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    I had a strange dream last night. I was standing on a boat dock looking over a
    beautiful crystal clear lake. So I thought I would take a swim. So I took off my
    clothes and i then proceeded to put my foot into the water to test the temp.
    Has I looked down at my foot, a completely naked young woman floated right
    below my foot. Her hair was short and blond and her eyes were open.
    She was looking right at me. Her eyes were cold dark and piercing.
    I immediately removed my foot from the water.I started running up the boat dock
    away from the lake. I felt like I was being chased by a group of entities.
    I then awoke from my dream. Interpretations please.

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    I see it this way:
    Everything in your dream is you.
    Water is feelings (not emotions).
    Woman in this case is most likely your feminine part, your anima.
    Boats are used to float on the water, not in it.
    Dock is harbour, a place to anker, a place to separate water and ground.

    My guess is: You have an issue with your feminine side. Feminine is of course not the same as womanish, but everything that has to do with intuition, taking care of, meditate, take in in stead of giving out (maskuline). Maskuline-feminine; ying-yang :-) But this you know I gather.

    Something in you wants you to explore or embrase your feminine side. You are too stuck on the ground, and too afraid of beeing whole. Basicly an anxiety to loose control, which is a maskuline thing. The good thing here is that your feminine side, your anima is trying to make this easy for you by presenting such an lovely environment. Sitting at the dock of the bay, so to speak. A wonderfull thing, time to jump inn and explore :-) You are waiting for you, only heaven knows her limit!

    All the best

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    Suppressing the little woman, go on have a cry now and then. Have you got short blonde hair? she may represent your intuitive spiritual side and you may be in denial that she even exists. what do you think it means?

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    Suppressing the little woman, go on have a cry now and then. Have you got short blonde hair? she may represent your intuitive spiritual side and you may be in denial that she even exists. what do you think it means?
    I'm not real sure. I did have a argument with my sister & mother yesterday.
    My sister is gay. I don't have a problem with her being gay It's just she always
    picks The worst losers to have a relationship with. When my mother
    and sister came by yesterday she started talking about about her 3rd soon to be
    failed love this year. I had enough and I said some things that I probably
    shouldn't have said. I told her she was a needy person and needy people repel
    other people. She started crying and I continued to say some hurtful things.
    I didn't want to hurt my sister I just wanted her to wake up. She feels like
    she can only be a complete person if she has someone in her life.

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    No one can interpret this for you but you can go back into the experience as a guided
    mediation. Put yourself back there and test the possibilities. What would happen if you
    turned around and faced the entities? Or if you jumped into the water despite your fear?
    What's the absolute worst that could happen? Is there a worst anyway? Bring a fishing pole
    and see what you catch!!
    And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.
    And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh. --Nietzsche

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    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    Quote Posted by sheme (here)
    Suppressing the little woman, go on have a cry now and then. Have you got short blonde hair? she may represent your intuitive spiritual side and you may be in denial that she even exists. what do you think it means?
    I'm not real sure. I did have a argument with my sister & mother yesterday.
    My sister is gay. I don't have a problem with her being gay It's just she always
    picks The worst losers to have a relationship with. When my mother
    and sister came by yesterday she started talking about about her 3rd soon to be
    failed love this year. I had enough and I said some things that I probably
    shouldn't have said. I told her she was a needy person and needy people repel
    other people. She started crying and I continued to say some hurtful things.
    I didn't want to hurt my sister I just wanted her to wake up. She feels like
    she can only be a complete person if she has someone in her life.
    That was my first thought the foot on the body -eyes staring the male hair cut on a female, I think you need to talk to your sis- isn't it sweet that she loves you so much you made her cry. She obviously needs your approval keep making her feel low and of course she will aim low with her relationships. You need to talk.
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    So, was it your feminine side that talked to your sister, or your maskuline side, which by the way can be quite unbalanced without the support of the feminine side? ;-)

    All the best

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    As someone who has kept a dream diary and researched into dream interpreting for years, I don't see this dream as a feminine-side issue. I think the water symbolised "truth" or "salvation" that you've been searching for a long time (as it was so pure). You wanted to enter "naked" - stripped of pride, anger, jealousy, etc. But there's a war on for your soul and the "mermaid" creature prevented you from entering the truth or salvation and you ran away from it chased by "dark" entities. I think this could be a warning of up-coming events - you will have a choice to run away from (e.g. leave your home or country) or stay and face them.

    P.S. I think its great you trust us enough to share such personal info/issues as I feel scared about doing this myself. I'll draw up the courage to try to share and see what happens.
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    have been working with my dreams for a significant time and find them an amazingly fast and loving way to heal psychic imbalance, shadow material, and on and on. I'd agree with the Royal Wizard's take on it. It sounds to me like it's been triggered by the disagreement with your sister and interesting that your mother was there too. I understand your concern about your sister's partner choices so it sounds like you said some harsh things albeit in an attempt to shake her awake. However she was hurt and cried. You feel concern and a desire to help her out of a repeating pattern. Your sister probably wants empathy and listening to and holding by her masculine brother projection.

    If it was my dream, and I suggest that your feminine shocks or scares you and as you run away being chased by dark entities or shadows are just repressed or ignored parts of your own psyche. This happens after you chose not to go into the water because the woman is there. Her eyes are cold and dark and piercing, sounds like a mistrust of the feminine which maybe be because of your subjective experience of the women in your family, but chosing not to engage with your feminine will result in you being chased by your own "ghosts".

    Sounds like your expressed your anger/harsness but not your softer side, eg I feel upset hearing this from you. I'd really recommend NVC as a mode of communication if you want to research something check out the stuff especially around the empathy giving. Its also very good at helping people establish their own needs as drivers of their feelings. It could help with the stuff around your sister and its paticularly good at unveiling teh vulnerability in oneself.

    You can also go back into the dream in a meditation and dialogue with the woman in the water and speak to her, or on the way back to the dock, breathe in courage and turn around and afce the "entities" and find out what they want.

    Good luck, dream work is the best!

    PS Also dreams can work on many levels at the same time in my experience. They can be triggered by the events of the day and just be processing by the psyche, and they can be reflections of small things that happened during the day which are microcosms of the macrocosm so to speak, ie small behaviours that reveal defining patterns and which can be worked through by using the information in the dream. And at the same time they can also be precognitive. I record all dreams I remember either during the night or first thing in the morning, I have a journal actually under my pillow oth a torch and a pen because I find them exceptionally valuable. Any dream, even ones when I have woken up and though well that was a load of old rubbish are rich and touching and humourous and very important information from the part of me that is always awake and sees beyond my persona/ego and can help me heal my shadow/projections, tells me how I really feel about situations, where I am kidding myself around certain people/relationships, where I am wasting my time or sabotaging myself. Dreams and the dream time has a purpose and a reason. Thought all that was important to say. Bonne Voyage!
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    In my experience of dream interpretation, there are few genuinely universal symbols, but extensive water is one of them. It normally represents the Higher Self, your own Higher Self (your "Soul"). You were ready to take a plunge, except not quite, as it turned out. Even though you took your clothes off. The female was a "guardian at the threshhold", another universal symbol. The dream is saying you haven't faced and resolved some personal issues that hinder you from communicating with your Higher Self. Too much "static" that keeps you from hearing your Higher Self. I suggest you need to make the pure lake "stronger", so to speak, so that when you want to step into it it will so to speak be more real to you than any distractions. You need to face and stop listening so much to the ego, and learn to make stillness stronger inside you than it is so far.

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    Interesting Mulder. I don't see the contradiction here, just two slightly different angels of the same thing. The maskuline and the feminine must be totally united for man to find his way home. What I call anima, you call truth and salvation. In my view there is no salvation without the unity mentioned. To enter naked is the same thing as to be honest and meet another side of one self without prejudice, or as you say; without emotions (not to be confused with feelings). The dark entities that prevent the bathing so to speak, is maybe not entities outside one self, but maybe all the programmes society as a whole have inflicted upon us, all the rights and wrongs.

    It could be a warning, and a warning it is. To meet an upcoming disaster with an inner war going on is not a good thing. To continue life without unity within one self is a loss. Thats what we all struggle for, isn't it? Inner peace? :-)

    So, I see no contradiction here, only different language (words).

    I agree with you; it's a great thing to trust us with sharing personal/private information like this, so thank you jagman.

    all the best

    TRW (with a lifetime of dreamwork in the luggage)

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    Punch in some of your topics in your dream at this website here. Www.dreammoods.com

    Here are some of the meanings in your dream.

    Lake: To see a lake in your dream signifies your emotional state of mind. You feel restricted and that you can't express your emotions freely. Alternatively, the lake may provide you with solace, security, and peace of mind. If the lake is clear and calm, then it symbolizes your inner peace. If the lake is disturbed, then you may be going through some emotional turmoil.

    The Lake is calm in your dream. Seems like a good sign to me.

    Woman:
    Woman To see a woman in your dream represents nurturance, passivity, caring nature, and love. It refers to your own female aspects or your mother. Alternatively, a woman indicates temptation and guilt. If you know the woman, then it may reflect concerns and feelings you have about her.

    To see an old woman in your dream indicates your concerns about aging and growing old. Alternatively, the old woman may be an archetypal figure to symbolize feminine power.

    To see a group of women talking in your dream refers to some gossip.

    To see a pregnant woman in your dream symbolizes abundant wealth.

    Being Naked:
    Naked To dream that you are naked denotes fear of being found out and exposed over your activities. You feel that you are being misjudged.

    To dream that you suddenly discover your nudity and are trying to cover up signifies your vulnerability to a situation.�

    To see a naked person in your dream and you are disgusted by it represents some anxiety about discovering the naked truth about that person or situation. It may also foretell of an illicit love affair, a loss of prestige or some scandalous activity. On the other hand, if you are accepting of someone else's nudity, then it implies that you can see right through them and their intentions. Or perhaps, you are completely accepting them for who they are. If you do not care about someone else's nudity, then it suggests that you need to learn not to be afraid of rejection.

    To dream that everyone is naked except for you implies that there is something you are hiding from others. It may also mean that you are nervous about something. Alternatively, the dream indicates that you are being overly critical of others. Instead of being accepting, you tend to find flaws in others. *For an in depth analysis, click on Common Dreams: Naked.

    Peace W.f.
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    I was going to say almost everything Wizard already said, so I won't.

    You might refer to the poem the Lady of Shallott (tennyson) if you want a description of very similar imagery and content to your dream.
    Tennyson wrote about a woman who was imprisoned in a tower, fell in love with a knight, and in spite of a curse preventing her from leaving her tower,
    she decided to enter a boat and meet Lancelot (the knight) in Camelot at the cost of her life.

    As Lancelot stood at the PIER'S EDGE in Camelot/Avalon looking at the lady in the water,
    the thing that struck him the most was that "she had a lovely face".

    In your dream, the woman had piercing eyes and was likely not yet dead.
    But perhaps the dream was saying to you, you had made someone die a "little death" because you hurt her with your words.

    I think the best explanation is what you said yourself, it has to do with sexuality (water) and your acceptance of your sister...

    Lancelot accepted the loveliness of the cursed woman, after all,

    be your sister's knight in shining armor,
    she will never love men who can't protect her
    perhaps it is not your sister but in fact the people close to her who damage her femininity.

    think on that and don't be hard on yourself or your sister.

    think about it for a moment and ask yourself if lesbianism is really that harmful.
    it offers less harm to the human body than a normal relationship and in fact avoids a lot of the conflicts normally experienced by couples.


    i am beginning to have much less problem with gays -- the ones out of the closet anyhow.
    i feel that the closet gays just make their situation worse and the "out in the open" gays have to work extra hard for their rights

    something is out of whack.
    and those of you who believe in overpopulation certainly should not be anti homo

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    Carl Jung identified with a 13th century red cross knight in one of his dreams.
    If you dreamed the scene of Lancelot and the woman in the water it could be that you should take the Jungian interpretation offered by Wizard
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    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    ...be your sister's knight in shining armor,
    she will never love men who can't protect her
    perhaps it is not your sister but in fact the people close to her who damage her femininity.

    think on that and don't be hard on yourself or your sister.

    think about it for a moment and ask yourself if lesbianism is really that harmful.
    it offers less harm to the human body than a normal relationship and in fact avoids a lot of the conflicts normally experienced by couples.


    i am beginning to have much less problem with gays -- the ones out of the closet anyhow.
    i feel that the closet gays just make their situation worse and the "out in the open" gays have to work extra hard for their rights

    something is out of whack.
    and those of you who believe in overpopulation certainly should not be anti homo

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    Carl Jung identified with a 13th century red cross knight in one of his dreams.
    If you dreamed the scene of Lancelot and the woman in the water it could be that you should take the Jungian interpretation offered by Wizard
    This is very good advice - I wasn't able to make peace with a close family member and they've died, and now I regret not trying harder (even though I got nowhere with her in over 10 years).

    I also agree with this view on gays, the open ones have probably done alot of self development work. The "hidden" ones aren't fooling anyone except themselves IMO and really have little to give/share as you: "can't love others unless you love yourself."

    Although, paradoxically I see their community "falling off a cliff" now that homosexuality is legal MOD-EDIT removed insulting comments.
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    Great post Tesla -etc! Love the connections you've made esp the camelot/avalon link. So many lovely links. Esp Avalon/Camelot

    Also prompted me to think of the painting "Ophelia" by Millais

    http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/...ophelia-n01506

    and then story of Echo and Narcissus - the reflection, masculine and feminine, yet in this dream the reflection is repelling, a subtle twist on Narcissus and the shadow projection.

    And I am filled with an awe at the power of the dream maker to churn up the personal and collective information and whilst we are sleeping project on the screens of our inner eyes a movie which is intricately bespoke and customised medicine.

    Thankyou so much Jagman for sharing this dream, very courageous to share something so personal. It's a great dream.

    <3

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    jump right in knowing what is around you, No fear of jumping right in 100 percent ... you must be considering an important task or step ...
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    Hey TRW, Am interetsed to know what your differentiation is between feelings and emotions, how you describe the two?

    Many thanks, T x



    Quote Posted by The Royal Wizard (here)
    I see it this way:
    Everything in your dream is you.
    Water is feelings (not emotions).
    Woman in this case is most likely your feminine part, your anima.
    Boats are used to float on the water, not in it.
    Dock is harbour, a place to anker, a place to separate water and ground.

    My guess is: You have an issue with your feminine side. Feminine is of course not the same as womanish, but everything that has to do with intuition, taking care of, meditate, take in in stead of giving out (maskuline). Maskuline-feminine; ying-yang :-) But this you know I gather.

    Something in you wants you to explore or embrase your feminine side. You are too stuck on the ground, and too afraid of beeing whole. Basicly an anxiety to loose control, which is a maskuline thing. The good thing here is that your feminine side, your anima is trying to make this easy for you by presenting such an lovely environment. Sitting at the dock of the bay, so to speak. A wonderfull thing, time to jump inn and explore :-) You are waiting for you, only heaven knows her limit!

    All the best

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    Hello Taliesin,
    I know you were asking him,
    but my shrink told me once that I needed to "think before I emote".

    i suppose feelings are what come before conscious thinking,
    the natural internal response to our cumulative or immediate experience,
    and conscious thinking is the filter we apply before we emote, or act out.

    emoting is expressing thoughts with feeling.
    for example, you hit your foot and say "****". You are emoting suddenly without having really felt anything but pain and maybe some anger.
    but if you are sitting on the toilet looking in the mirror, you experience complicated feelings right before you say "god i am ugly" or "man i look hot".

    he (shrink) also told me, feelings are real.
    whatever that means.
    that we should heed them or at least take them seriously,
    i guess because they are the precursors of disorganized thought...

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    Well I am not big on interpretations, you yourself are a better reader for that.

    However in the Cayce way, you can ask yourself to do a certain thing before sleep. Ask yourself to talk to her before you fade off into sleep. If you repeat dream, perhaps she will tell you what she wants. Even this is a part of your own conscious you can unlock it, fear will push it away.
    Why not now?

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    Emotions: the three F's; fight, flight and freeze, and all in between; irritation, jelousy, anger, ego-hurt, exctasy, arrousment (is that a word..?), being in love the first 6 months.... fill in the blanks.
    Feelings; the knowing of the heart, basicly connected to real love whatever it is directed againts. The teachings of Lester Levensson is quit clear on this. Feelings is the core of our being before the ego enters, which it often does, mostly all the time.

    Not that easy to explain really....emotion, ego in motion; e-motion....?

    all the best

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