Leo Zagami saying Zecharia Sitchin was Illuminati?

[n.cangiano]

i was just wondering peoples opinions on him saying that, or has there been proof that sitchin was? Or was leo just trying to spread disinformation?

[Kano]

Are you referring to the reverence that the reptilian Annunakis showed for him when he was in their presence that Leo spoke of? If so, it is a good question.

Soon after Leo spoke out, he was discredited as a mad man, his family taken away from him, and he was ultimately silenced. Who knows what things he said that got him into trouble and who knows what was disinformation or simply misinformation.

The web that is weaved is always very complex. My feeling is that Leo Zagami spoke on a lot of issues that were true to him but he too was just a pawn.

[avid]

I remember after that frank interview for P Camelot, he went through hell, and then was 'live' via telephone in a terrible state - he apparently was 'recalled' to service for his lodge..... Mind-controlled Zagami...

[n.cangiano]

it was the interview from project camelot. always wondered if there was truth behind that at all. or just a lie

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Posted by Kano (here)
Are you referring to the reverence that the reptilian Annunakis showed for him when he was in their presence that Leo spoke of? If so, it is a good question.

Soon after Leo spoke out, he was discredited as a mad man, his family taken away from him, and he was ultimately silenced. Who knows what things he said that got him into trouble and who knows what was disinformation or simply misinformation.

The web that is weaved is always very complex. My feeling is that Leo Zagami spoke on a lot of issues that were true to him but he too was just a pawn.

Ahhh see i thought that might have been a possibility. He might have believed it himself but may have been bull.

[Kano]

A common protocol for The Cabal is to spread disinformation with sprinkles of truth so that it seems believable. While he definitely seemed to have insider information, there is just no way to know for certain which parts were real and which were lies.

My personal feeling is that Leo did in fact rub elbows with a lot of very secret and very sinister people. The wooden masqeurade mask that he says turns him into a different person when he is involved in rituals is a common theme going all the way back to Ancient Egypt. The movie "The Mask" with Jim Carrey give some hints about this, and if you look at the Annunaki gods, they are all wearing bird-like masks as well. This is just a small piece but it was something that struck a cord with me when I watched the interview that lended Leo some more credibility.

[Chester]

Posted by n.cangiano (here)
i was just wondering peoples opinions on him saying that, or has there been proof that sitchin was? Or was leo just trying to spread disinformation?

Leo Zagami is a cool cat - he also is prone to psychosis. Here is a video where he clearly is in a psychotic state. This means that everything taken from Leo Zagami might best be taken with a grain of salt. -

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

I might add that of the top ten people on the planet I would like to have the chance to hang out with, Leo Zagami is high on the list.

Have a good day folks, justoneman

[Sirius White]

He spread lots of misinformation.

The lodge he belonged to, IMO- was trying to misinform on certain subjects, in particular the annu. Truth be told most of those guys are terrified of their return. So they demonize them in case they decide to um...fight them off as invaders. And some would ask, how would human beings do this by themselves? Well remember the Annu are a divided family, and there are clans who have power here who don't want to give it up. Mostly the human beings (bloodlines).

But he was right bout lots of other things IMO....little things.

I have zero doubt though, that Sacharia was directly in contact with them.

[G.Deluca]

i can just tell you that i've read his last two books and it doesn't look like disinfo to me,a lot of things he said actually happened here in italy,but when he speaks about other people he tends to disparage them a lot so i guess he also has a big ego

[bennycog]

what i feel is leo has a couple personalities. just from interviews in the past and the issues that created drama in the alternative world.. i dont know if it is his past and/or the company that he kept but that is how i feel..

[Chester]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
He spread lots of misinformation.

The lodge he belonged to, IMO- was trying to misinform on certain subjects, in particular the annu. Truth be told most of those guys are terrified of their return. So they demonize them in case they decide to um...fight them off as invaders. And some would ask, how would human beings do this by themselves? Well remember the Annu are a divided family, and there are clans who have power here who don't want to give it up. Mostly the human beings (bloodlines).

But he was right bout lots of other things IMO....little things.

I have zero doubt though, that Sacharia was directly in contact with them.

Leo Zagami likely believed that Jesus Christ was an incarnation of a being from Sirius. It is also likely that Leo believes that of all the "reptilian" races, the Siriusians are the shepherds and that Jesus Christ was THE "shepherd" the Siriusians designated to be the "savior" of mankind at this time. If one watches the video I posted above, you will see he was (at the time this video was created), that very designated being.

Psychosis can lead one into that territory (and one can experience massive synchronicities such that one can conclude they are correct). It is my opinion that this is what Leo Zagami experienced and may still deal with. I highly recommend he stay completely away from marijuana (and all other drugs including alcohol). Leo is a superman that had (at that point) yet to figure out what his kryptonite was (and is) - just my humble opinion.

He is a super cool "cat" and i hope one day to run into him. We both might enjoy the encounter.

Realize the return of "Jesus Christ" is simply "Horus" to these guys. Realize all the emphasis Leo placed upon his fellow illumed and nutty friend's emphasis on the works of Al Crowley who designated this age to be the Age of Horus. Realize all the Masonic architecture, statues, paintings, etc. that hail Isis and Horus (and oh, yes... a passing mention of Osiris and sometimes Set). Realize the city of Paris for example is named after Isis.

Some of these illumed and nutty are very caught up in a multi-generational meme where they seek to see the day their creation comes forth.

Its just humans being.

Fun stuff... never mind the collateral damage.

Enjoy the Day - justoneman

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Posted by bennycog (here)
what i feel is leo has a couple personalities. just from interviews in the past and the issues that created drama in the alternative world.. i dont know if it is his past and/or the company that he kept but that is how i feel..

99.9% sure he is extremely bi-polar. That he struggles with which pole to emanate from at any given moment is actually a sign of integrity - few appear to have the capacity to understand this. Bottom line is that Leo does not sell out. I cannot think of a greater quality in an individual than that. That's why I love Leo Zagami. - Chester

[Kano]

Leo Zagami is saying a lot of the same things that other "credible" researchers are saying. Maybe one doesn't like his delivery of the material but it is not much different than many others. I do think he has gotten caught up in Satanic ritual and I do think that has had a profound effect on his psyche, but to simply pass him off as having a mental disorder is dismissive.

[Chester]

Posted by Kano (here)
Leo Zagami is saying a lot of the same things that other "credible" researchers are saying. Maybe one doesn't like his delivery of the material but it is not much different than many others. I do think he has gotten caught up in Satanic ritual and I do think that has had a profound effect on his psyche, but to simply pass him off as having a mental disorder is dismissive.

Not sure if your comment here was directed at my post #10, but if so, allow me to clarify. I do not see psychosis as a mental disorder. I see it as an experiential state. In addition, I do not see bi-polar as a disorder, I use the term bi-polar to label one who appears to be a constant mind shifter (far worse to the PTBs than a shape shifter). Leo allows himself to shift from point of view to point of view. What is clear is that he is loving at his core and that to me is what makes or breaks anyone. That's the bottom line to me. Leo cares about all of us. That's (another) why I love Leo Zagami. - Chester

[Kano]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Kano (here)
Leo Zagami is saying a lot of the same things that other "credible" researchers are saying. Maybe one doesn't like his delivery of the material but it is not much different than many others. I do think he has gotten caught up in Satanic ritual and I do think that has had a profound effect on his psyche, but to simply pass him off as having a mental disorder is dismissive.

Not sure if your comment here was directed at my post #10, but if so, allow me to clarify. I do not see psychosis as a mental disorder. I see it as an experiential state. In addition, I do not see bi-polar as a disorder, I use the term bi-polar to label one who appears to be a constant mind shifter (far worse to the PTBs than a shape shifter). Leo allows himself to shift from point of view to point of view. What is clear is that he is loving at his core and that to me is what makes or breaks anyone. That's the bottom line to me. Leo cares about all of us. That's (another) why I love Leo Zagami. - Chester

Hi Chester,

My post was not directed at yours specifically. The point I was trying to make was there has been an enormous amount of psychological abuse in Leo's life and to just label him as "crazy" is dismissive. You did not call him crazy. I just wanted to put that out there. I do however very much like your perspective on psychosis. Very refreshing to hear. Hey, afterall by definition love is a psychosis!

Cheers,
Kano

[Carmody]

It could be said that wearing a mask is an effort to grease/alter/shape the connection to the avatar, so it can be of something else or possessed by something else, or to bring forth a pre-programmed mind state, so that the individual can manifest energies or that a connection to entity or mind form can erupt 'on cue' so to speak.

The mask is for backward evolution, not forward evolution. The mask is for allowing access via avataristic base instincts, not higher ones. That is the heart and core of the problem, as it stands.

As the female military cop said, in the film 'The Jackal' (Richard Gere, Sidney Poitier, Bruce Willis), "The Good Guys.. Don't Hide".

[SEAM]

Regardless of the truth behind this Thread.. I believe You/We have all been had.

I now look at the opposite of anything from the Alt. Comm. and consider it possible, and probably more believable.
New world order - I think we won't get our galactic shiite together until we behave as one... one world, one govt, etc.

If you all think for a moment that the perps who decide this stuff, haven't figured our reaction to the "conspiracy du jour" into the equation.. well then we deserve what we get.

Just sayin'...

[Chester]

Posted by Kano (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Kano (here)
Leo Zagami is saying a lot of the same things that other "credible" researchers are saying. Maybe one doesn't like his delivery of the material but it is not much different than many others. I do think he has gotten caught up in Satanic ritual and I do think that has had a profound effect on his psyche, but to simply pass him off as having a mental disorder is dismissive.

Not sure if your comment here was directed at my post #10, but if so, allow me to clarify. I do not see psychosis as a mental disorder. I see it as an experiential state. In addition, I do not see bi-polar as a disorder, I use the term bi-polar to label one who appears to be a constant mind shifter (far worse to the PTBs than a shape shifter). Leo allows himself to shift from point of view to point of view. What is clear is that he is loving at his core and that to me is what makes or breaks anyone. That's the bottom line to me. Leo cares about all of us. That's (another) why I love Leo Zagami. - Chester

Hi Chester,

My post was not directed at yours specifically. The point I was trying to make was there has been an enormous amount of psychological abuse in Leo's life and to just label him as "crazy" is dismissive. You did not call him crazy. I just wanted to put that out there. I do however very much like your perspective on psychosis. Very refreshing to hear. Hey, afterall by definition love is a psychosis!

Cheers,
Kano

WoW! Great reply and much appreciated that I was knee-jerk reacting wrongly. Glad to see another fan here of Leo Zagami. And yes, he definitely has courageously tested many waters few get near.

I will admit I was confused about love being a psychosis "by definition" but am super open to hear more your thoughts along those lines. Take care my friend, Kano. Chester

[Chester]

Posted by Carmody (here)
It could be said that wearing a mask is an effort to grease/alter/shape the connection to the avatar, so it can be of something else or possessed by something else, or to bring forth a pre-programmed mind state, so that the individual can manifest energies or that a connection to entity or mind form can erupt 'on cue' so to speak.

The mask is for backward evolution, not forward evolution. The mask is for allowing access via avataristic base instincts, not higher ones. That is the heart and core of the problem, as it stands.

As the female military cop said, in the film 'The Jackal' (Richard Gere, Sidney Poitier, Bruce Willis), "The Good Guys.. Don't Hide".

Interesting. Does Leo Zagami hide? I thought he was quite visible as well as accessible. I like your post Carmody but I am confused at the end. Is this meant literally or was it intended metaphorically?

It is my view a knowing good guy does indeed stop hiding but at the same time might use a wee bit of caution such that he doesn't bust through to many paradigms too rapidly.

The world is tricky if nothing else but I like the way Leo has played his hand so far. justone

[Kano]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Kano (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Kano (here)
Leo Zagami is saying a lot of the same things that other "credible" researchers are saying. Maybe one doesn't like his delivery of the material but it is not much different than many others. I do think he has gotten caught up in Satanic ritual and I do think that has had a profound effect on his psyche, but to simply pass him off as having a mental disorder is dismissive.

Not sure if your comment here was directed at my post #10, but if so, allow me to clarify. I do not see psychosis as a mental disorder. I see it as an experiential state. In addition, I do not see bi-polar as a disorder, I use the term bi-polar to label one who appears to be a constant mind shifter (far worse to the PTBs than a shape shifter). Leo allows himself to shift from point of view to point of view. What is clear is that he is loving at his core and that to me is what makes or breaks anyone. That's the bottom line to me. Leo cares about all of us. That's (another) why I love Leo Zagami. - Chester

Hi Chester,

My post was not directed at yours specifically. The point I was trying to make was there has been an enormous amount of psychological abuse in Leo's life and to just label him as "crazy" is dismissive. You did not call him crazy. I just wanted to put that out there. I do however very much like your perspective on psychosis. Very refreshing to hear. Hey, afterall by definition love is a psychosis!

Cheers,
Kano

WoW! Great reply and much appreciated that I was knee-jerk reacting wrongly. Glad to see another fan here of Leo Zagami. And yes, he definitely has courageously tested many waters few get near.

I will admit I was confused about love being a psychosis "by definition" but am super open to hear more your thoughts along those lines. Take care my friend, Kano. Chester

psychosis (saɪˈkəʊsɪs)







— n , pl -choses




Compare neurosis any form of severe mental disorder in which the individual's contact with reality becomes highly distorted







[C19: New Latin, from psycho- + -osis ]

What I meant about love being a psychosis was more meant as a descriptor of the power of love. When you fall in love, does not your world take on a completely different perspective? My contact with reality is/was completely transformed when I met my future wife. In those first few days/weeks/months of falling in love when all you can think about is that person, all of your normal priorities and dogmas are completely rearranged thereby changing your relationship to your own reality in a way unlike any other that I can think of.

Sure, I like Leo Zagami. I will always remember him because he was one of the first to cross my path when I began to awaken. Hearing about the conspiracies with the Vatican and the Freemasons and the Satanic rituals and the idea that the Roman Empire never fell. Whoa! Pump the breaks! I don't think I slept for a whole week with all the reading I did!

He played a part in my process and for that I will always be grateful. So regardless of who his handlers serve, regardless of what he says that is true and what is disinfo (potentially unknowingly), he helped me explore avenues I had never even considered, much like many other whistleblowers that are discussed here at PA. I then did my own research and made up my own mind. And I have come to the conclusion that the things he talks about that matter to me, Leo is telling the truth about. His truth. That's all you can ask of a person.

[Airwooz]

HA it's funny that David Icke interviewed a woman called Arizona Wilder few years ago, in her testimony she said sitchin is a shape-shifter disinfo agent

start at 4:20

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C03VcqFHBAE

[turiya]

Posted by n.cangiano (here)
i was just wondering peoples opinions on him saying that, or has there been proof that sitchin was? Or was leo just trying to spread disinformation?

cangiano wrote:
Leo Zagami saying Zecharia Sitchin was Illiuminati?

In making such a statement about Zecharia Sitchin, it appears to me that Leo Zagami may, or may not, have been absolute in what he knew (or was told) about Zecharia and/or about what was being translated, and where that information actually came from.

As far as I can tell from what has been said about Sitchin, it is said that he had been unknowingly spreading the planted disinformation that was contained within the cuneiform clay tablets in which he gave an honest endeavor to correctly translate.

Zagami, then, is only partially correct, in that Sitchin, not knowing that which was contained on the tablets was, in fact, misinformation that was planted there by the Annunaki for him to find. In this regard, Zecharia Sitchin was unknowingly acting as an agent of the Illuminati, of which the Velon (of which Annunaki is a sub-race) was playing an active role in. As the Velon were a part of the Illuminati upon its inception.

turiya