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    Default Re: How Government & Mainstream Media Cheated Ron Paul Big Time! [ThinkOutsideTheTV]

    They didn't just cheat Ron Paul, they cheated the American people and the whole world but that's OK,.. THEY WILL PAY !

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    At least the man is alive, if they hadn't blocked him by fooling the moronic masses and he'd become president they probably would have assassinated him.

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    Default Re: How Government & Mainstream Media Cheated Ron Paul Big Time! [ThinkOutsideTheTV]

    This isn't the first time TPTB have closed ranks to protect their power - don't forget what happened to Ross Perot in the 1990s.
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    http://campaignforliberty.org ~sub: http://youtube.com/RonPaulRevolt2012

    On today's program, Alex welcomes former Congressman Ron Paul to break down the use of force by federal agents to enforce unjust and unconstitutional laws and the victimization of Americans for simply engaging in commercial transactions. http://ronpaul.com

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    Maybe I'm wrong, but did Alex not cut Ron off quite quickly after he didn't go along with the impeach line of questions.... c'mon...that was Ron Paul... did he >have< to be cut off for time purposes... and in the middle of his sentence no less? I've seen Alex give MUCH less interesting/important people another hour just because they were involved in a somewhat interesting round of conversation.

    your thoughts please...

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    Maybe I'm wrong, but did Alex not cut Ron off quite quickly after he didn't go along with the impeach line of questions.... c'mon...that was Ron Paul... did he >have< to be cut off for time purposes... and in the middle of his sentence no less? I've seen Alex give MUCH less interesting/important people another hour just because they were involved in a somewhat interesting round of conversation.

    your thoughts please...
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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

    fair point, btu still, Alex is one of the worst for cutting off his guests to steer the conversation where he wants it to go.
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    Ron and Rand Paul had big plans for the 2012 elections and nothing came of it. I think the same thing will keep repeating. IMO this old saying is appropriate: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice,..."
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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

    - Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)
    “Treaties DO NOT confer powers NOT authorized by Constitution…”

    - "16 Am Jur. 2nd, Sec 177 late 256:
    No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

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    how can u possibly blame ron paul for the fools out there not voting for him?

    also how in any way did he fool or shame u.....hes an elderly man fighting for our freedoms and rights like no politician maybe ever , and hes still

    doing it til this day......at age 76.
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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

    Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wont-endorse/

    The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
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    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    - Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)
    “Treaties DO NOT confer powers NOT authorized by Constitution…”

    - "16 Am Jur. 2nd, Sec 177 late 256:
    No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
    Unfortunately, the Satanic Courts can rule anyway the like, or are told to and there's no holding any Judge to account as they have immunity from prosecution - e.g. Jesse Ventura's TSA lawsuit. The Judge took several months to rule she has no "Jurisdiction" over a constitutional matter (and she never told Jesse who does have Jurisdiction?)
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    Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wont-endorse/

    The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
    I was going to post something along those lines earlier but i didn't
    want people to think that i was a ron paul hater, which i'm not.

    I just feel that he is a tiger with no teeth. He wants to help but
    just can't get the job done. I have mixed feelings about Rand Paul.
    I don't know where he stands yet.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

    I like Ron Paul, and much like Alex Jones, he's great entry level material into figuring out the trap we are in.

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    I like Ron Paul, and much like Alex Jones, he's great entry level material into figuring out the trap we are in.
    The good thing about Ron Paul though as well, is that he is part of the system, and reaches a totally different audience with the language he uses and the position he holds. I believe he is an important piece in the puzzle and requires encouragement to continue.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Announces Big Plans for 2013

    well he has already retired and whether he has acheived much is very subjective i am aware..........if the only politician who will speak against the evills of endless war......... and has been trying to end the fed for 30 years doesnt acheive

    much i would say horray for him for having the courage to speak the 100 percent truth.......and boooo to the people for not supporting him.....

    hard to accomplish much when u are just one person trying to change the entire crooked system.imo its amazing they didnt kill him for the truths he told for so long




    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wont-endorse/

    The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.

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    also i must rspond to the dysfunctional family quote...becuase it is so incorrect and imo absurd.........yes rand did endorse romney......after ron had withdrawn from the race and stop campaigning.

    rand is trying to play the game..something ron would never do......an outsider...like ron was can never change the system from within. not saying rand paul will be able to.......but that imo is his goal. president 2016.





    Quote Posted by robinr1 (here)
    well he has already retired and whether he has acheived much is very subjective i am aware..........if the only politician who will speak against the evills of endless war......... and has been trying to end the fed for 30 years doesnt acheive

    much i would say horray for him for having the courage to speak the 100 percent truth.......and boooo to the people for not supporting him.....

    hard to accomplish much when u are just one person trying to change the entire crooked system.imo its amazing they didnt kill him for the truths he told for so long




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    Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wont-endorse/

    The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.

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    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-wont-endorse/


    The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
    I have to disagree with you on Ron Paul's future achievements. I believe that he is going to wake up a lot of people in the next few years. He will now have more control with his own agenda without being saddled down in congress.
    Retire soon? I don't think so. Perhaps you define "soon" differently then I do, but I see Ron Paul going strong for a few more years (at least 3). He seems to be physically in good shape and his mind is extremely sharp. I look for a lot of good to come from him.
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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    I think I understand what Ron Paul really meant about impeaching Obama. He was saying good luck trying....

    A few days ago, I was reading a store receipt and the part that suddenly stood out in my mind was "....the US and DC". I've read this on many other things as well. The implications of this never dawned on me until now.

    What I've discovered is that District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States. They are a city/state that answers to no one. Just knowing this makes all the corruption that they've gotten away with make more sense. They break laws with impunity. When anyone tries to convict them, look who they'll stand before: more of the corrupted politicians....No justice will ever be served that way, I can tell you!
    Why is it that we answer to THEM? It's not supposed to be like that. We send our delegates to represent us, but as we've seen time and time again, they become just like the rest of them. They fall victim to the corruption there. It's a miracle that people like Ron Paul have managed to retain their honor and integrity in that place. I'm willing to guess that the numbers of honest guys fall way below the criminal ones.

    I think Ron Paul knew the truth way before many of us did. I think he was trying to say that there's no way we can change what's going on in DC from inside DC. It would be virtually impossible. If he said that presidents for the last 50 years SHOULD HAVE been impeached, he was hinting "good luck trying to get this one, too....."
    The best way to solve this is to get outside of that "10 square mile box" that's DC. We all NEED to know the truth about what's going on there, and even WHAT is there; so we can find a way to rectify it. As we're all starting to see that the Truth refuses to stay hidden now. These corrupted people are being exposed as they're committing their crimes. To them, I say: "Rack 'em, sweethearts. It's just more evidence to convict you with! And you WILL be convicted!"

    Maybe Ron Paul will be the first leader of America after all is said and done....

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    Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.

    What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?

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