The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[AwakeInADream]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
For the benefit of anyone who hasn’t seen the “Activating Higher Mind” thread in the Books, Videos, Articles, etc. sub-section of General Discussion, thanks to Luise Filipe there’s a fascinating video in post #5 there.

In that video Drunvalo explains how to do-it-yourself to “activate” the connection from the pineal gland (the mind) to the heart, in a very short space of time. At the beginning of the video Drunvalo explains that he sees the proper reconnection between the mind and the heart as what real “Ascension” is all about -- and hence, implicitly, he sees this as making communication with the HS easier. It’s clear that such “activation” also extends to the oversoul point.

Here’s the link:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTNtPk_S7Og

I find this very interesting and eerily familiar personally for the following reason. Although I “activated” my crown chakra many years ago so that I sometimes feel physical energies flowing through the top of the head, more recently there was a period of around five years when my guardian angels would work on my pineal chakra every time I meditated each day. It would feel at least vaguely uncomfortable, and usually felt either physically cool or like a silent buzzing, or both. I was aware this had something to do with improving or extending the connection with my heart and with my physical body intelligence generally. I suspect that at the beginning of those five years part of what was being done was the equivalent of the exercise Drunvalo describes. Various details fit exactly with some things Drunvalo describes.

I must admit that I've never really given Drunvalo a chance before because I was slightly suspicious of him calling himself Melchizedek (a name which I am drawn to and highly respect). I figured that he must be some kind of fraud trying to attract people to him using such a powerful name, but from watching the video he seems to me to be a genuine guy. Still I'm not about to start following any Guru's just yet, contact with Higher Self beats all Guru's (and any book you can read) hands down.

I really liked the video though and it certainly rang true for me, it explained the merry dance I feel about my brain (more complex than I thought it should be), the 'extra' chakra I sensed at my (receding) hairline and the sides of my head. Synchronicity too since I'd recently been reading about the importance of connecting the heart to the pineal chakra in a document called:
"A Kabbalistic Guide to Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projection"

Here are some selected quotes from the document:

The heart is the seat of intuition, the Voice of the Soul, and the Interior Master, only through its awakening can we become conscious and free beings. However, the energy of the awakened heart, with all of its love, must be transferred to the physical brain for insight and understanding. In doing so, it requires the assistance of the Throat center. Once in the brain, the energy must also be able to return to the heart, or send information there for spiritual consideration....

Just as the pituitary gland reacts to light physical light, it also reacts to the awakening of the spiritual lightcaused by an awakened Heart - a Heart filled with love.....

This need to awaken both the heart and brain, is what is required for travels through the psychic realms. An awakened heart with no brain is subject to an extreme lack of practicality; and a brain with no heart can function psychically, but only in a cold and detached manner. The ‘thinking heart’ and ‘feeling brain’ are what Mercury help us to establish. In doing so, the polarity is overcome through union and the material and remaining psychic forces of our body are brought into play in a harmonious manner.

Available in full here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/133158169/...ral-Projection

There are also exercises to try at the end of the document, from a different perspective/discipline/lense.

Awake

P.S. I think the reason I'm drawn to the Kabbalah is both because it's sole aim is to re-connect with source (which is all I've ever wanted), and that perhaps I was Jewish in a previous (yet close) life. A mind loop I received a while back directly referenced Hitler, and gave me the distinct impression that I was a prisoner in a concentration camp at the time. I've also felt at times a disproportionate anger towards those who align themselves with Nazi ideologies, where my usual calm and philosophical manner breaks down. It's somewhat of a sore point for me, which must have come from the baggage of another lifetime.

P.P.S TraineeHuman, can you explain to me what is the difference between (and meaning of the terms) the Soul and the Oversoul? And how do they relate to the Higher self?

Is the Oversoul God/Source, and the Soul HS?

[kintun]

It’s rather miraculous – and probably incomprehensible to the mind – that we can move beyond some dualities at all. Eventually there is a point where you feel spread throughout infinity, and that feeling stays with you. And you know for certain that the universe (the multiverse) really is infinite. And that you are somehow inside every self and every manifestation of life here and in every dimension. Some of us have been there.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't sure to mention it before, but I have been twice in something I think was the source, or near it.
The first time I was in a lucid dream and my sister told me she had learned how to reach God and wanted to show him to me. So she moved her arms and suddenly I was flying over an ocean of a liquid silvery material. And I joined a flow of sparks of light (I was one of them) which were traveling really fast in the same direction. At that moment I felt myself bursting with bliss, joy and all kind of emotions altogether. ... It was SO SO intense that I couldn't stand it for more than a few seconds. I woke up filled with joy and comprehension and love for everyone and everything (I know it sounds kind of cliché, but that's how it felt). It was like the confirmation that we are all one.
It was a very special experience, full of deep learning....and difficult to explain.

[wolfgaze]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
Hi, Wolfgaze. You may like to start with Raduga’s methods at http://obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf . I know it looks like there are many pages there, but it’s extremely easy and quick to read the initial instructions. And it’s just a matter of doing it. No big deal, really. Just do it. I hope we hear from you again soon regarding your experience.

Thanks very much. I downloaded the pdf and will be looking through it.

[wolfgaze]

Question, do any of you more experienced OBE'ers recommend the use of audio stimulation? The reason I ask is that I am an individual who has difficulty meditating/relaxing in complete silence. I also have very sensitive hearing and live on a busy street with passing traffic that I can hear (which I find distracting).

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Good question. Buhlman has music for OBE on his website, but cannot say how effective it is. I'm still doing various exercises to get out. No success yet that I am aware of.

[kintun]

Posted by wolfgaze (here)
Question, do any of you more experienced OBE'ers recommend the use of audio stimulation? The reason I ask is that I am an individual who has difficulty meditating/relaxing in complete silence. I also have very sensitive hearing and live on a busy street with passing traffic that I can hear (which I find distracting).

I used Monroe's tracks: Journeys out of the body. They worked for me.
Good luck!

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by nevermnd (here)

Posted by justonewookiee (here)
I wanted to post a specific post but I then felt bad as my post might be viewed as disruptive... If asked, I may post in a new, separate thread. Chester

I always enjoy reading your posts! I belive that this thread started to go beyond strictly OBE's long time ago

In the opening post I said I consider detachment to be at the core of spirituality. I may not have made it clear enough in that post that I consider OBEs as just one example of detachment; or that what detachment involves is living with the Higher Self. But I felt the Higher Self needed to be described and pointed at a little before people would know how to begin to experience it or what it really was. I guess if you go with your gut instinct in a situation you are probably to some degree listening to your HS, but only to one part of your HS. And of course beyond the HS there is Source, which the HS is less than a pale shadow of.

I guess I vaguely remember astral traveling about prior to my birth. (My parents never told me they lived a few miles outside my official town of birth, which we had moved out of a month after my birth But twenty-five years ago I went there by train. My intuition, or memory, very definitively identified the place, a village or outer suburb called Golden Grove, where my parents had lived. After returning home I phoned my mum and she confirmed that they hadn’t lived in the town proper, but at Golden Grove. When I got out of the train, without asking directions I walked in almost a straight line across the entire length of the town to the hospital where I had been born. The town has five hospitals, but I picked the right one and somehow knew the shortest route to it from the railway station.) The first OB experiences I consciously remember after being born was when I was six, and it was in 6D or 7D. I mention this because to me it was an experience of transcendence, rather than of being out of the body. There was a park at the end of my street. I went there near sunset and stayed for more than an hour. Throughout that time I experienced a very joyful “space” that extended throughout everything and was intelligent and was always there. Then at seven, I also had an experience of being in 6D or 7D. That experience was dominated by several blinding bright “lights” that were intelligent and could do miraculous things, and in fact taught me how to do remote psychic healing. I don't remember consciously astral travelling in 4D until the age of thirteen, and that was a once off until over ten years later. But I did experience Source directly at fourteen and in subsequent years.

To me the “point” of OBEs is that they’re a partial introduction to the HS. They prove that we interact with and part of us exists on a non-physical, “higher” world. That’s why I’ve had no hesitation in talking about anything that seemed relevant to better understanding non-physical realities and particularly the HS. Also, if people have the courage to be interested in astral travel, then they deserve to be exposed to information about higher realities. All my information comes from direct experience, so it’s not theory, but description of reality.

As far as Chester is concerned, I believe he has to take a "leap of faith (in himself)" to seeing the glass as half-full. You can spend literally forever feeling despondent and victimised. It's up to the individual to make an existential choice to stay calm against the rages of their ego. We all have to do it, and keep on doing it. It would be great to have Libico and Chester stuck on an island together for three days, so that each of these very intelligent and aware individuals could see why the other sees the world and life the way they do.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
TraineeHuman, can you explain to me what is the difference between (and meaning of the terms) the Soul and the Oversoul? And how do they relate to the Higher self?

Is the Oversoul God/Source, and the Soul HS?

Some people use the word “Soul” to mean the HS. There are also some who use it to mean the personality in some sense of that term. Certainly the personality, in any sense, isn’t immortal, whereas your HS is (or at the very least it exists primarily beyond time, even though it also interacts with the world of what we call time).

The Oversoul point is a chakra. The HS can only communicate with us through the Oversoul point, and can only enter, or energise anything in, the physical world through that point. I’m not an expert on the terminology, but as far as I know the term Oversoul (or Overmind) is used in slightly different ways in Vedanta. Sometimes it means the same as the HS, sometimes something more, but still not Source (as far as I know).
Also, the consciousness actually centers itself at, and dwells at, the Oversoul point -- even though an aware person will be grounded and in their body at the same time.

I guess at the level of Source all distinctions start to collapse. It’s more important to one day get to the point where you feel directly that your mind is one with the universal mind, at least sometimes, and ditto regarding your life and the universe’s life. The HS opens the gate for you to feel all these things. You really just need to walk in and take them, so to speak. Set aside all your limitations, and surprise, surprise – you may not need to take some of them back, and one day you won’t need to take any of them back.

The “God” that Christians and Jews pray to – or perhaps imagine they are communicating with -- is their HS, except that in probably rare cases there's some direct contact with Source.

I've been fortunate enough to have experienced direct communication and real conversations with the greatest of all the benevolent Gods (and also briefly with Yeshua and with Judas). Despite the despicable paranoid rantings by people who have had no experience of such beings, I would say you start to appreciate what more full integration with Source truly means when you see how such human beings literally live that.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by nevermnd (here)

Thanks for the link! Fascinating video.
Is that "halo" you talked about in post #455, same halo that the video references to ?

I guess there's only one "halo" around the head, so yes.

I don't favor using the word "halo", though. It seems to imply that some people have it and some don't. But the more we can just be a vessel, and in a certain sense "nothing", to our HS, the better the Force can work through us. So it's not really about having any special "halo".

Also, could you please explain the concept of "resensitization" that was mentioned in the video's description?

As far as I understand, it ultimately means learning to feel all your thoughts as they occur. Also, being better aware of your true feelings.

For any further details, you might need to ask Drunvalo, I guess.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by kintun (here)

I wasn't sure to mention it before, but I have been twice in something I think was the source, or near it.
The first time I was in a lucid dream and my sister told me she had learned how to reach God and wanted to show him to me. So she moved her arms and suddenly I was flying over an ocean of a liquid silvery material. And I joined a flow of sparks of light (I was one of them) which were traveling really fast in the same direction. At that moment I felt myself bursting with bliss, joy and all kind of emotions altogether. ... It was SO SO intense that I couldn't stand it for more than a few seconds. I woke up filled with joy and comprehension and love for everyone and everything (I know it sounds kind of cliché, but that's how it felt). It was like the confirmation that we are all one.
It was a very special experience, full of deep learning....and difficult to explain.

Yes, the light we see in the physical world is only the physical part of something that is divine and totally united, and which may even be divinity or Source itself.

I've considered suggesting that some individuals might like to try "going into the light" as an exercise to get themselves OB. Certainly it's something we do when we die. There's light in 4D, 5D, 6D, ... and so on. And it's different at each level. Just try to find the light, and try to be one with it.

During intensive meditation or at meditation retreats I've found myself deliberately drawing on Light and being very conscious of Light and its circulation through my body (from the infinity of the universe to the oversoul point then down the front of my body to the second chakra, then up the spine and on to the oversoul, then down again to near the centre of the chest). And I'd keep repeating that cycle and a half, over and over. Light is very ... well, light, as in the opposite of heavy or dull or matter-like. Putting attention on it lifts me higher, regardless of how good a space I may have already reached during meditation. But I don't know to what extent this would work for everyone. Why not give the first of these exercises a try, folks? Or even the cycle and a half exercise, though I guess that's more "advanced", even though I've had some amazing results from it.

[soleil]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by kintun (here)
If we see something or someone different or strange or ugly while in meditation or in OBE...we first define it as good or bad, and act in consequence. Why?
When we walk along the street and watch trees, bugs, cars, people, weather, lights, clouds, etc. We don't judge them. They just ARE. I would dare say that having that kind of view while working with your HS (say OBE or in meditation) can help improve your confidence and let your fears go away. Our universe is so amazing and diverse!
... It's easier when you don't judge it. As if that ugly face was one of somebody you don’t know. Fear comes when you judge it.

Yep, no initial judgment, and no duality, where possible. I’m greatly in favor of everyone – at whatever “stage” they are at -- finding ways to make non-duality real in their life now, step by small step, in whatever ways they can. Since the HS lives mostly in non-duality, this will bring a person closer to being in touch with their HS, and even closer to Source itself.

Learning to see more things from a nonjudgmental point of view is one of the easiest of these. Just because we see things nonjudgmentally, that sure doesn’t mean we can’t then act on a situation to change it. But first we need to see that situation as it really is. Also, the meditation traditions all teach that the first thing to do is to just pay attention – or to just concentrate on what’s there. You can’t pay attention to what is in a judgmental fashion, because instead of seeing what is you’d be seeing your evaluation of what is (covered with tags such as “like” or “dislike”).

The more strongly you can learn to hold the attitude of nonjudgmentalism steady in you, the more easy and smooth it will be for you to go out and stay OB, that I can guarantee.

It’s rather miraculous – and probably incomprehensible to the mind – that we can move beyond some dualities at all. Eventually there is a point where you feel spread throughout infinity, and that feeling stays with you. And you know for certain that the universe (the multiverse) really is infinite. And that you are somehow inside every self and every manifestation of life here and in every dimension. Some of us have been there.

this is pure synchronicity from what my HS has been telling me recently (re: training the mind to be in non duality). and I've been working on this(above) daily for a while now, its the longest running daily challenge to date. also, i wanted to say thanks for the drunvalo video and thread mention, i will give that a read today.

TH, i wanted to add that i've experienced seeing astrally while laying down twice, since around the time i had mentioned the bright white light when my eyes are closed. what i saw was my pillow and the side of mattress - i had to open my eyes to see what it was i saw because it was odd the first time.

[soleil]

Posted by wolfgaze (here)
Question, do any of you more experienced OBE'ers recommend the use of audio stimulation? The reason I ask is that I am an individual who has difficulty meditating/relaxing in complete silence. I also have very sensitive hearing and live on a busy street with passing traffic that I can hear (which I find distracting).

hey wolfgaze, i have so much noise in my house, that i use it as a concentration tool. i'm not sure if that kind of thing works for you. however, my first OBE actually happened with 3 in a bed, me, my daughter (2.5 yrs) and my fiance on the other side. i just hope all my practice in a noisy and distracting house (read 2.5 yr old) will help me be better at it than those who dont have distractions. i hope to make it work for me.

i recommend white noise if you have a fan or anything to help drown out the other noise. whitenoise helps me hear into the other D's sometimes.

[Jake]

Posted by kintun (here)

Posted by wolfgaze (here)
Question, do any of you more experienced OBE'ers recommend the use of audio stimulation? The reason I ask is that I am an individual who has difficulty meditating/relaxing in complete silence. I also have very sensitive hearing and live on a busy street with passing traffic that I can hear (which I find distracting).

I used Monroe's tracks: Journeys out of the body. They worked for me.
Good luck!

The journeys out of the body cd's are also used with Robert Bruce' Practical Astral Projection Intensive program. Bob Felix was part of the original explorer team with Bob Monroe. (lots of bobs and roberts) anyways, bob Felix helped to fine tune the original 'journeys' cd's, which became known as hemi-sync... These tools can be helpful, especially for audio (rather than visual) learners! Some of the hemi-sync is designed for inducing specific meditative states which can then be used as a platform for OBE!!! Just be sure you look at it as a tool and not a crutch!! Get yer hands on the 'journeys' cd' and fall asleep to the 'condition D' cd!!!!!!

Jake!!!

[wolfgaze]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
hey wolfgaze, i have so much noise in my house, that i use it as a concentration tool. i'm not sure if that kind of thing works for you. however, my first OBE actually happened with 3 in a bed, me, my daughter (2.5 yrs) and my fiance on the other side. i just hope all my practice in a noisy and distracting house (read 2.5 yr old) will help me be better at it than those who dont have distractions. i hope to make it work for me.

i recommend white noise if you have a fan or anything to help drown out the other noise. whitenoise helps me hear into the other D's sometimes.

Thanks very much for your reply teradactyl. : )

Your personal account is inspiring to me because I have a german shepherd who insists on laying on my bed alongside me and I had wondered if his presence my hinder my ability to have an OBE... I'm confident that won't be the case.

I have a track which I have used for meditation in the past that I am really comfortable with. It's a 40 minute audio simulation of the schumann resonance with some isotronic tones mixed in... I'm going to give this OBE business a try again soon...

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by OOO (here)
Hi Freed Fox,

I am no expert in these matters, but from experience I will share my take on your adventure.

During our conscious state if we amuse ourseleves with "heavy" entertainment it will trickle down/up into our subconscious.
What occupies your mind in the day time? Pay attention. Usually we go about things unaware researching subjects on aliens, ghosts, illuminati, etc...in search of finding or satisfying our curiosity.

I have found that "lightening" my daily intake of info helps and being aware of my emotional states. If you nip the negative thought in the bud it helps.

Side note: i love being in my body. Isn't that the reason why we chose to incarnate on earth?

Anyway, hope this means something to you.

000, I agree with you that it's very important to stay in touch with our body and to constantly watch our emotions and thoughts. I've stressed the importance of getting grounded before any OB experience.

The way I see it, OB experience is something that's mainly just a bridge to contact and communication with the HS. And that everyone should hopefully "graduate" to living fully present to those two consciousnesses (because the HS is, at first and for quite a long time, a separate consciousness). Ultimately it's a matter of uniting the HS and the outer (physical) consciousness into one whole.

This isn't entertainment. This thread is intended for people to read and take action.

The reality is, we all live in a physical world full of limitations. But inside we all know that who we truly are isn't limited. So, we're constantly faced with that tension -- that challenge that no entertainment can assuage --, and, if we're serious, with the need to reconcile it. Isn't that a big part of what human life is ultimately about?

[OOO]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by OOO (here)
Hi Freed Fox,

I am no expert in these matters, but from experience I will share my take on your adventure.

During our conscious state if we amuse ourseleves with "heavy" entertainment it will trickle down/up into our subconscious.
What occupies your mind in the day time? Pay attention. Usually we go about things unaware researching subjects on aliens, ghosts, illuminati, etc...in search of finding or satisfying our curiosity.

I have found that "lightening" my daily intake of info helps and being aware of my emotional states. If you nip the negative thought in the bud it helps.

Side note: i love being in my body. Isn't that the reason why we chose to incarnate on earth?

Anyway, hope this means something to you.

000, I agree with you that it's very important to stay in touch with our body and to constantly watch our emotions and thoughts. I've stressed the importance of getting grounded before any OB experience.

The way I see it, OB experience is something that's mainly just a bridge to contact and communication with the HS. And that everyone should hopefully "graduate" to living fully present to those two consciousnesses (because the HS is, at first and for quite a long time, a separate consciousness). Ultimately it's a matter of uniting the HS and the outer (physical) consciousness into one whole.

This isn't entertainment. This thread is intended for people to read and take action.

The reality is, we all live in a physical world full of limitations. But inside we all know that who we truly are isn't limited. So, we're constantly faced with that tension -- that challenge that no entertainment can assuage --, and, if we're serious, with the need to reconcile it. Isn't that a big part of what human life is ultimately about?

This thread has approached the subject of OBEs in a very wholistic manner.
From my understanding, all the info in here is not just about getting out of your body, but bringing more into your body of consciousness.

TraineeHuman your inputs have been really helpful.
Thank you
Aleksandra

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by OOO (here)
During our conscious state if we amuse ourseleves with "heavy" entertainment it will trickle down/up into our subconscious.
What occupies your mind in the day time? Pay attention. Usually we go about things unaware researching subjects on aliens, ghosts, illuminati, etc...in search of finding or satisfying our curiosity.

I have found that "lightening" my daily intake of info helps and being aware of my emotional states. If you nip the negative thought in the bud it helps.

Side note: i love being in my body. Isn't that the reason why we chose to incarnate on earth?

Anyway, hope this means something to you.

000, I agree with you that it's very important to stay in touch with our body and to constantly watch our emotions and thoughts. I've stressed the importance of getting grounded before any OB experience.

The way I see it, OB experience is something that's mainly just a bridge to contact and communication with the HS. And that everyone should hopefully "graduate" to living fully present to those two consciousnesses (because the HS is, at first and for quite a long time, a separate consciousness). Ultimately it's a matter of uniting the HS and the outer (physical) consciousness into one whole.

This isn't entertainment. This thread is intended for people to read and take action.

The reality is, we all live in a physical world full of limitations. But inside we all know that who we truly are isn't limited. So, we're constantly faced with that tension -- that challenge that no entertainment can assuage --, and, if we're serious, with the need to reconcile it. Isn't that a big part of what human life is ultimately about?

This thread has approached the subject of OBEs in a very wholistic manner.
From my understanding, all the info in here is not just about getting out of your body, but bringing more into your body of consciousness.
...
Thank you
Aleksandra

It needs to be wholistic because your Higher Self is the diamond worth billions that’s lying buried in your own back yard. And you need to put all your strongest energies and all your will and invest everything into finding it. The question is, just how much are you willing to give to finding something that’s much more important than absolutely everything else? Are you going to give enough?

[Jake]

This isn't entertainment. This thread is intended for people to read and take action.

EXACTLY!!! A thousand pounds of 'facts' will never stand up to an ounce of 'inspiration'. There is a lot of material here for the beginner and the experienced, alike,,, my hope is that we all stay positive and hold a perspective that will inspire ANY reader to endeavor to beging to understand themselves through embracing their personal experiences. I have a chapter in my book dedicated to this exact subject... OBE and your Higher Self... Part of the reason that this phenomenon can't be studied with strict scientific methodology is because a connection is established with ones higher self, and the nature of the study changes.

We are pushing through!!!

When I firts came to Avalon, there was hardly anyone discussing Astral Projection or OBE,,,,, hahahahahahah

Look how things have changed,,,, with only a bit of inspiration, and a group of the most joyful people on earth,,,, Avalonians.

Keep up the good work,,,

Jake.

[TraineeHuman]

Here’s more about how to listen to your HS. (And my apologies to Jake. I haven't read the chapter on the HS in his book, but I'll do so soon.)

In doing the exercise from post #24, you learnt (if you didn’t already know), or you practiced, how to make the screen of your mind empty or blank for 30 seconds. I suggest you did this by continually choosing not to give any thoughts your support, when they tried to come up.

(I hope you didn’t do it the way I see so many regular so-called “meditators” use force to “kill off” all thoughts during their meditation. That’s kind of nuking everything, leaving only a wasteland of dullness behind. The purpose of meditation is not to turn you into a lamp post. No, the soft but steady touch is what is needed.)

Now I’m giving you a simple exercise for strengthening your ability to (begin to) experience the presence of your HS. This exercise is the same as the one in post #24 … LOL…, but with the following changes.

At the beginning you don’t ask any question. Then, after 30 seconds or so of blank screen, put your attention on the silence. Simply be willing for the blankness to be replaced by something less passive but still non-verbal and non-pictorial.

The blankness or emptiness will drop off, but you need to practice this exercise at least until you continue to clearly and very definitely “feel” the silence after the blankness has dropped off.

That “silence” or stillness is your HS. (But later you will be able to “hear” its communications to you.)

It’s not a passive silence. Also, that silence contains a subtle but strong non-physical “energy”, a presence, a feeling that everything is OK.

I’d like some of you readers to tell me more.

But my one caution is that when that stillness becomes strong in you, initially and for maybe quite a few years there will be huge resistance from your ego, from your outer self. That resistance will rear its head every time your HS really descends into your physical body. That’s not likely to happen yet for a long time, unless you're already at that point. But your ego will even resist and envy the fact that you are learning to communicate with another, even now, even if you're a total beginner. The biggest gun your ego usually has is to make you feel weak – maybe disinterested, or lacking in confidence, or lazy, or chronically tired. I had to warn you, so now you’ve been warned, my friends. Yes, there is certainly light at the end of that tunnel.

[TraineeHuman]

We all need to learn to get in touch with our intuition. As I understand it, listening to our intuition usually comes down to listening to some voice usually quite deep inside us. I've already gone on about how we listen to false voices inside us, coming from family members who influenced us in our childhood , and so on.

But once you learn to "feel" or "hear" the very alive stillness or silence that is your HS, you become much better at distinguishing the "voice" of that stillness from all the other voices.