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    This may or may not be related, but yesterday, there was a very unusual amount of air traffic. I do not live near an airport that supports jet service. And much of the air traffic consisted of obvious military jets, F14/16 etc. It reminded me of the training I heard in my hometown, at 3 am nightly in the weeks post 911. Although this was daytime. I believe the closest military base is about 100 miles from here. At the time, my immediate thoughts were, hmm what is in our near future.

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    Mods, these two threads should probably be merged. : )
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...046#post655046

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    Well, the Middle East party is winding down. Gotta boogie down somewhere.

    Showing at a theater near you, "Korean Konflict, Part II, The Son Shoots the Bird".
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    There is something wrong with the syntax in this piece of writing, maybe it has been passed through a translator program?
    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    By Mort Amsel (Reporter)

    US Plans To Intervene In Korea, 90,000 Soldiers In 56 Days; North Korea Readies Missiles

    " American generals need 56 days and more than two reinforced divisions to resolve the situation in a dilapidated state, "North Brownland", previously controlled by the criminal regime Featuring nuclear weapons. Any similarities with North Korea is probably intentional.

    As revealed portal "Defense News", so in the short run the script and looked large staff exercises at the Pentagon called "Unified Quest", which took place at the beginning of this year.

    The military is not about how to specify the country it was, but journalists are completely confident that practiced to control the situation in North Korea collapsing. Even the maps used in the exercise cage roller throw suspiciously reminiscent of the Korean Peninsula, and U.S. troops set off a share of territory in the south of the peninsula ally.

    When asked by journalists Hix General as to whether the current U.S. forces in South Korea, with a population less than 30,000 people, are insufficient in the face by training, gave evasive answers. - There are sufficient at the moment. Remains an open question whether they will be sufficient if you will need to protect "the lost" nuclear weapons - said General "

    Meanwhile...

    North Korean state media said on Friday that the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un, ordered his missile units to be ready to strike the United States and South Korea, which South Korean officials said could signal either preparations for missile tests or just more blustering.

    Mr. Kim’s order, which North Korea said was given during an emergency meeting early Friday, was similar to the one issued Tuesday when the North’s top military command told all its missile and artillery units to be on the “highest alert” and ready to strike the United States and South Korea in retaliation against their joint military exercises.
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    Quote Posted by steveofengland (here)
    For TPTB wars are a perfect choice.
    They create fear and tension
    They make money for the defence contractors
    They are a means to control
    They are a means to distract
    And they're a great way to keep the population from expanding to rapidly. Along with their other favourite weapons such as man made poverty and diseases.
    The biggest obstacle for the DHS is the size, strength, and availability of the US military. Underfunding, stretching and dissipation of resources.

    I think it's pretty clever.

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    Quote Posted by CosmicKat (here)
    Practice or show of force??
    U.S. Responds to North Korean Provocations with a Provocation of Its Own

    March 29, 2013 • 11:15AM

    North Korea's recent behavior, despite the current war hysteria from the Obama administration, is not inconsistent with its past history. Despite that, the U.S announced, very publicly, that two B-2 bombers, flying from their base in Missouri, dropped practice bombs on a military range in South Korea as part of ongoing bilateral exercises. According to a statement issued early today by U.S. Forces Korea, the B-2 mission "demonstrates the United States' ability to conduct long-range, precision strikes quickly and at will," but the New York Times, in its coverage this morning, rightly deemed the mission a provocation of North Korea. The Times reported from Seoul that North Korea "remains particularly sensitive" because of American carpet bombing during the 1950-53 Korean War, and its war cries "typically reach a frenetic pitch" when American bombers fly over South Korea during military exercises. So, the U.S. responds in a way calculated to provoke the North, not because of any particulars regarding North Korea, but because of the British-directed buildup of a generalized war hysteria. And, in accordance with the British game, North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, signed orders putting the country's rocket forces on standby to attack U.S. bases, according to the Korean Central News Agency this afternoon.

    Indeed, the first question to Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel during a Pentagon press briefing this afternoon, was exactly on that point. Was not the decision to send the B-2's over Korea "more of a provocative move by the United States?" Hagel was asked. "Does that risk provoking North Korea to do something more so than they might have already been?" Hagel went to great lengths to deny that the B-2's were a provocation, and to lay responsibility for all provocations on North Korea. He also claimed that, regardless of what North Korea's actual military capabilities may be, the U.S. has to prepare for the "worst case scenario," to show that we're prepared to not only defend the United States but also reassure allies.

    Hagel was undercut, slightly, by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey, however, when Dempsey responded to a question asking whether or not the U.S. has seen any unusual military moves by North Korea. "We're in our annual exercise cycle," he said. "So are they. And so there have been moves in the maritime domain on each coast, as well as some of the artillery units that are across the demilitarized zone from Seoul. So, yeah, there have been movements. We haven't seen anything that would cause us to believe there are movements other than consistent with historic patterns and training exercises."

    http://larouchepac.com/node/26041

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    Well for what it's worth, I got this e-mail yesterday from the Defcon Warning System of which I am subscribed. Here's the link, http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/

    Quote This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 2 P.M. Thursday, March 28th, 2013. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4.
    There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time, however there are events occurring in the world theatre which require closer monitoring.
    The situation in Korea continues to be a potential flashpoint. While current intel does not believe that North Korea has the capability to strike the United States with nuclear missiles, a conventional attack does not appear to be outside their ability. Chemical and biological attacks are also a possibility, though there has been little evidence that North Korea has been developing those types of weapons on any kind of large scale. Nevertheless, North Korea continues to work on intercontinental delivery systems as well as miniaturizing its nuclear warheads, so that a strike on the U.S. will ultimately be in its ability. Some analysts postulate that any nuclear attack by North Korea would not be a strike against cities, but rather a high-altitude attack which would knock out the U.S. power grid and other critical infrastructure.
    As of now, the cold war continues, and North Korea has officially ended its Non-Aggression pact with South Korea as well as voiding past nuclear disarmament agreements. North Korea is claiming to have nuclear-capable missiles and are positioning road-mobile KN-08 intercontinental ballistic missiles which the United States believes can be nuclear capable, though there is debate as to whether or not North Korea has been able to miniaturize a nuclear warhead enough to fit on one. In response to the North Korean nuclear threat, the United States is adding additional missile interceptors on its West coast.
    The United States has signed an agreement with South Korea for joint response to North Korean attack. Up until now, U.S. participation has been optional. The U.S. is currently conducting training runs with bombers practicing nuclear strikes on North Korea while North Korea conducts live-fire drills near the border.
    History has shown that North Korea usually attacks within weeks of a South Korean presidential inauguration. While an attack is unlikely when the U.S. has such a large presence during war games, a hit-and-run attack is expected after U.S. forces pull back. An attack is becoming more likely due to the amount of rhetoric coming out of the North. It is coming to the point that few are taking North Korea seriously anymore, and the country is likely feeling pressure to back up its threats with some sort of demonstration. This makes North Korea a highly dangerous adversary, as it is going to be acting on emotion rather than logic and strategy.
    Elsewhere, China is building a large drone fleet, with aim to swarm U.S. carriers during war, while cyber-attacks from China are now beginning to target critical infrastructure in the United States. Russia has announced plans to form a permanent task force in the Mediterranean while the United States has canceled the final phase of the European missile shield.
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    World on Edge over North Korea
    April 2, 2013 By Joseph Klein

    North Korea is relentlessly continuing its provocative rhetoric and actions in the wake of its ballistic missile and nuclear arms tests, which had prompted more stringent sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council earlier this year. North Korea’s young dictator, Kim Jong-un, led the Central Committee of the ruling Workers’ Party plenary meeting Sunday in declaring that North Korea’s continued build up of its nuclear arms stockpile was not negotiable. The Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) of North Korea quoted from the meeting as follows:

    The nuclear weapons of Songun Korea are not goods for getting U.S. dollars and they are neither a political bargaining chip nor a thing for economic dealings to be presented to the place of dialogue or be put on the table of negotiations aimed at forcing the DPRK to disarm itself… The DPRK’s nuclear armed forces represent the nation’s life which can never be abandoned as long as the imperialists and nuclear threats exist on earth.

    Only when the nuclear shield for self-defence is held fast, will it be possible to shatter the U.S. imperialists’ ambition for annexing the Korean Peninsula by force and making the Korean people modern slaves, firmly defend our ideology, social system and all other socialist treasures won at the cost of blood and safeguard the nation’s right to existence and its time-honored history and brilliant culture.

    KCNA also reported that during an Easter service “the participants renewed the firm resolution to put the warmongers [the US and South Korea] into the red hot iron-pot of hell as early as possible.”

    The plenary ruling party meeting was reportedly the first of its kind in twenty years, underlining Kim Jong-un’s determination to get the attention he craves on the world stage, shore up his credentials with his military and consolidate his power by mobilizing his people to be prepared for war. The party meeting came just days after Kim Jong-un put the military’s rocket forces on standby to strike the U.S. mainland, American bases in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and U.S. bases in South Korea. The dictator had also issued a challenge that “the time has come to settle scores with the U.S. imperialists.” This in turn followed North Korea’s decision to declare the 1953 armistice with South Korea null and void and to cut off its military communications hot lines with South Korea. The only remaining shred of inter-Korean cooperation is the joint industrial park at the border town of Kaesong, which North Korea has threatened to shut down.

    South Korea, needless to say, is on high alert and taking no chances, but not panicking. Seoul, South Korea’s capital, is reported to be calm at this point. South Korea’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations Kim Sook was quoted by Inner City Press as saying on Monday that he hoped North Korea is “a barking dog, not a biting dog,” but that South Korea “would retaliate.” South Korean President Park Geun-hye appeared to signal that she would leave the matter of any military response to an “abrupt and surprise provocations by North Korea” to her military’s judgment.

    The Obama administration is also taking North Korea’s threats seriously, but not overreacting. It has been taking measured steps to demonstrate its resolve to defend South Korea if North Korea decides to launch an attack. For example, NBC News reports that the U.S. Navy is shifting a guided-missile destroyer in the Pacific to waters off the Korean peninsula. The destroyer, the USS Fitzgerald, can intercept and destroy a missile, which would provide further deterrence to any decision by North Korea to launch a missile attack.

    A group of U.S. F-22 stealth fighter jets were flown Sunday from an air base in Japan to one located south of Seoul, to join the current joint military exercises in South Korea. Last Thursday, a pair of U.S. Air Force nuclear-capable B-2 bombers were sent from a base in the United States for a flight over South Korea. U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the stealth bomber flights were intended to demonstrate to our allies in the region “that they can count on us to be prepared and to help them deter conflict.”

    President Obama’s top national security adviser, Tom Donilon, said last month that “North Korea’s claims may be hyperbolic, but as to the policy of the United States, there should be no doubt: we will draw upon the full range of our capabilities to protect against, and to respond to, the threat posed to us and to our allies by North Korea.”

    Donilon also warned North Korea not to count on its threats to bring the United States and its allies back to the negotiating table to offer another economic lifeline in return for North Korea’s meaningless promise to scale back its nuclear activities. “The United States refuses to reward bad North Korean behavior,” Donilon said. “The United States will not play the game of accepting empty promises or yielding to threats. As former Secretary of Defense Bob Gates has said, we won’t buy the same horse twice. We have made clear our openness to authentic negotiations with North Korea. In return, however, we’ve only seen provocations and extreme rhetoric.”

    While most analysts consider North Korea’s bellicose threats to strike the U.S. mainland directly a bluff that the regime is incapable of carrying out at its present technological level, South Korea and Japan are within easy target range. And miscalculations can quickly mushroom out of control.

    Moreover, North Korea’s continued buildup of nuclear arms and long range missile capacities, in concert with its ally Iran’s own buildup which North Korea is helping, does not give us much breathing room. It is only a matter of time before the United States is at serious risk of being vulnerable to attack by the megalomaniacs running these two surviving members of what President George W. Bush correctly called the “axis of evil.”

    According to Reza Kahlili, who served in CIA Directorate of Operations, as a spy in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and still has highly placed sources in the Iranian regime, North Korea is helping Iranian scientists to develop new ways to miniaturize and make more powerful nuclear bombs, as well as neutron warheads that can be used to launch crippling electromagnetic pulse attacks.

    All that we can do at this point is contain the North Korean nuclear threat and use military force to destroy their nuclear facilities and infrastructure as a last resort. However, the alliance between North Korea and Iran makes it more imperative than ever for the Obama administration to prevent Iran, by whatever means necessary, from ever reaching the critical point of no return in developing nuclear bombs and moving towards achieving its objective of a deployed force of nuclear weapons on intermediate and inter-continental missiles.

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    I have concluded that the Russians were given the task of orchestrating both sides of the Korean War.... so the world awaits the real life version what the puppet masters already have choreographed and scripted for our entertainment.

    Its all about FEAR. I'll never forget this scene from "Virtuosity" that perfectly illustrates what demons eat for breakfast lunch and dinner


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    Let's stop playing the fear game and instead send some love there. We can make this world a heaven or hell, the time to choose is now or never.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    I've just seen the pictures and the tags in the news on TV today, it was depictions of poverty and sick children all over commented with "especially the kids have to suffer" and "the West is concerned about the situation in North Korea."

    Yeah right, how about kids dying because the Third World is artificially held in poverty? How about shooting kids up with poisonous vaccines? How about the West not at all being "concerned" about that? They're playing the same old game, getting people emotional over a distraction and posing as the saviors, it's disgusting.

    There are of course many angles to how this is a proxy conflict, see for example this article in the Wall Street Journal. I don't know, sadly the people in North Korea don't have access to the internet and cannot get the real backgrounds from there, but I hope South Koreans make some pressure to avoid an escalation. People all over the world should, actually. Everybody who has the knowledge and could share it and do something is responsible for doing something or nothing.

    Maybe there will be a "South Korea loves North Korea" movement like "Israel loves Palestine" and vice versa.

    Btw, here's the article source link from the OP: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/joseph-...r-north-korea/

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    Its all to get additional aid for the people so Kim Jong Un can funnel more money towards his military, the north have no desire to go to war only protect what they have. There is no need for them to reconcile because the communist leaders live such luxurious lives and the common people are utterly ignorant of the reality of the situation.

    In the South the business leaders namely Samsung, Hyundia and LG (who run the government) have no desire for reunification as the consequences would lead to a short term business down turn.

    I can't see war happening or envisage any situation where they can reconcile, I hope I proved wrong on the reconciling part however.

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    Default Re: World on Edge over North Korea

    I'd just like to point out a few things.

    Quote Posted by andrewgreen (here)
    Its all to get additional aid for the people so Kim Jong Un can funnel more money towards his military, the north have no desire to go to war only protect what they have.
    This is what it has been about in the past. Here's why it's different.
    1. This will be the umpteenth time that North Korea has said they will halt their nuclear program for food and money. Each time they have gone back on their word.
    2. Now they have between four and ten nuclear weapons and a new leader who is much more outspoken (/reckless) than his father was.
    3. They have stated that there will be no negotiations with anyone that involves them halting their nuclear program. They have a new hand of cards now.
    They are looking at ways around the squeeze of these sanctions. They've just recently announced that they will be restarting the Yongbyon nuclear complex that they shut down five years ago. This will be done to help power the country and to help add to their nuclear arsenal. They will start looking for other ways to get money. One possibility is for them to produce more nuclear weapons to sell to other countries whose nuclear programs have been suppressed by the international community.

    The thing that is most familiar over the years, aside from the rhetoric, is they keep developing their nuclear program. Again, now they actually have several nuclear weapons. They will not stop their program. This is evident, and this is where the conflict is at -- aside from all the recent threats.

    The US is in a bind here, they have made commitments to Israel ensuring that Iran would not become nuclear capable. Yet, North Korea has steadily achieved this status right under the nose of the US. Whose to say that North Korea won't try and sell a nuclear weapon to Iran? This is probably something Israel and the US have thought about. Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like the US wants this war to happen, as all other options have proved futile in the long run. The situation in North Korea has little room left for diplomacy. Really, nobody should have nuclear weapons. It seems the world is run by silver tonged psychopaths.

    Quote Posted by andrewgreen (here)
    I can't see war happening or envisage any situation where they can reconcile, I hope I proved wrong on the reconciling part however.
    Man, I really hope hope your wrong about the reconciliation too. Each agreement they have made with the US has been breached though; with each breach they have progressed further and further with their nuclear capabilities. That's why it's different. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but recognize their track record (apart from the "talk").

    They just keep coming back, and things have escalated very quickly this past month.



    The video cuts out a little at the end. It seems that Kim Jong-Un has put "Songun" before the well being of the people of the DPRK. That's what "Songun" essentially is anyways. In the long run, that kind of policy has held true.

    See also: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/world/...ons/index.html
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    S. Korean workers' departure to Kaesong complex delayed

    SEOUL, April 3 (Yonhap) -- South Korean workers' departure to an inter-Korean industrial complex in North Korea's Kaesong was being delayed on Wednesday, as the North has yet to give approval to their cross-border trip, officials here said.

    Source: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news...02300315F.HTML

    See also: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...rk/625330.html

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    North Korea delays access to Kaesong industrial zone

    North Korea has delayed the daily opening of its Kaesong industrial zone with South Korea in a move that could represent a sharp escalation of tensions between the two countries and potentially trap hundreds of South Koreans in the North.

    Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...93200F20130403

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    This is the last thread, the Kaesong complex. I'll update this post with any news as it comes out.
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    Ha Ha he he , the ptb wants a war with Iran , not happening, now they set their sights on North Korea, man they are desperate for some fear aren't they ??? I wanna scream to the hilltops , enough War, enough Killing, enough lies, ENOUGH ... we want peace, harmony, all ideas working together for the good of the planet, homes for the homeless, health for the sick, hope for the future --- Not fear ...
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    Breaking News:

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    Report: North Korea Says It Has Approved Nuclear Strikes On U.S.
    Apr. 3, 2013 4:05pm Becket Adams

    The North Korean army on Wednesday said it had approved “merciless” strikes on the United States that may involve the use of “cutting edge” nuclear weapons.

    The General Staff of the Korean People’s Army in a statement published by the official KCNA news agency told Washington that U.S. “threats” would be “smashed by… cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means.”

    “The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified,” the statement adds.

    This is a breaking report. Updates will be added as they become available.

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    AFP: North Korea approves "merciless" nuclear strike on U.S. involving possible use of "cutting edge" nuclear weapons
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    SEOUL — The North Korean army said Thursday it had final approval to launch "merciless" military strikes on the United States, involving the possible use of "cutting-edge" nuclear weapons.

    In a statement published by the official KCNA news agency, the General Staff of the Korean People's Army (KPA) said it was formally informing Washington that reckless US threats would be "smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".

    "The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified," the statement said.

    "The US had better ponder over the prevailing grave situation," it added.

    North Korea had threatened a "pre-emptive" nuclear strike against the United States a month ago, and last week the supreme army command ordered its strategic rocket units to combat status for strikes on the US mainland and US bases in Guam and Hawaii.

    "The moment of explosion is approaching fast," Thursday's statement said, adding that a war could break out on the Korean peninsula "today or tomorrow".

    "In view of this situation, the KPA General Staff in charge of all operations will take powerful practical military counteractions in succession," it said.

    Despite a successful long-range rocket launch in December, most experts believe North Korea is years from developing a genuine inter-continental ballistic missile that could strike the mainland United States.

    Hawaii and Guam would also be outside the range of its medium-range missiles, which would be capable, however, of striking US bases in South Korea and Japan.

    The army statement said responsibility for the current crisis "entirely rests" with the United States, citing the participation of nuclear-capable US B-52s and B-2 stealth bombers in ongoing joint military drills with South Korea.

    "Never has the whole Korean peninsula been exposed to such danger of a nuclear war as today," it added.
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    Kim Jong Um is a young man, full of pride and ego. With such power in such inexperienced hands, and being centre stage In my book, all bets are off, as to what this all may lead to. Dangerous times indeed. We need to back off.

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    Officials Warn: “North Korea Could Explode A High-Altitude Nuclear Device Over The United States”

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    This is serious stuff here folks. A nuclear EMP device like the one they have (which the Russians helped them build) would take out a large chunk of the US electrical grid. Clif High has stated that data gaps have begun showing up in his streams (because of the global increase in DDOS attacks). He said that these gaps are growing like holes in Swiss cheese, and it's this growth that leads up to the blackout he's describing.

    I'm just going to point out that an EMP could account for the blackout.
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    Interesting coincidence , Vivek!

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    U.S. on alert for nuclear blast overhead
    'Space launch vehicle' could put kill electric grid, devastate nation
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    WASHINGTON – U.S. officials quietly are expressing concern that North Korea could use its “space launch vehicle” to explode a high-altitude nuclear device over the United States, creating an electromagnetic pulse that would destroy major portions of the U.S. electrical grid system as well as the nation’s critical infrastructures.

    The concern is so great that U.S. officials who watch North Korea closely are continually monitoring the status of the North Korean “space launch vehicle,” whose status could suggest a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States.

    They are aware of the three-stage missile North Korea launched last December that also orbited a “package,” which experts say could be a test to orbit a nuclear weapon that then would be deorbited on command anywhere over the U.S. and exploded at a high altitude, creating an EMP effect.

    This concern is in addition to North Korea’s latest threat to strike targets in Hawaii and the continental U.S., as well as possible attacks against U.S. bases in South Korea and Japan.

    The 28-year-old North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, has signed an order for North Korea’s strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at U.S. targets.

    The signing was against a photo backdrop following an emergency meeting of his senior military leaders showing large maps that were labeled “U.S. mainland strike plan, specifically at Hawaii, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles and Austin, Texas.”

    One WND reader who traced the targeting to Texas said that it really was aimed at the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

    The latest North Korean threats occurred after the U.S. sent two B-2 stealth bombers to strike targets with inert bombs during joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises, which Kim considered a major provocation.

    “He finally signed the plan on technical preparations of strategic rockets, ordering them to be on standby to fire so that they may strike any time the U.S. mainland, its military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea,” according to a statement by the North Korean news agency, KCNA.

    The statement added that the B-2 flights showed Washington’s “hostile” intent, and the “reckless” act had gone “beyond the phase of threat and blackmail.”

    In response, U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel condemned North Korea’s actions which to date have included dissolving the 1953 armistice between North and South Korea, severing the military hotline with South Korea and putting its artillery forces on high alert and threatening, once again, nuclear strikes against the U.S.

    In recent weeks, North Korea also had released three videos showing a nuclear strike on the U.S.

    “We’ve made very clear that we have the capability and willingness to protect our interests and our allies in the region,” according to deputy White House press secretary Josh Earnest. He said that the U.S. military exercises with South Korea should offer “pretty clear evidence” that the U.S. can defend its interests and those of its allies in the region.

    Sources say that sending the B-2s was in response to the recent North Korean threats to send a message – a message which Russia and China called a “provocative act.”

    Russia and China have asked the U.S. to continue talking to North Korea and not to take military action against North Korea.

    In response to North Korea’s initial bellicose rhetoric, Hagel ordered the deployment of additional Aegis anti-missile systems for the U.S. West Coast. They originally were destined for Europe. And a second anti-ballistic missile radar is to be installed in Japan.

    However, the Aegis anti-missile systems won’t be operational until 2017, although there are some systems already deployed along the West Coast.

    North Korea’s continuing threats of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against U.S. targets suggest to U.S. officials that its military is confident in the capability of its missiles and that its recent nuclear testing for miniaturization of a warhead to be placed on a missile similarly was successful.

    These officials are looking at the prospect that upon launch of the missile and a potential nuclear payload, it would take a polar path, clearly out of range of U.S. Aegis anti-missile systems.

    The fact that U.S.military officials are expressing quiet but increasing concern that North Korea could launch an EMP attack has raised alarms over the preservation of the U.S. national grid and such critical infrastructures as communications, energy, food and water delivery and space systems.

    This concern recently has been reinforced by a little-publicized study by the U.S. Army War College that said a nuclear detonation at altitude above a U.S. city could wipe out the electrical grid for hundreds, possibly thousands of miles around.

    The impact would be catastrophic.

    “Preparing for months without a commercial source of clean water (city water pressure is often dependent on electric pumping to storage towers) and stoppage of sewage treatment facilities will require net methods of survival particularly in populated areas,” the military study said.

    The May 2011 study, titled, “In the Dark: Military Planning for a Catastrophic Critical Infrastructure Event,” concluded that there is “very little” in the way of backup capability to the electric grid upon which the communications infrastructure is vitally dependent.

    Analysts say that it is apparent that Kim has ignored any advice from its closest friend, China, to stop any further missile or nuclear testing suggesting, as one official described Kim, as a “loose cannon.”

    Kim also has been defiant of any United Nations Security Council resolutions similarly condemning the recent missile and nuclear tests. China had joined in approving those resolutions.

    “The time has come to settle accounts with the U.S.,” the KCNA agency declared.

    “The Obama administration is either clueless or deceiving the American people with false assurances that North Korea’s recent threats to destroy the United States are merely ‘empty rhetoric’ because they allegedly ‘lack the capability,’” one former U.S. official told WND.

    Some regional analysts, however, believe that Kim is seeking to leverage the U.S. for further concessions while attempting to win favor with his own military to show how tough he can be.

    These analysts say that until now Kim has not had the support from the military that his father, Kim Jong-Il, had.

    His war-like tone may be indicative of attempts to solidify military support within his country.

    At the moment, experts are looking at efforts for preparations at known long-range missile launch sites.

    Those signs may be appearing.

    “North Korea’s launch sites to fire off mid- and long-range missiles have recently shown increased movement of vehicles and forces,” according to one South Korean official who described the activity at the sites as “brisk.”

    “We are closely watching possibilities of missile launches,” the official said.

    In this connection, officials have seen several vehicles moving to the Tongchang-ri missile site on the western coast, in what appeared to them to be preparations for testing its long-range missiles.

    Some observers, however, believe the latest threats of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the U.S. remain for now just domestic posturing and efforts to establish military credentials on Kim’s part to show that he is more forceful than his father.

    In other efforts to determine warnings and indications of an attack, analysts are looking for major troop movements...
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    Interesting coincidence , Vivek!

    Thanks.

    Yea, everybody was talking about this 4-5 months ago. Then no mention of it in the news until recently. I'll also point out that it was Ed Dames who said that a space-shuttle-like vehicle falling from the sky would be the last thing people see before it was lights out. The North Korean satellite probably looks more like a rocket than a space shuttle. I don't know, I haven't seen a picture.

    Now, Ed Dames has been hit or miss. He has had uncanny hits though. These hits didn't manifest to the degree of severity that he'd foreseen, but they still manifested.

    I really don't know. Ed Dames and Clif High aside, it is undeniable that there is a situation unfolding right now.

    I'll add that it is connected with a lot of things.
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