The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[TraineeHuman]

Freed Fox, one problem is that the mind is a very subtle thing. Unfortunately, all that we have to communicate with in an internet Forum is words (and maybe symbols, which are still the same thing). Unfortunately we can’t use telepathy – not with accuracy – even though that is the preferred method of communication for many beings, and even for animals. Because we’re confined to words, it’s easy for the reader to get trapped. Unless the reader has fully experienced what the writer of a post may have their attention on, the reader necessarily fails to “get” the moon the writer can see, and is left only with a finger pointing in the general direction of the moon.

This problem remains regardless of how clearly or accurately or whatever some of the words in a description may be. So, it’s unfortunately likely that any exercise someone describes that’s intended to lead the reader to something new won’t get done properly. This is because the reader only has the old, and they’re almost kind of forced to use the old to try to get the new. In doing so, their mind will complicate everything no end. Their mind will try to adjust for the misinterpretation of the intended message. That misinterpretation isn’t the mind’s fault even, not directly. But the end result is gigantic overthinking and also even more worry about the “how” when what’s mainly important is the “what”. What you do.

I would bet that if somebody with professional training was actually there getting you to do the steps in the exercise in #10, or in Raduga’s method, they would tell you things such as to relax more, to stop all worry if you are doing things right. And then, I believe, the odds of your doing it successfully would increase. Maybe everyone needs to get their partner to guide them, and to insist that they do all the worrying about whether you’re doing things “right”.

Also, in the case of #10 it's essential that the person takes lots of time on each step, until they've successfully done the step. I appreciate some steps require stretching the imagination -- which is no doubt half the point of the exercise. But if the person says they can't visualise e.g. seeing some detail of their front door that they've never noticed before, it's crucial that they wait and get their imagination to make up such a detail somehow, so vividly that they "see" it in their mind even if maybe it could be pure fantasy, before moving on to the next step. At that step, again, if the person gets a blank, they have to really use their imagination to fill in the "blanks".

[TraineeHuman]

Considering that that was your first experience, Freed Fox, I’d be inclined just to emphasize: “Congratulations on disidentifying from your body!” After all, the matrix tries to control us by keeping us so identified with our bodies that we don’t realise we’re infinite beings.

Of course we also need to be attuned with our physical body. But with that understood, I’d say: “Just keep on disidentifying (and protect yourself properly)”. The rest is just details.

[Eram]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
As far as I can see, such “standing” partly means just truly liking yourself and accepting yourself.

This may sound quite trite, but I’ve observed that most people secretly neither like nor accept themselves. I guess it’s a gradual process. Meditation seems to help accelerate that process. So also does self-enquiry / self-observation, which is a kind of looking at oneself in the mirror emotionally rather than in the astral.

This feels very true to me TraineeHuman.
Self-inquiry /self-observation has always been my forte, but I used to do it with a judgmental attitude, which brought me insight in my persona and life in general, but did not bring me relief in suffering,... at all.
No surprise there of course .

A few months ago I followed up on an idea that I got and I believe that his is the cause (partly at least) at my recent progression in my development.
I scan myself for feelings of unease, nervousness that it itching at the borders of my consciousness and identify what it is.
Mostly it are judgments that my 'inner parent' is making to my 'inner child' at that moment that is causing this unease.
"You are not trying hard enough, you are not strong enough, you are not performing enough"... things like this.
Then I focus on the 'inner child' and his feelings, where I can feel hurting and regret.
Then I give my inner child a big hug in the understanding that this inner child has the best of intentions.

I do this exercise only 3 to 5 times a day and there are days that i don't do it at all, but I can sense that there is a shift taking place in me and I suspect that this exercise has to do with it.
I feel more at ease with myself and with the people around me. More and more of my judgmental nature is fading away it seems and what is taking it's place is more warmth and being at peace.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if my connecting to my Higher Self has a foundation in this exercise

[Finefeather]

Posted by Eram (here)
It wouldn't surprise me at all if my connecting to my Higher Self has a foundation in this exercise

Hi Eram
Sorry to be rude and interject, your post just popped up out of no where, and I read it and...well ??

So then if it will not surprise you then you must be secretly expecting it...is this inner knowing blossoming?
An important hurdle to bridge is realizing the oneness of what we think we are and the thing we call the Higher Self.
We can soon recognize this Higher part of us because...it is the one in our head who is, more sane, more loving, more honest, more reasonable, more reliable...anything less is just the battle with the old outer ways. There will come a time when the Higher Self...also known as the Soul is in full command of our life...this is the day we all look forward to secretly and when it comes we often end up walking around with a big grin on our face...knowing full well we knew the answer all the time.
Take care
Ray

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Eram (here)

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
As far as I can see, such “standing” partly means just truly liking yourself and accepting yourself.

This may sound quite trite, but I’ve observed that most people secretly neither like nor accept themselves. I guess it’s a gradual process. Meditation seems to help accelerate that process. So also does self-enquiry / self-observation, which is a kind of looking at oneself in the mirror emotionally rather than in the astral.

... I scan myself for feelings of unease, nervousness that it itching at the borders of my consciousness and identify what it is.
Mostly it are judgments that my 'inner parent' is making to my 'inner child' at that moment that is causing this unease.
"You are not trying hard enough, you are not strong enough, you are not performing enough"... things like this.
Then I focus on the 'inner child' and his feelings, where I can feel hurting and regret.
Then I give my inner child a big hug in the understanding that this inner child has the best of intentions.

I do this exercise only 3 to 5 times a day and there are days that i don't do it at all, but I can sense that there is a shift taking place in me and I suspect that this exercise has to do with it.
I feel more at ease with myself and with the people around me. More and more of my judgmental nature is fading away it seems and what is taking it's place is more warmth and being at peace.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if my connecting to my Higher Self has a foundation in this exercise

So your “inner parent” is now very different from the older version of your “inner parent”. From what you say, it has now learnt to be completely nonjudgmental. It must have learnt that from your HS?
Sounds like it may even be relaying some messages, or parts of messages, from the HS?
Also, that your inner child is calming down enough to help the “parent” listen to what it’s receiving.

One thing I find amazing is how the HS knows no limits for itself. At every moment, it knows how to make absolutely everything right. It lives in the Now. But it also knows that it needs to patiently work with the outer self, which includes what people call the inner child. And it waits for those special moments when a person's outer self can make everything in a relationship or a job or whatever right, to fix everything that was broken.

[TraineeHuman]

Eram, I was reflecting on how you were taking guidance or reassurance from your “inner parent”, which I would see as (mostly) your HS, to be honest. I suddenly realised why for the last five years on these Forums I’ve urged people passionately to be their own spiritual teacher as far as they can.

The realization that hit me is that all the words on the Forum can only get to the mind, to the outer self. They can’t talk to the HS. That's impossible, through just words alone. All they can do is help a person develop the right kind of mindset (including will power probably, and wholesome habits). It needs of course to be a mindset that kind of points to the HS and that welcomes the HS as the HS starts to communicate and come down. (If anybody’s tired of my saying “HS” all the time, call it what you like. “The Force”, or whatever.)

Once anybody starts engaging their HS, even starts to communicate with it, from then on they have to be their own authority, their own guru. (As Jesus says in the Gospel: "Let anyone who has once put their hand to the plough and dug never turn back.") I’ve seen quite a few followers of teachers or gurus who hated this and refused to accept it, yet it seems to be the very thing that was holding them back.

So, for instance, my preferred way to go OB is to call down my HS and let it take over that task. I don’t worry about whether I’m doing some technique or some detail right or not. Instead, I’m guided by my inner intuitive knowing of what details may be relevant. That works, and I’m sorry to say it’s the easy way to astral travel – but only if you have that connection with your HS consciously set up.

[nevermnd]

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[TraineeHuman]

Posted by nevermnd (here)

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
Once anybody starts engaging their HS, even starts to communicate with it, from then on they have to be their own authority, their own guru. (As Jesus says in the Gospel: "Let anyone who has once put their hand to the plough and dug never turn back.") I’ve seen quite a few followers of teachers or gurus who hated this and refused to accept it, yet it seems to be the very thing that was holding them back.

I think that's very profound to put this in the open here.
Your unparalleled objectivity is such a big breath of fresh air. The idea of "I'm your guru for life" so strongly expressed by many spiritual masters was always a strong turn off for me.

What also come to mind is a quote that I seemed to remember from much earlier in this thread:

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
I once experienced a situation where I was massively cheated by a very clever individual. I asked my clairvoyant advisor – one of the most accurate of the many clairvoyants I have known – and she said there was nothing I would be able to do about this exploitation, because that individual had a higher level of consciousness/awareness than myself, at least where it counted. Certainly that individual would eventually have to deal with his life-review when he dies. But the ruling elite ultimately can only stay in power by in some way or other trapping very many highly aware/conscious individuals in childhood and keeping them in their ranks.

Through the experiences that you had over many years, good and bad, are you able to recongnise the warning sings/red flags when somone is trying to cheat you ? Financially, spiritually or in any immoral way for that matter.
If the con artist does have a level of awareness much higher than oneself, is there nothing we can do but to get defrauded?

It's all about intuition, developing our intuition. And our intuition is part of our HS, so it's a matter of more and more allowing our HS to stand in its power and hearing it better and listening to it more fully. Even before we learn to communicate with our HS, the signs are often there, the omens are often there -- warnings from GAs, guides, even briefly the HS.

Sometimes there are no warnings because it's better if we learn through making that particular mistake. After all, the best way to learn in any field is through making at least a few mistakes along the way. Beethoven used to write far more drafts of his music than any other composer.

But even if I assume my HS is taking a "no comment" position regarding something, if I'm wrong about that then my HS will pull me down into the lower astral during dreams to make sure I at least get the message that something's wrong regarding a current major choice.

Our failure to hear the warnings, if they come, has three causes. One is the distortion or "noise" coming from our baggage. Hopefully we are all busily getting rid of most of that. While it's still mostly there, it's often too big an obstacle to hearing our HS.

The second cause is that we haven't "sharpened" our intuition enough. That also takes a long time to do. The exercise in #24 was intended as a start in this, and contains the essential "ingredients" that need to be developed.

The third cause is that -- as when my HS, in desperation, brings on nightmares -- we simply haven't been putting our attention on the area where the problem is, and haven't noticed our HS is concerned about it.

[Chester]

Hi TH and Folks - Last night I had a lengthy, multi-event vivid dream with Barack Obama. In fact, I was a special 9undercover) agent within the Secret Service where I had to protect him.

Now here's is the weirdest part. In my waking, conscious state, I have gotten extremely sick of this guy. Why? Because he is an obvious, constant, no-conscience liar. When he happens to come onto a TV or radio I am listening to, I turn it off just because I am sick of this guy.

YET! In the dream, I loved him. Yes... I felt pure love and admiriation and appreciation for him. I recall one part in the dream where he was making a public appearance and was wearing an "aviation jacket" (and I do not even know what that would be in my waking state... but in the dream, when he came out wearing this jacket, I recall saying to myself, "wow... what a cool guy... and look, he is wearing an aviation jacket." I also recall feeling an awesome sense of self pride in that it was my job to help protect him. I also recalled that I had this strange sense he could be in danger because he truly wanted to help humanity and was not afraid to go against the PTBs. The jacket was a very light, pastel color of purple... I guess a light shade of lavender.

It is 13 or more hours after the dream and I still recall this specific part and believe (like my other dreams involving presidents) I will remember this dream for years.

Now, in my waking state, I feel bad for him. I feel bad for people... all of us... that we are so easily manipulated and that we could sell out for ideals shared by a few or for cronies we have buddied up with or for an image of a legacy we might want to leave... sell out at any cost, including being 100% totally and knowingly dishonest and being able to do so with such a strait face... like I see Barack Obama to be in my waking state.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by justonewookiee (here)
Last night I had a lengthy, multi-event vivid dream with Barack Obama. In fact, I was a special 9undercover) agent within the Secret Service where I had to protect him.

Now here's is the weirdest part. In my waking, conscious state, I have gotten extremely sick of this guy. Why? Because he is an obvious, constant, no-conscience liar. When he happens to come onto a TV or radio I am listening to, I turn it off just because I am sick of this guy.

YET! In the dream, I loved him. Yes... I felt pure love and admiriation and appreciation for him.... It is 13 or more hours after the dream and I still recall this specific part and believe (like my other dreams involving presidents) I will remember this dream for years.

Hi Chester, one remark I would make is that hate is a form of attachment. And although at a conscious physical level we like to think of hate as a kind of avoidance and disconnection, the truth is it’s merely a left-handed or shadow form of attachment. (Not thinking of that luminous green elephant in the room.) Attachment isn’t far from what many people may sometimes think of as “love”.

I note that in your dream you also seemed strongly attached to being important because you were responsible for protecting Obama. But you don’t need Obama to make you important. You’re equally valuable and beautiful – and, I suspect, probably much more of a character, in a good way.

As long as anyone is preoccupied with hate or infatuation, they’re in the grip of their baggage, which I like to call “(most of) the personality” but many call “the ego”. I’m sure much has already been written in this Forum regarding the ego. It’s absolutely essential for everyone to learn to stop letting their ego have much control over them at all. Also to learn not to let it infect their mind. The ego, the personality just isn’t important. You have to learn now not to ever let your mind take part in the ego’s dramatizing of everything. You need to disconnect the mind from all that, and detach, push out from it. The only way to do this is to make the will calm and steady. Yes, it does take will power at this point.

Your ego has been fighting back for some time by pulling your strings and hitting you with depression. N'est pas? (Yes, it’s a living thing, and even has a little awareness.) That depression it sinks you into is just your ego pouting. Your ego – everyone’s ego – is an idiot, unless and until perhaps it gets enlightened by the HS sufficiently to get some sense into it so it no longer feels so dissatisfied and so unrecognized. I don’t just mean your ego, Chester. Everybody’s ego is basically the same. You can only beat it by staying calm and steady. And by practice at “turning the volume down” of everything that unhappy brat says, turning it down softer so that after some time you’re virtually ignoring it all the time. But you have to keep up that calm, steady, peaceful strength of will. Softly does it. I'm afraid this also means throwing away all your gigantic attachment to your dreams involving Presidents. That attachment is a heavy burden. Believe me,it will be a huge relief for you when you finally just drop it.

The HS lives in peace. That peace is free from all polarities, such as “love”/hate, pleasure/pain, excitement/boredom, like/dislike. (It’s not a blank either, because some things are their own opposite, and therefore beyond all duality: real “love”, understanding, real joy, being, certain types of goodness, and so on.)

[TraineeHuman]

For the benefit of anyone who hasn’t seen the “Activating Higher Mind” thread in the Books, Videos, Articles, etc. sub-section of General Discussion, thanks to Luise Filipe there’s a fascinating video in post #5 there.

In that video Drunvalo explains how to do-it-yourself to “activate” the connection from the pineal gland (the mind) to the heart, in a very short space of time. At the beginning of the video Drunvalo explains that he sees the proper reconnection between the mind and the heart as what real “Ascension” is all about -- and hence, implicitly, he sees this as making communication with the HS easier. It’s clear that such “activation” also extends to the oversoul point.

Here’s the link:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTNtPk_S7Og

I find this very interesting and eerily familiar personally for the following reason. Although I “activated” my crown chakra many years ago so that I sometimes feel physical energies flowing through the top of the head, more recently there was a period of around five years when my guardian angels would work on my pineal chakra every time I meditated each day. It would feel at least vaguely uncomfortable, and usually felt either physically cool or like a silent buzzing, or both. I was aware this had something to do with improving or extending the connection with my heart and with my physical body intelligence generally. I suspect that at the beginning of those five years part of what was being done was the equivalent of the exercise Drunvalo describes. Various details fit exactly with some things Drunvalo describes.

[Chester]

I wanted to post a specific post but I then felt bad as my post might be viewed as disruptive... If asked, I may post in a new, separate thread. Chester

[wolfgaze]

Cool thread. I am going to have to read through all 24 pages when I get a chance. I am currently exploring the Outer-Body-Experience phenomenon and reading a book entitled 'Astral Dynamics' by Robert Bruce. I also have other books on this subject matter but haven't gotten to them yet. Never had an OBE outside of the dream state but I hope to change that soon. : )

[kintun]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by justonewookiee (here)
Last night I had a lengthy, multi-event vivid dream with Barack Obama. In fact, I was a special 9undercover) agent within the Secret Service where I had to protect him.

Now here's is the weirdest part. In my waking, conscious state, I have gotten extremely sick of this guy. Why? Because he is an obvious, constant, no-conscience liar. When he happens to come onto a TV or radio I am listening to, I turn it off just because I am sick of this guy.

YET! In the dream, I loved him. Yes... I felt pure love and admiriation and appreciation for him.... It is 13 or more hours after the dream and I still recall this specific part and believe (like my other dreams involving presidents) I will remember this dream for years.

Hi Chester, one remark I would make is that hate is a form of attachment. And although at a conscious physical level we like to think of hate as a kind of avoidance and disconnection, the truth is it’s merely a left-handed or shadow form of attachment. (Not thinking of that luminous green elephant in the room.) Attachment isn’t far from what many people may sometimes think of as “love”.

I note that in your dream you also seemed strongly attached to being important because you were responsible for protecting Obama. But you don’t need Obama to make you important. You’re equally valuable and beautiful – and, I suspect, probably much more of a character, in a good way.

As long as anyone is preoccupied with hate or infatuation, they’re in the grip of their baggage, which I like to call “(most of) the personality” but many call “the ego”. I’m sure much has already been written in this Forum regarding the ego. It’s absolutely essential for everyone to learn to stop letting their ego have much control over them at all. Also to learn not to let it infect their mind. The ego, the personality just isn’t important. You have to learn now not to ever let your mind take part in the ego’s dramatizing of everything. You need to disconnect the mind from all that, and detach, push out from it. The only way to do this is to make the will calm and steady. Yes, it does take will power at this point.

Your ego has been fighting back for some time by pulling your strings and hitting you with depression. N'est pas? (Yes, it’s a living thing, and even has a little awareness.) That depression it sinks you into is just your ego pouting. Your ego – everyone’s ego – is an idiot, unless and until perhaps it gets enlightened by the HS sufficiently to get some sense into it so it no longer feels so dissatisfied and so unrecognized. I don’t just mean your ego, Chester. Everybody’s ego is basically the same. You can only beat it by staying calm and steady. And by practice at “turning the volume down” of everything that unhappy brat says, turning it down softer so that after some time you’re virtually ignoring it all the time. But you have to keep up that calm, steady, peaceful strength of will. Softly does it. I'm afraid this also means throwing away all your gigantic attachment to your dreams involving Presidents. That attachment is a heavy burden. Believe me,it will be a huge relief for you when you finally just drop it.

The HS lives in peace. That peace is free from all polarities, such as “love”/hate, pleasure/pain, excitement/boredom, like/dislike. (It’s not a blank either, because some things are their own opposite, and therefore beyond all duality: real “love”, understanding, real joy, being, certain types of goodness, and so on.)

Hi!
I was thinking so much in the fact that polarity is part of our nature, part of being human. And also judgment.
Fear comes out of that.
If we see something or someone different or strange or ugly while in meditation or in OBE...we first define it as good or bad, and act in consequence. Why?
When we walk along the street and watch trees, bugs, cars, people, weather, lights, clouds, etc. We don't judge them. They just ARE. I would dare say that having that kind of view while working with your HS (say OBE or in meditation) can help improve your confidence and let your fears go away. Our universe is so amazing and diverse!
TraineeHuman has mentioned a couple of times the importance of embracing our dark side to get along with the experience. It's easier when you don't judge it. As if that ugly face was one of somebody you don’t know. Fear comes when you judge it.

Well, just a little reflection here....

[wolfgaze]

When I started reading books on the subject matter of spirituality approx 11 years ago I had recalled reading several authors referencing astral projection and about how an element of our consciousness/soul separates from the physical body during the sleep/dream state but stays connected via a silvery, etheric 'cord'. I could never confirm such assertions but always kept an open mind about them. Well last year I had an interesting experience and keep in mind as I indicated in an earlier post in this thread, I have never had an OBE in the conscious/waking state.

One night last year I had been sleeping in bed (on my stomach as I always do) and I had a conscious recollection of looking down on my body in bed, and then before I knew it my perspective or visual vantage point was back to being in my physical body. I immediately awoke in bed feeling startled and alarmed, the first thought I had was that someone or something was in the room with me or behind me. I was disoriented from having the perspective of looking at my body. I must have fallen back asleep shortly after. However when I awoke in the morning I had full recollection of this experience from the night before. With my better senses I was able to quickly surmise that there was no one and nothing else in the room with me during that experience, that it was in fact ME who was looking down on my body, and that experience of my perspective changing was what gave me the impression of there being someone else in the room with me.

Just another small experience that reaffirmed to me that our consciousness is not confined to our physical body. This experience helped confirm for me what I had read all those years ago about an element of our consciousness/soul separating from the body during the sleep/dream state. : )

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by kintun (here)
If we see something or someone different or strange or ugly while in meditation or in OBE...we first define it as good or bad, and act in consequence. Why?
When we walk along the street and watch trees, bugs, cars, people, weather, lights, clouds, etc. We don't judge them. They just ARE. I would dare say that having that kind of view while working with your HS (say OBE or in meditation) can help improve your confidence and let your fears go away. Our universe is so amazing and diverse!
... It's easier when you don't judge it. As if that ugly face was one of somebody you don’t know. Fear comes when you judge it.

Yep, no initial judgment, and no duality, where possible. I’m greatly in favor of everyone – at whatever “stage” they are at -- finding ways to make non-duality real in their life now, step by small step, in whatever ways they can. Since the HS lives mostly in non-duality, this will bring a person closer to being in touch with their HS, and even closer to Source itself.

Learning to see more things from a nonjudgmental point of view is one of the easiest of these. Just because we see things nonjudgmentally, that sure doesn’t mean we can’t then act on a situation to change it. But first we need to see that situation as it really is. Also, the meditation traditions all teach that the first thing to do is to just pay attention – or to just concentrate on what’s there. You can’t pay attention to what is in a judgmental fashion, because instead of seeing what is you’d be seeing your evaluation of what is (covered with tags such as “like” or “dislike”).

The more strongly you can learn to hold the attitude of nonjudgmentalism steady in you, the more easy and smooth it will be for you to go out and stay OB, that I can guarantee.

It’s rather miraculous – and probably incomprehensible to the mind – that we can move beyond some dualities at all. Eventually there is a point where you feel spread throughout infinity, and that feeling stays with you. And you know for certain that the universe (the multiverse) really is infinite. And that you are somehow inside every self and every manifestation of life here and in every dimension. Some of us have been there.

[Joe Akulis]

Wolfgaze,
Isn't it kinda cool when you reach a point in your studies where you put the book down and realize, "Hey.... I can do this too!"

[nevermnd]

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[nevermnd]

Posted by justonewookiee (here)
I wanted to post a specific post but I then felt bad as my post might be viewed as disruptive... If asked, I may post in a new, separate thread. Chester

I always enjoy reading your posts! I belive that this thread started to go beyond strictly OBE's long time ago

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by wolfgaze (here)
When I started reading books on the subject matter of spirituality approx 11 years ago I had recalled reading several authors referencing astral projection and about how an element of our consciousness/soul separates from the physical body during the sleep/dream state but stays connected via a silvery, etheric 'cord'. I could never confirm such assertions but always kept an open mind about them. Well last year I had an interesting experience and keep in mind as I indicated in an earlier post in this thread, I have never had an OBE in the conscious/waking state.

One night last year I had been sleeping in bed (on my stomach as I always do) and I had a conscious recollection of looking down on my body in bed, and then before I knew it my perspective or visual vantage point was back to being in my physical body. I immediately awoke in bed feeling startled and alarmed, the first thought I had was that someone or something was in the room with me or behind me. I was disoriented from having the perspective of looking at my body. I must have fallen back asleep shortly after. However when I awoke in the morning I had full recollection of this experience from the night before. With my better senses I was able to quickly surmise that there was no one and nothing else in the room with me during that experience, that it was in fact ME who was looking down on my body, and that experience of my perspective changing was what gave me the impression of there being someone else in the room with me.

Just another small experience that reaffirmed to me that our consciousness is not confined to our physical body. This experience helped confirm for me what I had read all those years ago about an element of our consciousness/soul separating from the body during the sleep/dream state. : )

Hi, Wolfgaze. You may like to start with Raduga’s methods at http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf . I know it looks like there are many pages there, but it’s extremely easy and quick to read the initial instructions. And it’s just a matter of doing it. No big deal, really. Just do it. I hope we hear from you again soon regarding your experience.