Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

[Wind]

I'm sure that many have seen the movie Deep Impact?

The plot in the movie is really interesting, I kid you not. They try to destroy the big comet with nuclear bombs, but they end up splitting it.

Beck (a black president played by Morgan Freeman) announces the Messiah (a space ship sent to destroy the comet) crew’s failure, declares martial law and reveals that governments worldwide have been building underground shelters.

The Biederman fragment impacts in the Atlantic Ocean near Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, creating a megatsunami. Leo, Sarah, and her baby brother survive. Lerner, her father, Sarah's parents, and millions along the Atlantic coasts of North and South America, Europe, and Africa perish. The world braces for the impact of Wolf in western Canada, which will create a cloud of dust that will block out the sun for two years. This, in turn, will destroy most life on Earth. Low on fuel and life support, the crew of the Messiah decides to undertake a suicide mission with the remaining nuclear warheads. After saying goodbye to their loved ones by video conference, the ship reaches the fragment and enters a fissure to blow itself up, which breaks Wolf into much smaller pieces that burn up in Earth's atmosphere.

President Beck, speaking to a large crowd in front of the United States Capitol building, which is undergoing reconstruction, urges the nation and the world to continue their recovery.

Sounds really familiar, doesn't it?

Funnily enough there was space probe launched on January 12, 2005 called Deep Impact. It was designed to study comets.

I've always remember this scene from the movie.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VNtsVP42bOE

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Tesseract (here)
I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

Let's consider this.

First I'll dismiss the optical flare idea because grunge on a windshield can't cause that - only light sources can. I think what was meant was perhaps them apparent luminance of this piece of "grunge" - so let's assume that - this might be possible and valid.

It appears that even though the camera is tracking the object left to right - the piece of grunge is also moving left to right faster than the object. If I was tracking something left to right, any stationary object in my view would go right to left.

That said, I can also see this video has its own camera tracking (it's own zoomed track separate from the footage) and I cannot see the camera track of the camera because there is not enough in the scene, so the windshield grunge theory still may have some weight ... one would have to look at the original video, and determine if the tracking there accounts for windshield grunge.

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI

[Hervé]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by AuCo (here)
Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.

Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor -- the difference between the two is just a matter of size -- can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

If it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. On the other hand, a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and impact the ground big time.

My guess of what AuCo is trying to say is that depending on a high velocity meteor and incidence angle, instead of slowing down and entering earth's atmosphere, said meteor would bounce off the atmosphere if the angle is shallow enough like with bouncing flat pebbles off a pond water surface ("grazer"). Getting similar to "reflection" vs. "refraction" in optics.

[GaelVictor]

The Russian air defence hit the meteor with an intercept missile similar to the American Patriot missile system, the S-300 or even the brandnew S-400 ; http://missilethreat.com/defense-sys...a-12-gargoyle/ , http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a93_1356512266

The traveling hight and angle of inpact on the meteor seems to match that of the Patriot missile; https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMrugIQlzOk


*After seeing the HD version i have to agree it's glare from the windshield.

[RMorgan]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Tesseract (here)
I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

Let's consider this.

First I'll dismiss the optical flare idea because grunge on a windshield can cause that - only light sources can. I think what was meant was perhaps them apparent luminance of this piece of "grunge" - so let's assume that - this might be possible and valid.

It appears that even though the camera is tracking the object left to right - the piece of grunge is also moving left to right faster than the object. If I was tracking something left to right, any stationary object in my view would go right to left.

That said, I can also see this video has its own camera tracking (it's own zoomed track separate from the footage) and I cannot see the camera track of the camera because there is not enough in the scene, so the windshield grunge theory still may have some weight ... one would have to look at the original video, and determine if the tracking there accounts for windshield grunge.

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI

I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
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I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.

I find wide perspectives often "less deceiving" than the details ( ... and I am talking about perspectives of perception in general -- not video clips )

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.

I agree as well.

I watched it frame by frame at 1080p, and it seems clear it was a refractive speck on the car's windshield. Look very carefully, and it moves exactly with the car -- and, actually, the object doesn't explode until a few seconds later. It was a coincidence (another one!!) that the speck goes right through the object.

By the way, that was quite a video... imagine driving along the road and that happens right in front of you, staying exactly in your field of vision as you turn.

[Hervé]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
[...]

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

[...]

Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?

[Hughe]

Escape velocity of rocket from Earth is around 11km/s. 39,600 km/h.
Speed of sound is mach 1 = 340.29 m / s.
Speed of fast missiles is around mach 5, 1.7km/s (340.29 m/s x 5)

Assuming the object was moving over 11 km/s, which is ten times faster than conventional missiles, could it be intercepted by a missile?
Big meteors that have enough mass to survive the burning during travel of atmosphere must make big holes on the ground.
Then photos of impact craters by the object should be released by now.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
[...]

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

[...]

Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?

Same effect that if you have a windshield with bugs on it the windshield looks brighter when the sun is shining through it as opposed to it's normal clearness. Ever driven through the Canadian prairies into the sun at dusk?

[Hervé]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?

All right, the appearance and disappearance of the windshield "gunk" is symmetrical with respect to the "Fireball"... windshield "gunk" it is, IMO.

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Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
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Ever driven through the Canadian prairies into the sun at dusk?

... in the summer... yes.

[RMorgan]

The most impressive thing is that the Russian guy driving the car just grumbles something, like he´s not impressed at all with a freaking big meteor! He doesn´t even reduces the driving speed! Russians are cold!

If it was an American, we would be hearing several OH MY GODs followed by at least a dozen of OH S#ITs and a couple of FU#Ks!

[KiwiElf]

Sidenote: I wondered how the original video of the meteor was so luckily captured, ie great coincidence or what? With a bit of digging I discovered many Russians use cams mounted on their car dashes due to the extraordinarily high accident rate & their lousy driving (ie proof to insurance companies).

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Sidenote: I wondered how the original video of the meteor was so luckily captured, ie great coincidence or what? With a bit of digging I discovered many Russians use cams mounted on their car dashes due to the extraordinarily high accident rate & their lousy driving (ie proof to insurance companies).

They do have some good Wodka in Russia.

[Prodigal Son]

From what I'm seeing, the "speck on the windshield" turns into about 4 specks going off in different trajectories after it passes through the object!!

And then at the 1:09 mark, to the upper left of the bus stopped in traffic, in the blue sky there appears to be puffs of white smoke like artillery fire....

[WhiteFeather]

I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?

[Prodigal Son]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?

I'm going to go out on a limb in complete ignorance and say that whatever hit that thing broke it up into a few smaller pieces that continued pretty much parallel to each other... and that the smaller pieces burned up all at once in a more dense part of the atmosphere.... otherwise it would have cut out another Tunguska crater or worse..... which by the way I think was a Tesla experiment !!

[RMorgan]

Posted by Prodigal Son (here)

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?

I'm going to go out on a limb in complete ignorance and say that whatever hit that thing broke it up into a few smaller pieces that continued pretty much parallel to each other... and that the smaller pieces burned up all at once in a more dense part of the atmosphere.... otherwise it would have cut out another Tunguska crater or worse..... which by the way I think was a Tesla experiment !!

Tunguska meteor was estimated to be 100m wide, impacting with a 15 to 30 megaton blast. Totally different from this one, which was only about 15m wide.

By the way, small meteoroids like this one usually start breaking up right when they enter our atmosphere; They are extremely cold, but when they enter out atmosphere, they are heated to extremely hot temperatures; This absurd temperature shock causes them break up.

[KiwiElf]

The Tunguska meteor was also controversial with some eyewitnesses at the time claiming it was doing turns before it exploded. No significant fragments of that one have ever been found and the area is still slightly "radiated".
- Sachs, 1977 "The Tunguska Incident"

1908: Huge explosion in Tunguska, Siberia which lays waste to tens of square miles of forest. Eyewitnesses describe huge, bright object in the sky making "turns" prior to explosion in mid-air. (The debris field is reminiscent of Hiroshima).

And quote from here...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-of-Deception

[johnf]

I don't find the breaking up up this meteor to be unusual.
I was under one once that came down in a shallow angle. I was at a high school football game , and the audience went silent.
It made a lot of noise as it came in shooting off a lot of sparks, but no visible peices.
Big rocks like that are not going to be the same composition all the way through, and I would think a huge one would have natural fracture lines that would go mostly from the heat, and be helped by the impact with the air it compresses when it runs into it.
But anyway, that is one clear memory compared to many others I have. It was a pretty rare event.
I am starting to wonder if this sort of thing is going to be less rare in the future, and would like to see more conversations in here about whether we are passing through a section off space that has more of these things in it, etc.
If we are heading into a period where this happens more often, it is an area that is ripe for spin and manipulation.