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    came across this chapter while reading a book today and found it very interesting to say the least:

    A Message from Saturn

    "I AM the first and the last. I am the beginning and
    the end. I am the dread Guardian of the Threshold.
    I come to you with gaunt and pallid face, cold and
    lifeless as the dead. I stretch out my arms as a barrier
    to stop your onward journey. Come, look into
    my dead and lusterless eyes. Look upon my ghastly
    countenance if ye dare! Look me in the face and
    recognize me for what I am; for until ye can meet
    me face to face and know and conquer me ye cannot
    pass.
    I am the Great Initiator. I stand upon the
    Threshold. I am the Great Tester, the glass which
    mirrors back each mortal’s own creations, his
    Dweller which each Neophyte must face and recognize
    before I let him pass.
    I am Saturn the great Reaper. I am he who binds,
    who congeals, who solidifies. I am he that seemeth
    like a corpse; for I am all that is dead and lifeless.
    Look! Look in my dead face and recognize me!
    What do I mean? I am the sadness and the darkness
    and the coldness of death, the fear of which each
    Neophyte must face and overcome.
    The planetary forces that gave ye life push ye
    ever onward and outward on the great Spiral of
    Life.1 Day after day ye are urged farther and farther
    away, onward and outward, until ye reach my
    domain. Here I stretch out my grizzled arms and
    bid ye halt; for I am he that saith: “Thus far shalt
    thou go and no farther.” Not even the forces of the
    gods can pass my domain unchallenged.
    Each planetary force hath carried ye a space
    and given ye of its guerdon of power and wisdom
    and truth until the confines of the Spiral of Life
    are reached. And I, what have I to give? I give ye
    naught. I bid ye face thyself. Here do I meet ye
    and say, “Thus far shalt thou go.” Stand and look
    me in the face! Can ye stand still while thy vitals
    are frozen by my icy breath? For I am the wintertime
    when all is cold and dead. And I must be met
    and passed before the spring can come. Out of this
    ordeal must ye gather the power that binds together
    into an entity all the forces ye have received from
    the planetary gods.
    Are ye proof against my frozen breath? Can ye
    bear to have thine ideals shattered, thine advance retarded,
    all that seemed good and true filched from thy
    grasp? Can ye meet these tests undaunted, seize
    them and turn defeat into victory, discouragement
    into power? Can ye be still and reach my stage
    of calm contemplation while all that ye loved and
    believed in seems to wither and die in thy sight?
    Not until ye have seized from me my weapons and
    gained my power can ye pass this point (Initiation)
    and go onward.
    Think ye there is no reason why I, Saturn, stand
    at the Threshold? at the outpost of life and evolution?
    In the foundation of the universe it was I
    who made the cosmic center and gave the stability
    and inertia upon which the other planetary forces
    might act. Mine was the force sent out in the beginning
    and mine shall be the last to return; the power
    of holding still, of being fixed and immovable. I
    am the dot that expanded into the circle2 which
    contained and circumscribed all that could come
    forth in a cosmic manifestation; the aura of a man;
    that which limits and confines his life-forces and
    prevents them from being dissipated; the measure
    of a man.
    In the solar system the planets are ever sending
    their forces outward into space, and were it not for
    me they would go onward beyond the confines of
    this system and be dissipated. But when they reach
    my domain I stop them and say: “So far shalt thou
    go.” I build a wall about the universe and turn back
    the separate forces and blend them into one. This
    wall creates form and number.
    I am he that bindeth and that is bound with the
    three bands.3 I hold the three forces that bind body,
    soul and spirit. The force of this calm that can bind
    and hold ye must learn; for as long as anything can
    upset and disturb thy calm ye cannot pass on. For I,
    Saturn, am the Guardian of the Portals.
    The planetary gods lead ye down the Spiral of
    Life until the last round is reached and there stand
    I. If it were not for my outstretched arms ye might
    be pushed over the edge of the Spiral into the Great
    Abyss and be lost in the Outer Darkness.4 Yet ye
    must face this Abyss and calmly contemplate its
    depths and lose not thy balance ere ye have strength
    to turn and walk upward inside the Spiral. Then thy
    path is no longer outward but ever inward where ye
    shall feed on the inner Essence of Life.
    The Soul who has dared to meet and face me and
    wrest from me my power and walk upward within
    the Spiral, for him do I gather up all the planetary
    forces and send them back to him as helpers, as the
    dot expands into the circle. “As above, so below.”
    As in the cosmos, so in man. For him shall I no
    longer be Saturn the Reaper, but will be crowned as
    Cronus, God of Time; for he who has reached this
    step is ruler over time. But ye must see the outward
    face of Death the Reaper ere ye can recognize my
    true face.
    Then do I become benign and my power is the power
    of wisdom. But ye must be able to correlate with my
    force before ye can climb the Inner Path. Ye cannot
    pass on until ye have culled from me the lesson of
    stability and the wisdom Cronus alone can teach.
    Then shall ye conquer through discernment.
    I am the melancholia of the world which if not
    conquered leads on to insanity and death. Ye must
    face the world with death, pallid and stark, standing
    at thine elbow. Ye must become as dead to the
    changing tides of the world and of man’s changing
    affairs as though in the grave.
    O sons of earth, like Saturn ye are bound with
    three rings, hand and foot; body, Soul and Spirit.
    These rings are the three days in the tomb.5 These
    ye must break through, and conquer the force that
    binds ye, a day for a ring. These binding conditions
    must hold ye until the very force which bound ye
    is turned into the stability of the indomitable will
    of undaunted courage and unquenchable faith; the
    faith that has touched the confines of life and has
    penetrated its Mysteries. And when I am conquered
    ye will find me Lucifer the brilliant Angel of Light,
    the bright Star of the Morning who shall make all
    things plain unto thee.
    But to know me ye must meet me face to face.
    Ye must see my gaunt arms reaching out for ye and
    boldly walk into those ghastly limbs and tear the
    mask from my dead and frozen face; must warm my
    cold heart with the warmth of thy breasts. Come to
    me and wrench from me the power of Silence; of
    quiet contemplation; of standing still. To know me
    ye must study me and find out my secret.
    I come not to give ye my force. I cannot. Ye must
    wrest it from me in battle. I am the dread God of
    the Threshold guarding all Wisdom! How dare ye
    pass me? I am placed here at the end of things to
    weigh and measure ye all. After ye pass me there
    is no other. Ye are free to pass onward and inward
    toward the Fount of all Light and Wisdom. No more
    can the forces assail ye nor the terrors of the Abyss
    draw ye down; for ye have passed the edge and are
    inside the Spiral and turn back only of thine own
    free will.
    But ye dare not pass me until ye meet me; until
    ye feel the grip of my grizzly hands at thy throat
    shutting off thy life’s breath; until ye feel my icy
    breath on thy cheek. Thus must ye wrestle. If I
    conquer, down into the Abyss ye go, to begin over
    again thy Cycle of Manifestation. But if ye conquer
    I am thy Servant and Savior.
    I am he who was sent out in the beginning, hence
    I am called Lucifer, Star of the Morning. I am he
    of whom it was said, “I beheld Satan as lightning
    fall from heaven.”6 I am the angel of Revelation
    who goeth forth to weigh and take the measure of
    all men. For no man is a MAN until he has been
    measured; until he has cognized my force and has
    gained its stability."

    Realms of the Living Dead: A Brief Description of Life After Death (1919)
    Author: Harriette Augusta Curtiss, Frank Homer Curtiss
    Publisher: Dutton
    Year: 1919
    Copyrighted:no

    http://archive.org/details/realmslivingdea00curtgoog

    Iv'e been drawn to studying Saturn alot lately, this one really stuck out at me...thoughts?

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    Some say Saturn is a Giant Super Computer that runs our solar system.
    "Although I Live On This World, I Choose Not To Live In It"
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    "The answer to every question can be found in nature, if one knows how to look and listen”
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    None shall pass!!!! I am the black Knight.

    You're a looney!
    Sorry,
    Just thinking of Monty Python
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    Is there anyway I can download this book?
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    Secret Occult Of Saturn Worship



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    Haha! Saturn is working with me from here on out, the bastard. He and I will be a good team, once we've sorted out who's the boss.

    If you don't have Saturn as your ruler, you can't know what an unruly horse he is, and how hard it is to hang on for lifetimes by just one trapped foot.

    Still, it's just a mode of transportation.

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    Quote Posted by Silvanus (here)
    I come not to give ye my force. I cannot. Ye must
    wrest it from me in battle. I am the dread God of
    the Threshold guarding all Wisdom! How dare ye
    pass me? I am placed here at the end of things to
    weigh and measure ye all. After ye pass me there
    is no other. Ye are free to pass onward and inward
    toward the Fount of all Light and Wisdom. No more
    can the forces assail ye nor the terrors of the Abyss
    draw ye down; for ye have passed the edge and are
    inside the Spiral and turn back only of thine own
    free will.
    But ye dare not pass me until ye meet me; until
    ye feel the grip of my grizzly hands at thy throat
    shutting off thy life’s breath; until ye feel my icy
    breath on thy cheek. Thus must ye wrestle. If I
    conquer, down into the Abyss ye go, to begin over
    again thy Cycle of Manifestation. But if ye conquer
    I am thy Servant and Savior.
    Well Silvanus, I think the above snippet from your original post is very similar to the description of Hermes/Thoth, with his foot upon the back of Typhon.



    Hermes as the personification of Universal Wisdom, is here depicted with his foot upon the back of Typhon, the vanquished dragon of ignorance and perversion. To the Egyptian initiate, Typhon the devourer of souls signified the lower world which swallows up the spiritual nature of the individual who, being imperfect i.e. out of balance, descends from the higher spheres and is drawn into the physical universe. To be swallowed by Typhon therefore signifies the process of rebirth, from which "man-kind of life form" can only release him or her self by vanquishing his mortal adversary.

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