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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by korgh (here)
    After read a lot about these theories and all data around, i have to agree with Amzer Zo.
    The only thing known capable to hit the meteor is:

    ... and Project Pegasus, plus our alleged "secret space force" - check it out (but STAR TREK technology isn't far wrong )
    Yep, even considering all projects and all obscure "task forces" with extreme technology surrounding our lifes , the weaponry or whatever who hit the meteor was invisible or cloaked.
    I saw the images and some material posted more than once and like Bill said: "it seems clear it was a refractive speck on the car's windshield".
    If not, and maybe i'm wrong, based in the angle of projectile hitting the target (meteor) once again the "weapon" is invisible.

    Well... i only know one machine perfect to do this job.
    • Invisible
    • Powerful
    • Hi-Tech
    • Good enough to hit some wild meteors
    This one!





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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote Posted by AuCo (here)
    Since the implication of something other than an actual meteor should not be leisurely ignored therefore if I may, would like to re-iterate. The probable angle of meteor impact is roughly 45 degrees (thus majority of craters are round). The original video in post #1 shows the trajectory almost horizontal (someone mentioned 15 degrees - look at 28 and 48 secs in video of post #41) would have produced an elongated crater, not one like in post #67. Besides, for a meteor to impact at such an angle (15 degree), the angle of entry (attacking angle) must have been way too small; trajectory is curved towards ground. Notice the reported direction of entry (post 48) is opposite to the Earth rotation which makes it even more improbable.
    G'day AuCo,

    I did this image to show the angle of object:



    As the object is supposed to have disintegrated prior to impact (I personally don't think the ice hole is an impact crater as it was reported in the Russian media that it wasn't) there would be no impact crater. Though I am confused as to why there were reports that the Russian military had cordoned of impact areas and were wearing protective suits.
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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    It looks like evidence is building more for a natural reason for these events... Is the evidence manufactured or did a lot of people jump to conclusions? Did we want it to be something else so bad that we went into mass histeria? I am not sure. I am still on the fence even though I was told there was human activity involved. I guess we should stay tuned to see what some of the people I trust (Bill, Kerry, David W. & 1 other) to see if anything else shakes out on this topic.

    Link to Mulders Thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...699#post638699
    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    This shows a recent web-bot prediction has come true, and Cliff is predicting alot more communications outages this year.

    Within the first 3 minutes of his audio report (below), Cliff High predicts events in space will cause satellite communications outages! He also predicted Comet DA-14 would have companions following it (such as the ones that hit Russia).

    Here's a story showing the ISS communications were impacted:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-...station-2013-2

    Here's Cliff's predictions made on 15 Feb 2013:
    http://www.halfpasthuman.com/wujo/cl...152013da14.mp3
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    Quote Posted by AuCo (here)
    Since the implication of something other than an actual meteor should not be leisurely ignored therefore if I may, would like to re-iterate. The probable angle of meteor impact is roughly 45 degrees (thus majority of craters are round). The original video in post #1 shows the trajectory almost horizontal (someone mentioned 15 degrees - look at 28 and 48 secs in video of post #41) would have produced an elongated crater, not one like in post #67. Besides, for a meteor to impact at such an angle (15 degree), the angle of entry (attacking angle) must have been way too small; trajectory is curved towards ground. Notice the reported direction of entry (post 48) is opposite to the Earth rotation which makes it even more improbable.
    G'day AuCo,

    I did this image to show the angle of object:



    As the object is supposed to have disintegrated prior to impact (I personally don't think the ice hole is an impact crater as it was reported in the Russian media that it wasn't) there would be no impact crater. Though I am confused as to why there were reports that the Russian military had cordoned of impact areas and were wearing protective suits.
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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Confession: When I first saw this video posted (on another thread), I thought: "Nonsense. No way could the Russians shoot down a small object traveling at 33,000 mph."

    But I watched the video -- and now I'm not nearly so sure. It really looks as if something solid and non-explosive struck the object cleanly from one side (coming from the left), and continued out of the frame to the right.

    The video is pretty clear for what it is. It looked like what one would expect from a kinetic energy weapon. That's a very fast, large bullet, to you and me.

    Here's the concept, which was always part of the Star Wars program (and the Russians have their equivalent, too):
    http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles

    If the Russians really do have the technology to do this, the Americans should be worried. It would mean they can take down any satellite, missile or advanced aircraft they want to, at any time they choose.

    The other outlandish explanation (more outlandish? Maybe not!) is that ETs intervened. I can't think of any other way to explain the video other than the above two suggestions.
    Edit to add -- see my post #27 over the page. I've changed my mind.
    It could have been the Russian version of the American Black Ops underground dwelling second civilization.
    Russia has their own version of what America is doing I'm sure.
    It also reminds me what a rail gun would do. It doesn't seem implausible that there would be a satelite armed with a rail gun on it.

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote Posted by Borden (here)
    This is one of those instances when I really do think that places like this are the unwitting sheepdog to the socio-engineered mind. When so many subjects are rendered ludicrous, is it any wonder that the sorts of subjects we discuss here are considered the talk of flakes?

    A place like Avalon should have some integrity and intelligence. If we play into their hands by buying into the most absurd 'conspiracies' then we poison everything for anything of merit we may discuss. We become laughable.

    I'm not an expert in meteorites, but it looks as though that 'event' was a part of the dynamic of a very fast moving and super-heated object.

    This depresses me but doesn't surprise me.
    Me thinks you prop up your self importance a little too much. Don't worry about what "they" think of you bro. We are having a conversation, no one is stating anything definitively, relax, put your feet up, light a pipe, the popparazzi are not going to snap your picture.

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Great conversation and info people. I am never let down by the great minds of Avalon. This Thread and the other one mentioned that I started earlier have had some excellent updates that compliment eachother. Please see the latest on the Speculations 1 through 6 I made and which ones are holding up to time and info/disinfo/media confusion...



    Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...713#post638713

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Great conversation and info people. I am never let down by the great minds of Avalon. This Thread and the other one mentioned that I started earlier have had some excellent updates that compliment eachother. Please see the latest on the Speculations 1 through 6 I made and which ones are holding up to time and info/disinfo/media confusion...



    Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...713#post638713
    Excelent!
    Thats the point!
    That material makes more sense than others like E.Ts from planet Zebra shooting in meteors or something similar.
    I have no doubt that they exist( maybe not from planet zebra ) and something very sinister is running in our backs, so is better do not jump before analyse very careful all data that we have.

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Quote WorshipstheSun
    I don't know if anyone else stated this, but IMHO, if a meteorite came down and hit the ice as shown in that picture/vid, #1, I don't think it would leave a perfectly round hole. #2 I think something that big coming down at such speed, would have caused much more disruption of the ice, via a huge wave, or huge cracks all around. I 'm not sure, but my gut tells me "something" is "OFF" about that.
    I see where you're coming from WTS - Most of the older meteorite craters on the Earth are, oddly enough, quite symetrical, eg Arizona - despite the fact they didn't come straight down either.
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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Allegedly... "something" intercepting Asteroid DA14 (from NASA feed)
    I cannot validate this ... it is interesting (but could be faked).



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    Incredible footage caught by NASA as they tracked Asteroid DA14. If it was a natural celestial event then why did NASA cut the feed. It is my belief that our Extraterrestrial friends somehow altered the course of the Asteroid, thereby putting it out of harms way and saving countless lives here on Earth. Footage credit: http://www.nasa.gov/
    Originally posted on another thread but relevant here too

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    From the Electrical Universe point of view:



    Published on Feb 21, 2013
    The recent explosion of a large meteor over Russia caused hundreds of injuries and considerable damage to local buildings—the most destructive such event in more than 100 years. The explosion has also raised new questions pointing directly to the behavior of large meteors in the Electric Universe.

    Here is a simple experiment by a member of the Thunderbolts group, relating to the APPEARANCE of material ejected in the forward direction at 6:22 in this presentation:
    http://youtu.be/DUe7VTnHIXI

    The experiment demonstrates some interesting optical effects of scratches on a transparent surface such as a windshield. A good reason to avoid shouting more exotic speculations as fact, something that has already occurred in Internet comments on the video segment. All fact-based interpretations of the clip, however, will be welcome.

    For a relevant Thunderbolts Picture of the Day, see The Peekskill Meteor: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/200...


    Thunderbolts Project Home: http://www.thunderbolts.info
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thunderboltsp...
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    Electric Universe (Wal Thornhill): http://www.holoscience.com/wp/
    Essential Guide to the Electric Universe: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/eg-co...
    Thunderbolts Recommended Resources: http://www.scoop.it/t/thunderbolts

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    So, to answer the thread's question: Nop!

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    Default Re: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Good thread! Just wanted to mention one other thing this was in the sky just before the meteorite/ object appeared and something hit it. I think this Video makes some valid points. I hope this adds to the discussion here.

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    Exclamation Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite blasting it to smithereens? Conspiracy theorists’ extraordinary claim after new footage emerges


    • Theory is based on analysis of several different pieces of footage
    • U.F.O. watchers claim object seen close by could be a U.F.O.
    • They suggest alien 'guardian angels' blasted rock to minimise threat
    • Reports of a surge in UFO sightings in the Urals before the strike

    The meteorite that crashed on Russia was hit by an unidentified flying object causing it to explode and shatter over the Urals, it has been claimed.

    The bizarre theory is based on analysis of blurry footage of the space rock as it streaked across morning sky above the city of Chelyabinsk.

    U.F.O enthusiasts insist a small 'object' can be seen colliding with the meteorite on its trajectory through the atmosphere, despite the fact there were no reports of Russia launching missiles to down the celestial intruder, they claim.

    Scroll down for video


    E.T. to the rescue? A new picture showing the Russian meteorite and what is claimed to be a U.F.O (ringed)

    The watchers have seized on the unexplained images and an online debate is now underway in Russia with claims that 'we were saved by a UFO', reported the Siberian Times.


    More...


    The meteorite exploded in the atmosphere on 15 February with a force as great as 30 Hiroshima nuclear bombs, causing extensive damage in Chelyabinsk and injuring around 1,200 people, many from shattered glass.
    Alien enthusiasts have have seized on the unexplained images as evidence that 'we were saved by a UFO'

    Estimated by Nasa to have been 55ft-wide and with a weight of some 10,000 tons, the meteor is thought to have exploded above the Ural mountains with a force equivalent to about 500kilotons.

    Nuclear installations in the Urals remained undamaged by the fallout.
    'At first, we also believed that the Chelyabinsk meteorite was just an ordinary meteorite, a cosmic body,' said Alexander Komanev, coordinator for the Russian UFO community in Yekaterinburg.

    But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said.

    This minuscule oblong-shaped object "flies into it - and the meteorite explodes and falls'.
    He stressed: 'Such a number of videos, made from different angles, leads us to believe that something has blown up the meteorite...'
    He claimed that in the weeks before the meteorite, there was an upsurge in UFO sightings in the Urals, followed by none at all since the incident.


    Space rock: The 'U.F.O.' is seen close to the tail of the meteorite in another of the images


    Evidence? Another shot of the Russian meteorite which exploded in the atmosphere with a force as great as 30 Hiroshima bombs


    Proponents of the theory claim there was an upsurge in UFO sightings in the Urals, before the meteorite hit, followed by none at all since the incident

    Footage seen ahead of the incident two 'glowing bowls' seen flying in the sky at night over the village of Chabry.

    Separately in day time, similar objects were seen over Chelyabinsk, it is claimed.

    On both occasions they moved across the sky, disappeared, and then returned.
    Russia has called for major international efforts to develop the technology zap incoming space objects, but there is no suggestion any military strike was made at the meteorite on 15 February which was not spotted in advance.

    Terrifying: Almost 1,200 people were injured when the meteor burst through the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of 46,000mph on Friday, blowing out the windows of 900 schools and hospitals and damaging around 100,000 homes
    Ice hole: Experts said the meteor that left a 50-foot hole in a frozen lake on the outskirts of Chelyabinsk, in the Urals, weighed around 100,000 tonnes and measured 55 feet in diameter


    The 100,000 tonne rock, measuring around 55 feet in diameter, created a huge hole in a frozen lake when it crashed into the ground.

    Scientists have found more than 50 tiny fragments of the meteor, allowing them to uncover information about its contents.
    Divers are believed to have located several lumps of the meteorite in Lake Chebarkul in Chelyabinsk region.

    VIDEO Could this video prove Russian meteorite was shot down?





    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2MIpS85VK
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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    See this thread: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    The so-called UFO is nothing more than some "gunk"/scratch on the car's windshield.

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    Lightbulb Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Dunno if we want to merge all of these threads (Though there are about a dozen of them by now) ,
    This is covered fully here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...758#post642758

    Not to say that this "Topic that will not die" is not important... it is very very important. The posts and threads are so scattered that looking at the data objectively is very difficult. Absolutely NO offense to the OP!
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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Nothing to see here,,,,,,,, move on people. Our Debunker's on Avalon have already Debunked this. We have some talent here.
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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    "But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

    This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?

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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Quote Posted by Ivanhoe (here)
    "But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

    This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?
    Are you sure it's not three different videos of the same footage?

    Go read this thread and get a feel for what pranksters are palming off as meteorite craters: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Never mind the lucrative scams of selling pieces of "meteorites" on e-bay and other similar sites.

    Also, never mind all the other "gunk"/UFO which didn't catch up to the meteor because the cars didn't make a right turn at the right time.
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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    It could be Russian black military projects,we will never know.

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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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    "But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

    This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?
    Are you sure it's not three different videos of the same footage?

    Go read this thread and get a feel for what pranksters are palming off as meteorite craters: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

    Never mind the lucrative scams of selling pieces of "meteorites" on e-bay and other similar sites.
    Obviously I am relying on this persons testimony, but if he really is a serious researcher don't you think he could tell if they were copies of the same video? Seems to me he wouldn't open himself up to being proved wrong if he were simply watching copies of copies without reseaching they authnicity. Just sayin'...
    There's always room for error though.

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    Default Re: Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite? Asks dailymail.co.uk news

    Quote Posted by Ivanhoe (here)
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    ... if he really is a serious researcher don't you think he could tell if they were copies of the same video? Seems to me he wouldn't open himself up to being proved wrong if he were simply watching copies of copies without reseaching they authnicity. Just sayin'...
    There's always room for error though.
    Check Richard Hoagland and others regarding Elenin... they maintained their stance to the last minute... and lost all credibility. Assumptions about other individuals' integrity can be really lethal in some cases.

    In any case, without any evidence nor links to these other two videos, it's all hot air.
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