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    Default I dont think there is reincarnation.

    There is only one life that we get. Our soul waits in the heaven until its time for us to be born. Once we are born our life is watched by the spiritguide to determine if that soul is worthy to return to heaven. That not everyone will make it back to heaven. There is no other lives that we live. There are no past lives.

    We dont choose to be born, we are forced to come into life and the life that you get is determined how you lived in heaven. I think that there was once free will in heaven but something happened that changed that. The good or bad life that the person gets is irrelevant though, its the choices, actions, thoughts, and intension of the soul that will show its true nature and whether it is a good or bad soul which was impossible to tell while the soul was in heaven. This is why a soul must be born on earth, to show the true nature of that soul.

    Someone with a bad life can do good and someone with a good life can be bad. The spiritguide who watches the soul is there to help them but if a soul is bad the spiritguide might actually push them to do bad stuff to ensure that they will not make it back to heaven.

    I think reincarnation is a false belief that was created because man was lost searching for the truth.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    I appreciate you saying "I think" keep an open mind, I think differently about this topic, but I dont currently "know" I just think things.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Dear AMystic, As they say in Alcoholics Anonymous, "keep coming back"... my best to you Amystic

    sincerely, Pam

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Quote Posted by RUSirius (here)
    I appreciate you saying "I think" keep an open mind, I think differently about this topic, but I dont currently "know" I just think things.
    I also think differently about this topic.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Quote Posted by northstar (here)
    Quote Posted by RUSirius (here)
    I appreciate you saying "I think" keep an open mind, I think differently about this topic, but I dont currently "know" I just think things.
    I also think differently about this topic.
    Sorry read it wrong, thanks my friend.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    it may be possible AMystic. But IF so i would rather chose to explain it this way:

    There may not be reincarnation, but because there is an increasing number of people believing there is, just that can make it exist.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    It is my understanding that what ever you believe you create. I personally expect to continue in a subtler form- but probably I will occupy a different space after my earthly demise . I wish you peace.

    Do read "Letters from a living Dead Man", it is quite an exciting read- I first read this book in 1980's I could not put this book down, and read it in one sitting

    Here is the book if you would like a good read. http://www.spiritwritings.com/LivingDeadMan.pdf

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Wow. Hope you're pulling our collective leg!

    If not, how do you explain the thousands of people recalling past lives in graphic detail, like this one?



    The Jehovah's Witnesses would love to have a chat with you. Their God is more than happy to judge people to eternal life or eternal destruction based on one life regardless of what situation they were born into.... and whether or not they sold enough magazines and books

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Reincarnation in itself has diverse beliefs within that particular heading. If we just take reincarnation to mean that we live again we will find that belief around the world. Reincarnation has been largely purged from most christian sects now but in the early years both the Jewish and other christian people believed in reincarnation.
    As of today the Bible, the Talmud and the Zohar say we live again.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    If the Vatican tries to cover it up, it is undoubtedly true.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

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    Wow. Hope you're pulling our collective leg!

    If not, how do you explain the thousands of people recalling past lives in graphic detail, like this one?



    The Jehovah's Witnesses would love to have a chat with you. Their God is more than happy to judge people to eternal life or eternal destruction based on one life regardless of what situation they were born into.... and whether or not they sold enough magazines and books
    The JW's or any one else in the christian, pseudo christian realm that preaches eternal anything from the Bible can only do so if they manipulate the text through translation methods.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    I also have a different "feel" about our souls. Began to read "Letters From a Living Dead Man" very exciting book, still reading.
    You have a right to your own journey AMystic3434, but don't settle on your final beliefs jut yet, we might be ALL in for quite a few more surprises. Don't forget to enjoy the ride.

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    Post Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    My earliest memory-from way before i could articulate words properly, is of myself as a grown man lying in a bed, clean white sheets, in a white tiled room with an amber light suffusing the room, there was a kindly bearded man leaning over me, speaking softly, comforting-I was obviously passing. This memory has haunted me all my life; i don't know if it 'proves' anything but it has made me think a lot-and it has given me an open mind on the subject!

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    If you don't want reincarnation to exist, it won't, for you.

    The best is to remain open.

    I wonder what you think about Aliens from outer space. This seem to me much far fetch compared with reincarnation. Yet, I remain open.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    I also have different beliefs. I do believe in reincarnation, I have remembered. I believe we keep coming back to learn the lessons we need to know to become a higher soul. I also believe everything we learn is taken back to the creator.

    Keep searching and keep learning. I will.
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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    My wife believes there is no such thing as man flew,i tend to disagree

    The point to this the only true wisdom is in knowing we know nothing.Interesting why you think that though.

    Whether or not we believe in survival of consciousness after death, reincarnation, and karma, it has very serious implications for our behavior when we speak of these things.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    IMO:

    Brainwaves and thought patterns (consciousness) remains forever embedded in the fabric of space and time, ones essence so to speak, a record and impression (footprint) of their existence. A fingerprint so to speak of consciousness remaining forever.....A cosmic record of thought/consciousness (a map) of a souls travels....a unique dot on Earth of ones journey place at a certain time.

    Perhaps when people tap in to these energies and/or memories of others from days gone by, they mistaken them for their own memories and consider them "past lives" that they have once lived??????

    (I personally don't believe in reincarnation although I do have certain "memories" that I can't explain. I believe they are most likely not my own though and must be someone else's)
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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    Reincarnation exists. Aliens exist. Wheather you want them or not. YOU, cannot think something out of existance.

    Only Source... and Me... can think something out of existance.

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    It's all in the DNA. At least, that seems to be a good possibility to explain this phenomena.

    Sci-fi legend Phillip K. Dick referred to this as phylogenic memory.

    Here's an excerpt from his Exegesis:
    We appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all the other life forms, there is a malfunction - a failure - of memory retrieval.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VALIS
    It gets the gears going ... come back and re-read that excerpt after you finish reading this post. It's pretty wild.

    Our genetic code carries with it more than just the instruction sets for building proteins. Around 97% of it is non-coding.

    The idea is that some of this non-coding DNA is literally a recombinant of written history that details the genetic lineage of our ancestors. It is a language that we used to know intrinsically; it is hardwired into our very biology.

    Your biology is the summation of all of those that lived before you that shared some of that DNA.

    Every experience you have is recorded by this DNA. That's probably not the best way to say it ...

    Maybe the methodology is similar in concept to the motion capture systems used in computer animations.



    Okay, so instead of a couple dozen markers, imagine having around 20 trillion markers (the DNA in the body). These markers don't just record motion, they are also influenced by the electromagnetic energy in the environment around them. Additionally, they may be affected by the interplay of energies we don't completely understand by means of conventional science.

    Each human has this system of 20 trillion markers that is with them their entire life span. Each human is unique. DNA acts as a transceiver as well. So, moment to moment, we are beaming the instantaneous state of our physical being somewhere. A continuous stream of information about our life is being holographically transcribed onto something -- imprinted. Maybe onto the aether. Maybe into some energetic layer of the Earth's upper atmosphere. I really don't know.

    The point is that the "tune" of every body's life transcription would be slightly unique in the same way that their DNA is unique to them.

    Now, it could be that the recombinant non-coding portions of your DNA are very similar to some body that lived in the past. In this way you can tune into their life. This ability wouldn't be possible if you didn't share some fragmentary portion of their genetics. In this way you are connected to who they were. You share a part of their DNA. Not only theirs, but others as well because you biologically exist as a quilted patchwork of the DNA before you. They also biologically existed as a piecemeal of the DNA of their genetic ancestors.

    You are the sum total of the experiences that this DNA has undergone.

    Now that's cool.

    You may have little fragments here and there of one kind of life or another. Maybe you share a lot with a particular lineage and can remember entire lives. Maybe it boils down to how well you can tune into it -- your DNA.

    Rupert Sheldrake has some great ideas regarding morphogenetic fields that may shed some light on this too.

    From Wikipedia:
    The hypothesis is that a particular form belonging to a certain group, which has already established its (collective) "morphic field", will tune into that "morphic field". The particular form will read the collective information through the process of "morphic resonance", using it to guide its own development. This development of the particular form will then provide, again through "morphic resonance", a feedback to the "morphic field" of that group, thus strengthening it with its own experience, resulting in new information being added (i.e. stored in the database). Sheldrake regards the "morphic fields" as a universal database for both organic (genetic) and abstract (mental) forms.

    That a mode of transmission of shared informational patterns and archetypes might exist did gain some tacit acceptance when it was proposed as the theory of the collective unconscious by renowned psychiatrist Carl Jung. According to Sheldrake, the theory of "morphic fields" might provide an explanation for Jung's concept as well. Also, he agrees that the concept of akashic records, term from Vedas representing the "library" of all the experiences and memories of human minds (souls) through their physical lifetime, can be related to "morphic fields", since one's past (an akashic record) is a mental form, consisting of thoughts as simpler mental forms (all processed by the same brain), and a group of similar or related mental forms also have their associated (collective) "morphic field". (Sheldrake's view on memory-traces is that they are non-local, and not located in the brain.)

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake
    Furthermore, this idea is discussed a little more than half way through this post here.

    Lastly, regarding DNA and memory ... It is interesting that mainstream science is now exploring the ideas and methods of using DNA for computation and memory storage.

    From an article entitled, Are we ready for DNA-based computer memory?
    First came floppy disks, CDs, and DVDs. And then came USB flash drives, memory cards. So what's next? Maybe DNA.

    DNA or deoxyribonucleic acid is a long string-like molecule that stores all the genetic instructions that a living organism needs to grow and to function.

    As such, DNA is capable of storing vast amounts of information: theoretically, one gram can contain some 455 billion gigabytes —almost half a billion terabytes, the equivalent of over 100 billion DVDs.

    [...]

    Some of the advantages of storing data into DNA are that it can be easily copied, and often still readable after thousands of years. So much for the magnetic tape and DVD.

    Digital data is usually stored as binary code—using the digits one and zero. DNA, on the other hand, stores data using four digits: A, C, G, and T.

    Source: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...omputer-memory
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    Nature, which is infinitely more complex than our own technologies, seems to have already devised a way to do this (if we consider the above article with respect to Sheldrake's theories). It's interesting now to re-examine the possibility of "past lives" ... it takes the mystification out of it, which for me makes it even more wondrous.

    See also: http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bull...d-in-dna/11195

    "My hypothesis is that [the cosmic serpent] is connected to the double helix of DNA inside virtually all living beings. And DNA itself is a symbolic Saussurian code. So, yes, in at least one important way, the living world is inherently symbolic. We are made of living language."
    - Jeremy Narby -

    A living language. The Logos ... The Gnostics had an interesting view of the Logos (and so did Philip K. Dick).

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    Default Re: I dont think there is reincarnation.

    From this humans perspective -what I believe is my reality, my tune or vibration, my belief/reality is no less valid than any one else. Each tuned to his own vib. Mine tuned to mine, by me and my reality- there is a lot of stuff aimed at me and around me- but it is out of my vibrational range, I cannot acknowledge it, as from my vibration - it does not exist! it is so simple it is perfect- simple is good -we all expand . peace.

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