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    By Alfred Lambremo... - 6 months 3 weeks ago

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    VANCOUVER, BC - Clif High, developer of the WebBots, has predicted June-July 2013 as a possible date for a global coastal event also predicted by Dr. Courtney Brown in 2010 Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing experiments.

    Listen to Global Coastal Event (June-July, 2013) - MP3

    Download CLIF.HIGH.GLOBAL.COASTAL.EVENT.6-7.2013

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/c...t.6-7.2013.mp3

    According to futurist Alfred Lambremont Webre, both Clif High's Web Bots predictions and Dr. Courtney Brown's remote viewing probes of 2013 are refering to the impact of the 2013 flyby of a brown dwarf star twin to our Sun, commonly called the "Lost Star of Time and Myth", "Nibiru" or "Planet X".

    Neither Clif High nor Dr. Brown mention the Nibiru flyby as a specific cause of the predicted June-July, 2013 global coastal event.

    According to Webre, the flyby of the brown dwarf star Nibiru, whose estimated perihelion is 2.85 AU, may well be the cause of the 2013 global coastal event predicted (1) a 1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe of 2013; (a) a 2010 Farsight Institute remote viewing probe of 2013; and now (3) a 2012 prediction of a 2013 global coastal event by the WebBot that determined the estimated maximal Earth impact date of the Planet X- Nibiru Flyby to be June-July, 2013. Clif High also mentions Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot as converging with the WebBot predictions of the Nibiru flyby.

    Other Nibiru experts such as Marshall Masters, a former CNN science feature producer, has forecast February 14, 2013 as the date that Planet X reaches its perihelion, with the maximal damage to Earth being done in the period between February 14 to July 14, 2013 (when Nibiru begins its transit out of our solar system).

    Dwarf star hidden by chemtrails

    Mr. Webre, who is Faculty member at ExoUniversity.org. contends that the U.S. government's Chemtrails program was designed with a primary (secret) intent to provide an atmospheric shield to hide from public view the approach of the possible brown dwarf twin star to our Sun in its approach to its perihelion or closest distance to our Sun at a ninety degree angle to the ecliptic, or plane of rotation of our Sun's planets.

    Mr. Webre, an international war crimes judge, states, "There is evidence that the U.S. and international security state has been tracking Nibiru since at least 1983 through NASA's Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS), and since 2007 through the South Pole Telescope at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station in Antarctica."

    Mr. Webre continues, "Elaborate secret underground shelters and underground intercontinental transit systems exist to house financial and technocratic elites and armed/police forces during the brown dwarf star's flyby.

    Webre states, "At perihelion, interactions between our Sun and this possible brown dwarf twin star may present an extreme hazard to Earth, including solar flares and electrical discharges between our Sun and the dwarf star."

    At perihelion, our Sun and the brown dwarf star will possibly be separated by an estimated 2.85 AU (One AU equals 93 million miles).

    1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe & 2010 Remote Viewing Probe of 2013

    In a 2010 article about the 1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe and the 2010 Farsight Institute remote viewing probe of 2013, Webre wrote:

    As evidence of a possible 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, researcher Dr. Courtney Brown points to the results of a recent Farsight Institute remote viewing study of global climate change 2008 – 2013. Expecting to find marginal effects of global climate change on coastal areas in 2013, Dr. Brown reports, instead remote viewers found a catastrophic 2013 timeline. The 2013 catastrophic timeline is set out in an article by Dr. Brown, and in a presentation that has been shown publicly at only three venues including the recent 2010 IIIHS.org conference in Montreal in which this reporter spoke and participated.

    Viewers can view a video on Dr. Brown's presentation of the Farsight Institute study by clicking here. The video presentation, Parts 1 and 2, summarizes what the scientific results of the Farsight study are.

    Only the facts presented by Dr. Brown in his July 7, 2010 IIIHS public presentation have been included in this report.

    In his July 7, 2010 presentation, Dr. Brown states there are anomalies that suggest the U.S. government and elites are heavily invested in covertly preparing for the 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, while keeping the bulk of the human population in the dark. These anomalies (which are explored at length in the article below) suggest that decision-makers in the U.S. and other government and some elites have made the decision that the 2012-13 catastrophic future is the most probable future, and are feverishly completing underground facilities on Earth for the military, police, and key financial and political elites (as well as secret bases on Mars).

    These anomalies are not part of the Farsight Institute report, Dr. Brown stated, and are personal observations of his own. They are, nevertheless, of extreme social interest.

    The evidence that Earth has recently shifted onto a “positive, non-catastrophic timeline” is growing, however. For example, the results in the Farsight Institute’s 2008-2013 remote viewing study are skewed between a 2013 “catastrophic” timeline and a 2013 “non-catastrophic” timeline. Statistically, 39 percent of the remote viewing reports achieved a disaster score of “3” (Catastrophic), while 29% of the remote viewing reports achieved a disaster score of “0” (Non-catastrophic).

    If the Farsight remote viewing study is correct, it is statistically almost as much a certainty that a positive future will occur in 2012-13 as that a Solar flare-Planet X catastrophe will occur. Dr. Brown notes that Farsight Institute remote viewers once predicted an earthquake that would flatten Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on a specific date. Concerned about public safety, Farsight went public with that prediction. A 6.4 earthquake did occur in the LAX area, without consequent damage to the airport.

    In a remarkable coincidence (or synchronicity), both the Farsight Institute and a chronovisor probe in the early 1970s by DARPA’s Project Pegasus chose archetypal targets in Washington, DC right across the street from each other. Project Pegasus chose to view the U.S. Supreme Court building in 2013 via chronovisor and Project Pegasus participant and whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago “found that the Supreme Court building was under 100 feet of stagnant water” in a chronovisor probe. The Farsight Institute targeted the U.S. Capitol building in 2013, and some remote viewer reports viewed the U.S. Capitol in ruins along side deep water (See Farsight 2013 remote viewing reports in Slide Show in article below). The chronovisor is a device that uses a screen or holographic template to locate and display scenes from the past or future in the time-space hologram. The chronovisor was originally developed by two Vatican scientists in conjunction with Enrico Fermi and later refined by DARPA scientists.

    Mr. Basiago has stated that “that because the chronovisors did not identify absolute, deterministic futures but rather alternate futures in the “multi-verse,” this catastrophic vision of Washington, DC might be from an alternative time line that does not materialize on our time line.” Other Farsight remote viewers targeting the U.S. Capitol in 2013 did not see a Washington, DC devastated by natural catastrophe.

    Here, then, we have the 2012-13 catastrophic and 2012-13 non-catastrophic futures side by side. DARPA’s Project Pegasus chronovisor technology for probing future events in the time-space hologram was state of the art in the early 1970s. Project Pegasus itself was under the policy oversight of Donald H. Rumsfeld as a Nixon cabinet member. It may have been that Presidential-level decisions were made in the early 1970s to commence underground shelter preparations, on the basis of Project Pegasus and other time-travel intelligence about the 2012-13 catastrophic timeline.

    Extraterrestrials, Intention vortex and a safe Nibiru flyby

    Webre, whose book Exopolitics founded the science of relations among intelligent civilizations in the multiverse, states there is some unverified evidence that extraterrestrial/interdimensional civilizations may be intervening to alter Nibiru's orbit and avoid planetary hazards in our solar system.

    Mr. Webre stated, "It is vital that the public inform ourselves about the hazards of the flyby of this possible brown dwarf twin star, and how we can create a collective "intention vortex" that can manifest a safe brown dwarf twin star flyby for humanity and for as many of us who can become aware of its possible reality without panic and with proactive consciousness."

    Recommended Reading, Viewing & Listening

    Marshall Masters - "Planet X-Nibiru comes up from the South from behind and to the left of the Sun"

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...s-up-from-the-...

    VIDEO: RECENT NIBIRU SIGHTINGS - BBC broadcasts Nibiru in a documentary 18 June 2012 must see
    The BBC (UK) has inadvertently recorded Nibiru in a documentary.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=F6ytpbs_e2Q&sns=tw

    GLOBAL COASTAL EVENT: Clif High - Confirming June-July 2013 as date for global coastal event predicted by Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing. This corresponds with impact of Planet X- Nibiru Flyby impact zone (June-July 2013)

    Download CLIF.HIGH.GLOBAL.COASTAL.EVENT.6-7.2013

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/c...t.6-7.2013.mp3

    Video Overview: Surviving the Nibiru Flyby - (Full) 37.31

    http://youtu.be/TaeyGsOi9ls

    RECENT IMAGES OF NIBIRU - articles

    1. Is the Nibiru System Now Observable From Above the Chemtrail Layer? by Marshall Masters

    http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-05a/1.shtml

    2. Nibiru System In Full Color As Seen By A Passenger On-Board A Commercial Aircraft over Melbourne, Australia May 28.2012 Exclusive by Donny Gilson

    http://members.beforeitsnews.com/sto..._A_Passenger_O...
    Videos re Nibiru flyby

    3. Nibiru-Planet X update February 1 2008 (South Pole Telescope - Authentic) - YouTube

    https://youtube.com/watch?list=PL...v=6FtxaXZjs8c#!

    4. Analysis of DNIr4808n South Pole Telescope (SPT) Planet X / Nibiru Disclosure Video - Yowusa.com - YouTube

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5ju...897&playnext=2

    DARPA Chronovisor probes and Remote viewing studies of Nibiru flyby

    6. Are you on a 2012-13 catastrophic or positive future timeline? Part I
    by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

    This article is part of a continuing Exopolitics.com series on 2012-13 and its environmental, economic, social, and exopolitical impacts on our human society. It is recommended that Parts 1 and 2 of this article be read as a single whole.

    In the course of research on potential impending transitional changes during the 2012-13 time horizon, this Examiner.com reporter has identified what can be described as two parallel realities, each buttressed by independent sets of data and personal and institutional decisions – a 2012-13 catastrophic timeline and a 2012-13 positive future timeline.

    The two parallel 2012-13 timelines are quite opposite in nature. The cataclysmic timeline envisions 2012-13 as a time when the Earth is hit by destructive “solar flares, large meteors, tsunamis, world-wide coastal inundations, mega-catastrophe.” The positive timeline envisions 2012-13 as follows: “2012 heralds Earth’s entry into the Golden Age, and between now and then is a time of transition from life as you have known it into life totally in harmony with all of Nature.”

    PART I CONTINUES AT:

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...positive-futur...

    7. Are you on a 2012-13 catastrophic or positive future timeline? Part II
    by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

    This article is part of a continuing series on 2012-13 and its environmental, economic, social, and exopolitical impacts on our human society. It is recommended that Parts 1 and 2 of this article be read as a single whole.

    Read Part I

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...positive-futur...

    Will a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ materialize in our solar system in 2012-13?

    One popular meme or model of a 2012-13 “catastrophic timeline” hinges on the entry of a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ into our solar system, creating the gigantic solar flares and large meteors that in turn trigger tsunamis, coastal inundations, and systems collapse on Earth.

    As a scientific control we can reasonably ask – Is a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ headed toward Earth, to arrive in 2012-13?

    One indicator that a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ may be headed toward Earth, to arrive in 2012-13 can be inferred from a Project Camelot document, a 2008 ‘Letter from a Norwegian politician’ stating, in part, that,

    "Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

    "As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue, and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

    "The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do."

    PART II CONTINUES AT:

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...positive-futur...

    END OF THIS ARTICLE
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    Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

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    Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?
    Hello lookbeyond, i think we are on the balanced timeline now, things will happen but no more than need to.. As for Nibiru; the brown dwarf star, it doesn't exist in that form and it isn't coming for a fly-by either.

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    Quote Clif High, developer of the WebBots, has predicted June-July 2013 as a possible date for a global coastal event also predicted by Dr. Courtney Brown in 2010 Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing experiments.


    This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that
    Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.

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    Quote Clif High, developer of the WebBots, has predicted June-July 2013 as a possible date for a global coastal event also predicted by Dr. Courtney Brown in 2010 Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing experiments.


    This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that
    Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.
    ...noticed this myself, a few times . To the point where even their books repeat each other's spelling errors.
    But I guess once you've publish one book you've got to keep going...

    while some focus on perpetuating the arms race others perpetuate their publishing race;
    after all, there's a reputation to live up to.

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    Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?
    I have a slight problem with the time line idea.
    This is why.
    Every time I/we make a choice or act---a new potential opens up.
    The word time line seems to imply a fixed direction or even a definite result, for at least a period of time.

    I see that events are cyclic but not the same--- any event is not necessarily the same for everyone.
    Even two people in the same situation have different results.

    So potential changes moment by moment, its fluid so I think the concept of time line is incorrect it even seems to imply ---- "This is where we are going!!!!." One person may be going, there a lot of people may be going there, but not necessarily every one, or anyone.

    You could debate the concept for ever--its a meme, a buzz expression and there is some fear included in it----something out with our control is the end result of this!!!!
    Its a all hypothetical.

    This is no reflection on lookbeyond --she just triggered the thought.
    Certainly the standard advice is,--- look to live on higher ground--or at least plan for emergencies.
    That is sound advice.

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    By Alfred Lambremo... - 6 months 3 weeks ago

    (Downloads & videos at Link below - KiwiElf)



    Dwarf star hidden by chemtrails

    Mr. Webre, who is Faculty member at ExoUniversity.org. contends that the U.S. government's Chemtrails program was designed with a primary (secret) intent to provide an atmospheric shield to hide from public view the approach of the possible brown dwarf twin star to our Sun in its approach to its perihelion or closest distance to our Sun at a ninety degree angle to the ecliptic, or plane of rotation of our Sun's planets.


    END OF THIS ARTICLE
    Hi Kiwielf, I want to respectfully disagree with you about Planet X/Nibiru/Brown Dwarf or what ever it's called.
    I don't want to repeat the many threads that are even here on projectavalon about this subject. However, let's think about it - wouldn't Courtney Brown remote view it as it would be in the sky? As to it being "hidden" by chemtrails - how can we still see the moon in the same brightness? How can satellite telescopes in space not see it (which are above the chemtrails)...

    My own opinion is the Global Coastal Event will not happen by 30 June 2013. So we don't have long to wait and see what happens.
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    Quote Hi Kiwielf, I want to respectfully disagree with you about Planet X/Nibiru/Brown Dwarf or what ever it's called.
    Again Mulder - disagree with the original post(ers) at the first link (ie Alfred Lambremont-Webre, et-al), not me. I'm just the messenger: I didn't write it
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    This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.
    I am a bit confused by the way the sentences are constructed. I think that you say that Clif would pick up internet discussions as Courtney Brown
    publishes his material. However the global coastal event is already in Clif's data since 2003.

    Or did you mean that remote viewers are influenced by the fact that Clif speaks about a global coastal event already for years?

    Anyway, I am getting more and more baffled by reported fireballs in the US skies and now exploding meteorites in Russia. Perhaps
    we're seeing the prelude of such an event in the making. It's healthy to be skeptical but we must be realistic too.

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)

    This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.
    I am a bit confused by the way the sentences are constructed. I think that you say that Clif would pick up internet discussions as Courtney Brown
    publishes his material. However the global coastal event is already in Clif's data since 2003.

    Or did you mean that remote viewers are influenced by the fact that Clif speaks about a global coastal event already for years?

    Anyway, I am getting more and more baffled by reported fireballs in the US skies and now exploding meteorites in Russia. Perhaps
    we're seeing the prelude of such an event in the making. It's healthy to be skeptical but we must be realistic too.
    Whoever comes first in any particular area will be having an effect on the other. Remote viewing into the future is an extrapolation from RV into the past.

    Regarding meteorites coinciding with an asteroid although coming from a different direction: for two rare events to coincide, it sounds suspiciously like one or the other is unnatural, i.e. artificial. If some natural disaster of this kind has been forecast for years on the Internet by whoever and by whatever means, I would tend to say, How very convenient!

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Whoever comes first in any particular area will be having an effect on the other.
    Yes, in general that's true for the paradigm we have lived in so far.

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Remote viewing into the future is an extrapolation from RV into the past.
    I don't agree ... RV is NOT done with the 'monkey mind' and thus not an extrapolation of ones conscious mind.
    Of course this is only true if the RV session is done in a full professional way under the right conditions.

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Regarding meteorites coinciding with an asteroid although coming from a different direction: for two rare events to coincide, it sounds suspiciously like one or the other is unnatural, i.e. artificial.
    I didn't see it posted here on the forum (I may have missed it) but there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
    a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that. I don't know, without more facts or evidence it is
    probably not worth going down that path. But hey, nowadays everything is possible. Won't be the first time something very crazy
    turns out to be true after all.

    I just monitor events. Lots of them cannot be verified. Others are so in your face that they cannot be faked or denied.
    Like the drawings we've been doing as kids, patterns develop from connecting the dots.

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
    a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that.
    If the Russian military has technology that can fire at and hit an object, previously unseen and unsuspected, traveling at 33,000 mph through our upper atmosphere, then that's pretty impressive.



    Regardless of whether any foreseen earth changes (or solar activity) this year are caused directly or indirectly by Planet X (whatever or wherever it may be), I'd like to clarify the following:
    • If Planet X was about to "fly by" this summer, we'd already be able to see it.
    • Any object in stable orbit around the sun, no matter how eccentric the orbit might be, will not ''impact' it. That's impossible.
    • Less there should be any misunderstanding from the article or the thread title, there'll be no impact with Planet Earth either.
    • There may be gravitational or electromagnetic effects from a massive incoming body (such as a brown dwarf star about the size of Jupiter) that could cause effects on our climate or on solar activity. This could be the case even if Planet X is nowhere near us. (It may become visible in a few years' time, but not before.)
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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
    a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that.
    If the Russian military has technology that can fire at and hit an object, previously unseen and unsuspected, traveling at 33,000 mph through our upper atmosphere, then that's pretty impressive.
    Yeah, I know ... that is why I described it as rumor and already mentioned "it is probably not worth going down that path".
    The trigger to mention it at all came from the angle of it being 'unnatural' or 'artificial'.

    The only thing coming close to such a phenomena is perhaps the event when 1st Lt. Bob Jacobs witnessed an UFO decapitating
    the warhead from a nuclear missile while it was in flight. But even then the speed wasn't close to 33,000 mph (approx. 1/3 to 1/2
    that speed). Because we suspect that there is a break away civilization having this technology the question rises if they could
    interfere with natural events turning them into a disaster. But that's all speculation ... better leave it alone.



    On the other hand I think we should also be cautioned not to dismiss things just because we cannot explain yet. A 3d sphere flying
    through a 2d plane would be experienced as a growing- and then diminishing dot while they never saw it coming. They wouldn't
    have a clue about what just happened.

    What exactly does the LUCIFER device add to the Arizona telescope so that they can detect things other telescopes won't see?

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    according to the meier contacts , Ptaah stated that nibiru the destroyer came by in 1997 dragging the hale bop comet, it passes by our neighborhood around every 500 years or so ... no need to worry ...at least until the year 2497 ...
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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

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    Quote Posted by lookbeyond (here)
    Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?
    I have a slight problem with the time line idea.
    This is why.
    Every time I/we make a choice or act---a new potential opens up.
    The word time line seems to imply a fixed direction or even a definite result, for at least a period of time.

    I see that events are cyclic but not the same--- any event is not necessarily the same for everyone.
    Even two people in the same situation have different results.

    So potential changes moment by moment, its fluid so I think the concept of time line is incorrect it even seems to imply ---- "This is where we are going!!!!." One person may be going, there a lot of people may be going there, but not necessarily every one, or anyone.

    You could debate the concept for ever--its a meme, a buzz expression and there is some fear included in it----something out with our control is the end result of this!!!!
    Its a all hypothetical.

    This is no reflection on lookbeyond --she just triggered the thought.
    Certainly the standard advice is,--- look to live on higher ground--or at least plan for emergencies.
    That is sound advice.

    Chris


    I appreciate your input Chris, thankyou

    lookbeyond

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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

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    according to the meier contacts , Ptaah stated that nibiru the destroyer came by in 1997 dragging the hale bop comet, it passes by our neighborhood around every 500 years or so ... no need to worry ...at least until the year 2497 ...
    ghostrider...
    Are you referring to the mysterious Hale-Bopp "Companion Object" (which disappeared "off the radar"), discovered by amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek - but also sighted several months earlier by the Japanese National Observatory, the Vatican & the Hubble - in 1996/7?
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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    according to the meier contacts , Ptaah stated that nibiru the destroyer came by in 1997 dragging the hale bop comet, it passes by our neighborhood around every 500 years or so ... no need to worry ...at least until the year 2497 ...
    Do you mean Nibiru comes every 500 years or Hale Bopp? I thought Hale Bopp won't be back for another 2520-2533 years. Remember, Marshall Applewhite Leader of Heaven's Gate, organized a mass suicide in hopes of spiritually riding along with the UFO which he thought followed the Hale–Bopp comet (I don't know if this is the same object as Nibiru).
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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

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    Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?
    there's no need to wait because all timelines are catastrophic, perhaps to varying degrees, but there's most likely no single timeline you could possibly enter that does not experience these catastrophes. they must happen and they will, there's no way they can not happen because not only would it invalidate all prophecies about the current time period that have been made throughout the ages (countless ones) but it would also change the future of the earth in ways that are not planned. the earth will be largely depopulated, the difference in terms of timelines will be how severe the changes will be and what happens afterwards.

    here's an interesting interview re prophecies and earth changes. now is the time they were speaking about, all of them, the next 7 years will be decisive. doesn't matter if people believe it or continue to live in denial until the last moment because they're skeptics or don't like the truth, or if they "think positively" and hope nothing will happen. it would be better to get used to the idea and prepare, because prepared is better than surprised, and because keeping a positive mind set DESPITE worldwide catastrophes will be the most important thing one could possibly do. the next harvest starts in 2013, whether people like it or not.


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    Default Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

    Will attempt to upload a small 3-page PDF document related to my Post #17. Please bear with me as it may not work - if not I'll convert it later

    This was extracted from the March 1997 issue of Connections, the NZ-based UFO magazine at the time.

    In summary, a large planetary object was sighted by an amateur astronomer, Chuck Shramek, trailing the Hale-Bopp comet, and given the name "Companion". NEXUS magazine ran a similar article at the time. It implicated the Vatican, NASA, and the Japanese National Observatory, which had spotted it several months earlier. It caused such a controversy that the whole story "disappeared".

    Part of the controversy included an anonymous email sent to Art Bell from someone claiming to have discovered a classified file called "Wormwood?" (with a question mark) at the Vatican which allegedly had a direct uplink to the Hubble.

    Considering the most recent events, Pope's resignation, meteorites and increasing earthquakes, they may have been onto something. Here goes...
    Attached Files
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