The Secret Of The Soul - and OBE

[sirdipswitch]

SHUT UP!!! ME!!! FAT chance!!

Y'all otta know I was just pullin yer leg on that one. ccc.

And now for the rest of the story... ccc.

George said : "See I told ya, you were pushin it, and they will run from the kitchen, as you turn up the heat."

Regardless of the rantings of one member, or all, I will not abandon this thread. Because there might just be one, that needs what I say, and will use it. Which in itself has already proven to be true, for there is not just one, that has listened, but two (2). And those two have stepped far out from the crowd, and are now talking with their HS.

And... their HS, has told them that, Fear, is the only thing holding them back.

Which brings me back to that word yet agian, for it is so important to your developement. FEAR!!! AS the IMMORTAL SPIRIT, that you are, cannot remain in you. SOURCE does not know FEAR.

Think about this... Immortality, what does that mean, really? It means something that is forever. Eternity, Infinity, cannot die. WHAT... should you fear?????? !!!!!! Open your heart, open your mind... YOU are ONLY... LOVE... for all things. AND... as a Powerfull Spiritual, Being that Loves all things, need not fear a single thing.

Changing your fear... to curiosity... will end your fear.

Do I seem arrogant, by the mannor in which I write? Yep! Me too. ccc. It comes with the territory. cc. When one comes to communion with HS/Source, it is quite difficult to think otherwise. Because even though we become one with the all, we are still just ourselves in this Physicality, and will still think in terms of this Physicality, and act as though we are still in this Physicality, because we still have to play out our lives in "This" Physicality. Plus... I choose to be this way... it is effective. It gets peoples attention. I want to get your "Dander" up. By getting your Dander up, it will make you think. And making you think, about what you are about, will aid you in this quest. Simple.

So... if you want to think of me as just some simple minded person who don't know no better, fine. But It will make you think, and when you "Think" enough... you will do. Simple. ccc.

So... I said myself: "George? Can I click send on this one?" Him: "I don't know, can you?"

Funny, how one little word can change the whole meaning of something.

THINK... before you cross the line, about what you are going to do there. I have no idea, how you think, or that which you think, and that which you will find to distract you, when you do cross the line. Gremlins fead on your fear, and will be right there at hand for a meal. When you cross in Loving "Curiosity, they will not be there, and you will have a much better experience with HS/Source, as your reward.

YOU are an ALL Powerfull Immortal Spirit... act like it... and the Universe, will be your new playground.

Here's somethin else for ya... the only thing that you are trying to Educate... is this physical body, that you are wearing. When you return from the other side, you will still be this physical body. You will just have some new information to work with. cccccc.

I love you all... Unconditionally
ENJOY!!!

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by HaulinBananas (here)
I am still reading The Secret of the Soul and Adventures Beyond the Body - the writing is good, so I don't know why it is taking me a while to finish them. I am "stuck" near the middle of Adventures Beyond the Body and am still near the beginning third of The Secret of the Soul. Meanwhile I have easily read and finished other books. One of which was Robert Monroe's Far Journey's.

A*lot* of information gathering and reviewing and observing first is the way I approach things. A close friend is more of a "doer" - learning a little something and applying it immediately over and over.

In the spirit of finding more information, I found that The Monroe Institute has free audio downloads, in the Resources section, and there are ~32 downloads from their research archives. I am listening to them again for the second or third time and have found them to be very valuable in addition to the books and youtube videos.

This thread is encouraging as a way to observe the "doers" dive in.

Meanwhile I am still figuratively checking the depth, temperature, methods, optimum time for me . . . dipping a toe to see how the water feels.

Reading this thread is like hearing someone say . . . "Jump in! The water's fine!"

Well, we are all different, but it's fun to watch and learn and feel joy as people progress. And there's time.

Excellent banana!! It's all good, and glad to hear that you're piecing all together in your own manner. Keep up the good work and when you get it all sorted out, you will be there.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by teradactyl (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Just got my little hinny bit.ccc. By a warm hearted member.

And George said see, told ya you was pushin it. cccc.

OK i'll shut up now and good be good, and just watch y'all have fun.

ccccccc

lol i wonder what it was you said this time?

i remember when i first joined PA and was investigating anything i could about OBE'ing and i had PM'd you. at one point i may have thought you were being harsh and i felt 'hurt' etc. but thats just me ego, i know you are helping me.

heck, even monks/shamans/guru's/teachers know how to be harsh to make a point, they are not harsh, but sometimes its required to make a point like i said. (the original definition of sin was 'missing the point')..anyways...

sirdippity you ARE REAL. you can be a meanie, but its not your fault.

i NOW know how easy it is to OBE; so i now understand your frustration to relay how EASY it can be.


its easier to do in actuality - than getting over how hard you think it is in your head.

its all in your head. let your expectations GO! LEAVE. have NO EXPECTATIONS. then all of what happens is your awareness to make it happen!

now i know sirdippity. that you recommend monsieur buhlman. he is your FAVE/BFF4EVR...but i also want to add the michael raduga's pdf ( can be googled search 'OBE4U' or 'practical guidebook' or michael raduga).

This is my recommendation for whoever here wants a bit more DETAIL on specifics: methods to induce OBE, methods to separate, methods to retain awareness in phase etc!; than buhlman provides.

buhlman paved the ways yes(and are more up to date than monroe) but raduga makes it ridiculously easy NOW for real newbs who want to know more. again i recommend to leave expectations at door no matter what you read.

then he goes into detail to master all aspects. (and i'm still finishing it myself just started reading about deepending last night) but i definitely recommend it because its free and its ridiculously detailed.

essentially raduga goes into it in a indirect method vs. buhlman direct method, for beginners. Because he finds that people get best results indirect, and then can go on to master direct techniques. There is a part where he compares direct to indirect:

It is also worth always keeping in mind the average
amount of time phasers spend on direct and indirect
techniques to achieve results. For example, a novice expends
an average of 5 minutes(5 attempts) on indirect techniques
for each phase experience (averaging both successful and
unsuccessful attempts), but 300 minutes(20 attempts) on
direct techniques for each phase experience. An advanced
phaser averages less than a minute(1-2 attempts) performing
indirect techniques for each phase experience, but 30 minutes
on direct techniques(2-3 attempts). pg 247


raduga says during 3 day workshop has outstanding results. after the 3 days and you get an OBE, get into learning other methods if this is the way you want to give it a go. here he says the results are:

Quick Instructions for Novices
Success Rate:
For 1-5 attempts (1-3 days) - 50%
For 6-10 attempts (2-7 days) - 80%
For 11-20 attempts (3-14 days) - 90%

sirdippity, i hope you can appreciate my recommendation to help make this easier for newbs, even if it is more reading and gets people to actually get out.


http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf

i cant wait to hear new stories of success

Hey Squirt!!! cccccc.

I agree. cc. Yep, me. I know I've been an ol stick in the mud on Buhlman, but it has been in an effort to keep people grounded in... here's that word again... "Simplicity"... and quit trying to complicate it to extreme. Now I would like to prove that ANYONE can change... even me.

ANY METHOD, that you choose to use, to go Astral, is just fine with me. HUH??!!

ME? I know!! I'm the one that is all for the simple, and TOTALLY against anything ARTIFICIAL. Yep, me, wuz. cc. But... we have now discussed so much on this thread, about so many aspects of OBE, that anyone attempting any form of it, should know what they can "expect" from it. IF... a newbie, comes in at this point knowing nothing, they should go back and read both this thread, and "Adventures Beyond The Body", thread, and they will be up to speed on that which they may find on the other side, and know how to deal with it.

So.. it is in this light, that I now endorse any method you choose. My past concern for your safety, is not without good cause. For it is that which is not discussed by others that raised my concern. Some newbies have had some very narrow escapes, with things they could not deal with. And there are Some... who did not escape! And are now living in institutions for the mentally "challenged". I have run across in my journey, some, who went from teaching in an Ashram type of environment, with acres and acres of beautifull gardens, to operating out of an office building in another city, because of the lawsuits against them, for peoples loved ones that were lost, mentally. One that I called and spoke with personally, flatly refused to talk about sending someone to the, "nut house". cc.

This, is my whole reasoning for so "pig headedly" talking about how Powerfull YOU are.

So Squirt!! cc. I have even downloaded the book, from the link that you provided, and as time allows, will read it.

Above all, I Love You All, and want only the Best for YOU, and also that YOU be Safe, in your journies

HS/Source... Your First stop in the Astral...

[Orph]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)


Because there might just be one, that needs what I say, and will use it. Which in itself has already proven to be true, for there is not just one, that has listened, but two (2).

C'mon. Give us some credit too. Just because we haven't had an oobe yet doesn't mean there aren't more than just 2 people that are listening. (technically, we're reading).

[lookbeyond]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by teradactyl (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Just got my little hinny bit.ccc. By a warm hearted member.

And George said see, told ya you was pushin it. cccc.

OK i'll shut up now and good be good, and just watch y'all have fun.

ccccccc

lol i wonder what it was you said this time?

i remember when i first joined PA and was investigating anything i could about OBE'ing and i had PM'd you. at one point i may have thought you were being harsh and i felt 'hurt' etc. but thats just me ego, i know you are helping me.

heck, even monks/shamans/guru's/teachers know how to be harsh to make a point, they are not harsh, but sometimes its required to make a point like i said. (the original definition of sin was 'missing the point')..anyways...

sirdippity you ARE REAL. you can be a meanie, but its not your fault.

i NOW know how easy it is to OBE; so i now understand your frustration to relay how EASY it can be.


its easier to do in actuality - than getting over how hard you think it is in your head.

its all in your head. let your expectations GO! LEAVE. have NO EXPECTATIONS. then all of what happens is your awareness to make it happen!

now i know sirdippity. that you recommend monsieur buhlman. he is your FAVE/BFF4EVR...but i also want to add the michael raduga's pdf ( can be googled search 'OBE4U' or 'practical guidebook' or michael raduga).

This is my recommendation for whoever here wants a bit more DETAIL on specifics: methods to induce OBE, methods to separate, methods to retain awareness in phase etc!; than buhlman provides.

buhlman paved the ways yes(and are more up to date than monroe) but raduga makes it ridiculously easy NOW for real newbs who want to know more. again i recommend to leave expectations at door no matter what you read.

then he goes into detail to master all aspects. (and i'm still finishing it myself just started reading about deepending last night) but i definitely recommend it because its free and its ridiculously detailed.

essentially raduga goes into it in a indirect method vs. buhlman direct method, for beginners. Because he finds that people get best results indirect, and then can go on to master direct techniques. There is a part where he compares direct to indirect:

It is also worth always keeping in mind the average
amount of time phasers spend on direct and indirect
techniques to achieve results. For example, a novice expends
an average of 5 minutes(5 attempts) on indirect techniques
for each phase experience (averaging both successful and
unsuccessful attempts), but 300 minutes(20 attempts) on
direct techniques for each phase experience. An advanced
phaser averages less than a minute(1-2 attempts) performing
indirect techniques for each phase experience, but 30 minutes
on direct techniques(2-3 attempts). pg 247


raduga says during 3 day workshop has outstanding results. after the 3 days and you get an OBE, get into learning other methods if this is the way you want to give it a go. here he says the results are:

Quick Instructions for Novices
Success Rate:
For 1-5 attempts (1-3 days) - 50%
For 6-10 attempts (2-7 days) - 80%
For 11-20 attempts (3-14 days) - 90%

sirdippity, i hope you can appreciate my recommendation to help make this easier for newbs, even if it is more reading and gets people to actually get out.


http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf

i cant wait to hear new stories of success

Hey Squirt!!! cccccc.

I agree. cc. Yep, me. I know I've been an ol stick in the mud on Buhlman, but it has been in an effort to keep people grounded in... here's that word again... "Simplicity"... and quit trying to complicate it to extreme. Now I would like to prove that ANYONE can change... even me.

ANY METHOD, that you choose to use, to go Astral, is just fine with me. HUH??!!

ME? I know!! I'm the one that is all for the simple, and TOTALLY against anything ARTIFICIAL. Yep, me, wuz. cc. But... we have now discussed so much on this thread, about so many aspects of OBE, that anyone attempting any form of it, should know what they can "expect" from it. IF... a newbie, comes in at this point knowing nothing, they should go back and read both this thread, and "Adventures Beyond The Body", thread, and they will be up to speed on that which they may find on the other side, and know how to deal with it.

So.. it is in this light, that I now endorse any method you choose. My past concern for your safety, is not without good cause. For it is that which is not discussed by others that raised my concern. Some newbies have had some very narrow escapes, with things they could not deal with. And there are Some... who did not escape! And are now living in institutions for the mentally "challenged". I have run across in my journey, some, who went from teaching in an Ashram type of environment, with acres and acres of beautifull gardens, to operating out of an office building in another city, because of the lawsuits against them, for peoples loved ones that were lost, mentally. One that I called and spoke with personally, flatly refused to talk about sending someone to the, "nut house". cc.

This, is my whole reasoning for so "pig headedly" talking about how Powerfull YOU are.

So Squirt!! cc. I have even downloaded the book, from the link that you provided, and as time allows, will read it.

Above all, I Love You All, and want only the Best for YOU, and also that YOU be Safe, in your journies

HS/Source... Your First stop in the Astral...

Ok thanks, this is what i was looking for when i asked about "dangers" OB travel.Realistic advice re what may happen if the person is not emotionally/mentally prepared as can occur with activating kundalini before one is spiritually prepared/mature-lookbeyond

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by Orph (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)


Because there might just be one, that needs what I say, and will use it. Which in itself has already proven to be true, for there is not just one, that has listened, but two (2).

C'mon. Give us some credit too. Just because we haven't had an oobe yet doesn't mean there aren't more than just 2 people that are listening. (technically, we're reading).

Well ruffel my feathers there Buckwheat. cc. Yep! I know perfectly well that yer listenin. Or you wouldn't be here, ticklin my funny bone. ccc. But... did get yer attention, Eh?

I really think y'all are doin as good or better than I did to start. Remember also, that I've been doin this stuff for almost half a century. YAH! NOW who's the slow one? Yours truly. But.. I don't want none a you takin half a centry. ccc.

So I'm just gonna keep pushin.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Posted by teradactyl (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Just got my little hinny bit.ccc. By a warm hearted member.

And George said see, told ya you was pushin it. cccc.

OK i'll shut up now and good be good, and just watch y'all have fun.

ccccccc

lol i wonder what it was you said this time?

i remember when i first joined PA and was investigating anything i could about OBE'ing and i had PM'd you. at one point i may have thought you were being harsh and i felt 'hurt' etc. but thats just me ego, i know you are helping me.

heck, even monks/shamans/guru's/teachers know how to be harsh to make a point, they are not harsh, but sometimes its required to make a point like i said. (the original definition of sin was 'missing the point')..anyways...

sirdippity you ARE REAL. you can be a meanie, but its not your fault.

i NOW know how easy it is to OBE; so i now understand your frustration to relay how EASY it can be.


its easier to do in actuality - than getting over how hard you think it is in your head.

its all in your head. let your expectations GO! LEAVE. have NO EXPECTATIONS. then all of what happens is your awareness to make it happen!

now i know sirdippity. that you recommend monsieur buhlman. he is your FAVE/BFF4EVR...but i also want to add the michael raduga's pdf ( can be googled search 'OBE4U' or 'practical guidebook' or michael raduga).

This is my recommendation for whoever here wants a bit more DETAIL on specifics: methods to induce OBE, methods to separate, methods to retain awareness in phase etc!; than buhlman provides.

buhlman paved the ways yes(and are more up to date than monroe) but raduga makes it ridiculously easy NOW for real newbs who want to know more. again i recommend to leave expectations at door no matter what you read.

then he goes into detail to master all aspects. (and i'm still finishing it myself just started reading about deepending last night) but i definitely recommend it because its free and its ridiculously detailed.

essentially raduga goes into it in a indirect method vs. buhlman direct method, for beginners. Because he finds that people get best results indirect, and then can go on to master direct techniques. There is a part where he compares direct to indirect:

It is also worth always keeping in mind the average
amount of time phasers spend on direct and indirect
techniques to achieve results. For example, a novice expends
an average of 5 minutes(5 attempts) on indirect techniques
for each phase experience (averaging both successful and
unsuccessful attempts), but 300 minutes(20 attempts) on
direct techniques for each phase experience. An advanced
phaser averages less than a minute(1-2 attempts) performing
indirect techniques for each phase experience, but 30 minutes
on direct techniques(2-3 attempts). pg 247


raduga says during 3 day workshop has outstanding results. after the 3 days and you get an OBE, get into learning other methods if this is the way you want to give it a go. here he says the results are:

Quick Instructions for Novices
Success Rate:
For 1-5 attempts (1-3 days) - 50%
For 6-10 attempts (2-7 days) - 80%
For 11-20 attempts (3-14 days) - 90%

sirdippity, i hope you can appreciate my recommendation to help make this easier for newbs, even if it is more reading and gets people to actually get out.


http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf

i cant wait to hear new stories of success

Hey Squirt!!! cccccc.

I agree. cc. Yep, me. I know I've been an ol stick in the mud on Buhlman, but it has been in an effort to keep people grounded in... here's that word again... "Simplicity"... and quit trying to complicate it to extreme. Now I would like to prove that ANYONE can change... even me.

ANY METHOD, that you choose to use, to go Astral, is just fine with me. HUH??!!

ME? I know!! I'm the one that is all for the simple, and TOTALLY against anything ARTIFICIAL. Yep, me, wuz. cc. But... we have now discussed so much on this thread, about so many aspects of OBE, that anyone attempting any form of it, should know what they can "expect" from it. IF... a newbie, comes in at this point knowing nothing, they should go back and read both this thread, and "Adventures Beyond The Body", thread, and they will be up to speed on that which they may find on the other side, and know how to deal with it.

So.. it is in this light, that I now endorse any method you choose. My past concern for your safety, is not without good cause. For it is that which is not discussed by others that raised my concern. Some newbies have had some very narrow escapes, with things they could not deal with. And there are Some... who did not escape! And are now living in institutions for the mentally "challenged". I have run across in my journey, some, who went from teaching in an Ashram type of environment, with acres and acres of beautifull gardens, to operating out of an office building in another city, because of the lawsuits against them, for peoples loved ones that were lost, mentally. One that I called and spoke with personally, flatly refused to talk about sending someone to the, "nut house". cc.

This, is my whole reasoning for so "pig headedly" talking about how Powerfull YOU are.

So Squirt!! cc. I have even downloaded the book, from the link that you provided, and as time allows, will read it.

Above all, I Love You All, and want only the Best for YOU, and also that YOU be Safe, in your journies

HS/Source... Your First stop in the Astral...

Ok thanks, this is what i was looking for when i asked about "dangers" OB travel.Realistic advice re what may happen if the person is not emotionally/mentally prepared as can occur with activating kundalini before one is spiritually prepared/mature-lookbeyond

Hey LB!! Tanks!!! (oops, Thanks)
(edit? Certainly I edit. Everything. yep, I know I leave mistakes, but, if you only knew all the ones I take out.cccc)

You bring an excellent point to the table. Kundalini, is another very good example, of the things nobody talks about. And newbies, trying things on their own, without the aid of someone knowledgable in that which they are attempting, can do far more harm, than good.

Here is a fairly good link to some of that which lookbeyond is talking about concerning Kundalini.

http://www.greatdreams.com/kunda.htm

No I'm not suggesting you try this, it's just that there seems to be so many here on PA, that are involved with this, that someone should at least say something about the pitfalls of Kundalini, as I do with Astral Projection. My first and foremost wish, is to keep all of you safe, as you are first starting out on this journey. Either journey. Whichever one you should choose.

Thanks for bringing this up LB, you may just have saved someone from harm.

OK back to basics. cc.

That which I like to call "Stinkin Thinkin", can cause you a ton a trouble that you did not wish to have, when you cross the line. Meaning. Be very, very careful of your thinking, because the Astral Realms, are "Very" Highly, thought responsive. What happens when you watch a scarry movie, and then go to bed? You might just have a really cool nightmare. ccc. Well guess what happens when you watch all those scarry movies and then go Astral. Yep! You just might get to play with some of what you have been watching. This is why I keep talking about your "Intentions" and that which you wish to do, when you cross the line. It is also why I keep stressing HS/Source, for your first goal. When you go thinking only of your HS/Source, guess who's gonna be looking for you to cross over? Yep! HS/Source. Not, your scarry movies.

Back to one of my favorite sayings. Be very care what you think about, you just might get it.

OK now, think about this also. HS/Source... will not tell you what you can ask for. HUH? You must ask for everything that YOU want. AND... you must be very carefully, specific, in how you do ask. It must be in the form of a now, command. I said to HS: "Can you heal me?" He said: "Yes." I ain't healed, and I ain't askin again soon. cccc. The very first time that I went to HS, He looked jsu like me, and I walked up to Him, stated: "I do not go back to my body, untill I give the command, "back to my body". He looked at sort of sideways, and said anything else? me: "When I give the command "Separate Now," I will be instantly out of body, so that I can return here and talk further with you.". He: "Is there more? me: "I go to Source." Gone, outta there, instantly, right to Source. When I left Source, it was right back to my body. I laughed. Cool! I said : "Separate Now", and was out. Instantly. I went straight to George. He was really looking quite perturbed with me this time, and before I could say anything He said: "What now?" I said just checkin! We just looked at one another for a few seconds, and then bust out laughing. When we were through laughin, I said: "Oh by the way, since I have been callin you George all my life, is there any reason to change now? He just chuckled and said Nope.

[sirdipswitch]

oops

Be very care what you think about--- carefull

[Orph]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)

Yep! I know perfectly well that yer listenin. Or you wouldn't be here, ticklin my funny bone. ccc.

I might be ticklin' your funny bone, but I'm a real hoot for my higher self. You see, I always start off my exercises with the phrase " I am an immortal being of the highest order". So imagine it from my H/S perspective. He's sitting there watching this 'immortal being of the highest order' toss, turn, and squirm every which way inside this physical body, unable to get out. Kind of like watching somebody get locked inside their own car!

[sirdipswitch]

chuckle chuckle chuckle, know just whacha mean. I rattled around in my body for so long I thought that I would be looking backward, while walking forward. cccccccc.

When I finally rolled out of body, I really thought that I had just rolled off the couch. Boy was I ever surprized, when I stood up and there was my body still layin on the couch, sound asleep. cccccc.

Sounds like yours is givin you just as hard a time, as mine gave me. ccc.

I was thinkin it must be us old guys age, and all of the baggage we have accumulated that slows us down, when I had two old ladies here, (in their 70s') that jumped right out the first week, after reading both books. ccc. Course maybe they lived a whole bunch better than I did. cccccccccc. I been mostly good, but not "real" good. ccccccc. hmm!!!

Just keep on keepin on, and one o these days you'll plop right out like I did. ccc.

[Beren]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
oops

Be very care what you think about--- carefull

True.

One thing to be clear about. When you meet your HS or when you go to Source, ask to remember who you are.
This dimension is very heavy thus we need more awoken folk in order to shine brighter upon the darkness and bring light to many.

Many times I have a feeling that many people in the world are just complaining about the life and wish a change but only to suit their current selfish needs.
Economy and such. Or spiritual knowledge and such or powers and such.

We need to outgrow the selfish needs in material sense or in false spiritual sense of false power.
What do I mean?

I mean when you go OBE don`t be overtaken by what you see ,hear and feel.
Don`t think highly of yourself as you are some kind of superman and you have some magic tricks and such.

Go in good heart before God. So you can understand the tremendous power vested in you. You and me are God. A parts of the Source and the image of glory and glory itself.
Don`t be fooled by your ego that now since you do OBE or such you are better than others or that you want to misuse the power you have.

You will quickly learn that as more power you have the greater the responsibility you carry since repercussions are greater than here and now living in ignorance.

Henceforth brothers and sisters, this thread is of great value and I thank here publicly to Sirdipswitch for it.
Many a good advices and many a good reasons we need to just shine!

[sirdipswitch]

Ah my freind Beren, fabulously great post!!

Asking who I was, turned out to be the "Shock" of my life. When y'all go to HS, and ask, be prepared for anything. I wasn't. ccc.

As for this great Power I keep talkin about, without much on how to use it, or the responsibility that it entails; yes it does, as one should well immagine. All part of my wanting to make you think, and learn how to read between the lines for that which I don't say, and is presicely what Beren has demonstrated with this post. He has expanded beautifully on that which I don't say.

I would only add, that Source will not turn anyone loose with His Power, that does not have ability to wield such Power. And is why I keep talkin about learning to control your thinking. By meerly unguarded idle thinking, I was able to blow up the Universe. Yes Source fixed my "mistake", but... what else does that little mistake indicate? If one gets upset, or angry, or Irritable, or dissatisfied, with a freind, or Loved one, you could quite easily... kill them, with just a thought! And Source, won't fix that one for you.

Not to worry though, you will do lots of growing before you reach that point.

AND... 100% Absoluetly Unconditional Love for ALL things, cures this problem. ccc.

Unconditionally... sirdippity...cccccccccccccc.

[Reinhard]

Hey guys...........in case you haven't heard: Jake is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See the thread "The effect of doubt".

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Sirdipswitch,

I wonder if you think it neccessary, or maybe just productive, to do more than the William Buhlman exercises to have a face-to-face (metaphor) with Higher Self.

The reason I ask is because of your post:

"An excellent choice of Kahuna. I am familiar with his teaching and agree wholeheartedly.

Although I resonate better with, Serge Kahili King, The Urban Shaman. cc. It was through Serges' teaching, that I was finally able to make the "jump to light speed" and go Astral. Huna, has helpped me far more than any other teaching."

I realize that you can only describe your own path and what worked for you to achieve light speed, but not what may work for everyone else. I would like to read your opinion concerning other techniques that may be helpful to others. Or maybe your opinion is to keep it simple, and that Buhlman has provided all the techniques needed.

I am on day #28 using the William Buhlman exercises with not even a hint of success yet, not even a little vibration. (And I think I've been a nice guy most of my life. ccccc).

Thanks,
Ron
(Always wondering if today is my big day with HS)

[soleil]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
Sirdipswitch,

I wonder if you think it neccessary, or maybe just productive, to do more than the William Buhlman exercises to have a face-to-face (metaphor) with Higher Self.

The reason I ask is because of your post:

"An excellent choice of Kahuna. I am familiar with his teaching and agree wholeheartedly.

Although I resonate better with, Serge Kahili King, The Urban Shaman. cc. It was through Serges' teaching, that I was finally able to make the "jump to light speed" and go Astral. Huna, has helpped me far more than any other teaching."

I realize that you can only describe your own path and what worked for you to achieve light speed, but not what may work for everyone else. I would like to read your opinion concerning other techniques that may be helpful to others. Or maybe your opinion is to keep it simple, and that Buhlman has provided all the techniques needed.

I am on day #28 using the William Buhlman exercises with not even a hint of success yet, not even a little vibration. (And I think I've been a nice guy most of my life. ccccc).

Thanks,
Ron
(Always wondering if today is my big day with HS)

hi rm, i actually just came across this on robert bruce's forum. it goes into detail on a litte sequence using the direct method (like sirdipswitch).

Your Projection Sequence


It is difficult to give one, universal projection sequence as everybody has different levels of skill and natural ability. For this reason I give a more flexible sequence and I suggest you tailor a projection method to fit your own needs and level of skill. Keep in mind the old saying "What works, works!" Play around with your sequence until you find what is right for you, what is easiest and most effective.


First, here is the full sequence for advanced, real time projection.


Full Sequence



1- Do relaxation exercises thoroughly.
2- Clear your mind through breath awareness.
3- *Enter trance using mental falling method.
4- *Raise energy and open all chakras.
5- Pull yourself out with the imaginary rope.

*Steps 3 and 4 can be swapped to suit, i.e., do the energy work before, or after, entering trance. Energy and chakra work is more effective done in trance, but some people have trouble getting into that state. Doing the energy work first will usually help bring about the trance state.


*IF you still have trouble getting into trance, use the ROPE climbing method at step 3 instead of the mental falling exercise, until you are in trance. Then stop the ROPE climbing and do the energy work before continuing with the projection, i.e., using the ROPE at step 3 will help force your body into the trance state.



here is the link to read about ROPE and other details:
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/con...t-5-Using-ROPE

[soleil]

here is a link to robert bruce forum that goes into developing your energy body (which i think gives a huge edge/advantage) : http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/con...ew-energy-ways

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
Sirdipswitch,

I wonder if you think it neccessary, or maybe just productive, to do more than the William Buhlman exercises to have a face-to-face (metaphor) with Higher Self.

The reason I ask is because of your post:

"An excellent choice of Kahuna. I am familiar with his teaching and agree wholeheartedly.

Although I resonate better with, Serge Kahili King, The Urban Shaman. cc. It was through Serges' teaching, that I was finally able to make the "jump to light speed" and go Astral. Huna, has helpped me far more than any other teaching."

I realize that you can only describe your own path and what worked for you to achieve light speed, but not what may work for everyone else. I would like to read your opinion concerning other techniques that may be helpful to others. Or maybe your opinion is to keep it simple, and that Buhlman has provided all the techniques needed.

I am on day #28 using the William Buhlman exercises with not even a hint of success yet, not even a little vibration. (And I think I've been a nice guy most of my life. ccccc).

Thanks,
Ron
(Always wondering if today is my big day with HS)

Hi Ron!!!

I do appologize for not getting back to you sooner, but yesterday was a busy day. cc.

I didn't realize that it had been so long since I posted, about my favorite "Kahuna", (which was way back in the, Adventures Beyond The Body thread.) And and now bring it back to the front, for all who may have missed it. As I have stated previously, I like #2 the best, of the 7 principals, (Kala) that says, "anything is possible, if you can figure out how to do it". That is presicely what I have done with this OOB thing. Because I did not want to know how to find my chokras, or learn how to open them, or know how many energy bodies I have, before going Astral. I was looking for somehting "Simple" that "Anyone" could do without all of the mumbo jumbo BS, from all of the other "wisdom phylosophies", to deal with. That is presicely what I found in William Buhlmans work.

Huna is "Simple". Huna works!! Huna will help you connect with HS/Source. Because Huna, comes from Source, it is NOT, a man made phylosophy, as all the rest are. All of the rest have been taken over and designed to keep you in the dark, by TPTB.

The reason I like Serge Kahili King, is because he keeps Huna simple, as it was intended to be. He is not using it to promote his favorite teaching, (such as NLP programing) as others are trying to do. HUNA!!! has nothing to do, with NLP programing. It is Simple, keep it simple! Period!


Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z2Y2t-MCvSc






Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_MnjOaknM




[YOUTUBE][http://youtu.be/l62RMlx9Kbk/YOUTUBE]




Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mXt9HZwTQEk



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oops!!!! Missed part 3... here it is.


Now if I did this right, there shouls be 4 videos for you. ccc.




Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l62RMlx9Kbk

[sirdipswitch]

oops!!!

OK, try this again. ccc.











Shoulda just did it this way the first time, instead of tryin to take a shory cut, to make it easier. hmm. maybe there's a message in there somewhere. ccc.

Sometimes short cuts... turn out to be the long way round. hmm. cc.

[sirdipswitch]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z2Y2t-MCvSc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_MnjOaknM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l62RMlx9Kbk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mXt9HZwTQEk

If at first you don't succeed? Just keep on keepin on. cccc

[sirdipswitch]

Every aspect of our lives has been determined by TPTB. Period. This game has been going for longer than recorded history. "EVERYTHING" you think you know, has been determined by them. Every "Wisdom" teaching, has been complicated to the point that the common man, cannot figure it out, without the aid of a Priest, Preacher, Minister, Paster, or Guru, to help in their journey through this thing we call life.

Huna, is simple. With nothing but these 7 simple principals, one can not only negociate this thing we call life, but do rather well in the proccess, "Without" the aid of anyone!

Did ya all know, that a Kahuna, can heal broken bones,"immediately"!

WE, my freinds, have lost so much, of our "Original" knowledge, that it is quite pathetic...

Modern Man... bah humbug!!! WE are so backward that Source, can't even believe it.

When you truly stumble across Truth... you will be as dumbflabbergasted, as I.