The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
Is it possible that this small amount of control I have found can help me to eventually go travelling in 6D?

Also, can you give us any tips as to how to turn the lights on whilst we are there?
(I had a strange sense of sight and depth but in darkness)

And, my main motivation for wanting to have an OBE is so that I can speak with my guides and guardian angels, so which dimension would most easily facilitate conscious communication with them?

(I've seen a man in a white robe with white hair and beard (a stereotype I know) in very vivid dreams on 3 occasions and he communicates with me mind to mind in pure wordless thoughts, I think he might be a guide, but the knowledge just doesn't filter through)
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So I'm going to forget all about the chakras for now and just work with what I know is really there.
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First of all it’s necessary to set up a proper relationship with your HS, before worrying about meeting and chatting with your GAs and guides. Your HS is the real you, after all. What your HS wants is what you really want, deep inside, but sometimes you don’t know it.

Communicating regularly with your GAs is a very rare, very advanced skill. Why are you even worrying about it, when they’re already there doing their job anyway? It could take half a lifetime to develop such a skill, and then only if you are extremely clairvoyant naturally to start with. Communicating with guides is much easier, but can be very dangerous if any of your “guides” is one of your past-life personalities. It can also be dangerous because you can make yourself vulnerable to being influenced by deceptive beings. You only need to listen to you – to your HS. Believe me, the others won’t have any information different what the HS has. (I'm speaking from experience.)

I don’t want to say too much about how to navigate in 6D because I consider it’s very important for a person to find that out for themselves. Otherwise, how will they find their way to 13D? 13D is where you go back to Source.

[TraineeHuman]

Before I continue with some comments in response to some of Awake’s recent posts, I’d like to make some comments about reprogramming techniques, and particularly about the use of affirmations and other hypnotic techniques.

Personally I’m in favor of anything that a person finds is bringing them results. As someone with degrees in psychology and social work and some professional background in those fields, I do approve of the use of affirmations or hypnosis to overcome such problems as e.g. smoking addiction. Admittedly, I find they don’t usually work completely on their own. For example, it’s necessary to find a pleasant activity that substitutes for smoking. Otherwise affirmations, etc won’t make any lasting difference.

I can also believe that affirmations will work well for some people to give them initial experiences of astral travel.

On the other hand, all the meditation masters and gurus agree with me that it’s not a likely way to ever experience Source. I guess a person can come to first experience Source by almost any means, but let me briefly explain why it’s normally considered unlikely – though admittedly not impossible.

Briefly, Source means freedom from programming. So, adding extra self-programming is, at least initially, going in the exact opposite direction. Or, let’s look at the trouble with affirmations. If you make an affirmation that: “I have ten million dollars,” there’s still a voice in your head that’s saying: “No, actually you’re struggling to scrape the rent together for this week.” So, an affirmation involves you repressing that other voice. The trouble is, all you do is push the opposing voice deeper inside your mind-heart. You haven’t gotten rid of it, at all. Eventually you’ll need to face it and thereby remove it. But you can’t do that by any reprogramming technique. To be in touch with Source you need to have cleaned up most of that inner rubbish.

Perhaps I should also mention that not just the spiritual masters but virtually all humanistic or transpersonal or person-centred or post-Jungian psychologists share my misgivings regarding reprogramming of any sort – be it hypnotherapy or neurolinguistic programming (for which we should “thank” Tony Robbins) or the “think and grow rich” type of “philosophy”. Unfortunately, in my experience the rare people who are successful with the latter seem in practice to live by greed with no awareness of its consequences. As a local business “guru” put it: “There’s no good or evil. There’s only outcomes, that’s all.” Isn’t that the kind of thing we at Avalon deplore?

[TraineeHuman]

How does one let the HS in? Awake, my overall advice to you would be to just let the peace and stillness deepen when you meditate. I get it that in the past you’ve (as far as I can tell) tried to kind of repress your thoughts and consciousness. And now you’ve removed that repression, so there’s some kind or other of “organic” movement in that consciousness of yours while you meditate. (Peace doesn’t mean that nothing is happening!) Whatever you’re doing now, it seems clear you’re moving in the direction of mastering your consciousness. Just allow that positive, peaceful consciousness -- which is 6D and higher – to be there, and let anything that interferes with it drop away of its own momentum.

Just stand back, as it were, from your thoughts, and be with the peace. You can also, if you like, call down the mighty higher (D) parts of yourself, or just quietly expect to receive their help.

And the name of those higher D parts is silence, silence from above. And be patient. Don’t get discouraged if you don’t see immediate results – because that would be to blow the silence and go back to where you were at an earlier stage.

What will gradually then happen is that the settled condition of peace in your inner being will come out and begin to take over in your everyday life as well – no matter if you are busy at work, or in conversation, or whatever. Your inner being then feels like your real self, while your outer being starts to feel like something superficial, just an instrument through which your inner being – your HS – acts on life.

I would suggest you forget most of the questions you’ve been asking, and instead wait until this inner-for-outer transformation has happened. If your questions are still important then, I dare say you’ll be able to answer most of them yourself.

[TraineeHuman]

The higher dimensions are experienced as inner rather than higher. For a long time, if my experience when I went through all this in adolescence is anything to go by, you’ll find your consciousness will be split between inner and outer. Clark Kent and Superman. I lived with that for years. As far as I’ve observed, everybody on the road to Source experiences it too. All the way till you finally reach Source.

Up to now, your outer consciousness has been “normal” for you. It has been the stronger influence. It has been able to interfere with or stop your experience of higher states, most of the time – as so many of you have said!

Now – or soon enough -- there comes a point where somehow the inner Superman gradually emerges. At that point you know that the Superman in you is separate from the lazy, dull, petty outer you. But Superman has profound peace, and that makes him free. He no longer identifies with the outer, and he isn’t subject to what it wants.

But the sense of alienation from the life of the outer is hard to take. It took me many years before I really learnt how to bring about “descension”, to bring truth and meaning and bliss into the chaotic and rather meaningless world of the outer. In the meanwhile, Superman was stuck working as a second-rate dull-as-dishwater reporter (well, something else, but the equivalent of that). Actually, of course, there’s another side to the story. You start to discover you have great powers, and great creativity. They only come because the inner you is kind of surrendered to the whole, but in your more “mountaintop” moments they are undeniably there, and you find you can cause big effects around you. Then you go back into a phone booth and change back into the almost pathetic outer you. Or it may seem pathetic to others at times, because they sense that, unlike them, the outer isn’t so important to you, not the way it is to them.

[TraineeHuman]

For the benefit of everybody who feels – as we all often do -- that they don’t have enough time to devote to esoteric exercises and self-enquiry and so on, I’d like to share some details of some of my own life’s experiences. I’ve been kind of obsessed with self-development and spirituality (and creativity) most of my life, since early adolescence. The extraordinary thing has been how much time and money I managed to find to support this huge “habit”.

In the last week I’ve reached age 63, but so far in my life I’ve worked full-time as an employee or contractor 17 years, plus very much as a part-time employee for one year, plus self-employed in my own businesses (usually under 30 hours a week) for four and a half years. And that’s it. No, I didn’t start working at 40. But somehow I’ve managed to “skip” about 15 years’ (or more) worth of full-time work and never go broke.

How? At a conscious level, I guess I’d have to say it’s partly a mystery. But I also know the answer is that getting (often expensive, or very expensive) instruction and development from professionals in these areas was so totally important to me, I subconsciously knew I just had to earn a huge amount of money just to make it possible and keep making it possible. But I never really consciously thought of myself as deserving a very high level of financial reward for my efforts. My focus wasn’t on the money at all. It was totally fixed on my “drug of choice”, so to speak.

No doubt it helped that I had a mother who in my childhood had loved me more affectionately than any other mother. It was quite humorous when my mother got divorced and when I was ten she remarried. My stepfather soon got into calling me “your majesty”, because no matter how he treated me he couldn’t train me out of behaving like I was a king. Not that I ever thought of it that way. As far as I was concerned, I was behaving normally, like any kid. It just so happened that I had been loved so intensely --and yes, unconditionally – that I instinctively felt and knew the whole world was mine.

OK, so you probably weren’t fortunate enough to have been loved and prized so fabulously by a parent. But I would still ask you: How much do you really love yourself and passionately care about the importance of your self-development? How valuable do you fearlessly dare to be?

How did I manage in total to spend as much time during my life just on being trained in self-enquiry and self-development as I did on working? I don’t know. It’s a mystery, and a miracle. OK, I never had any kids to support. But still, it was no accident that I found that much money and that much time, and hundreds of (often) the finest teachers. No accident at all. It was because I had the thirst. Not so much the desire, but just a natural ultra-strong attraction. Have that, and everything else is just details. Don’t have that, and my friend, I suggest you need to discover how valuable and extraordinary you are. You need to learn to like and even love yourself ever so much, and somehow to snap to it now.

I happen to know you can really do it.

[TraineeHuman]

Listening to the “voice” of my HS has been very important to me throughout most of my life.

When you take away or “switch off” everything in the outer you – all the likes and dislikes --, only then do you sometimes “hear” the “still small voice” of your HS. This is because the HS is very subtle, very gentle, very tender. I didn’t say it isn’t powerful, though!

The trouble is, it “speaks” so softly, we often have too much noise going on in the outer to hear its message. Sometimes, too, the HS simply has no comment regarding a situation. For me it has been the “petrol” that has kept me passionate about the most ordinary experiences of life. It has kind of magically kept transforming any day or any activity so that to me it wasn’t dull or alienating.

The other difficulty is that the HS just deals in the truth. But even, for example, in putting the HS’s “message” into words our mind often distorts what’s being communicated. It distorts it because we all at times fail to totally face some aspect of the truth about ourselves or our situation.

To listen or even go to our HS we have to become very sensitive, very vulnerable, very peaceful, very gentle. And it won’t work to carry any identity with us at all, including an identity of being very vulnerable etc. I believe this is the point of the saying, attributed to Jesus, that “unless a person becomes like a little child again, they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.” If you want to “go to” (or, I would say, become more aware of and open to) the HS, let go and be as tender and vulnerable as a young baby.

But do it when you can enjoy peace on your own, like sitting under the shade of a big tree on a hot day. Don't do it any time when you have to deal with sociopathic individuals who are around, as they'll just take advantage of your vulnerability.

[AwakeInADream]

I haven't been able to achieve that 6D expansion feeling in meditation at all this week, but on Monday I did hear my own voice speak loud and clear "I'm not ready yet", and a little while later a female voice spoke using recognizable English words, but without forming a coherent sentence structure. I got the impression that the latter voice didn't have my best interests at heart, but I didn't worry too much about it. Perhaps HS was warning me off 6D investigations, just for that time whilst she was around?

My second meditation that day gave me a small two tone purple blob that got bigger and smaller, perhaps a sign that the lights are starting to turn on?
What followed were a series of scenes (still shadowy, no colour) showing lots of people walking around wide open spaces and cities, and later I got a few more specific objects. One of these was an old style bicycle, but my favorite was a painting on a canvas, done in the style of William Blake, depicting and angel crouching down on the ground, but balancing on his hip toes, and in order to compensate for the weight of the wings on his back he was leaning slightly forward and had his arms outstretched with palms facing down, on the diagonal pointing to the ground. Apart from being a nice looking and well composed painting (that I may try to replicate myself), I think that this image may have been symbolic too, of balancing the human and divine aspects of our natures?

It was like the image below except from the side, and without a beard. Another difference was the wings. Blake didn't often portray angels as having wings.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
I haven't been able to achieve that 6D expansion feeling in meditation at all this week, but on Monday I did hear my own voice speak loud and clear "I'm not ready yet", and a little while later a female voice spoke using recognizable English words, but without forming a coherent sentence structure. I got the impression that the latter voice didn't have my best interests at heart, but I didn't worry too much about it. Perhaps HS was warning me off 6D investigations, just for that time whilst she was around?

My second meditation that day gave me a small two tone purple blob that got bigger and smaller, perhaps a sign that the lights are starting to turn on?
What followed were a series of scenes (still shadowy, no colour) showing lots of people walking around wide open spaces and cities, and later I got a few more specific objects. One of these was an old style bicycle, but my favorite was a painting on a canvas, done in the style of William Blake, depicting and angel crouching down on the ground, but balancing on his hip toes, and in order to compensate for the weight of the wings on his back he was leaning slightly forward and had his arms outstretched with palms facing down, on the diagonal pointing to the ground. Apart from being a nice looking and well composed painting (that I may try to replicate myself), I think that this image may have been symbolic too, of balancing the human and divine aspects of our natures?

It was like the image below except from the side, and without a beard. Another difference was the wings. Blake didn't often portray angels as having wings.

Awake, you are listening to your HS sufficiently well to hear roughly what it wants to tell you. Even though it’s telling you you’re not ready yet to go to a stage where you’re doing more, you’re still doing very well.

You were able to be aware of that female voice in your consciousness, and to clearly recognize that that voice wasn’t truly part of you. Very well done! Can you identify what female that might have been – mother, sister, some teacher, a former sweetheart?

Some of my biggest breakthroughs in getting freedom from my baggage have been where I identified that some major thread of who I had thought was me actually was the “voice” and the point of view of my mother, or my brother, or my stepfather, or a next door neighbour during my childhood, or one of several school teachers. These “voices” go even deeper than cords. They’re normally not “hitchhikers”, but when you unwind yourself from one of them you can see all sorts of parts of what you had believed was “you” fall away; you can see a whole layer of the onion get peeled right off. So, if you can locate that female voice inside you again, identify who it was. Confirm to yourself that that person wanted you to live under their thumb instead of being yourself. (Believe me, some people spend their entire lives subconsciously "being" the identity of one of their parents, or a combination of both parents, and they never know it till the day they die. That's only one reason why it's so important to "know thyself" ever so thoroughly.)

I’ve mentioned before that the HS often speaks to us in symbols. I’m not sure if it matters whether the angelic figure you saw meant your HS or a GA or what. Maybe the important point was that you are receiving direct help from the higher worlds, that there is a real response to your efforts going on from your HS.

I’d like to suggest you might benefit from keeping a notebook by your bedside, and jotting down any details you remember of your dreams, as soon as you wake up. Dreams are always symbolic communications from your HS regarding what things you aren’t fully facing in your life at that particular point in time. For most people, that seems to make it very hard for them to “listen” to the HS’s communication, even though they may accurately record the details of the dream. But it sounds like you’re overcoming your resistance to listening.

[AwakeInADream]

Thanks TH! I have started keeping a dream journal and yesterday I had a dream about a town full of people who were being subjected to a mind control experiment. They didn't realize that they could even leave the town in which they lived and knew nothing of the world outside. Their brainwaves had been altered in an unusual way and it made them all very content and happy, but also they were doing some very strange things as if they were all drunk or on drugs. I was able to look into their brains and I remember the exact frequencies they were set to. Right brain was 300Hz and left brain was at 225Hz, so they were out of sinc, but also impossibly high in the gamma range. I saw some names too but I couldn't remember them, also I saw a whole series of mugshots of people like James Holmes who had committed atrocities, and they all had self satisfied smirks on their faces.

I'm not sure if this dream was telling me anything about myself, or if it was just a commentary on whats happening in the world.

It's funny how I can often remember numbers from my dreams (no lottery numbers though lol), but never anything I've read in words...
(300 / 225 is 1.333333333 which I recognize as a musical interval (two and a half tones) as the 'A' note multiplied by 1.333... is the 'D' note)

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)

I'm not sure if this dream was telling me anything about myself, or if it was just a commentary on whats happening in the world.

Every dream is telling you about yourself.

[AwakeInADream]

Ahh! It's starting to sink in now...The dream was about balance yet again. I keep getting symbols of balance in many different forms.

I'm unbalanced slightly, getting too spiritually 'high' and allowing myself to get carried away. I guess the numbers were telling me to work on my left brain a little more and to be more sensible and grounded. The angel was pointing to the ground too.

It hurts a little when my flaws are realized, but it's all good stuff.

Thanks TH!

[TraineeHuman]

Our higher consciousness (6D and above) is quite separate from the lower consciousness.

I’d like to ask everyone: What do you imagine it would do for you to experience OBEs regularly?

Well, once we know for a fact, for ourselves, that the higher consciousness, the HS, exists, we need to find a way to let it transform our outer being and our life in the physical world – don’t we? Having an experience of some higher dimension, whether through an OBE or meditation, or love or creativity or whatever, doesn’t change our outer being and our ordinary life. I’d like to suggest to you it’s useful, at first, only because it gradually shows us that we have a whole separate other consciousness, a higher consciousness.

Then it’s a matter of bringing the HS into our “inner body”. I’ve said recently that the higher dimensions (6D and higher) are experienced as inner. Strictly speaking they aren’t inner. But they’re no use to us until we bring them down into our “inner body” and find a way to keep them there more and more. From there – from that “descension” – they gradually take over and start to transform our lives.

Getting the HS to occupy the inner being and then to flow to the outer being usually seems to take many years. For many people the first step in beginning to bring their HS into their inner “body” is to keep a dream journal. Or, as in Awake’s case, to find some way to honestly listen to whatever the HS is saying to you this week or this half-week. That isn’t so different from reading your dream journal, provided you can find a way to make sense of the messages your HS has been sending in your dreams.

Once you become used to listening to some of your HS’s messages regularly, it’s not such a big step to start beginning to let the HS inside you.

[TraineeHuman]

Although the higher consciousness is separate from the outer, lower consciousness, at first you don’t clearly feel that separateness. This is because the pressure of the lower consciousness – of your baggage, including your laziness and your desires and your hurts – is too strong. Your lower consciousness keeps interrupting your experience of profound inner peace. It drowns it out.

That profound inner peace, once you have managed to make it strong enough to be stable and established permanently in you, is your HS in a passive "form", and not in its full "form". The full nature of your HS when fully realised, though it is very detached, is active, such as inspiring you and bringing you happiness and bringing you good advice.

So, one thing that requires patience is that you first need to establish that peace in a passive form. Although at that first stage you can still receive some communication from your HS – more clearly than before --, you won’t as yet clearly feel the complete separateness between the lower consciousness and the HS.

Finding out who the heck you are -- and truly being yourself, realizing yourself -- is such a long journey ...

[soleil]

good morning TH, i have a wild question. (i suppose its not that wild) these days have been hard as my daughter has been sharing the bed with my fiance and i. so, my OBE has been on the back burner...instead, i have been attempting daily HS contact, such as a few here - to follow my feelings/intuition instead of my interpretation/reasoning. what i want to ask, is

can a person's body energy/energy body (sensations) be used or perhaps turned into a communication (dowsing) tool. can we learn to communicate or received messaged in forms of energy feelings from our HS? like, left hand throbs or buzzes can be a 'no' and if a right hand is throbbing or buzzing then 'yes'?

is this even a possibility or is this just a wishful thought given our current limitations?

[kintun]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
good morning TH, i have a wild question. (i suppose its not that wild) these days have been hard as my daughter has been sharing the bed with my fiance and i. so, my OBE has been on the back burner...instead, i have been attempting daily HS contact, such as a few here - to follow my feelings/intuition instead of my interpretation/reasoning. what i want to ask, is

can a person's body energy/energy body (sensations) be used or perhaps turned into a communication (dowsing) tool. can we learn to communicate or received messaged in forms of energy feelings from our HS? like, left hand throbs or buzzes can be a 'no' and if a right hand is throbbing or buzzing then 'yes'?

is this even a possibility or is this just a wishful thought given our current limitations?

Hi!
I hope you don't bother if I comment your post....
I don't know the answer to your question but what I can tell you is that communication with your HS sometimes is through feelings or "energy" as you call it and other times you can hear a clear voice with answers or directions. There isn't only one way of doing things and I suppose others here can share different ways of "listening". Sometimes you just get "signals".
I guess anything serves the same purpose. Even a smell can make you evoke a situation that your HS wants you to remember, where you can find an answer or point .
Once you get use to listening to your HS, information comes very very clear. In my case, even with names, pictures o people and places. It is very surprising!
I am certain you will achieve you goals with your HS, because you WANT to listen to it. And that gives you the awareness that is necessary to hear it.

Love to all

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
i have a wild question. (i suppose its not that wild) these days have been hard as my daughter has been sharing the bed with my fiance and i. so, my OBE has been on the back burner...instead, i have been attempting daily HS contact, such as a few here - to follow my feelings/intuition instead of my interpretation/reasoning. what i want to ask, is

can a person's body energy/energy body (sensations) be used or perhaps turned into a communication (dowsing) tool. can we learn to communicate or received messaged in forms of energy feelings from our HS? like, left hand throbs or buzzes can be a 'no' and if a right hand is throbbing or buzzing then 'yes'?

is this even a possibility or is this just a wishful thought given our current limitations?

teradactyl, what you’re talking about is, as you mention, often known as “dowsing”. I once met a man who was president of the American dowsing association for some years. The authorities used to use his services sometimes to find missing children, particularly in the wild, and he seemed to be extremely accurate at that 100% of the time. But his HS had already descended rather fully into his inner “body” and thence his outer body. Very few, if any, other professional psychics seemed to be able to match his level of accuracy.

I’ve seen various courses on dowsing, and they often claim that anyone can learn to dowse accurately from the time they start as a beginner. I’ve observed that is simply not true. It took me many years to learn to dowse with reasonable accuracy. Most dowsing courses do very briefly mention the need for what I call grounding, but they usually don’t give a proper or accurate description at all of what grounding really involves in detail. (I believe I first introduced the term “grounding” in this Forum and its predecessor Forums and clearly stressed how essential it is, though I guess others had also vaguely talked of the importance of being “centered” or whatever. It’s been gratifying to see the spread of understanding regarding that essential practice. Actually I believe I also first introduced the term “fear-mongering” in the old Camelot/Avalon Forums in June 2008. For the first two weeks or so all I got was extremely “anti” comments regarding my view. Then some two or three weeks later, suddenly the great majority seemed to agree with me it was obvious that fear-mongering was something to be carefully avoided.)

The reason I gave people the exercise in #24 was that it gives anybody an accurate and very reliable answer from their HS for at least two seconds, most of the time. Even that answer is in symbols or pictures, but Awake (despite his very positive and aware qualities) is the only person in about a hundred that I have come across who did not immediately clearly understand what the answer they got meant. (Some people initially get a blank doing that exercise. In that case they simply need to do the exercise again and ask the question of what the blank or blackness they got the first time means. I find it always works on the second try.)

As far as I’m aware, if you use your body (or a dowsing rod or pendulum) to try to get accurate answers from your HS, most of the “answers” you get will be misleading, until you’ve established a much stronger relationship with your HS. Consider how remote viewing is really one elaborate variety of dowsing. Even the best remote viewers in the world are lucky if 40% of them agree on anything.

One thing that you might pay some attention to, though, is omens and synchronicities. Frequently throughout my life I used to find it very hard to get certain choices to work. In such cases my HS and my GAs knew the choice was a bad one, and if I wasn’t listening at the time then they would resort to many omens and some synchronicities, until I sometimes managed to take the hint.

Once your HS has descended into you somewhat, from then on it will seem like life around you and the world around you is "talking to you" all the time, giving you feedback about yourself -- as kintun has just said. Years ago, someone said to me that the more spiritually evolved a person is, the quicker their karma comes back to them. Which meant that a sufficiently evolved person wouldn't have such an easy life in one sense, because they'd have to keep dealing fully with the consequences of whatever they have recently done. I guess that's true in a way in this sense that "the world" starts continually giving you little hints, particularly any time you wander off track from what would be best for you at the time.

[TraineeHuman]

teradactyl, there is a type of dowsing that seems to be 100% accurate regarding what's good for your body. I'm referring to muscle-testing, also known as kinesiology. The first book by its original founder, Dr. John Diamond, in the late 70s was called Your Body Does Not Lie.

While muscle-testing seems to be totally accurate regarding whether your body is allergic to something or whether some food is currently healthy for you or not, unfortunately I'm sceptical regarding how accurate it generally is if you muscle-test some thought or idea or choice by holding it in your mind and doing a muscle-test. I suspect that the test result will be positive or negative depending on whether or not you have more positive emotions in your mind, including your subconscious mind, regarding the topic in question. And the trouble is, some of those emotions will be part of your baggage, and not based on "objective" reality now.

[AwakeInADream]

Teradactyl

There is a similar method in NLP which is used to communicate with your unconscious mind, or different 'parts' of yourself, by asking these parts to give you different bodily signals.
For instance they would say "would the part of me that is responsible for ..........(a certain behaviour) please acknowledge by giving a bodily signal" etc., and in this way they would try to bring all of these different parts together in harmony to cooperate and act in the interests of the whole.

I would think that this method may be too hit and miss for HS communications though since it would be difficult to know for sure which 'part' of yourself would be coming through, and it may possibly be a little dangerous, like using a Ouija Board (unless you can recognize for sure which part is communicating).

I would say that the exercise in post #24 (30 second meditation) would be of much more use, as I have found it to be (I've got the hang of it now TH I just had to trust myself in my interpretations of the symbolism).

If you want to know how to communicate more effectively with HS just ask HS and do the post #24 exercise and ask HS "how may I more effectively and clearly communicate with Higher Self?", and HS will tell you. It sure started the ball rolling with me, and I'm sure that it strengthened the link, allowing me now to hear the odd sentence direct from HS in meditation and in dreams.

TraineeHuman

I'm getting more messages from HS now, but I'm also getting a few lower order messages too, possibly baggage from the past. In fact I was meditating the other evening and suddenly I had a loud clear voice (not my own) that insulted me, and the insult caused a shock in my heart. It said something like "I know it's only................but, You Stink!".
This didn't bother me too much, and I'm glad in a way that some of this negative stuff is releasing, but it was a bit of a shock.

Since then I've also seen a woman(slightly familiar looking to me) who was shaking her head from side to side at me, making me feel unworthy.

Also, in a dream HS alerted me to something (in a dream)which may be blocking me from leaving the body.
He said "I'm not sure I trust myself to make the correct moral decisions if I leave my body everyday", and the point was illustrated further by showing me an immature much younger version of myself (in a dream), who started to explain what he would do if he left his body, and he ended up saying "Yeah! I know what you mean". So it seems that there is a part of myself, that doesn't trust myself.

Before this interaction I was dreaming (I think) that I was out of my body, and I didn't have a body and as such I had a harder time moving about. I could go forwards and backwards which seemed to be like a camera zooming in and out, but I couldn't turn to look in any other direction. I was looking down from the sky at a slight angle, and I somehow ended up in the back of a car with my view fixed looking out of the back window watching the road fall away. I think this was more of a practice session in a lucid dream, but it was interesting.

Even though HS is bringing some slightly negative things to the surface, I know it is all to my benefit and so I'm pleased with how this is all going.

TH, would you say that to 'trust yourself' is equally as important as to 'love yourself'?
I think this is what HS is getting at...It's quite a ride I'm having

Edit: It's only just clicked "view fixed looking out of the back window", like one of those nodding dogs. I also think that the 'back seat of a car' is symbolic of me in some ways acting in the mask (or valence as Hubbard would say) of my father who is driving. When I met and made peace with my dad in a dream, I was also in the back seat of a car as he drove. I can't wait to take off all these masks I have.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
I'm getting more messages from HS now, but I'm also getting a few lower order messages too, possibly baggage from the past. In fact I was meditating the other evening and suddenly I had a loud clear voice (not my own) that insulted me, and the insult caused a shock in my heart. It said something like "I know it's only................but, You Stink!".
This didn't bother me too much, and I'm glad in a way that some of this negative stuff is releasing, but it was a bit of a shock.

Since then I've also seen a woman(slightly familiar looking to me) who was shaking her head from side to side at me, making me feel unworthy.

Also, in a dream HS alerted me to something (in a dream)which may be blocking me from leaving the body.
He said "I'm not sure I trust myself to make the correct moral decisions if I leave my body everyday", and the point was illustrated further by showing me an immature much younger version of myself (in a dream), who started to explain what he would do if he left his body, and he ended up saying "Yeah! I know what you mean". So it seems that there is a part of myself, that doesn't trust myself.

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Even though HS is bringing some slightly negative things to the surface, I know it is all to my benefit and so I'm pleased with how this is all going.

In my OP I mentioned the somewhat advanced skill of “seeing pictures”, which includes “seeing faces” (other than those of “guides”). One reason I mentioned it was because such “pictures” occur primarily in 4D. To see them, you don’t need to have your focus fully out of your physical body as you do when astral traveling.

But I considered the skill of “seeing pictures” worth mentioning because as far as I know no-one achieves the descent of the HS without first learning to use that skill. Eventually it becomes possible to ignore those “movies” if you wish. But first you need to be able to see them.

At the end of any such “movie” you are consciously left with an insight. That insight is the key that permanently liberates you from the particular piece of baggage that the “movie” was bringing up pictures from.

Those pictures are accurate visual memories from your past in this lifetime or from some previous lifetime(s). Or sometimes they will be memories from the former life of one of your “hitchhikers”.

I don’t normally watch those “movies” any more. But only the day before yesterday, I was walking over some distance and an insight flashed into my mind. That insight seemed to completely and finally resolve some issues I had had at a workplace eight years earlier. I guess I did glance at some fleeting images from my last two days at that workplace. But mostly my consciousness – indeed, my HS – was changing some of the unhappy conclusions and imagining myself saying what I now realised would have been the right things to resolve all emotional issues from my point of view and also fairly to others.

I see “pictures” any time I physically sit opposite a client in counselling or psychotherapy, or even a friend who is talking about an emotional problem or challenge. Within one minute I’ll see their face change, back to how they looked at some point in the past when they picked up some of the baggage – or as psychologists might say, when they were “fixated” or “traumatized” or “negatively conditioned”. Because I can “run” “pictures”, the face will change again to the person’s face at a younger age, and eventually to a face from a past lifetime, and often some ten or more past lifetimes.

What I do with any “face” is to (completely) nonjudgmentally allow it to be whatever it wants to be. I am effectively working as the client’s HS throughout all this. It’s very similar to Inelia Benz’s “fear processing” exercise, except that her exercise is done on oneself where here I normally do it with a client other than myself.

The reason a person gets “stuck” in the memory of some past incident is because they have never managed to re-view the incident in a very detached way and imagined the negativity in that incident doing its worst to them but this time they observed it failing to get the better of them.

I know that many people happen to visit me at night, usually while I’m sleeping. They do so for some psychotherapy (or whatever) courtesy of my HS. I know that this technique of running pictures happens to be one of the most common ones my HS uses. It doesn’t surprise me that a number of individuals who read this thread have learnt how to “run their (memory) pictures” a little, because a client does soon learn how to do it themselves to at least some degree.

Even the fact that you are seeing a face, say, means that you have already made much progress in shifting whatever baggage is connected to that face for you. It's a somewhat advanced skill, and it gladdens my heart to hear that a number of you are "seeing faces", however weird these may seem to you at the time.

Awake, if you don’t recognize who the woman is whose face you keep seeing, that means she’s either someone from very early childhood or a past lifetime or a “hitchhiker”.

Hitchhikers are very hard to get rid of. This is despite the fact that they are only the personality from someone who is dead, and hence they have no connection with an HS. I once asked one what it was doing, and it answered that it lived in the center of that client’s “heart”.

The only reason why a hitchhiker can have a hold on you is because they have some knowledge or skill or experience which you believe is vitally important but which you feel you’re lacking in. For instance, when I was a young child I decided that genuine spirituality was extremely important. But my father was an atheist and my mother vacillated between being an agnostic and an atheist. And the last they ever wanted to give me any opportunity to develop was my spiritual side. So I pulled in the personality of a Ch’an Buddhist head monk from fourth century China. The only problem was, in the culture and social arrangements of his time the community provided full financial support. It was therefore extremely dishonorable for a monk not to live in poverty, at least when it came to owning any assets. It took me much hard work to loosen that monk’s grip, and to ignore his loud insistence that he knew better. But the key was having insight into why I had invited him in in the first place, and into why I no longer need his advice or talents.

I’ll discuss self-doubt in another post, Awake.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
Even though HS is bringing some slightly negative things to the surface, I know it is all to my benefit and so I'm pleased with how this is all going.

TH, would you say that to 'trust yourself' is equally as important as to 'love yourself'?

The more you get to be in touch with your HS, the more you will appreciate that it is your true nature. And it is God, it is “perfect” rather than in need of correction. You won’t be able to let your HS dwell inside you permanently until you get used to the feeling – not just the idea – that (the kingdom of) God really is fully within you, inside of you. And yes, that means you as you go about your business in this physical world of limitations and flaws and annoyances at every turn.

I have noticed that whenever a person gets to the insight that releases them from some major piece of baggage, that insight always involves forgiveness. But it especially involves the person’s perfectly forgiving themselves regarding the entire episode and that entire side of their (past) self. This doesn’t mean failing to take responsibility. Whatever has to be paid still has to be paid. But I have noticed it invariably involves the person getting to see the whole situation much as how the best attorney arguing the case in their defence would paint things. Given the finiteness and the limitations of life in this world, it’s ever so understandable that you stumbled wherever you did. You are still a perfect, infinite Being, and small wonder that you get clumsy now and then as you have for now been thrust into coping with a finite and imperfect world. It’s not ultimately your fault at all so much as it’s the fault of the imperfect nature of the physical world and the society you live in.

The other thing to note, Awake, is that as you free yourself of one piece of baggage you get served up all the other unresolved pieces of baggage from all your past lifetimes. Small wonder that you may sometimes be low in confidence. Just remember that most others probably aren’t facing their baggage as fully, not in their present lifetime anyway. That may make it much easier for them to be confident – because the inner challenges they have allowed themselves to face have probably been so tiny in comparison to what you are coping with.

But yes, whenever you are in touch with your HS you automatically see that you are very trustworthy, very deserving, very loveable, beautiful even as you are, warts and all, very likeable to yourself, very much accepted by the universe itself.

The funny thing is, it’s your HS that keeps making sure you keep having to face tougher and tougher issues coming mostly from your past lifetimes – until you reach the point where these have all been faced, and much of what’s left for you to face seems to just get easier and easier. Your HS is after all God. No matter that you may not know your HS very well. Nor that you are ultimately your HS, and are just hiding that fact from yourself in some cosmic play of hide-and-seek.