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    It's difficult for me to wrap my mind around the UCC filing, but it seems to make sense that every human being is a trustee of the Earth for the Creator.

    I've read and listened to Chris Thomas, but I don't know where he gets his info, so how trustworthy is he?

    Are Frank O'Collins and Winston Shrout so immersed in their ways of thinking that they can't see a new way?

    I'm with Daozen on this, watching and waiting and learning. It certainly has prompted some interesting new directions in thinking and imagining.


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    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    My point is, we don't know.
    Some of us already do know ... what we're seeing looks nonsensical.

    Some of us will choose not to know ... no matter how much the OPPT keeps missing deadlines.
    Have they made any deadlines? i didnt realize that ... care to elaborate plz?

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    Quote Posted by genevieve (here)
    It's difficult for me to wrap my mind around the UCC filing, but it seems to make sense that every human being is a trustee of the Earth for the Creator.
    I've read and listened to Chris Thomas, but I don't know where he gets his info, so how trustworthy is he?
    Are Frank O'Collins and Winston Shrout so immersed in their ways of thinking that they can't see a new way?
    I'm with Daozen on this, watching and waiting and learning. It certainly has prompted some interesting new directions in thinking and imagining.

    OPPT Commentary


    Now that you bring up Winston Shrout, let's have a look at what this man has to say about this...



    The OPPT has said they have filed a national UCC1 Financial Statement that will lead to foreclose on several banks.
    - There is a big difference between filing a UCC1 Financial Statement & recording a UCC1 Financial Statement.
    - There is a big difference between a National UCC1 form & a State UCC1 form
    - There is a big difference in a Lien & a Notice of Lien
    -Filing a national UCC1 Form does not create a lien, it does not create a liability, it cannot be used to make a foreclosure on something. It cannot be used to arrest the accounts of banks, i.e. Federal Reserve, IMF, BIS.
    -The filing of a National UCC1 Form (which the OPPT people say they have done) is strictly a Notice. It is not a lien, hence, cannot be used to foreclose on anything.
    -a Lien vs a Levy
    -a Lien goes after the title of the thing.
    -a Levy goes after the thing itself.
    -Its not possible to foreclose on anything by filing a UCC1 Financial Statement! It is simply a Notice.
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    Have they made any deadlines? i didnt realize that ... care to elaborate plz?
    Another poster above on this thread stated that they had made some deadline(s).

    I don't know if that's accurate or not.
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    Quote Another poster above on this thread stated that they had made some deadline(s).

    I don't know if that's accurate or not.
    Nope, I didn't say that. I said this:

    Quote My point is, we don't know. It's all bluster and gabble from both sides right now.

    If the OPPT end up missing a bunch of deadlines, if they keep putting dates back, if they string people along, then to be sure, its fake.

    Until then, the only really sane thing to do is stay quiet and observe.
    i.e. If they consistently make deadlines and then break them, like Drake and others in the alt media, then we will know they are fake. As of now, they have not made and then seriously broken any time limits, dates or predictions.

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    The only timeframe they have specified at current is that CVAC info will be up as of next week. I'll give them a month. If they are still messing around by early April I'll forget the whole thing.

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    Nope, I didn't say that. I said this: ...
    You also said this:
    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    Why? Cos the OPPT has said that they will deliver their new system *this coming week*.
    And you just now repeated that, saying this:
    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    The only timeframe they have specified at current is that CVAC info will be up as of next week.
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    Well that's not a bunch of deadlines, its one... and we're still in the timeframe.

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    turiya--

    I'm not well versed in any of this, but Heather Tucci-Jarraf explained in an interview subsequent to Shrout's:

    -- placing a lien wasn't appropriate because the corporations don't really own what they claim they own

    -- all UCCs are connected, so a state filing is just as valid as a national filing (I don't remember if she made a distinction between filing and recording)


    As I said, I don't know much about UCCs, etc., but these are two points I paid attention to after listening to Shrout.


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    Quote Posted by genevieve (here)
    turiya--
    I'm not well versed in any of this, but Heather Tucci-Jarraf explained in an interview subsequent to Shrout's:
    -- placing a lien wasn't appropriate because the corporations don't really own what they claim they own
    -- all UCCs are connected, so a state filing is just as valid as a national filing (I don't remember if she made a distinction between filing and recording)
    As I said, I don't know much about UCCs, etc., but these are two points I paid attention to after listening to Shrout.
    Hi genevieve, thanks for your reply.
    I am no expert, but I do know who some of the experts are. And here are another couple of them:
    Part1

    Part2

    The experts that I have posted on this thread may disagree on minor some points of law.
    But, in this case, all these experts that I have posted agree on the point that the OPPT doesn't make it past their scrutiny.

    Even if the OPPT people got it wrong, it is at least bringing the issue of one's individual sovereignty to the forefront.
    We may yet see this thing being done correctly at some time in the future. My sense, and the best bet that I see, if I were to put money on this, is that Frank O'Collins' Ucadia model is the way to go.
    That is what rings true to me.

    Why these OPPT people did not seek the advice of any of these people before they went public is a bit bewildering to me, to say the least.

    cheers - turiya
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    My sense, and the best bet that I see, if I were to put money on this, is that Frank O'Collins' Ucadia model is the way to go. That is what rings true to me. Why these OPPT people did not seek the advice of any of these people before they went public is a bit bewildering to me, to say the least. cheers - turiya
    I concur. The sovereignty movement has been around for decades, and why reinvent the wheel, or go down the same roads that others have gone down and paid the ultimate price? Why don't we learn from others?
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    Your link is a bogus link and would clearly explain your warped opinion of the OPPT. You will know by the end of this month. The truth will be known.

    Quote Posted by Herbert (here)
    Note: 1776 was not the signing of the Declaration of Independence. That happened in 1788. It was however, the year the Bavarian Illuminati were formed.

    “People are going to flock to these ‘saviours’ without a second thought”. All they will hear is” free money!! Where do I sign up?”
    And the worst part is, those who see through the agenda will be hated and seen as the enemy of the gullible people.


    “What I find interesting is how quickly people are able to De Bunk these things…
    Look how much information independent individuals are able to pull together to give others an informed view on something such as OPPT.”

    “My understanding of this is that OPPT is saying we have fulfilled our contracts as being separated from "source", and that we are no longer servants to the debt-slavery system, unless we choose to be. Thus we are "free".”

    ”This is where bondservant comes in... Please re-read the definitions posted on this page for clarity: One People's Public Trust (OPPT), NWO & Agenda 21 (Final Equinox)

    ”What I see is a window of opportunity to become Truly free and sovereign as this cycle closes and another one begins. The god entity sitting at the top of 4D also wants to seize this opportunity and suck as many people into the Great Arena as possible.”

    ”As we know, OPPT have declared all the people of the earth bondservants to the "creator/source". This is made very clear in their documents. I don't think many people are going to have a problem with that, as most are already subservient to their "god", and atheists will just laugh and say, "Okay whatever, I don't care what it says about god as long as I'm out of debt and have access to 5 billion dollars and 'free' energy etc.". Only a small few of us are going to stand in our sovereignty and actually 'walk' out of the synthetic universe.”

    Funny how Heather calls herself "just one of the worker bees". Hive mind anyone?


    Thanks to Christina and wffolkes over at at Final Equinox for much of this information.

    HGF stands for Human Gullibility Factor.

    The OPPT, The UCC And The HGF
    By Chris Thomas.
    March 5, 2013

    In recent weeks, the Internet and some media has been inundated with claims made by an organisation that calls itself The One Peoples Public Trust or OPPT.

    The OPPT claim that they have established a Trust bonded to the original American Constitution of 1776. They further bonded every single person on the planet into this trust and claim to act in the interests of every single person on the planet.

    The OPPT claim to have filed legal documents with the UCC that make claims: Understanding that corporations, governments and banks are one and the same, an “Order of Finding and Action” was filed against the “the debtor”, a legal entity created via the UCC process which encompasses all corporate entities. The filings claim that the Debtor “knowingly, willingly and intentionally committed treason” by “owning, operating, aiding and abetting private money systems” and “operating Slavery Systems used against… citizens without their knowing, willing and intentional consent”.

    In other words, all of the Earth’s resources are owned by people and not corporations or governments. This is a right given to us because of our connections to the “Creator” and cannot be contested.

    The OPPT further claim that as they filed these documents with the UCC under a “non-rebuttal” clause and as the “debtor” has not rebutted these claims, the documents filed by the OPPT now become law.

    The OPPT further claim that: “Lawfully, nobody can stand as a superior authority between you and your relationship with the Creator. Having removed the control-mechanisms of economy and government, the One People’s Public Trust leaves individuals in full liability, being personally responsible for themselves and for ensuring the free-will rights of others. There is no longer a structural chain of command. No rules. No corporations to hide behind. You are – as the Creator intended – a Being and a guardian of our planet and its inhabitants.”

    Having read these documents and claims, my first question was: The American Constitution was not written in 1776 so what do they mean?

    First of all, the only event of note that happened in 1776 was the establishment of the Bavarian Illuminati. Then in July 1782, the Illuminati incorporated the Order of Freemasons at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad.

    The American Constitution was not written until 1787 and was not ratified until the 21st of June 1788 – note: of the 55 signatories to the American Constitution, 50 were known Freemasons.

    So what American Constitution has the OPPT bonded themselves to and, by extension, bonded every single person on the planet? Certainly it is not the American Constitution as everybody knows it as it was not written in 1776. Does this mean that the OPPT have bonded everyone to the Illuminati and the Freemasons?

    Given that every school child in America is well schooled in the history of the American Constitution, the OPPT stating that it was signed in 1776 is, obviously, a deliberate mistake. If it isn’t a deliberate mistake, the error would negate their claim to passing a law.

    My second question was: Who are the UCC?

    The UCC

    In several OPPT documents and emails they refer to the UCC as “Universal Commercial Code”. If you Google this name, you receive no hits – the Universal Commercial Code does not exist. But Google does come up with a number of hits for UCC and the organisation that exactly matches the OPPT’s description of the organisation with which their documents are filed is an American organisation whose full name is “Uniform Commercial Code”

    To quote from the UCC’s web site: "The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC or the Code), first published in 1952, is one of a number of uniform acts that have been promulgated in conjunction with efforts to harmonize the law of sales and other commercial transactions in all 50 states within the United States of America."

    In other words, the UCC is, effectively, an NGO which does not have any legal powers or even the power to police the policy documents it writes. All it can do is to recommend policy to individual State Legislators and it is then up to the particular State to adopt these recommendations or not. If the individual States then decide to adopt the UCC’s recommendations, it passes laws to adopt them. The UCC does not pass laws. The UCC has no legal standing and no legal powers even within the USA let alone anywhere else in the world.

    The UCC does have a legal department who check and advise on State law but their web site does not make any reference to the OPPT filings (their web site, when I visited it, was updated on the 28th of February 2013).

    Other Problems

    The OPPT claim that they filed papers with the UCC under, what the OPPT claim is a system of “rebuttal”.

    What this means is that if the person or organisation the actions are filed against does not “rebut” the allegations within a certain time frame, the filed actions automatically become law.

    There is a process, in some legal situations, whereby if an accusation or claim is made against a defendant and the defendant does not present a defence, the court finds in favour of the claimant automatically. This only applies if the claimant files their complaint in a recognised court of law.

    However, the UCC is not a court of law, it has no legal standing anywhere in the world and it cannot make judgements or rulings on any document that is filed with it.

    Think of it this way: You are a car salesman who believes that people throughout the world should only buy American-built automobiles. So you join together with other car salesmen who have the same thoughts and form a trust. As a trust, you then write a document containing all sorts of impenetrable legal-sounding language stating that the citizens of the world can only buy American-built automobiles, lodge these papers with the UCC claiming that unless this new “law” is rebutted within 6 months, the trust’s idea becomes law throughout the world.

    If the form of legal processes the OPPT claim to have worked in their favour was true, think how many other law suites would be brought about through the UCC and throughout the world for all sorts of bizarre rules that favour one group against another – it would be legal chaos.

    This is why the use of a rebuttal clause can only be decided in a court of law. Additionally, the OPPT claim to have access to a “higher source of information” that they call the “Eternal Records”.

    I have encountered this phrase “Eternal Records” only once before and that was about 10 years ago. This was when someone set up a web site claiming to be in “direct communication” with some Galactic Council or Galactic Federation or other that they could, through the Velon, access these Eternal Records and that only the Velon had access to these records, nobody else in the Universe did.

    By claiming they have access to the Eternal records, the OPPT are linking themselves in with the Velon and the Velon controlled Illuminati (by the way, the “Eternal Records” do not exist except in Velon fantasy).

    Apart from the documents the OPPT have been putting out on their web site and the internet in general, there have been a number of articles written about them in alternative magazines and newspapers. There has also been a series of four articles written about them and published in the Guardian newspaper’s online edition. The Guardian Express articles were written by Andy Whiteley who is a publicist for the OPPT.

    Presumably, other articles have been published in other “mainstream” newspapers but I have not had access to them.

    So why would at least one mainstream newspaper publish, and publicise, the actions the OPPT claim they have made when the results of the actions claimed by the OPPT would destroy the media?

    It must be remembered that over eighty percent of all media – newspapers, magazines, television, radio, book publishing and the internet – is owned by five people. All five of these media magnates are members of the Bilderbergers. The Bilderbergers are, in turn, controlled by the Illuminati.

    The HGF

    So who, or what, are the OPPT and who is behind them pulling the strings?

    The documents produced by the OPPT have some glaring errors; so glaring that they must be deliberate.

    The first time I saw anything from the OPPT; it included the date 1776 as being the date that the American Constitution was signed. I knew immediately that there was something wrong.

    Then, I read what the OPPT were claiming they had achieved and the reasons why. My initial thought was: they have broken their own law as they did not ask my permission to act on my behalf, removing my free choice of actions.

    HGF stands for Human Gullibility Factor.

    The OPPT documents and claims have been put out there to gauge how gullible we are. The spreading of the “Drake” material was a first stage – would people really believe that someone could do what “Drake” was claiming? Most people, who were aware of the Drake claims, obviously did.

    The next stage is how do we judge if people are ready for the New World Order?

    Into this steps the OPPT. How many people actually checked out the OPPT claims other than through the OPPT website? It must be extremely few otherwise nobody would be defending or promoting the OPPT.

    For one minute actually think about the implications of what the OPPT claim to have achieved:

    - The abolition of governments
    - The abolition of banks and financial institutions
    - The abolition of companies

    If governments are removed, who would supply the necessary public services that governments do?

    There would be no emergency services. There would be no hospitals. There would be no refuse collections.

    There would be no state financial benefits and there would be no state pensions.

    If the banks and financial institutions were removed what would happen?

    We have seen in recent years that if there is any threat to the banks, they immediately foreclose on loans, making people bankrupt. They also foreclose on mortgages, making people homeless.

    If companies are abolished, who would pay wages and salaries?

    Without the government financial benefits and without banks to turn to, there is no money supply so everyone starves.

    Without companies, who would supply electricity, drinking water, sewerage disposal and mains gas?

    In short, there would be total anarchy as the millions of homeless and penniless people fight amongst each other for the next scrap of food or the next drink of water.

    The natural outcome of this anarchy is that people would look for someone to save them. Into this need for help would step the New World Order offering One World Government and a single world-wide currency – everything that the Illuminati/NWO want.

    Conclusions

    We do not need laws to grant us freedom of choice. Freedom of choice is the underlying concept on which all laws, and even this Universe is built. We have, and have always had, the right to act as we choose and to take responsibility for those actions. It is only when society considers that certain actions are unacceptable that laws have been written to define a punishment that is appropriate when one person has acted in such a way as to remove the freedom of choice of another. Freedom of choice is an intrinsic part of who we are and how society functions so the OPPT claims that they have written a law that grants us freedom of choice is totally meaningless.

    The OPPT is a classic “Hegelian dialectic” as described by the Illuminati: the Illuminati want to bring about a situation which they know nobody would ever accept. So to achieve their aims, they deliberately bring about a set of circumstances which are so horrifying that people demand they do what they wanted to do all along – a one world government and a one world currency and a reduction of the global population down to 500 million.

    Fortunately, the actions claimed by the OPPT cannot happen. Their documents and reasoning is so flawed that they cannot ever become law. But, what the OPPT have achieved is a census of human gullibility so that the Illuminati now know how to word future Hegelian dialectics to achieve their aims.

    On the 21st of December 2012, we saw the arrival of massive new energies into our solar system that are designed to bring about change. What we are seeing here is the first of the Illuminati/NWO/Cabal backlashes against this positive energy.

    There is only one way to change our world from the current human-made mess, and that is to undergo soul re-integration. All of the positive energies are in place to enable this to happen. What is needed now is the will of each individual to fulfil their potential.

    That way, we can all gradually and smoothly change our world to one where everyone benefits without panic or problems – think about it because nobody is going to do it for you.
    The OPPT, The UCC And The HGF By Chris Thomas.
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    You'd do well to read through all the filings and declarations at www.peoplestrust1776.org http://www.peoplestrust1776.org

    This is real, bulletproof material that will stand up to any test. Winston Shrout himself had a discussion with Heather that you may not be aware of. It occurred after Shrout's comments so she could fully clarify her means and methods for doing as she had done. You'd do well to read through the material with an open heart mind as this is to come to pass by months end...The Shift in Consciousness needs to take place at the Spring Vernal Equinox first. Then you, by choice, as the CVAC, can move into the new world with infinite abundance. The truth will set you free, literally. I know this material. I've tested this material. I've lived this material and it is real. Take it to multiple attorney's and you will see. The Law of ONE, is the Way into the future. It is not to be projected with a linear thought pattern of the 3D mind. The 3D mind cannot fix the problems we face. The shift will bring the universal mind into being and you'll be a part of it, if you choose. Have you studied the Law of ONE? The teachings of RA?

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    Quote Posted by genevieve (here)
    It's difficult for me to wrap my mind around the UCC filing, but it seems to make sense that every human being is a trustee of the Earth for the Creator.
    I've read and listened to Chris Thomas, but I don't know where he gets his info, so how trustworthy is he?
    Are Frank O'Collins and Winston Shrout so immersed in their ways of thinking that they can't see a new way?
    I'm with Daozen on this, watching and waiting and learning. It certainly has prompted some interesting new directions in thinking and imagining.

    OPPT Commentary


    Now that you bring up Winston Shrout, let's have a look at what this man has to say about this...



    The OPPT has said they have filed a national UCC1 Financial Statement that will lead to foreclose on several banks.
    - There is a big difference between filing a UCC1 Financial Statement & recording a UCC1 Financial Statement.
    - There is a big difference between a National UCC1 form & a State UCC1 form
    - There is a big difference in a Lien & a Notice of Lien
    -Filing a national UCC1 Form does not create a lien, it does not create a liability, it cannot be used to make a foreclosure on something. It cannot be used to arrest the accounts of banks, i.e. Federal Reserve, IMF, BIS.
    -The filing of a National UCC1 Form (which the OPPT people say they have done) is strictly a Notice. It is not a lien, hence, cannot be used to foreclose on anything.
    -a Lien vs a Levy
    -a Lien goes after the title of the thing.
    -a Levy goes after the thing itself.
    -Its not possible to foreclose on anything by filing a UCC1 Financial Statement! It is simply a Notice.
    cheers - turiya
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    Here is the response from Heather to Winston regarding to what he had to say...http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2...of-planet.html This is for real. There are many things going on behind the scenes to make sure of a smooth transition and timing coincides with heavens directive.
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    Quote Posted by Quantum1 (here)
    This is for real. There are many things going on behind the scenes to make sure of a smooth transition and timing coincides with heavens directive.
    I don't understand what this means. Heavens directive?
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    Found this floating around on various groups in different forms. Worth a read after Monday's show.

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    What I Like And What Sucks About the OPPT Call In Shows

    I tune in to the OPPT shows because I like deep analysis of underground financial movements, hard to find rumors, and transcendental legal news.

    Imagine my surprise ,when instead of hearing the latest deep fiscal and legal news, I found myself listening to Cheeseball Condescension Hour (CCH). Lisa and Chris hardly got a word in this week.

    When I tune into Lisa's show I don't need:

    -Endless meandering pontifications about the deep meaning of OPPT.
    -Speeches about how we're the value and we're the CVACS oh man only we're too dumb to get it.
    -How you're tripping out on some dumbass wave of cosmic energy.
    -Droning on about how no one's going to come and save us.


    ***

    You're broadcasting to a diverse and often highly intelligent group of financiers, bankers, meditators, musicians, farmers, scientists, and military who know the score, and have made considerable sacrifices in their fields.

    Think what it feels like when they dial in to todays 'broadcast', and hear a couple of condescending young guys that insist on grinding out the same old points again and again and again like we're a bunch of thumb-sucking morons in a flophouse.

    Wait: If I want to learn piano, I-have-to-do-it-all-by-myself? No way. You're kidding! Oh wait a minute! That's an *a-n-a-l-o-g-y* right? To *illustrate-a-point* to the sheeplike listeners about the concept of SELF RESPONSIBILITY.

    *

    I'm sure Caleb has put his life on the line for this movement, and am sincerely grateful for the risks he has taken, and his intelligence. I know he was only speaking his mind. I know Brian has a lot of positivity and energy.

    BUT:

    I'm dog tired of hearing:

    - Don't you guys get it YOU ARE A CVAC!! So many people don't GET THAT yet. You are the power man. YOU ARE THE VALUE. OK thanks. Point taken FIRST TIME.

    - WOoooahhh. Zomg did you feel the energy the other day... yeah I was rushing, were you? AndIreadthedocumentsagainandIburstintotearscosI had this realisation and then I had a dream and so did my friend zomg omgitmustbethephotonbeltwoooooooooooo waaaaa.

    - Endless metaphors, explanations, tedious conceptualising and rehashing of the Trust's basic philosophy. The OPPT is a hammer, the OPPT is a screwdriver, the OPPT is like a powerdrill, the OPPT is a cable no wait the OPPT is like a frisbee.

    - The NO ONE'S COMING ON A HORSE TO RESCUE YOU speech blah blah blah. We got that 50 frickin times in one show thank you very much.

    The "You're your own leader routine". Hey maaaan, we're not leaders you know?
    ***

    We've heard the above ***dozens*** of times these past weeks.

    BLAH BLAH BLAH.

    We come listening for financial and legal intel, instead we get refried wizdom.

    WE KNOW. WE GET IT.

    ***

    The Monday show's s'posed to be about CVACs and Courtesy Notices. Tuesday is psychobabble freak-out sound-of-your-own-voice day. It's getting BORING.

    Just stop with the multidimensional pep talks already, please..

    *

    We all support, love and like you all, and I'm sure its tough to be left hanging when you can't get hold of Heather. But please cut down on the blithering + cheese. I feel Lisa and Chris are often drowned out by the pontificators. We need pragmatism and focus in the shows, and people are slowly starting to walk all over the hosts.

    Christ I feel sorry for the transcription team this week!!!

    But screw it. All will be well. It can only get more fun from here (I hope).

    Onward!
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    Quantum1 wrote:
    Quote Your link is a bogus link and would clearly explain your warped opinion of the OPPT. You will know by the end of this month. The truth will be known.
    Quantum1 also wrote:
    Quote This is real, bulletproof material that will stand up to any test. Winston Shrout himself had a discussion with Heather that you may not be aware of. It occurred after Shrout's comments so she could fully clarify her means and methods for doing as she had done. You'd do well to read through the material with an open heart mind as this is to come to pass by months end...The Shift in Consciousness needs to take place at the Spring Vernal Equinox first. Then you, by choice, as the CVAC, can move into the new world with infinite abundance. The truth will set you free, literally. I know this material. I've tested this material. I've lived this material and it is real. Take it to multiple attorney's and you will see. The Law of ONE, is the Way into the future. It is not to be projected with a linear thought pattern of the 3D mind. The 3D mind cannot fix the problems we face. The shift will bring the universal mind into being and you'll be a part of it, if you choose. Have you studied the Law of ONE? The teachings of RA?
    And If I did not study the Law of One... If I did not study the teachings of RA... If I paid no attention to the channeled messages of an alien race that may have ulterior motive(s)... then what?
    According to you, would that throw me into some sort of hell? Would I be then thought to be a lesser human being than you? Would I then be categorized a heretic, barred from entering the new found heaven on Earth that you seem to claim that you are ushering in with something called an OPPT?

    The words that are written... your words, are not words that show acceptance for another's 'freedom of choice'. On the contrary, they carry an arrogance... they have a condemnatory tone, there is an aggressive feel, they are masculine in nature. Reading between the lines, they lack the quality of seduction, honor & respect for others.
    I am not impressed in the least. You may do well to listen to one that emanates the art...

    Audio Recording: https://ucadia.s3.amazonaws.com/audi..._broadcast.mp3

    Ucadia Blog (In part.)

    Frank O'Collins:
    [I]ndeed in recent weeks and months, with the huge interest that has exploded in concepts like trusts or in concepts like estates, the great promise that is being offered out there and hung up for sale, to be sold to people at the moment, is this idea of freedom, and that somehow, in some way, and in some cases, in some overly simplified, and as yet unclear manner, that a wand is waved and somehow all our problems can disappear. Where we may feel that we are slaves of wages, we may feel that we are slaves of obligation and we may feel oppressed by militarized police or a sense of harassment, that somehow all these things can be made to go away and we can find some form of freedom.

    These audios, in fact this article and audio is part of the promise where we do, in fact, offer the hope for a level of freedom for those that choose to listen and those that choose to read. The reason I am able to say with a degree of confidence that if you have the time to listen to this audio, read the blog, then I believe there is some hope of freedom for all those that choose (to listen and read). The ancient and most well-known maxim states that the truth shall set you free. The truth shall set you free. The maxim doesn’t say that the fancy promise shall set you free; it doesn’t say that the lies set you free or the confusion sets you free, or the different coded-colored material sets you free. The phrase from John (8:32) of the Bible says "know the truth and the truth shall set you free". Let me qualify that ancient maxim as to what I am saying: knowledge of the truth shall set you free. If truth sets you free, then knowledge of the truth clearly is a stepping stone to being free.

    This is one of the challenges we find at the moment, where on the one hand there are deliberate dis-information agents, people who are being paid by various interests to spin and propagate material that is clearly false. It’s not wholly false; if something is wholly false then most people, I would suggest the majority (of people) would be able to discern that it is false. Instead what they are propagating is the most poisonous, dangerous, malevolent, awful, evil acts that are the half-truths. They are taking information one site and corrupting it so that it is no longer true; it is only half-true. Not every one of these people is a paid agent. Some are dealing with their own issues, their own desire to be famous, their own desire to address their own issues, or self-proclaimed gurus who are people who have done no work but copied like crows and take things and claim them. Whatever their reasons, they are masking for many, many people the ability to discern what is true and what is false.
    http://blog.ucadia.com/2013/03/estat...they-work.html
    Best regards - turiya
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    The sovereignty movement is not new, for those who are enamored with the OPPT, those of us who have been around the movement for decades are not so enamored. We've seen these kinds of Notices and Declarations before, many times, in many forms.

    Here is a "hit" piece on the sovereignty movement, which I do not endorse, as it is just that, a hit piece full of lies, but it does illustrate some of the permutations and the pitfalls.

    http://archive.adl.org/learn/soverei...ent_report.pdf
    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhS69C1tr0w

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    Just raking the muck.... and passing on another point of view: From Zen :

    Quote OPPT Illuminati & Occult Ties Revealed
    Monday, March 18th, 2013.

    By Paul Short
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    ZenGardner.com

    OPPT, or the One People’s Public Trust has been getting a lot of attention over the past few weeks. It’s allegedly a trust set up by a small group of people, headed by a lady named Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf who filed a slew of UCC documents that led to the foreclosure of the world’s governments, banks and corporations, thus, freeing mankind from government tyranny, debt slavery and corporate policy disguised as law.

    There’s no doubt in most people’s minds that governments, banks and corporations are corrupt, especially given the current financial climate and extreme degree of government control over the lives of people around the world. So awareness is high and mainstream and the alternative media alike are relentlessly pumping out headline after apocalyptic headline shouting about how we’re on the edge of war and financial collapse, loss of freedoms through agendas like gun control and climate change, and imminent terror threats from enemies foreign and domestic.

    Yet the people at OPPT HQ have not been arrested for attempting to overthrow the government? Anyway…

    People are being force-fed fear-porn like never before so naturally they crave peace and security. Who in their right mind wouldn’t?

    People are ready right now to leap off the edge of their seats and join the first freedom fighter claiming to have taken down the elites.

    Enter OPPT. I first heard about them around two weeks ago and didn’t really pay much attention. But the din of “We’re Free! to DO and BE” kept pushing it from the periphery and into view. Freedom? The governments have been foreclosed on? The elite group of psychopaths enslaving humanity have been dethroned? You better darn well believe I was going to BE looking into that.

    Optimistic, I rolled up my sleeves and started doing my research. But it didn’t take long for my mental siren to start wailing. The first thing that set it off was that they claim to have freed all of the one people on earth by using the elites tools of control against them on the one people’s behalf. They set up a trust and bonded everyone to it all without anyone’s knowledge or consent. Thus, giving them their rights back.

    ‘Scuse me? No one does anything on my behalf without my consent. No one bonds me to anything and no one gives me rights. You’re born with rights. Rights given are privileges.

    So I lit the midnight oil, put the coffee pot on and dug in. Here are more of the things I found:

    They’re promoting one people, one consciousness, one world government, one world digital currency, one this one that collective… everything — a “new paradigm.” Sounds like the New World Order or NWO the conspiracy theorists, myself included, have been investigating for years now. But it gets better – they’re piggybacking a religious or spiritual belief system on top of it and talking about “light beings” and other newage stuff.

    I found quite a few inconsistencies in their documents as well. Their CVAC Filing (PDF) is a financing statement registered with the US government under the UCC, or Universal Commercial Code. Yes, that’s the same set of policy the elites used as one of the tools to enslave us. At the top of page 2, you see this:...........
    http://www.zengardner.com/oppt-illum...ties-revealed/
    "Vision without action is merely a dream.
    Action without vision just passes the time.
    Vision with action can change the world." Joel Arthur Barker

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    I've been listening to this for some hours now and this is something that if it's true, it could change everything.... everything we want to change...

    I still have a lot more listening and reading to do but I thought this is basically one of the most important things we have been waiting for and I couldn't wait any longer to share it with all Avalon members. According to the videos, the end of our slavery has already begun, all institutions have been foreclosure on, and it was done using the same tool they used to deceive and enslave us: the Uniform Code of Commerce.

    Please listen to the videos, post all information you can gather and let's discuss!

    Again, if true, this is the best news we've had in a very long time and we need to prepare for the new paradigm.

    The One Peoples Trust consist of everybody living on the planet.

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