At the Vatican, Up Against the World

[giovonni]

araucaria

i am a very humble, empathic and loving human...Those that know me personally (in the physical) will vouch for that. The path i have walked has assured this in me, i could of chosen to be bitter, angry and broken, but there's truly no future now in that. Note, in this incarnation, i am Italian/Welsh in nature, so perhaps the devil will have his way on occasion... giggle

There's no doubt in my mind the human that was Christ Jesus who once walked upon this plane, is alive in you and me and legions more. And in my heart, i believe he would want us all to be forgiving... But also diligent and steadfast in reclaiming and taking back what is rightfully ours ~ his teachings and the church that was founded in his name.

One should never forget ...

[ATYT]

Petrus Romanus:

St. Francis of Assisi (Italian: San Francesco d'Assisi, born Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone, but nicknamed Francesco ("the Frenchman") by his father

Pope Francis is Italian Argentinean, his parents came from Italy, so he is Roman.
He is a Roman who took Pietro's name, Pietro being St. Francis of Assisi.
Thus Pope Francis becomes Petrus Romanus.

[giovonni]

Posted by ATYT (here)
Petrus Romanus:

St. Francis of Assisi (Italian: San Francesco d'Assisi, born Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone, but nicknamed Francesco ("the Frenchman") by his father

Pope Francis is Italian Argentinean, his parents came from Italy, so he is Roman.
He is a Roman who took Pietro's name, Pietro being St. Francis of Assisi.
Thus Pope Francis becomes Petrus Romanus.

Keenly Deliberated ~ ATYT

[giovonni]

who's your poppa ...

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Pope Francis visit Benedict XVI at Castel Gandolfo



Newly elected Pope Francis has met his predecessor for lunch, the first time such a meeting has been possible for more than 600 years.

Pope Francis was flown by helicopter to Castel Gandolfo for the private lunch with Pope Emeritus Benedict...

Read more - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21908576

[sheme]

Has any one ever read The Essene Gospel Of Peace (health)of Jesus Christ?

Translated from the Dead Sea Scrolls by Edmund SZEKELY found in a mountain cave in the 40's .

This arrived in My life in the 90's- you read it and begin to know why the Vatican and Bible never told it as it was- it was all about power for the church, that man felt it necessary to keep the truth from man-

That which the true Christ and the ESSENE brotherhood wished to give freely to mankind. It is no wonder that thinking man rebelled against the "CHURCH" as it portrayed it's self -- I knew as a child it was wrong to have fine things is a church when people were hungry, hungry for truth.

hhttp://stevespickard.tripod.com/uhc/essene.htm

"For I tell you in very truth, Man is the Son of the Earthly Mother, and from her did the Son of Man receive his whole body, even as the body of the newborn babe is born of the womb of his mother. I tell you truly, you are one with the Earthly Mother; she is in you, and you in her. Of her were you born, in her do you live, and to her shall you return again. Keep, therefore, her laws, for none can live long, neither be happy, but he who honors his Earthly Mother and does her laws. For your breath is her breath; your blood her blood; your bone her bone; your flesh her flesh; your bowels her bowels; your eyes and your ears are her eyes and her ears.

[giovonni]

Here's a most recent interview with former Project Camelot whistle blower ~ Leo Zagami ...

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Leo Zagami: Signs Of The Times - Truth Connections Radio - 19th Mar 2013

Published on Mar 21, 2013

"Until recently, Leo Zagami was a high-level member of the Italian Illuminati, and a 33rd Degree Freemason -- a true insider of the infamous Freemasonic P2 Lodge. He was their 'Prince', prepared to take over after the older Illuminati 'King', Licio Gelli. Being of Illuminati aristocratic bloodline he was involved in the Illuminati Order since childhood. Leo's decision to leave the circle of evil, and horrifying Satanic black magic rituals, mind control, and torture that was going on inside the lodges behind closed doors came at a very life-threatening price.

Instead of hiding at the risk of being found and abolished, Leo has since dedicated every moment to openly exposing the nightmarish crimes and factual truths behind the deeply secret societies, hidden cults, religions, and black operations involving government and other luciferian and satantic fraternities from all branches, sub branches, and belief structures. He has also had personal interaction with Vatican insiders and access to documents within that not even high ranking officials are given permission to view. Discussions with, and involving members from, the Illuminati, Freemason, and Knights Templar societies are just another day of common communications in the life of this whistleblower."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WQQcoWalgfQ

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The Priest Kidnapped Under Bergoglio in Argentina Has Given the Strangest Statement About the Incident

Besides his downright primitive views on LGBT issues, the most potent critiques against the newly installed Pope Francis have had to do with his potentially gruesome role in Argentina's so-called Dirty War. Today there is more information about Pope Francis and his time in the conflict, and yet exactly what happened remains murkier than ever...

Continue reading here - http://gawker.com/5990865/the-priest...t-the-incident

[giovonni]

Still not bad digs for those who take a vow of poverty ...

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Pope Francis shuns grand apartment for two rooms

Pope Francis has decided to shun a grand papal apartment on the top floor of the Vatican's Apostolic Palace in favour of a modest two-room residence.

His spokesman said he was "trying out this type of simple living" in a communal building with other priests...

More here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21949118

[giovonni]

the Vatican is calling it humility ... i'm calling it creepy !

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Pope Francis to wash offenders' feet on Maundy Thursday ...



Pope Francis will wash the feet of prisoners in a youth detention centre near Rome on Maundy Thursday.

Thousands of pilgrims and tourists are arriving in Rome to attend ceremonies during the holy week ahead of Easter..

More here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21963105

[giovonni]

will share this here...

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From ~ Alfred Lambremont Webre ...

Kevin Annett: Pope Francis, Queen Elizabeth arrest warrants; USA Bishop breaks with Vatican

Descriptive:

VANCOUVER, BC – In this moving interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Rev. Kevin Annett, Secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State - www.itccs.org - details the recent roles of the Tribunal and its Common Law Courts of Justice leading to the historic resignation of Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) and the serving of arrest warrants on Pope Francis I for personal involvement in child trafficking and other crimes. Kevin Annett characterizes Pope Francis I Jesuit “humility and poverty” profile as damage control by a criminal organization. He also discusses common law justice courts starting up in England and the USA.

Also ~ A U.S. Bishop was arrested for urging congregation to break with Vatican

In the interview, Kevin Annett discloses the recent case of a Roman Catholic Bishop in Albany, New York who has been arrested by police after urging the congregation at a church in his diocese to break with the Vatican because of its crimes.

Published on Mar 29, 2013

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ac_7_v3lGg4

[giovonni]

Shroud of Turin Displayed, Pope Delivers Message

Published on Mar 30, 2013

"The Shroud of Turin, Jesus' purported burial cloth, went on display for a special TV appearance Saturday amid new research disputing claims it's a medieval fake. Pope Francis sent a video message to the event in Turin's cathedral. (March 30)"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jo5fvQfsybQ

[giovonni]

Via ~ Alfred Lambremont Webre's Expolotics ...

Pope Francis to announce extraterrestrial savior according to new book.

Written by Dr Michael Salla on April 1, 2013 ...

Yesterday Pope Francis I celebrated his first Easter Mass as the leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics. In his first “Urbi et Orbi” speech – Latin for “to the city [of Rome] and the world” – he called for peace in the Middle East; an end to human trafficking and greed; preventing the exploitation of natural resources; and protecting animals by becoming “responsible guardians of creation.” The Pope normally gives two Urbi et Orbi speeches each year where he deals with major challenges faced by the world and Christendom. In a future speech it has been predicted that he will discuss a unique challenge that the world faces according to the authors of a new book. In Exovaticana, Chris Putnam and Tom Horn predict that the new Pope, Francis I, will soon announce the existence of extraterrestrial life, among whom an alien savior will emerge to reinvigorate Christian teachings!

Putnam and Horn, successfully predicted in their last book, the best-selling Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here, that Pope Benedict would resign rather than die in office. They based their prediction on St Malachy’s, Prophecy of the Popes. According to Putnam and Horn, Francis is the final Pope, “Petrus Romanus”, who will oversee the dissolution of the Catholic Church as predicted in St Malachy’s prophecy, by announcing an extraterrestrial savior.
Putnam and Horn claim to have documented the research and evidence supporting their startling prediction in their new book, Exovaticano – advance orders of which have already rocketed it into Amazon’s best seller lists for its April 15 release. On their website and in Exovaticano, they claim that the Catholic Church hierarchy plans to announce an extraterrestrial savior who will usher in a new world spiritual belief system that supplants traditional Christianity and organized religion. Putnam’s and Horn’s research is based on interviews with Catholic scholars and scientists who were willing to discuss the Prophecy of the Popes and the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Among the Catholic researchers interviewed is Dr Guy Consolmagno, a Jesuit and Vatican astronomer who generated much press interest in 2010 for his views on alien life. He said: “Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul.” When asked if he would baptize an alien, Consolmagno replied: “Only if they asked.” Putnam and Horn cite a difficult to find document written by Consolmagno who makes a remarkable claim about the relationship between Jesus and extraterrestrial life:

Perhaps it’s not so far-fetched to see the Second Person of the Trinity, the Word, Who was present “In the beginning” (John 1: l), coming to lay down His life and take it up again (John 10: 18) not only as the Son of Man but also as a Child of other races?

At first reading, it appears as though Consolmagno is suggesting that Jesus may have been the “Star-Child of an alien race” as Putnam and Horn suggest. On re-reading Consolmagno’s quote, it appears that he is instead claiming that the second aspect of the Holy Trinity that was personified in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, may be recognized as relevant to other worlds and races. This would make it possible for Consolmagno to baptize aliens, even on their own worlds. If Jesus divinity is recognized by extraterrestrial races, and expressed in a unique way by them, then it is easy to understand why Consolmagno believes that contemporary society will “look to the Aliens to be the Saviors of humankind.” Consolmagno, as Putnam and Horn make clear, is no rogue priest making wild theological pronouncements about alien life. Consolmagno’s boss and Chief Vatican Astronomer, Dr Gabriel Funes, stunned the world in May 2008 when he revealed that it is acceptable for Catholics to openly contemplate extraterrestrial life. In an interview he said:

Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can’t put limits on God’s creative freedom… “Why can’t we speak of a ‘brother extraterrestrial’? It would still be part of creation…

Both Funes and Consolmagno are scientific advisors to the Pope and advise him on all matters concerning astronomy – which includes the likelihood of a future discovery of extraterrestrial life. It’s inconceivable that both Funes and Consolmagno would have been able to make public their beliefs about extraterrestrial life without the approval of the previous Pope, Benedict XVI. It is highly likely that the Vatican astronomers will continue to be given permission to make statements about extraterrestrial life and its theological implications. So is it pure science driving these statements from Vatican astronomers or something else?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ecMkshBqQ9I

Funes and Consolmagno are best known among the scientific community for organizing an astrobiology conference on the grounds of the Vatican in November, 2009. The conference contemplated the consequences of the latest scientific advances which was made possible the discovery of exoplanets. A process that according to many astronomers makes the discovery of extraterrestrial life a question of “when” rather than “if”. For example, Dr Chris Impey from the University of Arizona’s Astronomy Department said at the 2009 conference:

As scientists gather to discuss progress in astrobiology, we still only know of one planet with life: our own. But there is a palpable expectation that the universe harbors life and there is hope that the first discovery is only a few years away.

It may be that Vatican astronomical interest is driven by the possibility of discovering extraterrestrial life on some distant exoplanet in the next few years. Not so according to Putnam and Horn. They contend that Vatican astronomers have already found evidence of extraterrestrial life, much closer to earth. Putnam and Horn claim that the Vatican’s astronomical telescope (Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope) located at the Mt Graham Observatory, Arizona, is tracking something that has yet to be announced to the world. They quote from Father Malachi Martin, another Jesuit, who cryptically revealed something that was being tracked by Vatican astronomers that had great significance. In a 1997 interview on the popular radio program Coast to Coast AM, Martin said:

Because the mentality…amongst those who [are] at the…highest levels of Vatican administration and geopolitics, know…what’s going on in space, and what’s approaching us, could be of great import in the next five years, ten years.

On the question of what precisely is being tracked, Putnam and Horn claim that “people familiar with Malachi believe he may have been referring to a near-future arrival of alien intelligence.” The aliens will be carrying with them a message that transforms Christianity from an earth-centric faith system into a new galactic faith that welcomes extraterrestrials as our “spiritual brothers”. Who will be the savior that emerges from the incoming extraterrestrial object secretly monitored by astronomers that, if Putnam and Horn are correct, the Vatican is preparing to soon announce in an “Urbi et Orbi” speech to the world?

To be continued.
© Copyright 2013. Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Exopolitics.org

Source page: http://exopolitics.org/pope-francis-...g-to-new-book/

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Pope visits St. Peter's tomb under Vatican

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Monday took an emotional, close-up look at the tomb of Peter, the church's first pontiff, buried beneath St. Peter's Basilica, the Vatican said.

By doing so, Francis became the first pontiff to visit the necropolis, where pagans and early Christians were buried, since extensive archaeological excavations were conducted at the ancient site decades ago, the Vatican said.

The 45-minute "visit of devotion to the tomb of St. Peter" was private, the Vatican said, but it later released a video of it...

Read more - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...a1230d32bdbf5e

[giovonni]

Pope Francis calls for action on clerical sex abuse

Pope Francis has called for "decisive action" in the fight against sex abuse of minors by priests.

He told Bishop Gerhard Mueller, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith - the Vatican watchdog that deals with sex abuse cases - to ensure perpetrators were punished.

It was the Argentine Pope's first public statement on clerical sex abuse.

A leading sex abuse survivors' group has responded with scepticism, saying "actions speak louder than words"...

Read more - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22043312

[giovonni]

Perhaps ~ more action not words might go a long ways ?

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Pope orders Vatican officials to tackle child sex abuse scandals

Pontiff's call dismissed by victims' groups as simply rhetoric designed to try and woo back disgusted Catholics to the church

Pope Francis has directed the Vatican to act decisively on ecclesiastic sex abuse cases and take measures against paedophile priests, saying the Catholic church's credibility was on the line...

Read more - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...hild-sex-abuse

[MorningSong]

OOOOO this is a bit eerie!

[Catholic World News]
Cardinal recounts details of Pope’s visit to St. Peter’s tomb

CWN - April 03, 2013

Cardinal Angelo Comastri, Archpriest of St. Peter's Basilica since 2006, has discussed details of Pope Francis’s April 1 visit to St. Peter’s tomb, which is located in the necropolis under the basilica.

“His first stop was before the Egyptian Mausoleum (which dates back to the 2nd century),” Cardinal Comastri recounted. “In this mausoleum amid many pagan tombs there is also a Christian tomb. Christianity in fact, like yeast, was penetrating the pagan world. The Pope exclaimed in admiration: ‘It's like this today, too!’”

“We then made a second stop before the funerary stele of a man called Istatilio,” the cardinal continued. “He was certainly Christian: on his grave is the monogram [chi-rho]of Christ. On the stele is inscribed: ‘He was at peace with everyone and never caused strife.’ The Pope, after reading the phrase, looked at us and said, ‘That is a beautiful program of life.’”

Cardinal Comastri added:

Climbing back up the stairs and having reached the Clementine Chapel, Pope Francis became absorbed in prayer and repeated with a loud voice the three professions of Peter: “Lord, You are the Christ, Son of the Living God”; “Lord, to whom do we go? You have the words of eternal life”; “Lord, You know all things! You know that I love you!” At that moment, we had the distinct impression that the life of Peter rose out of centuries past and became present and living in the current Successor of the Apostle Peter.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/...?storyid=17490

Petrus Romanus.......hmmmmm.

[giovonni]

Posted by MorningSong (here)
OOOOO this is a bit eerie!

[Catholic World News]
Cardinal recounts details of Pope’s visit to St. Peter’s tomb

CWN - April 03, 2013

Cardinal Angelo Comastri, Archpriest of St. Peter's Basilica since 2006, has discussed details of Pope Francis’s April 1 visit to St. Peter’s tomb, which is located in the necropolis under the basilica.

“His first stop was before the Egyptian Mausoleum (which dates back to the 2nd century),” Cardinal Comastri recounted. “In this mausoleum amid many pagan tombs there is also a Christian tomb. Christianity in fact, like yeast, was penetrating the pagan world. The Pope exclaimed in admiration: ‘It's like this today, too!’”

“We then made a second stop before the funerary stele of a man called Istatilio,” the cardinal continued. “He was certainly Christian: on his grave is the monogram [chi-rho]of Christ. On the stele is inscribed: ‘He was at peace with everyone and never caused strife.’ The Pope, after reading the phrase, looked at us and said, ‘That is a beautiful program of life.’”

Cardinal Comastri added:

Climbing back up the stairs and having reached the Clementine Chapel, Pope Francis became absorbed in prayer and repeated with a loud voice the three professions of Peter: “Lord, You are the Christ, Son of the Living God”; “Lord, to whom do we go? You have the words of eternal life”; “Lord, You know all things! You know that I love you!” At that moment, we had the distinct impression that the life of Peter rose out of centuries past and became present and living in the current Successor of the Apostle Peter.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/...?storyid=17490

Petrus Romanus.......hmmmmm.

WOW ...

"Climbing back up the stairs and having reached the Clementine Chapel, Pope Francis became absorbed in prayer and repeated with a loud voice the three professions of Peter: “Lord, You are the Christ, Son of the Living God”; “Lord, to whom do we go? You have the words of eternal life”; “Lord, You know all things! You know that I love you!” At that moment, we had the distinct impression that the life of Peter rose out of centuries past and became present and living in the current Successor of the Apostle Peter."

You got to admire this Jesuit Pope's pr savvy ~ As one could say bravo ~

Cos it sure makes for good show and theater... Especially with witnesses and cameras rolling ...

i am going to let you in on a little secret ... while in the monastery one of my duties (which i enjoyed) was acting as sacristan to a huge church ... part of this was serving mass duty with daily assigned priest ... note there was one colorful Irish priest who i love and admired for his great charity work in Cyprus ~ who when upon leaving the sacristy and entering the main alter area ~ would look towards me and wink ~ it's showtime brother john ...

Note As serious as the sacrament of mass is taken (by the flock), it is still quit a spectacle for one to behold and be apart of ...

[lookbeyond]

I drove past a lady whom i used to attend daily mass with this morning, she was walking to mass, she looked so carefree (retired , no kids - it helps!) and i felt a bit wistful about my life before waking up so to speak, and yet what is the point in life if not to move forward, you cant go back, sometimes its a bit sad-lb

[Muzz]

An eyewitness account of how the Catholic Church operated in Canada.

Two indigenous elders and survivors of Christian internment camps, Stee-mas and Wahtsek, describe why the Queen and the Pope must be arrested for Crimes against Humanity. Their appeal to other countries is to help them ban the Vatican, the Crown and the government and churches of Canada from their territories. Both elders are advisors to the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (www.itccs.org). Interviewed on Squamish Nation land ("Vancouver") on April 8, 2013 by Kevin Annett.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kCkA8Op0-ek

[giovonni]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
I drove past a lady whom i used to attend daily mass with this morning, she was walking to mass, she looked so carefree (retired , no kids - it helps!) and i felt a bit wistful about my life before waking up so to speak, and yet what is the point in life if not to move forward, you cant go back, sometimes its a bit sad-lb

Thank you my friend for sharing this...

We Can't ...

But who am i or anyone in judging someone else's joy or bliss these days ...
For i totally believe now, all of us are here to experience this realm on our own terms...
We are our own creators ~ and thankfully ~ so be it !

PS ~ Thanks Murray for sharing the above video