The Great Dangers of Root Canal Treatment

[Carmody]

I do the waterpik with MMS trick to kill infections between teeth, and down into the gums.

I think that it may also help here.

[GarethBKK]

Pull away! Teeth are over-rated. My liquidizer is my best friend.

Had a very expensive bridge which I swallowed with a cheese sandwich :-(

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

[wolf_rt]

I wouldn't worry about the hole. my upper tooth has moved down a little, but it causes no problems, and it causes me no issues with eating.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do .

[Lifebringer]

Tooth 13 upper, and before I could finish the proceedure because of finances, 3 weeks later it broke anyway. Had it removed. NO problems.

[Abhaya]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do .

So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed? Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.

Wow thanks for all the advice. I'm confident now to get this toxic trap out of my mouth!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Abhaya (here)
So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed?

From what I've read, it's likely that infection from root canal treated teeth will eventually spread out into the bone, yes.

Posted by Abhaya (here)
Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.

I don't know. I suspect that you won't find a published price difference, but that rather you will find it more difficult to find a dentist who routinely cleans out the socket properly after removing an infected tooth, and that such a dentist can and will likely charge more.

[foreverfan]

2000-5000mg of vitamin C daily will get rid of most tooth infections. If you have root canals, this is highly recommended by my dentist friend. I take this dosage since it helps just about everything.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zUpTK5YMt6o

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NqZ0mjPsU1M

[Bill Ryan]

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I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

[DeDukshyn]

I'd get it pulled. If a tooth can be fixed simply and within reason. IMHO a root canal is not a reasonable solution at all - teeth are supposed to be alive - a root canal kills the tooth anyway by cutting off its blood supply. No sense in keeping dead teeth in your mouth. I am fortunate to have good teeth -- and I attribute that to the lack of dentists in my life (all visits in my 38 years can be counted on one hand).

[Abhaya]

I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

[blufire]

Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread. While I do believe all amalgams (mercury) fillings should be removed . . . I had mine removed . . . . I do not believe in the current fad of removing teeth that have root canals in them. If the tooth is causing no pain then leave it be.

I would like to offer a view from the ‘other’ side of this topic, the side of the actual medical dental field. Also, I have three root canals and have had them for around 20 years. My root canals have caused me absolutely no problem, infection or pain.

I worked in the dental field for several years as a dental assistant. I was the one sitting on the other side of the patient from the doctor assisting him in all dental procedures . . . .which included hundreds of root canal procedures. As the assistant I was also responsible for ordering all supplies for the office and laboratories.

The main thing needed to fill the canals of the tooth after the nerve and infected tissue was remove are tiny long slivers of pure silver (99.9 %). These silver slivers were sized according to the size of the canal in the tooth. When the dentist found the best size for the tooth canal I then mixed a type of cement that the sliver was rolled in and this was inserted into the tooth. An x-ray was taken to make sure the canals were correctly and completely filled and then the tooth was temporarily sealed for a wait of about 1 to 2 months, if the patient was relieved from all pain from the infected or broken tooth then the tooth was prepared for a crown and all is well.

There are other alternatives to using ‘silver’ for filling the root canals and I suspect this is the problem for some patients . . . .unlike the silver the alternative are thin ‘plastic’ fillers that are difficult to use and properly insert. Ask for the silver root canal fillers.

I also suspect that for many they do not care properly for a tooth that has had a root canal like not having a crown placed over the tooth or not properly flossing and brushing around the crown which then sets up decay and infection which quickly explodes into major systemic infection when it is trapped under the crown of the root canal tooth. Because the tooth is “dead” you feel no pain and so the infection can fester for years before the tooth becomes so decayed it breaks off. So you body is constantly fighting a low grade infection.

I have noticed and am very surprised over the years of being on the forum how many threads have popped up about the correct way of caring for your teeth and mouth . . . .Illie Pandia comes to mind most recently with infected gums.

Not all dental procedures are bad or a conspiracy . . . .do your homework there are options to jerking out all your teeth.

We are after all a forum the is both spiritual and scientific right?? (banner)

[blufire]

Posted by Abhaya (here)
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

[Abhaya]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Abhaya (here)
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

Thanks for the alternate views. I mean if I could leave it that would be the most ideal. There are many testimonies I've seen however where people have no pain yet but do have a large toxic build up. And have other issues as a result of the toxins mental fog hearing loss and more. I feel like if its out, there will be no chance of any down the road toxic build ups at all.

Also thanks for the advice on the dental school. I guess my post sounded like I was promoting them, and I was excited as it sounded like a maybe a good option. But I was hoping for advice on that too. Being that you were in the dental field, are there some horror stories from the dental schools? Any input would be appreciated

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by blufire (here)
Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread.

Disagree we do, but that doesn't mean that the concerns of myself and others with root canals are rampant disinformation .

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by blufire (here)
I would like to offer a view from the ‘other’ side of this topic, the side of the actual medical dental field. Also, I have three root canals and have had them for around 20 years. My root canals have caused me absolutely no problem, infection or pain.

I had a half dozen root canals, that never caused any pain or any infection evident in the mouth, even to a dentist, prior to being pulled. As I have noted before, there was infection, deep in the socket (not under the crown), which was causing me substantial health problems. I was losing three or four days a month, prior to starting the extractions, unable to get further than my bedroom or bathroom. I was becoming reluctant to schedule appointments outside my home, or to drive, for fear I wouldn't be able to complete the drive without the services of an ambulance (which I can ill afford.)

Extraction of the worst (as seen in the socket, once extracted) of them nearly a year ago now effected an immediate and complete cure of those health problems.

This article responds to the points you make, based on your considerable experience and education in this matter, better than I can respond: Why You Should Avoid Root Canals Like the Plague. It is an interview of Dr. George Meinig, by Dr. Joseph Mercola, reposted on LewRockwell.com.

[blufire]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by blufire (here)
Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread.

Disagree we do, but that doesn't mean that the concerns of myself and others with root canals are rampant disinformation .

Hi Paul,

I have read much of the material that is out there in the alternative media about root canals and I agree and disagree with different points because of not only my own personal experience with endodontics but my hands on professional experience. The alternative information is exactly why I had my amalgam (mercury) fillings removed and had ceramic fillings and/or crowns put in their place. But much of the info on root canals do not ring as true.

I am not in anyway invalidating your experience or any other person that may be having problems directly to or as a peripheral symptom of endodontic procedures.

I only want to offer the ‘other side’. I do want to impress what I said about making sure your dentist or endodontist uses the pure silver (99.9%) endodontic points to fill the canals of the root. See the website links below Also, to fully inderstand how to care for the tooth that has had a root canal.

Dead teeth . . . . .teeth that no longer have a blood supply via the nerve canals to the tooth . . . . are perfectly fine and healthy to remain in the body. They will NOT rot away merely because it is ‘dead’ and no longer has a blood supply.

You may ask what is my proof . . . . look at any skeleton . . . what remains? no matter how old it is and especially if it has been preserved in some manner.

Bones and Teeth.


http://www.pattersondental.com/Suppl...6&vf=&pf=&mcf=

silver endodonic points . . . . the good ones to use . . . ask your dentist to use these

http://www.pattersondental.com/Suppl...3&vf=&pf=&mcf=

gutta percha points . . . . do not use But these are the ones most commonly used.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by blufire (here)
Dead teeth . . . . .teeth that no longer have a blood supply via the nerve canals to the tooth . . . . are perfectly fine and healthy to remain in the body. They will NOT rot away merely because it is ‘dead’ and no longer has a blood supply.

You may ask what is my proof . . . . look at any skeleton . . . what remains? no matter how old it is and especially if it has been preserved in some manner.

True . The hard parts of bones and teeth don't rot.

The bacteria live in the many small spaces within the bones and teeth, which are neither well enough isolated from the rest of the body to not matter at all, nor well enough drained and circulated by the normal body mechanisms (due to the removal of the tooth pulp) to remain healthy.

And, yes, I had gutta percha points, not silver.

[Anchor]

Like so much in life, there is no complete understanding, and there is no proof one way or the other.

Some root canals work and others don't. I have one that worked perfectly, and one that didn't and ended up being an extraction.

In making the final decision about what to do, one must be guided by that still quiet voice within.