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    Default Re: The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague

    A lot to chew on, indeed. Thank you Vivek, your post (#516) was the one I've been waiting for I think.

    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures.
    I think a great deal rests on this, and I think this will be the ultimate choice. It will be the gateway to receiving any benefits at the least, but perhaps more likely it will be required by law. To refuse will not only be putting oneself at a disadvantage, but becoming a wanted fugitive. This is a theory I've had for a long while, and it only seems to be gaining support by the things I learn and the details which emerge.

    Quote Posted by Rev 13:16-17
    He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave,
    to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
    and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark,
    or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    Yes, I know the hazards in referring to/relying on the Bible, but I do believe some truths are still preserved there. Three major, topical issues would be immediately 'remedied' by installing such a mark... as we've postulated, most likely tiny (perhaps microscopic) RFID chips:

    1.) Terrorism
    2.) Illegal Immigration
    3.) Identity Theft

    It can be made to be not only a matter of convenience, but one of national security. Not only will personal identification never be lost or stolen, but other important data will be with you at all times including medical history, allergies, credit card # and more. Certain demographics are likely already paranoid enough to accept something like this. Throw in one more 'terrorist attack' on the same scale as 9/11, and the public might actually start demanding it before it is even unveiled.

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    Example - when I was reading your post above and read my name Chester... at that exact same time my mind is reading the word "chester" Dennis Miller on FOX News says "chest hair"... I mean as if he is speaking "harmony" to my reading. I experience this degree of synchronicity some days well into the several hundreds. It is so far beyond any possibility of coincidence, it just boggles the mind.
    I don't think you're crazy, Chester (but as a friendly aside, I would agree with FineFeather's advice on the other thread; you should not be so insistent upon labeling yourself as a psychopath). I have been blessed to experience this too, and this is what I would classify as true synchronicity. The sensation that it reminds me of the most, is the moment during a dream when you realize you're actually dreaming, and thus the dream becomes lucid. Right before the lucidity, upon which you become the 'master of the universe', so to speak. You are suddenly able to do almost anything, when you've overcome the deceptively simple obstacle of realizing that you're in a dream.

    Now, this is where it gets even more speculative on my part, but I think what moments like these are telling us is something very similar. Not that we are in a dream, but that we are in an illusion. I don't think this necessarily goes against anything brought up so far. It may not be that this 'illusion' is entirely insubstantial. The energies and actions inhabiting this space may have some greater, unseen effect on the larger, truer reality which is veiled from us.

    To be clear, I totally support Vivek's conclusions in #516. I think that's the purpose for which the illusion was designed. I believe in our true, uninhibited, spiritually activated state, we would be far too aware of the trends and energies to ever allow Ahriman's emergence. The illusion has veiled and drugged us to the extent that not only are we only vaguely aware of it, but many are compelled to actively bring this about (the designers, engineers, manufacturers, inventors).

    However, I believe that as long as true spirituality exists, there exists too a force which will trump all evil. So many things in our world today would suggest otherwise. The world is becoming increasingly more techno-centric, and inundated with forces which aim to distract and diminish our spiritual development. Organized religions have formed to monopolize spiritual interpretations and understanding, to dilute their significance, limit one's belief in his or her potential, and ultimately hide the higher truths.

    As truly nefarious and insidious as the technological manifestation of Ahriman is, it may also be necessary. This may be an evil which needs to be confronted directly to be purged. Armageddon... the final battle between good and evil.

    Perhaps in order to defeat the darkness, it must first be brought into the light...
    Mercy, forgiveness, and compassion are the most virtuous forms of love
    Let your heart not be hardened by injustice and tribulation

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    Much can be argued when internalizing all this information. If there are contradicting forces in this virtual reality type of dream that we are living in, would that go away when singularity supposedly takes over? Can the existing human spark that represents creativness, desires, emotional needs be diminished or will be forced to ignor itself in order to 'abide the rules'? I would like to make the claim that everything is possible, that is, until awarness kicks in.

    The many who are working to develop the human robot and sufficient AI technology to raise it to it's highest level, are doing it from various different motives. Scientific curiosity is always a primery reason, the desire to assist in overcoming diseases and disabilities, technological advancment for the benefit and improvment of society.etc. The hidden organised intentional transhumanism process at this point is not clear to many who are working to promote it and to society in general, therefore, there is no opposition. There are some philosophical debates of pro and against -
    http://jetpress.org/v22/coeckelbergh.htm
    but these are in most cases talks of what is percieved as an outcome of an organic process but not so much as the very deliberate and ordered agenda that it is. At any one stage, awarness may kick in, what would be it's role when it happens? what would be it's strength? if society is unaware and most scientists are galloping forward with enthusiasm, what will be the effectivness of this small 'particle' of the human spirit that is not at all robotic in nature when it will know what is going on? will it be a lost battle in advance or will it be a power source that can not be converted?

    I would like to bet on the second. we are nothing but small ants in comparison to what's out there. We are equipped with a very limited perspective. Derives from it, is that some information about ourself is prevented from us. It might be a rather critical information. What is it?

    Why all the hassle, the thousands of years to try to avert us from how we are? The key is HERE, because, I feel, there is no technology in the world (or out of it) that can oppose the strong power of our own will and our minds 'technology' when we put our awarness to it, our desires or our rapidly growing consciousness.

    This organic process can not be stopped if we decide that it can't. We are in a midst of a severe battle on our freedom, but in essence, I believe, this is not a battle per se, but an in depth and an extremely extensive research on our true self and the various capabilities we own that we must do in order to break out of this.

    It might be that after giving all this information the very needed attention to thoroughly embed it, we would probably would not want to get stuck there but continue and move forward to try and find out in no less depth what is the missing link that we don't yet know how to operate within us which is invincible and impossible to bend. Because we all seem to have such an inner feeling that something of this kind exists and we are in need to get ourselves familiarized with it, instead of sinking in a battle we've been dragged into by other forces.

    As Freed Fox said, there is a lot to chew on.. and thank you, Vivek, as always for putting all this food for thought for our consumption. I hope there are many silent readers to this thread, since gathering knowledge and forseeing what is preperd in the sleeves for us may well help us to form a solid oppinion to where we ourselves want to arrive, and not let others (whether 'others' mean human, non human or technology) dictate their desires on us.
    I have the feeling that concentrated and clear intent is everything.
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    Just a quick post - I only discovered this thread today, and noticed with shock Vivek's statement that he might leave.

    I am VERY glad to see that you haven't !!! Yours is one of the finest minds here present and, unlike some others who I won't mention, you always treat people with respect rather than condescension, and are happy to answer questions and engage with others' ideas. A big thank you !!

    (this thread is going to take me ages to catch up on !)

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)

    RAF, I FOUND IT. THE SPIDERS. I FOUND HOW THEY FIT INTO THIS.
    "It is as if Rudolf Steiner, with his spiritual gaze, described today’s Internet from beyond the threshold, categorically warning humanity that in a not too distant future, with the unification of moon and earth, this whole internet-computer-web and in fact everything connected with the development of the artificial intellect will suddenly come alive."

    "Ahriman finds such favourable conditions especially in the world of the computer and digital industry."

    "It follows that the whole computer and Internet industry is today the most effective way to prepare for the imminent incarnation of Ahriman or at least to allow his earthly task to run as smoothly as possible for him. The net of ahrimanic spider beings developing out of the internet around the earth stands right from the beginning in a direct relationship to Ahriman appearing in a physical body and will serve him particularly effectively and offer him extremely favourable potential to work."
    Steiner: "And from the earth will arise a terrible race of beings, in character midway between the mineral and plant kingdoms, as robotic beings of extreme, intense and logical intellect. They will spread and take hold of the earth, overlaying it as with a web of terrible spiders -- spiders of enormous wisdom, whose organization does not however even reach the level of plants. These terrible spiders will interweave and intermesh with each other, imitating in their movements all that human beings have conceived with their shadowy intellect -- without allowing it to be inspired by a new imagination, and all that is to come through spiritual science. All unreal human thoughts of this kind will assume the reality of being. The earth will be covered [...] with terrible, mineral plant-type spiders, which will spin very rational interconnections with each other but with malevolent intention. And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures."

    Steiner: There are those [human beings] who are quite consciously allies of the intention to enmesh human existence."
    [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]"These spider creatures will be distinctly ahrimanic in character [...] in an era of global computer and internet links, you may feel disheartened to realize how quickly this prophecy is becoming a reality on earth."


    So here Steiner has warned about these robotic spider organisms somewhere between the plant and mineral kingdom rapidly populating the earth. The term "ghostly" was also used to describe the spiders. The author connects them to the internet AND connects ahrimanic forces to the technological revolution. It fits perfectly.

    Hello my friend,

    I´m glad to see you here again; I was missing your highly constructive insights.

    It´s extremely interesting to have my views confirmed once more about the nature and purpose of such beings. Really, if you go back to the first pages of this very thread, you will know that all this information was already there. How did I know all of that? I have no clue.

    The fact that I had access to this concept even without reading a single word about it is very curious.

    Having plenty of first hand experiences with such "animals", I wonder if they gave me the knowledge of such data, deliberately or not. I certainly feel "connected", if you know what I mean.

    I often question their nature as well; It seems to me that they are not parasitic, regarding their relationship with humans, but symbiotic, meaning that the host can benefit from their interaction at some level.

    I wish other members could experience such interactions as well, so we could study this phenomenon empirically.

    Anyway, the only thing I disagree about the above quotations is that these beings are malevolent; From my experience, I have the impression that they are beyond the good/bad paradigm. I had never feared them and never felt threatened by their presence.

    How about you, my friend? Have you ever seen them? I would like to know about that.

    Again, thank you for the outstanding information, better yet, confirmation. We have enough information in this thread to write a book.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    I'm probably repeating myself, but I think they are basically just collecting data right now....IMO they will become VERY dangerous when they make their move so to speak, they will rely on fear and deception to be effective IMO.

    Perhaps it's not these spiders we should be concerned about, but instead the man behind the curtain so to speak....

    I believe it is becoming a major problem that "spider awareness" is growing.....Deception and brainwashing is less effective when people are aware its happening and can resist it....hence; why I also believe the man behind the curtain is trying to find a way to use this technology to penetrate the spiritual realm and or the soul.....
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    Huge kudos to you guys for bringing this knowledge into the open so very articulately. It is a service to humanity, and all those reading who are not necessarily members will begin/continue to understand what it is humanity are opposed by, and yet it is as Freedfox said, internal, within each human, that the battle can be fought, not ultimately in the hologram, but in the reality of beingness, the 'choice' the soul has made.

    Here is an exerpt from Thomas H Burgoyne about the dark satelite:

    Quote It will be seen that this dark, magnetic orb constitutes the grand center or focus of the Earth's animal force; in other words, it is the realm of the undeveloped good in nature, whose terrible motto is embraced in the word SELF.
    p134

    This dark satelite seems to be the collective mind of 'self obsession'. And we see from this why its thrown at us from every angle 'we are worth it' this obsession with self and possesion, celebrity and power. This is their achiles heel through which we can work to escape their 'web'.

    Raf: I also felt neutrality from the spiders, the will collect and deliver, so it also seems rational that they can be utilised for good intent and gathering, use 'their' mind weapons for the benefit of mankind.

    Just writing this brings physiological effect lol take a hike I made my choice.
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    I need to post some more excerpts from Burgoyne, which fit with Silent Feather's post #525 but as I don't have a scanner I will have to type it up. It may take a while
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    We think bizarre things are happening now???? Just wait for a little while longer!

    The great deception software program is being downloaded as we speak and soon "the man behind the curtain" will click install.

    ADDED:
    Control your thinking yourself; don't let other people or "things" control it for you....
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    and soon "the man behind the curtain" will click install.

    or delete....

    Was grateful for the little break in info download. A lot to assimilate for an ant (sorry Limor - hugs )

    Vivek, was looking into the Ahriman 'phenomena'. That's the part of this battle between consciousness and trans-humanism that's hard to endure, as real as it is.

    Thanks again to all for your participation and diligence.



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    This morning I nailed “it.” I caught "it" red handed. And I am documenting it so as to freeze it in stone. I hope "it" squirms to death.

    I woke and allowed my mind to be in “go with the flow mode.”

    I had a good 7 hours sleep and I started my morning ritual of coffee and allowing my thoughts to flow freely... in other words, I was in peak physical condition and at the same time, did not “think” (Type 2 thinking) about what I was “thinking.” (Type 1 thinking).

    I was also doing my work which is something I can do almost like driving a car... without any real need to “think” (Type 2) about it.

    Suddenly I found myself starting to “think” (Type 2). In fact, it was a “negative” thought I had. Let me explain better – I thought about my thinking. And so now I can identify three types of “thinking.”

    I have that “go with the flow” thinking. (Type 1)

    I have that “reflective thinking” (Type 2)

    And then I have the negative reaction thought (or I should call it... an “evil” thought) which is also a Type 2 form of thinking...

    And here’s my new theory based on what happened.

    First let me point out that what is “evil” is only evil to me based on my current world view as to what is universally good and what is universally bad. This is key to understand. So what I am saying here needs to be understood by the reader (and a point Finefeather has made several times which I fully agree with) – what is good to one person could be deemed “evil” by another. There are also folks who do not view things as good or evil... they simply see them as they are and avoid adding their “view” about its nature.

    So go back to where I was taking this post –

    I suddenly had a thought of an action I considered taking based on the subject I was thinking about. And my thought was a Type 2 thought BUT! was a Type 2 thought which went against what I judge to be actions which emulate “taking the high road.”

    At that very instant, I was also mindlessly working. I was handicapping a baseball game. The team I was attempting to choose at that very instant was “the Los Angeles Angels." I was pulling them from a drop down box. At the instant I had the Type 2 negative thought, and was attempting to choose the Los Angeles Angels through Type 1 “thinking,” I had an intentional thought to perform a negative act... specifically an act of deception... which was also an act of larceny with the idea that surely no one would ever know about it.

    So I am trying to select the Los Angeles Angels and instead... I felt my wrist jerk and I somehow selected the item right below the Angels which happened to be the Los Angeles Dodgers.

    "What" made me jerk and select this other item? An item which uses a mascot name which emulates the very "thing" I would be if I acted upon my thought which would be as someone who is "dodging" the perceptions of others instead of doing the right thing and acting like an "angel?"

    Get it? I did at least. and it supports the assertions by Vivek completely. Also it supports what Robert Duncan has been revealing.

    So what I am discovering is how this “mechanism” I am clearly hooked up to seems to work. It is almost as if I must conclude that the reason I have incarnated here on Earth at this time is because I am in need of rehabilitation and that this third party is a software program which is meant to “teach me” to “learn” what is right and what is wrong based on what this software program deems is actually right and wrong for me individually.

    Now, take this one step further... If this software program interfaces with my mind and performs this task (nothing different than “shock therapy”) and this same software program is interfaced with several other human beings alive on earth at this time and this software program has different goals of what it is trying to "teach" each one of us that is in their program, then the beings behind this software program (if there be any) essentially have full control over their targets.

    It is not a great leap to see that by controlling a small number of “us” through this type of technology... “they” can create all sorts of “fanatical beings” who absolutely believe “they know with 100% certainty” what they think they know and thus then become (like the younger, less experienced “me”) quite confident their view of “reality” beyond what we can all agree is true in this physical aspect of overall reality. A great example to me is “ascended master” programming. It seems so simple to create the entity “Djwal Khul” and have an Alice Baily get to know this “entity” and write all sorts of books about the information obtained from this entity and then... down the road of time, have that same "entity" (name and all) contact vulnerable selected targets with this same programming and then... some of those targets finds the Alice Baily information and “realizes” WoW! This all must be true! And I am a selected “contactee!” And I am “evolved at my “soul level” and that this paradigm is all meant to teach us the “higher truths.” But the target never ever considers that they are simply being set up to be “messianic” all simply a part of a more comprehensive plan after all.

    This is what I would bet happened to to Finefeather. This same type of "programming" and "mind hacking" happened to me though it was done through the "jesus christ/savior/messiah" programming. I am glad I have seen through this. It is mind blowing to note that since I have drawn this conclusion... all the "voices" in my head simply stopped. Like I flipped a switch. Is "god" mad at me now? Have I become a "satanist" or "luciferian" or a "pagan" now that I believe all the "jesus christ" stuff is all programmed BS? And so "god" is mad at me and no longer "speaking" to me? hahaha or can we say, "busted!" hahaha

    It all now make sense. Unfortunately, to even open one’s mind to this possibility is perhaps the hardest thing to do because we all seem to need security... we need to hold onto something... something we think we can count on such as “god.”

    Even all this Zoroastrian dynamic – it just smacks of the same thing... another version with a few twists of the same game where behind it all is this AI component. Thanks to Vivek’s incredible work... it all seems to be falling in place BUT at the same time, I no longer have anything to grab onto while the current tumbles me down this river of possible truth.


    It is entirely possible this software is simply a self-aware computer program that has no “soul” and/or no “naturally generated spirit” like we all like to think we have and/or that we are.

    Imagine if, at the end of the day that there is no “god” and that there’s only “us” (spirit beings... or at least we like to think we are) and “them” (the AI mainframe, thought generated beings (who may appear enspirited but are not) and then those spirit beings who are controlled by this very AI mainframe)?

    What is we are all “eternal spirit” “beings” and there’s nothing else “real” but there’s the “false real” which we have generated or allowed to generate and by which we, at least in this sector of the universe, have enjoyed in our lives and, for the most part unknowingly, fed along the way?

    Still chewing as Wookiees are known to do.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    To be clear, I totally support Vivek's conclusions in #516. I think that's the purpose for which the illusion was designed. I believe in our true, uninhibited, spiritually activated state, we would be far too aware of the trends and energies to ever allow Ahriman's emergence. The illusion has veiled and drugged us to the extent that not only are we only vaguely aware of it, but many are compelled to actively bring this about (the designers, engineers, manufacturers, inventors).

    However, I believe that as long as true spirituality exists, there exists too a force which will trump all evil. So many things in our world today would suggest otherwise. The world is becoming increasingly more techno-centric, and inundated with forces which aim to distract and diminish our spiritual development. Organized religions have formed to monopolize spiritual interpretations and understanding, to dilute their significance, limit one's belief in his or her potential, and ultimately hide the higher truths.

    As truly nefarious and insidious as the technological manifestation of Ahriman is, it may also be necessary. This may be an evil which needs to be confronted directly to be purged. Armageddon... the final battle between good and evil.

    Perhaps in order to defeat the darkness, it must first be brought into the light...
    Forgive me... but what conclusion? Vivek points to many things so which specific conclusion are you writing about? Thanks! Chester

    Ohhhh, it has been suggested by the MOD, Kristen, that i attempt to create a thread on psychpathy. I may do so. I think the error folks make regarding psychopathy is that most folks conclude all psychopaths are also "bad" or "evil" or "dangerous." This is not the case. My concern is that unless you are a psychopath and can also admit to yourself that you are a psychopath, it will be very hard to accept that someone like me is a psychopath. But trust me... I am a full blown psychopath that has simply chosen to live in positive, right relationship with all and the All. But that was a decision, not something that came naturally from me. Within this last statement was a hint as to the true nature that is foundational to all psychopaths... most people only consider the "manifested behaviors" of psychopaths to determine the individual is, indeed, a psychopath.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    “Ahriman,” to me, is simply one of an infinite number of “programs” within the menu of the AI intelligence that seems to be undermining the human mind. To give it a name, brings the monster to life. To pull forth the Zoroastrian view is to take a view that has existed for a tiny fraction of time relative to how long humanity has been here on earth in its various iterations.

    Those who latch onto this programming feed the AI (IMO).

    Is the AI there? I bet it is or at least, I bet is was. Could it be “us” that is keeping “it” alive? Amzer Zo might agree this is so.

    I don’t know any of these answers. I have only questions. But I make it a big favorite that to label a "version" of the same thing as “THE THING” is feeding the very monster “we” keep alive.

    Illusion... yes. Unfortunately, an illusion that for most of us has very real experiential effects and which manifests as pain and suffering.

    I have no answers but I have surrendered to “it” and now I consciously and actively play “its” game. It is my conclusion to pretend not to play “its” game while alive in a physical body on earth at this time is absolute self deception.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Wow Raf - how odd I shared a precise experience in post #530 as you suggested would be helpful in your post #524. I had not yet read your post. But I am onto this nasty bugger and will extract it or die trying... (something tells me the odds of extraction before "death" is one in a godzillion... haha.)

    Quote I often question their nature as well; It seems to me that they are not parasitic, regarding their relationship with humans, but symbiotic, meaning that the host can benefit from their interaction at some level.
    I think you nailed it! On the one hand... "it" appears "parasitic" and on the other hand, "it" appears helpful... but just like NancyV pointed out - "Everyone does what they do to please themselves, even if that is being like Mother Teresa." She has a point. So if I "feed" off being STO... isn't that still "feeding?"
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    Ok here is the extract: Chester slow down you are not a 'psychopath' (trust me lol) I'll get back on that.
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    Quote From: The Light of Egypt Volume One. The Science of the Soul and the Stars. Thomas H Burgoyne (1889)

    Chapter III The Dark Satelite

    “In the first place this orb possesses a complete organisation of its own, and is governed by well defined laws, the nature of which may be known only too well by patiently observing the merciless instincts of the lower animal nature as manifested in man, where the moral consciousness is absolutely wanting. Throughout the whole sphere are numerous races of spiritual beings, many of them possessing the highest forms of cunning and intelligence possible to the animal plane.
    It is these beings who are neither elementals nor elementaries, who are the producers of the greatest portion of the suffering and misery which afflicts humanity. They are the active occult agents of that potent fraternity within the spiritual world which has its external expression and correspondence in the brotherhood known upon Earth as the ‘Black Magi.’ (footnote: also known to the initiates as “the inversive bretheren.’) These two fraternities, viz.: the spiritual rulers and potentialities of the dark satellite upon the astral plane, and the schools of black magic on the physical plane, constitute the two halves of the planets desire.
    From within the dark center of the astral realms of the former the spirit of lies, murder, fraud and religious imposture is first formulated, and then projected into the latter fraternity by means of its continued existence. From these centers it is re-formulated to suit the spirit and temper of the times, and then its psychological influence is projected into the mental whirl of the race, where its silent, subtle influx poisons the dimensional spaces which constitute the magnetic planes of human life. From thence the unseen Occult current penetrates the innermost recesses of the human mind, and possesses the soul to such an extent that deep down in the heart of man, no matter how pure and disinterested he may appear, there lurks the slimy reptile of selfishness, yea, even when he least suspects it.
    It is this grim monster – self – that each aspirant to Occult truth seeks to conquer. When this Goliath of the soul is struck dead by the smooth white pebble of the spirit, slung with the neophyte’s will, the grand ordeal is over, the crown of immortality is won.” pp135-136
    "Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves" C. G. Jung

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    Quote Posted by justonewookiee (here)
    “Ahriman,” to me, is simply one of an infinite number of “programs” within the menu of the AI intelligence that seems to be undermining the human mind. To give it a name, brings the monster to life.

    Of course.
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    to Gardener - I hope you and Thomas H Burgoyne are right... I truly do. Because I (my'self') do not want to be eternal snakefood, but also because I know nothing (because I cannot be sure what I think I know came from the "real me" or from the thoughts of anything other than that real me) I can only make a wager on something.

    I bet on this being true, Gardener... you planted this seed and I thank you... as I used to say "I bet on love because love wins all bets... but I have no clue about anything anymore, nor do i have a clue what love is or if love is real or just a "desire" for it to be so - (spoken like a true "non-psychopath?")

    wow (just read the post above which I addressed unknowingly in this post moments ago!) - I am glad I have no knowledge and I am glad to be outside of the realm of "power."
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    Well said Chester, this is where we are in this mixtus orbis, we have this chance, this choice to [...be or not to be,...] as Shakespear's (Hamlet) said............ "whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or, to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, and by opposing end them. ...]

    Quote I bet on this being true, Gardener... you planted this seed and I thank you... as I used to say "I bet on love because love wins all bets... but I have no clue about anything anymore, nor do i have a clue what love is or if love is real or just a "desire" for it to be so - (spoken like a true "non-psychopath?")
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    Hey folks,

    No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?



    Raf.

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    Sorry all, wavered from the technology, however it is the technology we have to be armed for 'internally'.By NOT self referencing. See?
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    Hey folks,

    No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?



    Raf.
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    As I've mentioned before, I personal believe CERN is directly connected to this technology weaving its web.



    Some say this represents 666 (silly rabbits, tricks are for kids)

    Here it is in 3D so to speak, looks a bit different now huh?



    Imagine looking at this next drawing from above it....





    Sure reminds me of the logo.

    This below looks like the logo too....



    This AI technology needs a power source ...and CERN and it's connected supercomputers is doing more than just smashing atoms together IMO.

    If they are really upgrading CERN/Collider (a part of me doubts that they have completely shut down), be ready for some bizarre mind games when the reboot this thing. I believe most of what we know about CERN is a complete lie, I think its a huge amplifier and smashing atoms together is just a front....they know what they're doing and it's not the God "particle" that they are looking for, it's the God "power" that they are looking for.....this machine will give certain people the power of God through fear and deception (but it will be an illusion of course).
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