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    I haven't finished this yet, but ran into it when I was trying to find an old video...I apologize if already posted, please feel free to merge.

    Everybody here loves GH, though some of you may not be as familiar with Mike Ruppert (I don't hear his name here much, sadly). Not sure how good an interviewer he is (guess we'll find out), but he's always written great stuff...and "Collapse" is a wonderful movie to open the eyes of "anti-conspiracy theorists".

    Anyway, this one has GH and MR discussing the irony of Hancock's "unscientific" speech being removed from TED...
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    If this is the video he speaks of about his marijuana use and his Auyasca trip at the Ted talks convention,,if so,,,,it was bliss. I hope it's not banned from YouTube. My son currently going to nursing school here in NY loved and applauded it. Especially when he spoke of consciousness.

    Lookey,,,,,I found It

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    Some Great Words Indeed That This Narrator Included In the Beginning Of The Video Posted Above. Resonating Words by Chief Crazy Horse.

    Chief Crazy Horse spoke these words as he smoked the Sacred Chanupa (Pipe) for the last time with Chief Sitting Bull, four days before he crossed over to the Star Nation in 1877.

    "Upon suffering beyond suffering, The Red Nation shall rise again, and it shall be a blessing for a sick world. A world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations. A world longing for light again! I see a time of Seven Generations
    when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life
    and the whole earth will become one circle again.

    In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry
    knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things,
    and the young white ones will come to those of my people
    and ask for this wisdom.

    I salute the light within your eyes where the whole universe dwells.
    For when you are at that center within you and I am at that place within me, we shall be one.”
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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    I still haven't gotten a chance to get all the way through it yet, but the part I was attempting to mention above is how ironic he says it is that his talk is called "war on consciousness", while T.E.D. decided to pull it from their site...thanks so much for posting it, can't wait to get to hear it.

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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    Yes both his and Rupert Sheldrake's latest TED talks were taken down.

    They were both asking for a public debate on this, there has been quite the battle over this,

    i will post more details when i have some time to dig them up..
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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    Yes both his and Rupert Sheldrake's latest TED talks were taken down.

    They were both asking for a public debate on this, there has been quite the battle over this,
    This is appalling ! I was under the impression that TED was supposed to be inspirational and working toward a new consciousness.

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    YES,.. there has been quite the uproar over this.

    Apparently it was scientist on the board that made the call,
    but he wont even be named..

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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    I think this is a very important talk and we should really start calling a spade a spade. What this is about is the war on consciousness and in the USA a part of criminalizing knowledge which is what the whole MIT/DOJ prosecution of putting stuff on the internet is all about.
    Beware the axis of sanctimony.

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    This 'war on consciousness' has been interesting to observe. I saw the original talk and did wonder how the old guard would view it. It did not surprise me when the news came.

    The debate on the Tedtalks blog was lively until comments made were eventually hidden, or only viewable to TED members.

    Graham posted this on FB



    Quote ***OUR OPEN LETTER TO TED*** Please join our call to TED to reinstate Rupert & Graham's talks onto TEDxyoutube and TED.com

    Dear Chris, Lara, and the TED team

    We, the TEDxWhitechapel team - the initiators and co-curators of the event - have deeply reflected on your actions to remove the talks of two of our speakers Rupert Sheldrake and Graham’s Hancock from the official TEDx Youtube channel. We wish to clearly and openly express our views on the matter with the intention of constructively contributing to the discussion as well as to highlight potential pathways for moving forward which are mutually beneficial to all parties involved; our speakers, the TED corporation, and the TED community.

    We want to begin by sharing what TED means to us.

    We have been genuinely transformed through many of the inspiring TEDTalks; they have profoundly challenged our perceptions of and assumptions about the world, opening us up to new perspectives outside of the established mainstream thinking. Moreover, we really believe TED to be an ingenious medium to spread ideas across the globe. As such, TED represents the free and open flow and exchange of ideas globally, enriching and empowering an increasingly connected global community.

    And it is with this passion that we decided to host a TEDx event with the theme “Visions for Transition: Challenging Existing Paradigms and Redefining Values (for a more beautiful world)’. We believe that in order to deal with the diverse and complex crises converging on our planet, we need to challenge the dominant thought paradigms and radically reassess the values which govern our world. In line with Einsteins wisdom “problems cannot be solved with the same level of thinking that created them” we saw TED as a truly special platform.

    You can understand therefore, how shocked and saddened we were when we were alerted to the news that you had decided to remove Graham and Rupert’s talk from the TEDx Youtube channel and furthermore the disrespectful way in which they were treated publicly on the TED blog where you moved them.

    We would like to offer our insights to you, as to why we chose to invite these speakers. We were guided by the advice that TED gives for identifying great speakers, which was as follows.

    To build a powerful speaker program, seek out extraordinary voices in your local community who have a unique story or an unusual perspective -- and who can convey it in a dynamic way.

    Local voices that few have heard before
    People who can present their field in a new light
    Perspectives that the global TED community may not have access to
    Speakers whose work fits your event theme

    Furthermore, tips for speakers include:

    Dream big. Strive to create the best talk you have ever given. Reveal something never seen before. Do something the audience will remember forever. Share an idea that could change the world.

    Controversy energizes!

    We find that Rupert and Graham meet this criteria extremely well. Please also note that Rupert Sheldrake addressed his concerns to us that in the 18 minute format, he would not be able to give a comprehensive explanation of the complex and extensive research and ideas explored in his book. To quote from our response to him, “TED is not supposed to be a source of knowledge, but one of ideas and creativity, which inspire and stimulate to further engage with them.”

    Naturally, we don’t expect TED to agree with the content of the talks, nor are we suggesting that they represent the ‘truth’. We think science offers us a kind of lens with which to view an unfathomably complex world. These speakers challenge the mainstream scientifically accepted viewpoints and this is exactly where their value lies. TED is a platform where these different points of view can be shared, debated and challenged so that we can collectively keep evolving and developing in our understanding.

    In fact, in light of this situation, we are now even stronger in our conviction that these are valuable ideas that need to be discussed and debated widely. The massive response from the TED community and the conversations which this has sparked, tells us that there is much interest in these ideas and therefore that they are highly valuable to the science debate. Indeed, if they were so totally radical and ridiculous as you suggest they are, it leads us to wonder why they have they been worthy of so much attention? Both talks have simultaneously been supported and challenged, which for us reflects a model of how the progression of scientific understanding develops and flows.

    Therefore, we do not support your actions to put the talks on separate blogs where they are hidden from the TED community, cannot be shared, and where the conversation is limited. We also oppose the lack of integrity with which they have been treated. In particular, It is obvious that the content of many of the other existing TEDtalks would not hold up to scrutiny were the same criteria applied to them. Furthermore, we hope that you would grant your community the respect to use their own faculties of discretion and reasoning with regard to the ideas and content of the talks.

    As such, we request and urge you to re-upload the talks not only to the TEDx youtube channel, but also on the official TED.com site, including links to the discussions taking place on the TED blog. We also see this as a vital opportunity for TED to enhance their reputation as a forum for the free flow and sharing of ideas and open debate and an opportunity to win back the trust which may have been lost.

    We think the controversy over these talks is a wonderful opportunity for TED to clarify and strengthen it’s commitment to free thought, especially in the face of pressure from highly committed ideological interests from the blogosphere. Otherwise, we fear that TED will take a lot of criticism for censorship. Several of the other speakers, even if they don’t fully agree with Sheldrake’s and Hancock’s positions, are quite upset that their videos were removed. At our urging, they have been holding back from going public, waiting to see how this plays out. It would be a shame if this ends up causing negative publicity.

    We hope that you will consider this as an opportunity to become a resilient and remarkable organisation: one that has the capacity to be self-reflective, self-critical, adapt to change, evolve and grow with its communities and the challenges it faces. Most of all, that you can stay true to your values as a democratic and open platform for ideas worth spreading.

    It seems to us that enhancing Radical Openness by accepting our invitation to reinstate the talks publicly online, is an outcome that can benefit all parties involved.

    We appreciate your time to consider our message.

    With hope for a positive outcome for all

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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    I posted the following on the Graham Hancock on Ayahuasca and more thread last week:

    Quote Back to Graham Hancock on Ayahuasca and more specifically the ongoing drama which has arisen between TED and him with regards to his TED lecture entitled "The War on Consciousness".

    A TED letter on the subject dated 14th March states amongst other things:

    "After due diligence, including a survey of published scientific research and recommendations from our Science Board and our community, we have decided that Rupert Sheldrake's and Graham Hancock’s talks from TEDxWhiteChapel should be removed from the TEDx YouTube channel and any other distribution platform currently hosting the videos.

    Both talks have been flagged as containing serious factual errors that undermine TED’s commitment to good science................"

    Graham has posted the resulting ongoing dialogue between him and TED here within his website, grahamhancock.com and the latest news appears to be that TED have fully retracted their original allegations and published Graham's rebuttal here on their website. They have also opened up a new blog page here entitled "Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake, a fresh take", but as of yet, have still not reinstated either of the videos to their YouTube page.

    Personally I think this poor excuse for diplomacy shows TED to be the gatekeepers they are.

    nb: just noticed that northstar has already mentioned the above here on a very similar but different thread.

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    Why is it that TED is so in a flutter about these two thinkers but didn't blink an eye at Bill Gates' eugenics agenda? That should have created more of a stir than Hancock and Sheldrake's Consciousness presentation but it didn't. It tells you something doesn't it.

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    I remembered michael tsarion (or alex collier?) saying TED has an agenda when a radio host brought up the TED subject. I can't remember whether it's red ice radio or what....but it made me depressed for a time because i really like some of TED talks
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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Personally I think this poor excuse for diplomacy shows TED to be the gatekeepers they are.
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    I just read the info for TED membership. It's minimum fee is $6000 per year. Like private country clubs, it seems to use money as a minimum requirement for a sense of exclusivity. Then it evaluates applicants based on their professional qualifications and appeals to what use to be called social climbers.

    I also remember reading about goodie bags given to conference attendees. They were filled with expensive gifts of leading edge products donated by companies wanting to expand into an elitist, early adopter marketplace. This marketing ploy seems remarkably like the goodie bags given to Hollywood stars to gain status for their products.

    At a less rarified social level, TED reminds me of local fund raising auctions. Local mover and shakers bid on vacation trips, et al and get charity income tax deductions for buying stuff at less than the retail prices that commoners must pay. Same with going to "good" colleges and joining prestigious fraternities and sororities. Many people get sucked in to gain status and fit in rather than so that one can make positive contributions with like minded folks to help humankind.

    I have enjoyed many of the TED talks as intellectually stimulating but have always rejected such old guard orientation.

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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    It is good that this happend ...Now I know to boycott TED
    After all, the reason why I stopped watching television was due to the censorship.

    Same with TED

    I am sure others will feel the same and follow.

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    Jim Vieira's speech on topic of "European Stone Megaliths, Mounds, and the Giants of Ancient America" is also removed.

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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    I finally got around to watching this (Sheldrake's banned TED talk), quite good, and speaks to the "debunk on the forum" thread:


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    Default Re: Graham Hancock's TED talk banned...??

    Is this what was banned from You Tube. If it and not posted here someone start a new thread. If anyone wishes.

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