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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Reposting this Steve Richards video from https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post643192





    The other parts of the series are of course worth watching too but I found part 5 in particular very powerful. Approximately half way through it gets to the very crux of our human condition imo. Not easy to digest maybe but it makes a lot of sense to me at least.

    I wonder what your thoughts are on this justoneman, does it sound powerful to you as well?

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    Quote Posted by Gemini (here)
    Reposting this Steve Richards video from https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post643192


    The other parts of the series are of course worth watching too but I found part 5 in particular very powerful. Approximately half way through it gets to the very crux of our human condition imo. Not easy to digest maybe but it makes a lot of sense to me at least.

    I wonder what your thoughts are on this justoneman, does it sound powerful to you as well?
    Needed to be brought back to this - thanks, good timing. I like your approach - direct. I am not in the best health since I came back to Texas a month ago. I came back so my son might not go to prison... and since I have been back, I have gone downhill... the food, the "water," the frequencies, the "distracted" (who are actually just the lost), the overall energies... lots to chew on for justonechewbacca.

    Anyways, Zo and friends always bring me back home.

    Zo be it

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    there is love there too chester, you just have to see it.
    and part of it comes from here.

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    If only Steve Richards would just slow down a little when he speaks, I might be able to actually understand the fascinating videos! So frustrating but I am still "eating it up."

    Chester the Chewwmaster

    That one clip recommended by Gemini is incredible - I hate the phrase -it resonates with me" but it does.

    Now... how do "i" get all these buggers out that "i" have collected through my many lifetimes?

    Strangely, this may mean most of us are killers - wow.

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    Can't wait for Thursday - Thanks "zo" much for the tip!
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    Yeah, there are quite a few places where I don't understand what he says, though I may get the basic idea behind it. That and the fact some of the concepts are pretty mindboggling by themselves make it double hard to understand. It's pretty funny though how he pronounces some of the words like 'hunter' (huddah).

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    I am fascinated by post #1 in this thread; "black meta technology" is something that one of my favorite authors, Michael Crichton, wrote about (PREY).
    Also in the book Hellstrom's Hive, by Frank Herbert, the genetic and chemical manipulation of human beings (more "black meta Nazi tech") has been mastered by a subterranean offshoot of "wild" humans.

    my opinions on "black meta technology":


    ~I believe that the energy grid as established today is responsible for much mental illness -- not only the content of our transmissions but the mode of our transmissions, is making us ill. the media is indeed a mind-numbing experience for many. what happened to the good old fashioned newspaper?? lol.

    ~vaccines, GMO food, chemtrails, water vectors, etc. these factors are all delivery vehicles for "black meta tech". just read about Blue Heron genomics and their synthetic H1N1 contributions. read about Oxitec or Monsanto and you will get a terrible big picture. read about morgellons and think about why Michael Crichton was murdered.
    think about the evils of gene tagging, gene silencing, the manipulation of the very substance of our existence to suit the predators who rule over us.

    ~we may never understand the extent of human manipulation accomplished by the carefully calculated cycles of sacrifice and worship involved in 'black magic".
    as someone who owns (but doesn't understand much) a lot of books on the occult, I believe that it is plain there are two kinds of magic, black and white.
    black magic doesn't care if it uses people as tools or materials. white magic never harms another sapient creature...

    ~some authors tried to illustrate the point of good and evil coupled with the infinite nature of the universe. one of these authors was Madeleine L'Engle, who depicted a universe in which many races exist and interact with each other for the advancement of education and awareness of good and evil in the worlds. there truly is no black and white, only gradients of good and evil, and places of power. I wonder sometimes if L'Engle's star watching rock used by her younger characters was a hidden reference to monoliths and pyramids, other star watching rocks that seem to pass down hidden knowledge that would otherwise be lost to humanity.,..

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    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    I am fascinated by post #1 in this thread; "black meta technology" is something that one of my favorite authors, Michael Crichton, wrote about (PREY).
    Also in the book Hellstrom's Hive, by Frank Herbert, the genetic and chemical manipulation of human beings (more "black meta Nazi tech") has been mastered by a subterranean offshoot of "wild" humans.

    my opinions on "black meta technology":


    ~I believe that the energy grid as established today is responsible for much mental illness -- not only the content of our transmissions but the mode of our transmissions, is making us ill. the media is indeed a mind-numbing experience for many. what happened to the good old fashioned newspaper?? lol.

    ~vaccines, GMO food, chemtrails, water vectors, etc. these factors are all delivery vehicles for "black meta tech". just read about Blue Heron genomics and their synthetic H1N1 contributions. read about Oxitec or Monsanto and you will get a terrible big picture. read about morgellons and think about why Michael Crichton was murdered.
    think about the evils of gene tagging, gene silencing, the manipulation of the very substance of our existence to suit the predators who rule over us.

    ~we may never understand the extent of human manipulation accomplished by the carefully calculated cycles of sacrifice and worship involved in 'black magic".
    as someone who owns (but doesn't understand much) a lot of books on the occult, I believe that it is plain there are two kinds of magic, black and white.
    black magic doesn't care if it uses people as tools or materials. white magic never harms another sapient creature...

    ~some authors tried to illustrate the point of good and evil coupled with the infinite nature of the universe. one of these authors was Madeleine L'Engle, who depicted a universe in which many races exist and interact with each other for the advancement of education and awareness of good and evil in the worlds. there truly is no black and white, only gradients of good and evil, and places of power. I wonder sometimes if L'Engle's star watching rock used by her younger characters was a hidden reference to monoliths and pyramids, other star watching rocks that seem to pass down hidden knowledge that would otherwise be lost to humanity.,..
    I have (for a long time) to the best of my ability cast aside black magic and also so called "white magic." The reason, I see them both as what I call, "intentional magic." Now I am weak and sometimes I can sense my sub conscious regurgitating an act of magic and I do not like that I have been unable to control this to my satisfaction, but when I maintain balance in my life by putting the health of my body and my emotions first I am far more in charge of my thoughts where all this fishy business seems to start.

    When I am in this healthier place, I then allow my emotional body to cast its emotional desire which is always founded both subconsciously and consciously by what we call love which I define in this case to be "a desire to be in positive, right relationship with all and the All."

    I call this "clear magic." I don't have a desired outcome in mind... i only put forth my honest, well intended emotion and then let the universe respond as it will.

    It is amazing what I receive in return.

    I am sad there seems to be few on earth at this time who are at this level of being, but that is just the way it is on earth in 2013.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Found this book 'Secret Societies and Their Power in the 20th Century' by Jan van Helsing (1995) on this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...l=1#post645481

    Having read the preface and introduction and glanced through a bit, it seems to be quite comprehensive in what is going on in the world. Also, it's not written by any kind of (religious) fanatic but from a spiritual point of view and very factually, as far as I can tell.

    That said, this is what prompted me to post this here, from pg. 129 ->:
    CHAPTER 47
    INFORMATION CONTROL

    [...]

    The psychological warfare techniques that were instigated in WELLINGTON HOUSE and perfected at the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE FOR HUMAN STUDIES are described by Edward Bernays as follows:

    The population growth was paralleled by the Illuminati’s efforts in the area of control of mass consciousness. Thanks to the news agencies, the press, newspapers, telephone, radio and aircraft that are all controlled by the Illuminati, ideas and opinions can quickly be spread over the whole country. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the behavior and opinion of the masses is one of the most important elements of the democratic society.
    Those who use these mechanisms are the powers actually ruling the world.


    There can be no doubt about the importance of the role the media plays today.
    Television, for instance, shows clearly how negative messages like the new horror and violent movies influence the behavior of the viewers.

    Predominantly though televison is used to influence opinions about how to think, to act and to look.
    Also is what to have to be “in”, and which political orientation to follow, Hussein is bad, Bush, Clinton and Kohl are good.

    Astrology, the laying on of hands, UFOs and bending spoons are rubbish it seems, but sex movies, football on Saturday night and boozing over the weekend are OK. Most dare not say that quite the opposite is true because others who are brainwashed might laugh at them.

    (Please excuse my harsh words, but the word brainwashed cannot be softened here because after decades of manipulation of the masses – my research had uncovered frightening instances – it cannot be called otherwise).

    The trouble is that today one is ridiculed or looked at askance if one has a personal opinion that is perhaps contrary to the mass consciousness when actually one should be commended for it.

    The seeds bear fruit!
    (This part is really interesting to me. I never understood how the backward messages used in media worked but this seems to explain it a bit.)
    The best example though is the music and recording industry. For decades the listeners have been influenced by “backward masking”, high frequency recording and magic rituals.

    In high frequency recording the message is added at frequencies that the ear can no longer hear but that are still subliminally understood by the subconscious.

    In backward masking the messages are recorded backwards and can again be integrated by the subconscious. If the tapes are played backwards, the messages become audible.


    Some examples:

    KISS (Kings in Satan’s Service”
    Song: God of Thunder
    Message: The devil himself is your god!

    Madonna
    Song: Like a Virgin
    Message: I walk in sin!

    Queen
    Song: Crazy Little Thing Called Love
    Message: To hell with the bible! All I want is magic!

    Police
    Song: Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic!
    Message: The evil have power!

    Rolling Stones
    Song: Tops
    Message: I love you, says the devil.

    Prince
    Song: Purple Rain
    Message: Heaven is about to split open!

    Cindy Lauper
    Song: She Bop
    Message: You are helpless against evil, against the backward playing, Ha ha ha.

    The Beatles
    Song: Revolution No. 9
    Message: Start smoking marihuana, and : Turn me on dead man. (dead man = Jesus).

    Although not strictly belonging to the subject matter, it is interesting to note what in 1962 John Lennon said to Tony Sheridan at the Hamburg Star Club:

    I know that the Beatles will have success as no other band. I know it because for that success I have sold my soul to Satan!

    Few knew about that, true?

    Another interesting example from the recording industry:
    JOHN TODD who claims to be a former initiate of the highest occult power circles of the Illuminati (Council of 13) calls this a satanic organization that wants to institute a world government by any means. Youth above all are the aim of the Illuminati, because – as already Hitler knew:

    Who owns youth owns the future.

    [...]
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    from http://targetedindividualscanada.wor...james-bartley/

    James Bartley
    February 7, 2012 HRC

    most important revelation – “…These concepts and ideas are spawned by the interdimensional reptilians and through the “hive consciousness” and in some cases direct telepathic communication, reptilian human hybrids in key positions within the government and scientific community are directed to implement these changes. Ettish discussed the significance of baby’s milk formula and how the alterations in milk have contributed to the diminished brain power of humans. Ettish stated that scientists who refuse to go along with the various programs designed to oppress the human race are eliminated. Ettish described the progression from the microchipped “smart card” which will contain all of our personal information, to the subdermal microchip implant. He says the public will be manipulated into believing that pin numbers are easily stolen and that the only way to make our personal banking, medical and court information secure is by accepting the microchip implant. The Global Elite’s plan to cull the Earth’s human population by at least 80% is a documented fact. Notorious rep hybrid Henry Kissinger stated this fiendish desire in a State Department memo. We have already seen the bitter fruit of this longstanding agenda in the form of designer wars, designer plagues, a medical and pharmaceutical industry that kills countless people, genetically modified food that makes people ill and a global financial system that impoverishes and starves millions of people. Ettish spoke at some length of the plan to depopulate the human population. Ettish is very matter of fact in his descriptions of the reptilian agenda and its malign influence on the human race. Perhaps the most important revelation from Ettish was the existence of a “Spirit Capturing Net” which was created by the reptilians. The spiritual net is designed to capture the spirits of people with a high vibrational frequency. This is a preemptive proactive effort by the reptilians to disrupt the Life Path of potentially troublesome people. An astral reptilian attaches energy “cords” to the main charkas and energy meridians of the targeted person. When the person dies, the Soul is reeled into a containment system rather than be allowed to continue its spiritual journey to the next realm. The system works as a spiritual barrier. Ettish says the reptilians erase past lives from the Akashic Records in order to force the Soul Entity to make the same mistakes he or she made in a past life or lives. Ettish also says that erasing past lives from the Akashic Records can compel people to endure the same health problems or physical infirmities all over again…” (A Book Review of Susan Reed’s “The Body Snatchers”)

    human-reptilian hybrids – “…The Reptilians are the principal architects behind the New World Order. They coordinate the global changes they require through their alien vassals as well as through their human-reptilian hybrids who have been placed in important positions within the Global Military/Industrial and Political/Financial Complex. It is beyond the scope of this paper to mention in detail how the reptilian leadership known as the DRACOS (who have wings) has managed to surreptitiously control the Human Race. Suffice it to say that this process is not only global but is multi-dimensional and has been going on for a long time. We are involved in all out Spiritual Warfare on a cosmic and multidimensional scale. To apply New Age “Wisdom” to understand the nature of Spiritual Warfare is akin to military theorist applying Napoleonic tactics to the reality of American Civil War battlefields. Marching in lockstep elbow to elbow with your fellow soldiers to close on an enemy breastwork and fire their muskets in a massed volley on command may have made practical sense during the Napoleonic Wars when the range of the inaccurate smooth bore muskets was a mere 75 yards. On the American battlefields of Shiloh, Antietam, Vicksburg, Franklin, Cold Harbor et al these tactics were suicidal. Yet conventional military wisdom held that the tactics and methods of warfare which held pre-eminence during the revered Napoleon’s day, would also apply during an era when the rifled musket was in common usage by both the Union and Confederate Armies. The effective range of a rifled musket was well over three hundred yards. The result was wholesale slaughter for both sides…” (“Alien Civil Affairs Programs”)

    reptilian propagandists – “…By constantly blaming “the military” and the “globalist industrialist” the reptilian propagandists condition the abductees into believing that ALL human institutions are bad and that the only hope one has to reach the chimerical “: next level of consciousness, evolution, vibratory frequency” et al is to look to the skies towards the same dark gods who are responsible for their current state of spiritual enslavement. Never mind that for the most part these “Globalist and Militarist” are part of the same old fraternal orders which worship the patriarchal serpent gods and in many cases are Hosts for Reptilian entities themselves. (We know people who can actually SEE the reptilian image superimposed upon the features of apparent “people” whether the latter are in public or on CSPAN. Some of them can also “sniff out” shape shifting reptilians because they simply don’t smell the way normal humans do. I can feel negative reptilian energy when it’s in my presence and I can tell you that Boylan has abusive and nauseating reptilian energy in god-awful abundance)…” (Rebuttal to a Reptile in Human Clothing)

    James Bartley is an Abductee who has been exposed to high levels of Spiritual Warfare. He has studied in England and Germany. He is a student of Military History with an emphasis on Intelligence- Counterintelligence and Special Operations. James has worked in the Semiconductor Industry, the Telecommunications Industry and in County Government as an Ombudsmen. James also worked for the Civil Service at a major military command in an Intelligence related capacity. He is a former business owner. Bartley: “…I consider myself a Christian, however I have an implicit belief in Reincarnation. The two are NOT mutually exclusive despite what the religious dogmatists would have us believe. No two people were as well versed with the Old Testament or the New Testament as Edgar Cayce and General George S. Patton. Yet both believed implicitly in Reincarnation and had extremely detailed past life memories…I have had personal encounters with non-human life forms in my home, in my car and on board alien craft after I had been taken “onboard.” But the ET experience encompasses far more than just face to face encounters and UFO sightings. The ETs routinely conduct “dream hacking” and create “stage managed dreams” while we are sleeping. Some of these dreams can be highly symbolic in nature or could be efforts at indoctrination and/or training. An abductee could wake up from such “dreams” and feel compelled to tell the world about the wonderful benevolent ETs who are bestowing upon him knowledge and wisdom. This creed is fortified by numerous alien inspired synchronicities…There is not enough quality research being done about reptilians, the ruling reptilian-human hybrid elite and the Reptilian Overlordship in general. Likewise there is not enough research done on Milabs or the various and sundry ways ETs utilize abductees. There needs to be more written about the deep black interaction between non-human entities and human military/scientific/medical personnel. If 90 % of all UFO researchers stopped researching, we wouldn’t miss anything. Most researchers don’t even see a connection between UFOs, Aliens and the reptilians in particular with the New World Order. Some researchers and abductees have been manipulated into promoting the New World Order without even realizing it…” (Whale)
    A hellish nde with description of soul containment units, false reality simulations and reptilian jailors...

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    The video appears "gone" now. EDIT: - video was there, it was my "ad-block" software that caused my issue.

    Is anyone else able to see the above video?

    Thanks, Houman, for a comprehensive post - a post that essentially sums up much of this thread.

    Thanks, Amzer Zo, for the suggestion to procure LRHs "Self Analysis."

    I received the book Thursday.

    One comment... I know I can't be "attached" to the outcomes of any other person but perhaps myself. At the same time, I have a difficult time not attempting to help in any small way I can another. I do this by sharing my experience and my successes.

    I have noted that the more one attempts to relieve themselves of this "dark energetic overlay" and all the various actors involved, the more that energy seems to turn up the heat. Regardless, I will never stop trying to find the most releif possible and I will never stop my efforts to help another, especially those who truly wish to find relief as well.

    Thank you (again) for this thread, Houman.

    Ohhh and as to your post two posts above. I find everything in that post true or at the very least, quite believable. I also find no other view of the matters facing humanity that "feels true" nor presents the possibilities that finally make (albeit insanely so) sense of this totally nonsensical world.

    My those spirit beings who truly seek permanent relief, find it.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    When we consider the information in this thread -

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Robert-Duncan

    Is it possible for us to consider that with weaponry such as has been pointed out in this thread, that all the conclusions of all the research done by Dr. Malanga could be intentionally created by folks behind this technology?

    I am not trying to be a thread wrecker... but now that I have found this information and consider it all against 48 years of an experience with what I came to believe was one or more "entities"... "voices in my head" - a voice that told me about 9/11 in advance, etc. I have to take a step back now and reconsider everything.

    Totally, completely mind blowing.

    And the good news is (at least for myself as well as my family) - I am not angry. I feel to have survived this has been quite a feat.

    Of course though, I am probably still quite exposed. So I have to wonder how I might be helpful for others... One thing is certain - I must stay completely off all drugs and alcohol and anything that might weaken my resolve, my ability to implement my own, sovereign will.

    It is so weird knowing about all this. It is like I am faced with having to choose what person (amongst the many that I have been) do I want to be exclusively and continuously - so people can size me up, assess their risk with me and make an accurate assessment.

    Truly quite mind blowing if there is anything to it, huh?
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    After a night of sleep it is ever more clear that it has been this very technology I have been subject to. I feel bad about "wynderer" more than ever.

    see this post by Christine (I was part why wynderer went bonkers)

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post541586

    Yes, she was still drinking and yes she probably had a problem with it, but I played a role in her demise and if we are honest, one thing she said over and over is that we are putty in their hands due to their vastly superior technology.

    So I went from thinking the voice in my head was "god" (ever since I first started hearing it which I can recall all the way back to near 1975 when I was 18) to when I found this thread and for the last 10.5 months I thought it was just the voice of one or more entities, specifically "Horus-Ra" type entities verified by massive synchronicities to this specific entity and to associations of this entity, some of which are massively messianic.

    And now I finally understand that yes, there is one or more "Wizards of Oz" behind the curtain and some of those could be fellow human beings and/or fellow human hybrids as well all other types of entities including thought generated creations that take on a life of their own yet have no "soul." And so what then is a soul in the first place? I am no closer to knowing than I ever was.

    BUT! All this and yet I have had a remarkably peaceful day. I don't feel that ... how do I describe this... that nervous, emotionally charged energy like I used to do when considering all these possibilities.

    I feel a strange sense of peace now.

    I wonder if they will allow me to continue to live? Because I will be talking all about my experience and I will be speculating about what is behind it all. This will not stop. Count on it.
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    Quote those could be fellow human beings and/or fellow human hybrids
    You're losing me Ches, am I not understanding?

    The point of the thread, is that if there is a being (human or otherwise) behind the curtain, what motivates him/her/it?

    It's [this thread] an answer suggesting that something EXTERNAL to an individual "human" is at the very least putting anti-human-life ideas in someone's head, to feed off whatever the soul is and/or creates.

    It suggests the "Horus-Ra" entity, but to me that is just a limitation of our language/information/experience with it...that is just the oldest and supposedly most "pure" knowledge (the gnostic writings on the archons) to use as a marker or something most people can relate to...the other closest idea that most here can identify to is Castanda's fliers...are you getting hung up on semantics, or am I not getting the point of your posts?

    Almost every discussion on this site is about whether there is truly an external force, archons, whatever, or if it's really just us (our psyche, original sin, humans being "evil"--I guess as a genetic mutation).

    Heh...you can tell by my examples the side I'm leaning toward. Participating in this thread actually demonstrates it as well. If in fact every idea presented in this thread contains lies &/or deliberate disinformation--it doesn't change a thing about the essense of the problems--cuz then WTF is planting this "weapon" or doing the mind control demonstrated in your musings?

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    Quote those could be fellow human beings and/or fellow human hybrids
    You're losing me Ches, am I not understanding?

    The point of the thread, is that if there is a being (human or otherwise) behind the curtain, what motivates him/her/it?

    It's [this thread] an answer suggesting that something EXTERNAL to an individual "human" is at the very least putting anti-human-life ideas in someone's head, to feed off whatever the soul is and/or creates.

    It suggests the "Horus-Ra" entity, but to me that is just a limitation of our language/information/experience with it...that is just the oldest and supposedly most "pure" knowledge (the gnostic writings on the archons) to use as a marker or something most people can relate to...the other closest idea that most here can identify to is Castanda's fliers...are you getting hung up on semantics, or am I not getting the point of your posts?

    Almost every discussion on this site is about whether there is truly an external force, archons, whatever, or if it's really just us (our psyche, original sin, humans being "evil"--I guess as a genetic mutation).

    Heh...you can tell by my examples the side I'm leaning toward. Participating in this thread actually demonstrates it as well. If in fact every idea presented in this thread contains lies &/or deliberate disinformation--it doesn't change a thing about the essense of the problems--cuz then WTF is planting this "weapon" or doing the mind control demonstrated in your musings?
    Hi donk, I believe (and Houman can correct me) that at least one of the goals of this thread is to explore the Satanic Ritual Human and Animal Sacrifice practice and the abduction by what may be aliens of physical form or 4th dimension form (as well as complicit beings/entities from other realms/dimeniosn) and how those two connect as one all encompassing overall phenomena in hopes those who suffer from its impact (which many believe is all of humanity to some extent) might achieve relief by raising our awareness (one of Houman's recommended solutions, then we should also open mindedly explore the various possibilities as to what may be behind the phenomena). Raising awareness is achieved by discussing the phenomena.

    Because I have experienced directly many of the symptoms depicted in this thread and have somehow managed to retain my sanity and in fact have emerged more sane (those who know me would say), I feel I am reasonably qualified to explore the various possibilities as to what may be behind some if not all of this phenomena. I am only hoping to contribute.

    I am not alone, either, in possessing concerns some of what we are experiencing is intentionally placed in our minds through technology which is held by fellow humans as well as what some here call the human/reptilian hydrids much of us believe make up the tippy top of the Earth's current ruling elite.

    If these speculations of mine are not on topic, I would be surprised. If someone reading them has issues with any part of these speculations, perhaps there may be something to it and perhaps those who bristle might see this as a signal to look closer at their own experience. I have found that to be true for myself at least.

    Quote Almost every discussion on this site is about whether there is truly an external force, archons, whatever, or if it's really just us (our psyche, original sin, humans being "evil"--I guess as a genetic mutation).
    All I am suggesting is that we open our mind it could be one of, some of and even all of the above.

    At various levels of each spirit being's psyche could be complicity to some extent. From that could come these various thought form generated beings as well... these are also discussed in this thread. I don't believe I (nor we) will be able to easily come to an either or type conclusion - its far too complicated at this level. At the top? An "evil demiurge" and the abused "Sofia"? Maybe so... I see an applicable metaphor there, but literally? I don't know. I do know I don't close my mind to anything. Take Care donk! Your friend, Chester
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    Yesterday, quite by 'coincidence', I bumbed into a Finnish blog about abductions and other topics very much in line with this thread: Horus-Ra, SIMBAD, Corrado Malanga, Eve Lorgen and so on. Turns out the author is an abductee themselves who has succesfully applied the SIMBAD method and got clear of the abductions.

    Guess who the person is?

    I dont know if I should post the address here publically, but if anyone's interested I can give it by PM at least. The blog is in finnish though.

    EDIT: Since it's probably not as obvious as I first thought it would be, I'm referring to Maarit (in the thread title) here.
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    Christian academy student shoots parents in head after grounding from video games
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    Topics: Nathon Brooks

    A 14-year-old student at a Christian academy in Washington state has been charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting both of his parents in the head after they restricted him from playing violent video games.

    Grant County prosecutors on Monday said that they were asking that 14-year-old Nathan Brooks be tried as an adult for the attempted murder of his parents.

    According to a Moses Lake police report obtained by iFIBER One News, Nathon Brooks had considered killing his parents, 38-year-old Jonathan Brooks and 39-year-old Elizabeth Brooks, since the age of 8. He had recently been been grounded for two weeks from using “electronic devices” — including playing video games — and had been punished with detention for being late to class.

    Nathon Brooks had admitted to police that he had been obsessed with video games.
    “He said he quit playing violent video games because he thought they were making him more violent,” Moses Lake police Sgt. Mike Williams noted in the document. “I asked him how much he played video games, and he told me ‘24/7,’ up until he got his electronics taken away.”

    Nathon Brooks indicated that he had decided to shoot his parents after his mother told hi[m] he was “meeting the definition of insanity” by disobeying over and over again. He said that his parents had been angry after he recently took one of their credit cards.

    On Friday, Police believe the boy pried open a gun safe to retrieve a .22 caliber pistol. After listening to music for about 90 minutes, he decided to kill his parents.
    “He said he was rethinking it, but said ultimately the voice telling him to do it was louder than the one telling him not to,” Williams wrote. “He said he just heard over and over in his head that he would be able to do whatever he wanted if he killed his parents.”

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    From http://www.henrymakow.com/:

    Illuminati Jews Still Covering for 1980's Satanism
    March 13, 2013

    In the 1980s, the McMartin family, who operated a preschool in California, were charged with hundreds of acts of sexual abuse of children.When the trial ended with no convictions in 1990, it was the longest & most expensive criminal trial in American history. Hollywood and the mass media portrayed the case as mass hysteria over imaginary Satanic ritual abuse.

    Indictment: The McMartin Trial, rebroadcast on Hebrew Box Office Wednesday, casts the abusers as the victims: John J. O'Connor, writing for The New York Times: "This is a portrait of mass hysteria, fueled by panic-stricken parents, overzealous prosecutors, irresponsible talk shows and an out-of-control tabloid press..."Is Indictment balanced? Is it fair to the other side? No. As [writer] Mr. [Abby] Mann puts it, "What other side?" Watch it and shudder."

    The film is cited as a watershed in the shift of ideas about satanic ritual abuse in the United States, recasting [McMartin teacher] Ray Buckey as a victim of a hysterical conspiracy rather than a child abuser.

    Bob Constantine: "Oliver Stone, took to the bandwagon with a film made for HBO, written by Abby Mann, theorizing that hysteria in Manhattan Beach CA was kindled when one child returned home from school one afternoon with "a red bottom" -- this would be the son of Judy Johnson, and he hadn't been spanked -- he was bleeding from the anus."

    Read this article in conjunction with "Incest Survivor Exposed Illuminati Satanism" - We have a pattern of satanic ritual abuse practiced by Illuminati Jews and their cohorts, and covered up by the mass media. In essence, the Illuminati Jewish mass media has indoctrinated Americans to believe satanic ritual abuse of children is a figment of parents' imagination.


    By Bob Constantine
    McMartin Preschool Revisited (edited & abridged by henrymakow.com)

    But why should certain members of the corporate press, and segments of the legal and psychiatric professions, go to such lengths to suppress evidence of organized child abuse at McMartin?

    The traumatic crimes reported by the toddlers bear an uncanny resemblance to mind control programming, a specialty of certain classified federal agencies and cult cut-outs on the black budget payroll.

    The children are often ridiculed because some of their charges are impossible. Tunnels under the preschool? Too ludicrous to consider. But as it happens, there were tunnels, confirmed in 1993 by a team of five scientists from leading universities. The unearthing of the tunnels, like much of the critical evidence, never made it to the courtroom. They have been discreetly excluded from newspaper accounts.

    Filling the void, Debbie Nathan, a widely published [Jewish] skeptic of ritual abuse, heaped ridicule on the tunnel allegations in the Village Voice in June 1990. She maintained the McMartin site had already been "painstakingly probed for tunnels. None were found." Nathan's account is a fabrication.

    In fact, recalls Dr. Roland Summit, who contributed to the final report on the tunnel excavation, parents started digging and prosecutors, reluctantly forced to a showdown, "commissioned a superficial search of open terrain." District Attorney Ira Reiner [Jewish] then declared the tunnel stories unfounded "without going under the concrete floor of the preschool."

    "Experts" courted by the press snaffled at the suggestion that animals were killed to frighten children at McMartin and other preschools around the country. It was not until 1993 that a study by the National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect confirmed that children are not only threatened in day care settings, "most threats are very specific in terms of what the consequence of disclosure will be and how the threat will be carried out.... The use of such severe threats is obviously quite frightening to young children and is effective in preventing disclosure. In fact, it appears that threats used in day care center cases may go beyond what is usually needed to silence victims, and may in some instances be made for purposes of psychological terror in and of itself."13

    Most reporters in Southern California pooh-poohed evidence of coercion, but there was a great, gaping silence when the tunnels were found. "I asked my daughter," recalls Jackie MacGauley, a mother of two children who attended the preschool, "'How could they have taken you to these places without being seen?' And she answered me as though I was silly to ask such a question. She said, 'Through the tunnels, of course.'"

    The Los Angeles Times ran a spate of features poking fun of the excavation team until actual evidence of tunnels was discovered. Then the Times ran a brief news item, one paragraph long, dryly noting that "evidence" of tunnels had been found, and never mentioned the subject again. The local Beach Reporter covered the story without a blush: "parents began to dig with shovels, allegedly in an area pointed out by a nine-year-old former student of the McMartin preschool, who told them to dig behind a cement planter in the northeast corner. When parents unearthed several broken turtle shells and a few bones, they stopped digging and notified the district attorney's office."15

    Once the entrance was exposed, Stickel used remote sensing equipment to read the terrain conductivity of the empty lot next to the preschool. The survey was conducted by a respected geophysicist, Robert Beer, working with an electromagnetic scanner. The tunnel opening was found precisely where children said it would be.

    That's the moment editors at the Times chose to pull reporters off the story. All other news outlets rapidly followed suit. But the excavators cleared the foreign soil and followed the tunnel anyway...

    A total of 77 animal bones were found buried at the McMartin site, an assortment of the osteo-remains of domestic cattle, chickens, dogs and a single rabbit.17

    However, Debbie Nathan, left, the hide-bound "skeptic" of ritual abuse, a scion of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, told another story. The McMartin site, she insisted, had already been "painstakingly probed for tunnels" by the D.A.'s office. (Not so, as we've seen). "None were found. [The McMartin] parents have invested years believing in demonic conspiracies and underground nursery tunnels. (Until recently the parents were still digging. They came up with Indian artifacts)." No mention of Bynum's independent findings. No mention of the dig as it happened in the real world. She reserves much of her scorn for former FBI agent Ted Gunderson and Jackie MacGauley.

    Nathan seems not to realize that Gunderson and MacGauley brought in Stickel and his geological team to defuse accusations they were directly engaged in the dig. They weren't. The search for the tunnels was independent, and scores of volunteers pitched in.

    Nathan's refrain of "no evidence" is hollow. She has been known to contort around the facts of ritual abuse in a grotesque parody of journalism and is frequently blind to critical evidence. Nathan continues to find "no evidence" of abuse at McMartin despite the nightmares, the acting-out, medical molestation reports and sexual infections. The tunnel excavation, she assures with psychic certainty (and a sniff of condescension), is a "hoax." To come to the point: Nathan's propaganda, repeated in the New York Times and a host of other corporate publications, happened to conceal a classified mind control operation the CIA and Pentagon had undertaken thirty years before....

    ----

    Feb 5/2004

    THE MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL CASE WAS NOT A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My daughter attended the McMartin Preschool 20 years ago. She was 2 and a half. She is now 22.

    In the Spring of 1990 a group of parents gained access to the preschool property and decided to look for tunnels the children had described. Many children said they were taken into tunnels under the school, abused, and transported away from the property into the community.

    I still live here in Manhattan Beach.

    There were hundreds of families who filed police reports and 42 families whose children were chosen to testify.

    I hired an archaeologist and he and his team uncovered 3 sections of tunnels directly under the preschool building foundation. The fact that tunnels were found was reported in the news.

    A year later I commissioned a formal report. I arranged to pay the archaeologist $3,000 to write the formal report, $1000 in donations, $1000 from Gloria Steinem and $1,000 from me.
    I contacted many publishers. No one would publish it.

    Technology has changed since then and publishing is not the major expense it used to be. I have had copies made at my own expense and sent them out on request, but I cannot do this on a large scale.

    I am disabled and have no other income than Social Security. I had to file bankruptcy in 1993 because of a carpetbagger X FBI con man who embezzled $30,000 from me.

    Since then the group False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) has said "there are no tunnels." This false statement is repeated often by anyone researching the trial.

    THIS REPORT NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE!

    Hundreds of children are being called liars. This untruth is used DAILY to "prove" children are simply LIARS. It is used to set pedophiles free!

    Sadistic (ritual) abuse DID happen at the McMartin Preschool!

    If you are a parent or someone who cares about the safety of children, please contact me about getting this report published!
    I don't want to make money on this. I just want the truth out there!!! Please copy this plea and distribute it widely.

    Thank you for your help!

    Sincerely,
    Jackie McGauley

    Interview with Jackie McGauley

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    ShinAr' / Juatonewookie.. thank you
    admire your interactions in this thread immensely.. they portray rare insights and will resonate with some of the experiential understandings of others, such as myself, also.

    Your respective journeys with AD/HD and bi-polar have informed your 'gnosis' in ways most of us don't s readily access.. impressive that you both recognised being on the same energetic level before sharing about those 'diagnostic labels'.

    here is my intrasubjective response to your posts:

    An interface with 'other' a source of mystery
    open, raw, real.. no fear, no duality..
    ebbing and flowing between the shadows of the 'known' and the places where the unknown dwells

    Lives in their own chords of continuum
    interface in the space between
    dance to a co-constructed song
    a concert of spheres of being
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    Nice recap! Good stuff

    Ches...I think there's a disconnect on what I was getting at.

    I was just saying your post made it sound like the options (which I agree with), if we may lay them out this way:

    A internal
    B external
    C both
    D none of the above

    I think any post relating any of these options are not only valid, but completely on topic. I feel like the the initial post's leaning toward B allows for any of the options...houman may correct me if (as I probably am) wrong.

    Anyway, that has nothing to do with my post either. Just wanted to clear that up. My post was simply surprise at a post from you (who I "know" and can relate to and read nearly all your stuff) sounded real A-heavy (to the exclusion of the other options) in that particular post, which was surprising to me.

    In other words, I didn't exactly get your post, or found it a little outa character (at the time I read it) which was a kinda red-flag that I needed clarification.

    Ya feel me brah?

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