems on the surface that it is unjust for one to suffer, but in the grand picture, it is that suffering which develops the fire within and bears it into higher states of being. So the question should not be as much, 'why do people have to suffer if the cause of the suffering can be eliminated', but rather, 'how exactly is this suffering developing my field of consciousness and how can I more efficiently manage that development?'

This determination and desire to be of assistance is one reason why many fields return to this experience, and so it is not surprising that the field when returning to physical form becomes obsessed with that goal. But, as with all fields reincarnated into human experience, becoming aware of their field and its past efforts and memories, is met with the ordeal of transcending the physical reliance on that physical brain. Their first struggle is always with the physical barrier to realizing their spiritual goal. And because of that sideroad to their mission, they must also manage to discern the actual components of their task, the many facets of its realization, and the corrupted aspects of it caused by the infi9ltrations of the many perversions and corruptions one will gather in this temporary form with regard to religious and philosophical teachings and influences.

In other words, could those returning to assist, also find themselves in need of assistance with regard to traversing the very influenced background of the human experience, before they can even begin to assist anyone else?

Within that dynamic of the returning assistant naturally needing guidance and self awareness as much as those they came to assist, one always has to somehow breach that gap between that which the field has already acquired in past incarnations which needs to be somehow triggered, and that which will be acquired in the present incarnation which will be added to that which is already accumulated; accumulated as information which must always require further discerning and examination.

And it is in this context that I pose the questions, "Is there any obligation to run into the plains to save the ill fated antelope as it being devoured alive by the lions?." And, "Is the life of the child more valuable than the life of the adult, or the innocent more so than the guilty?"

Are we just here to save a specific type of affliction, or are we here to end all suffering, and if we end all suffering, than what is left for the catalysts of the lessons that are offered here for the development of the field of consciousness?

Yes, it seems wrong that so many are manipulated and misdirected. That so many must suffer at all in any way. It seems wrong that so few are able to benefit from their deceptions and manipulations at the expense of the many. And it also seems wrong that an 'innocent deer must be victim to the predator as it goes about its innocent way of feeding itself on the grass of the many fields'.

But the true lesson here is not in designating right and wrong, innocent or guilt, predation and victimization, rather it is the discerning that what 'seems right and wrong' is actually a matter of individual perception, pre-disciplines, and participation.

The suffering here in this human experience may be exaggerated by elite influence, and may even be somewhat lessened by other influences which defy it, but the reasons for this catalyst existing in the first place, has to do with Divine Design and established systems far beyond anything that can be interfered upon by the mere participants.

The goal of ending all catalyst established by The Source of such Design would be like trying to end the risk of all cosmic bodies ever colliding with another, or ending the volcanic activity which constantly looms beneath us all waiting to be unleashed at any second.

Hospitaller mentality is a wonderful path for those of a healing stature, and it has its value for its healing aspects. But there must first be the understanding of what 'needs' to be healed before the doctor can care for the wound. Caring for the foot will not relieve the infection of the wound on the heart. And saving the deer from the lion, the sleeper from the bedbugs, or the innocent bystander from the extraterrestrial abductor, is simply massaging one point on the whole body, while the rest is left misunderstood and misrepresented in the whole aspect of the suffering.

Posted by justoneman (here)
The deception on earth is unacceptable. The lies we accept to be told to our children is unacceptable. The hoarding of truth within the "elite" is (to me) unacceptable. And this makes me ask, what is the "elite" anyways? I would say I am an elite because all this bull crap no longer effects me. What higher ground could one rise to? Just because I own 4 suitcases, a laundry basket and a box which hold all my worldly possessions does not mean I am not elite. Elite is when you can rise above all the bull crap (to me).

The bullcrap is what I attempted to reveal above.

It is my understanding, and my meaning when I use the term, that 'elite' refers both to a hybrid class of genetically enhanced human/ET bloodline, which is constantly sought after by the elite establishment which has managed to rule over the planet in an unseen manner. Most humans are the results of genetic manipulation and therefore hybrids in various regard. But there are also those who have evolved fields of consciousness which enable them to choose to work as the elite establishment or to defy it. The aspect of human character which establishes that desire one way or the other is self satisfaction.

So the real question is, do you consider yourself elite because you are 'satisfying your innate desire' to be a salvation to all suffering, in a world designed fro and dependent on such suffering as the catalyst for the learning which results from it?

The elite rise above the bullcrap because of their awareness that such is the common experience of the human and the natural state of being on this planet. Those who would defy that elite influence must also rise above the bullcrap and become aware that defying the elite is not a matter of trying to remove their natural tools of trade, but rather a matter of being aware that the tools which they employ are natural aspects of human experience and Divine Design. And when such awareness is realized, defiance becomes simply a matter of awareness and tolerance, rather than the misguided need to try to disarm them or eradicate them.

For example, when faced with the struggle to deny the mosquito its predation, is it more evolved to attempt to pull off the wings of every mosquito ever born into this world, or is it wiser to understand the interactions and somehow coexist on a level where they have less opportunity to feed on you at all? Do we just run around pulling out their stingers, or do we learn what it means to be a field of consciousness exposed to catalyst for the purpose of evolving, and simply go about using them as the catalyst that they are?

In my opinion, it is thinking like this that will further add to the state of being of The All in gradients of positive vibrations, rather than the thinking that it is only be destroying and eliminating catalyst whereby this world will finally realize harmony.

It is not harmony with this experience alone that makes a field of consciousness evolve, but rather harmony with the state of being which encompasses The All in entirety.

And this is the difference between those who would become activists of only one front, and those who would defy suffering by realizing its benefits in the whole theatre, whereby those of the more including mindset, will add their individual understanding and awareness to The All, in the understanding that if all fields could do the same, that All would certainly take on a new visage.

Which All is the most beneficial visage of consequence? The one where few components go about attempting to defy Divine Design, in essence beating their heads on a brick wall, or, those who manage to do tolerate the catalyst of natural Design, and learn to defy it naturally.

[donk]

Great insights from Jay Weidner, he really explains at one point why someone would want to do what Houman was doing posting the horrific images, as well as how to deal with psychopaths:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GgRSVh8UBQg

Sandy Hook is touched on, his relationship to "knowledge" and alchemy, Kubrick (as usual always an interviewers favorite subject)...a really good one for someone who may not have heard Jay before...though the interviewer may not be your style (I find him a little too much at times)...

[Daughter of Time]

TRIAD DYNAMIC COLOR TEST FLASH

by Corrado Malanga

December 31, 2012


What is Integrated Consciousness

By integrated consciousness we mean the part of the primordial consciousness which created the virtual universe and which is integrated in virtuality, having awareness of space, time and energy. It is the sum of its three components, with virtual characteristics. It knows the meaning of space, time and energy. It speaks in neutrality, no male nor female. It dominates space, time and energy and it can potentially express itself in paranormal ways, using its container in order to experience.

Since integrated consciousness needs to have experiences, then it does not have awareness of Everything, because if it did, it would have no need to integrate itself in the virtual universe which it created.

This new Triad technique renders integrated man with no divisions between its components. It takes one back to the ORIGINAL condition, but there is no way to predict when the original condition will actually occur as it has not reached that level yet.

Once the Triad experience has been effectuated, the descriptive map of the territory of each person changes and the subject will realize the true problems and issues of the virtuality which he has decided to affront, often; in other words, all the bewilderments which, in the extreme, could hypothetically flow in a decision by integrated consciousness to go back in time. Integrated consciousness needs to experience and it could choose to go back in time, but this has extremely rarely been chosen. This does not mean that the technique fails in accomplishing going back in time, quite the contrary, it demonstrates that in this universe, arbitrary experiences are free and absolute.

In the cases we experimented with, in one year's time, none of the fully integrated conscious beings allowed themselves to be re-abducted. Attempts were made on some containers, but were not realized.

From a quantum view, the three vectors of space, time and energy express themselves in creating a virtual reality, while the three vectors of consciousness, as we described in Genesi III, represent the only way in which to indirectly measure consciousness itself and they are directly super-imposed on one another while becoming one single vector of consciousness.

The three vectors of consciousness being soul, mind and spirit are non commutable and are placed at 90 degrees from one another and are not superimposable in the white sphere. The transparent sphere, once it comes a single point, as we will soon see, produce the final superimposition of the three vectors of consciousness, completely destroying the schizoid separation of spirit, soul and mind which existed in an imperfect being, vulnerable, because of lack of internal coherence.

The most evident characteristics of integrated consciousness, as revealed in hypnosis, are the following:

We speak of the subject as he (this of course, means he or she)

- The subject has constructed the universe but doesn't know why he has constructed it the way it is

- The subject sustains that the being exists because it manifests itself in doing

- The subject sustains that duality does not exist, and if it did exist it is because in doing, to be everything, one must do everything

- The subject sees and perceives the universe in a completely virtual way, like a mocked up universe, without any apparent solidity

- Integrated consciousness sees the universe in a real sense as well - real and/or virtual together - at the same time.

Integrated consciousness learns to be an observer of itself from infinite points which look at the centre of itself and from that centre, it looks towards infinite points.

In the realization that integrated consciousness can travel in virtuality, proceeding to have visions in any space and time, it slowly begins to experience many aspects of paranormal nature which become more and more evident in the day to day life.

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The sixth instalment will follow as time permits.

[Chester]

I am carefully (over and over) reading DoT's translation, but this...

The separation between mind, spirit and soul was created by the constructors of duality. Man's consciousness, that is, Creation, cannot be manipulated by anyone if integrated. This manipulation is possible only if consciousness has been categorized and separated. We discovered that soul, mind and spirit exist only in our perception of duality and not in the origins of consciousness. Consciousness contains all colours because the combination of soul, mind and spirit contain all the colours. Every colour represents a part of consciousness. The three colours of consciousness no longer exist once they are re-united, no longer divided, and acquire full awareness and realization that they had been divided.

...is precisely the point I believe Amzer Zo has been trying to make.

[Hervé]

Thanks justone,

Precisely:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

The only saving grace we have is that when directly addressing "spirit" -- that's YOU -- and unraveling the traumas, incidents and emotions at the spirit level, the other two components immediately follow suit!

That's what Steve Richards as well as Dianeticists discovered through experiences in dealing with such matters: "Spirit/YOU" has got to do it!

[...]

[lookbeyond]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks justone,

Precisely:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

The only saving grace we have is that when directly addressing "spirit" -- that's YOU -- and unraveling the traumas, incidents and emotions at the spirit level, the other two components immediately follow suit!

That's what Steve Richards as well as Dianeticists discovered through experiences in dealing with such matters: "Spirit/YOU" has got to do it!



[...]

Forgive me for sounding dumb but is accessing spirit also thru the subconscious eg practising ho,opoponopono?-thx lb

[Hervé]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks justone,

Precisely:

Forgive me for sounding dumb but is accessing spirit also thru the subconscious eg practising ho,opoponopono?-thx lb

From what I understood of Ho'oponopono, it is best practiced when operating from the "Zero Point" where there are "Zero Limits" and which is, to my understanding, where "Spirit"/YOU "resides" whether one calls it "higher self" or whatever.

This "higher self," BTW, is on the same order of misdirection and artificial separation as "Save Our Souls" is: giving preponderance to something one hasn't got a clue of what it is nor what it looks or feels like and hence comes under a "mystery" or "Great Secret" chapter... when all along it is nothing more nor less than YOU.

How's that for a con?

[Chester]

Posted by johnf (here)
Well, ok I must admit that info just might be enough to get me to do that.

You would not be wasting your time to go through this thread, John. This forum and this thread literally and truly saved my life... No! - far more than that - this thread gave me life. I live an amazing (free) life now. Each day is mind blowingly wonderful. And there's far more work to be done too. Not until all living souls who seek freedom are shown that they can have it will I sleep soundly.

[johnf]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by johnf (here)
Well, ok I must admit that info just might be enough to get me to do that.

You would not be wasting your time to go through this thread, John. This forum and this thread literally and truly saved my life... no - far more than that - this thread gave me life. I live an amazing (free) life now. Each day is mind blowingly wonderful. And there's far more work to be done too. Not until all living souls who seek freedom are shown that they can have it will I sleep soundly.

Thanks Justone, I have gone through the first page and a half so far. And am keeping current on this end. Been hearing and running into this stuff for a good 20 years with no real accessable solution so the therapy part of the discussion has my interest for sure. I mentally went through a questionaire on I think a Malanga site, and only answered yes to one question, the depression one, but I am real sure I have never been physically taken. Hooks into me from the dream state, obe type things, drug incidents etc. I would like to find an accessable way to clarify and deal with that.

[Chester]

Posted by Shin'Ar (here)
I hope that I do not come across as someone just looking for debate, and therefore wanting to criticize just for the opportunity, but I have a serious problem with Malanga in his effort to suggest that there is not a dual nature to creation.

But, that would be a discussion which would railroad this thread and so I would refrain from entering into that debate here, although in a thread of this length, and given the discussion already had with JustOneMan, I am certain a derailing has been done often.

But to touch briefly on my concern, I would just like to state that in any channeling circumstance, misinterpretation can be rampant, and this is only exaggerated by the need for the third component of an operator to guide the field being used as the focal point.

In my opinion anytime any effort is made with a goal to accomplish, that hope becomes the driving factor in the acquisition of results as well. Especially since it is already known that a person under hypnosis is extremely vulnerable to exterior suggestion and manipulation.

So I ask, how is the manipulation of the person under hypnosis, to bring about the results that the guide/operator wants to acquire, any different than any other manipulation of that field? And furthermore, in both cases, is it the field that is being abducted and manipulated, or the physical body/brain?

I was totally unaware of all the material found in this subject on this forum and in this thread until last spring (2012). I have, since I was 6 years old, been subject to the strangest phenomena. You have already been presented with some of the surface factual summary. During the two years prior to my "graduation day" about 1 year ago, I took meticulous notes of my "inner journey" and communication with the "Horus-Ra" being which has the Lux behind it. In the process I also discovered abilities a human being possesses which, for some reason, we (or at least those who are in charge) hide from the masses of humanity.

My own personal investigations, which almost cost me my life, matches up in far too many ways for it to be coincidental, but you will just have to take my word for it, Shin'Ar. In fact, I am at the point it doesn't matter if anyone else believes any of this or not. I know what is true (and has been true) in my life. I also am willing to bet anything DoT and many of those assisted by Dr. Malanga, Steve Richards, L. Ron Hubbard, Eve Lorgen and dozens of others also "know" their experiences are indeed real for them and that the similarities and indeed exact duplications of their experiences are simply impossible to have occurred randomly or coincidentally.

I also understand the human ego very, very well. Especially when one reaches those strange stages where they think they have just about everything all figured out. And the funny thing is... they do, but they do in a much more restricted, finite world anchored by a limited world view. I know that place because I used to come from that place.

Now, I realize I have just begun to explore the vastness of creation, including realms where our lovely other dimensional "friends" dwell - beings who perhaps seek the human experience.

[Chester]

Posted by johnf (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by johnf (here)
Well, ok I must admit that info just might be enough to get me to do that.

You would not be wasting your time to go through this thread, John. This forum and this thread literally and truly saved my life... no - far more than that - this thread gave me life. I live an amazing (free) life now. Each day is mind blowingly wonderful. And there's far more work to be done too. Not until all living souls who seek freedom are shown that they can have it will I sleep soundly.

Thanks Justone, I have gone through the first page and a half so far. And am keeping current on this end. Been hearing and running into this stuff for a good 20 years with no real accessable solution so the therapy part of the discussion has my interest for sure. I mentally went through a questionaire on I think a Malanga site, and only answered yes to one question, the depression one, but I am real sure I have never been physically taken. Hooks into me from the dream state, obe type things, drug incidents etc. I would like to find an accessable way to clarify and deal with that.

That is pretty much my experience as well. I had the lovely "voice in the head" issue. Unfortunately that voice told me about 9/11 a month before it happened and then told me about 7/7 the day before it happened. I had thought this was the voice of "god" for almost 40 years. It truly nearly killed me last late 2011. I highly recommend total sobriety if you suspect you might be dealing with being targeted by one of these types of entities.

[Chester]

Hi again Shin'Ar - Yes, there is that "elite" that you describe... no one here denies that. And we have let these clowns run the show for quite some time, yes? So is it their fault or ours? I see it as both.

What I wonder is... by taking over the process of life that is pretty much controlled for most on this planet by this lovely elite... What if we shared with our children the truth of our experiences from their earliest moments? That we shared our true history, the good, the bad, the ugly? What if in that truth was that some amongst our human family had fallen into some terribly nasty habits and that this involved consciously chosen alignment with nefarious other dimensional beings? That within the reality are all sorts of different types of sentient beings, some STS and some STO? That we share all we know (the truth) from the beginning? That the entire Vatican library be scanned and placed online for anyone who wants to view it? Why not? Humanity can't handle the truth? Can we continue handling the wading through the layers and layers of lies?

I have no doubt that the degree of suffering would be greatly reduced for these generations of children.

Suffering produces character in those who have gone through great suffering and somehow survived... great but in my opinion - absolutely unnecessary.

Fine and good for the tiny percent that somehow survive the process - what about everyone else? Some divine plan - what wisdom. Its a clown show.

So is this necessary? To the degree it occurs on this planet and has for eons? I don't buy into any "divine dynamic" that justifies this. I think that's bull crap, personally.

The "ancients" were so wise, look what we have now? Perhaps the "ancients" should get a clue?

I see acceptance of the "reincarnative complex so one can 'learn lessons and evolve'" as BS someone sold to us and sadly we bought into it on this planet.

Unfortunately, I am one of those clowns that has to be the last one out of the rat hole. Just the way my Dad raised me I guess.

So the real question is, do you consider yourself elite because you are 'satisfying your innate desire' to be a salvation to all suffering, in a world designed fro and dependent on such suffering as the catalyst for the learning which results from it?

You are assuming this was the design of this world. It is my view that someone who believes that is "compromised" by what is known as the "archontic forces." I find those who accept this are generally those who have never experienced the negative side of alien interaction and thus have never had to deal with fragmentation of their spirit. If I were these beings, I would ensure that most of the sheep never get selected for slaughter so that amongst the unmolested sheep, these "fortunate ones" could develop a view that all is well as it is and those who appear to have a difficult time are "ill" in some form or worse, have chosen their experience at some deep level of their individual being, regardless that target sheep having had actual, first hand encounters with wolves.

Let me state this more simply. Regardless if there are various bloodlines of what we call "elite" - they are still human beings who probably use a toilet just like you and me. And if some of them are caught up in practices that require actual living, breathing cousins to be used in their rituals in horrific ways, and you know this goes on can you really tell me with a straight face it is just some antelope caught in the grips of a lion and thus all ok and all just a part of the lovely "mother nature" part of some Good God's "divine plan?"

It don't fly with me, my friend. Sorry - it just don't fly.

[lookbeyond]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks justone,

Precisely:

Forgive me for sounding dumb but is accessing spirit also thru the subconscious eg practising ho,opoponopono?-thx lb

From what I understood of Ho'oponopono, it is best practiced when operating from the "Zero Point" where there are "Zero Limits" and which is, to my understanding, where "Spirit"/YOU "resides" whether one calls it "higher self" or whatever.

This "higher self," BTW, is on the same order of misdirection and artificial separation as "Save Our Souls" is: giving preponderance to something one hasn't got a clue of what it is nor what it looks or feels like and hence comes under a "mystery" or "Great Secret" chapter... when all along it is nothing more nor less than YOU.

How's that for a con?

Hi Amzer Zo, is it possible for you to say this/explain a bit more, for eg i am interested in "Zero point" and the benefits in manifesting my life from there however the emotional disruption to get bac there is huge, guess im wondering if its worth doing-lb

[johnf]

Posted by justoneman (here)

That is pretty much my experience as well. I had the lovely "voice in the head" issue. Unfortunately that voice told me about 9/11 a month before it happened and then told me about 7/7 the day before it happened. I had thought this was the voice of "god" for almost 40 years. It truly nearly killed me last late 2011. I highly recommend total sobriety if you suspect you might be dealing with being targeted by one of these types of entities.

Got the sobriety thing covered. My experiences with the voices are more like feeling a separation between me and my thoughts. Maybe some of the other things I have tried are all I need ,but I often have trouble with anything where I close my eyes for long periods, I walk away with this dead, painfull energy in my space looking for ways to deal with that stuff.

[Hervé]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
[...]

Hi Amzer Zo, is it possible for you to say this/explain a bit more, for eg i am interested in "Zero point" and the benefits in manifesting my life from there however the emotional disruption to get bac there is huge, guess im wondering if its worth doing-lb

Better get it from the horse's mouth... err... finger tips:

http://www.vitality-living.com/resou...Joe+Vitale.pdf (Zero Limits, PDF, right click, "Save target as")

And, the real horse's mouth:

Part 1 of 9

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OL972JihAmg

Part 1 of 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3xCmvZZFQI0