Dimension of Scientology

[kanishk]

This is a video in which some people are telling their story about how they completed their bridge in Freezone i.e. outside the Church of $cientology.

Scientology The Complete Bridge in Ten Years

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iKuZVB9K6WI

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAoVI0kK_9k

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ksKnaEmofps

[wegge]

what a beatiful group!
I´m currently reading Peter Moons "the Montauk book of the dead" and it´s kinda oautobiograhpical. He spent 11 years in the Sea Org.
He´s talking about a lot of ups and downs and the "monkey cage", that´s what happening when a lot of people each with their own filtern/engrams come together.
What touched me the most was his description of his 1st years in Scientology where he´s describing the community of a church, everyday there are seminars, a lot of auditing is going on and many like minded people with a desire to know more about how things in the universe and in themselves work.

[Aurelius]

for completeness sake .. people should ask themselves the question: "where did Ron get the main ideas from that put him on his path? what did he bump into that gave him the ideologies / concepts? ie. where did it start and what caused it to begin then?"

answer: from what i understand ... he found? / stole? a little book !!

ps. i believe this to be S cien tology 2.0 (the next step in it's evolution):

http://www.spiritologie.org/the-book/

[Hervé]

Posted by Aurelius (here)
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answer: from what i understand ... he found? / stole? a little book !!

[...]

Which little book are you referring to?

[Aurelius]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Aurelius (here)
[...]
answer: from what i understand ... he found? / stole? a little book !!

[...]

Which little book are you referring to?

this was explained to me a few years back by a some people that had been in Sc ien tology for many years (they are now what is referred to as "freez oners") ...

from what I understand Ron was always interested in the occult, mysticism etc. from an early age ...

i was told he came across a soldier who was wounded? / dead? during the war ... Ron took a book from his coat .. from what i understand it was a book with coded information / diagrams typical of that which the Maso n's have .. the idea's and concepts in there were of great use to him .. and dia netics followed thereafter ...

i was also told patrick flan agan invented (for them) the e-meter that they use still to this day (no doubt it has been tweaked through the years by others) ...

[wegge]

when was the incident with the book? maybe it was a culmination of things. when he was 27 in 1938 he had a NDE but was able to resist the command at the end of it "to forget about it all".
That seems to really got him started, afterwards he wrote excalibur which is a anticipation of Scientology. It seems that he released Dianetics 1st in 1950 compared to Scientology in 1952 to not break too hard into peoples confort zones, getting a common denominator. That also explains how he was able to do such a quantum leap in such a short period of time, in fact he didn´t do it in such a short time.

about the occult thing: it´s known that he worked together with jack parsons in the 1940´s.

[Hervé]

To put to rest that Parsons-Crowley urban legend:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

For starter, there is this letter from Parsons to Crowley:

“About 3 months ago I met Capt L Ron Hubbard, a writer and explorer of whom I had known for some time …. [no omission] He is a gentleman, red hair, green eyes, honest and intelligent and we have become great friends. He moved in with me about two months ago, and although Betty and I are still friendly, she has transferred her sexual affections to him.

Although he has no formal training in Magick he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. From some of his experiences I deduce he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He is the most Thelemic person I have ever met and is in complete accord with our own principles. He is also interested in establishing the New Aeon, but for cogent reasons I have not introduced him to the Lodge.

We are pooling our resources in a partnership which will act as a parent company to control our business ventures. I think I have made a great gain, and as Betty and I are the best of friends, there is little loss ….

I need a magical partner. I have many experiments in mind. I hope my elemental gets off the dime [gets moving] – the next time I tie up with a woman it will be on [my] own terms.”

Then, a research done in an attempt to get to the bottom of these gossips yields the following:

Critics have accused Ron of “swindling” Jack Parsons, and while Wright doesn’t add new news to this theory, he certainly manages to leave some important facts out.

Basically, Ron and Jack, in the short 4-5 months that they hung out and became good friends in 1945/1946, decided to go into business together — it was going to be a wide ranging enterprise, and the first idea was to buy three yachts cheaply on the east coast (Miami), bring them across the Panama Canal by hiring crews, and then selling them at a significant mark-up to the rich celebrity crowd in southern California. Parsons put up most of the money, but didn’t have to do any work. Hubbard put in a bit of money, but was responsible for doing all the legwork. This is a common business arrangement, where one partner provides the money, the other takes care of operations.

Beyond that, there were a number of future ideas that the two had thought up, including adding Hubbard’s writings to the partnership, Parsons was going to add some of the assets from his rocket work. (Source: Strange Angel, by Pendle). According to Heinlein, Hubbard talked up an idea of going to other countries, including a “China venture” — in one letter to Hubbard in 1946, Heinlein scolded Hubbard for being too talkative about China, getting his (Heinlein’s) nephews overly excited about exotic trips there.
[Source: Heinlein biography by Patterson]).

But forty years later, this became “Hubbard tried to swindle Parsons” in the minds of his critics, for two reasons:

(1) Because Ron was still in the Navy, he was required to get permission to leave the country. He listed South America, Central America and China as possible destinations. Because China was nowhere near the Panama Canal, this, in the minds of Hubbard’s critics, was due to Ron’s “secret plans to go to China”. Yeah, real secret — Heinlein was actually upset that Ron was talking about it too much.

(2) Crowley and his OTO team didn’t trust people — they didn’t trust Jack (to think for himself), they didn’t trust someone named Smith. They had endless back-stabbing drama amongst themselves. And their latest object of distrust was Ron. When Crowley (living in England, and having never met Ron) heard about the business venture, he decided that it was all a con by Ron and that he needed to brow-beat Jack, and with the help from other members of the drama-filled OTO, ultimately convinced Jack that Ron was swindling him.

In the mean time, Ron was busily carrying out the business plan (with the help of Betty) in Miami for about a month, had bought the boats and even hired the crews. But Jack had been convinced by Crowley and others that Ron wasn’t staying in touch with Jack enough, and therefore Ron must be onto something tricky. So Jack races across the country to find Ron and Betty doing exactly what they had all agreed to do. Ron had actually purchased three yachts! And worse, he had arranged the crews to sail them through the Panama Canal. The horror of it all!

Jack, having been all worked up by the OTO (and wanting to stay in good graces with Crowley), forced the partnership to be dissolved.

Hubbard and Betty were left thinking: WTF?

(Sources: “Strange Angel”, by Pendle; “Heinlein Biography, Vol 1″, by Patterson.)
—
Believe me, when Hubbard later referred to Aleister Crowley in a lecture as his “good friend”, he was joking. And the audience knew it. They chuckled when he said it.

Hubbard, to start with, was a highly gifted psychic since a very early age..

... make of it what thou wilt...

[wegge]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
To put to rest that Parsons-Crowley urban legend:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

For starter, there is this letter from Parsons to Crowley:

“About 3 months ago I met Capt L Ron Hubbard, a writer and explorer of whom I had known for some time …. [no omission] He is a gentleman, red hair, green eyes, honest and intelligent and we have become great friends. He moved in with me about two months ago, and although Betty and I are still friendly, she has transferred her sexual affections to him.

Although he has no formal training in Magick he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. From some of his experiences I deduce he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He is the most Thelemic person I have ever met and is in complete accord with our own principles. He is also interested in establishing the New Aeon, but for cogent reasons I have not introduced him to the Lodge.

We are pooling our resources in a partnership which will act as a parent company to control our business ventures. I think I have made a great gain, and as Betty and I are the best of friends, there is little loss ….

I need a magical partner. I have many experiments in mind. I hope my elemental gets off the dime [gets moving] – the next time I tie up with a woman it will be on [my] own terms.”

Then, a research done in an attempt to get to the bottom of these gossips yields the following:

Critics have accused Ron of “swindling” Jack Parsons, and while Wright doesn’t add new news to this theory, he certainly manages to leave some important facts out.

Basically, Ron and Jack, in the short 4-5 months that they hung out and became good friends in 1945/1946, decided to go into business together — it was going to be a wide ranging enterprise, and the first idea was to buy three yachts cheaply on the east coast (Miami), bring them across the Panama Canal by hiring crews, and then selling them at a significant mark-up to the rich celebrity crowd in southern California. Parsons put up most of the money, but didn’t have to do any work. Hubbard put in a bit of money, but was responsible for doing all the legwork. This is a common business arrangement, where one partner provides the money, the other takes care of operations.

Beyond that, there were a number of future ideas that the two had thought up, including adding Hubbard’s writings to the partnership, Parsons was going to add some of the assets from his rocket work. (Source: Strange Angel, by Pendle). According to Heinlein, Hubbard talked up an idea of going to other countries, including a “China venture” — in one letter to Hubbard in 1946, Heinlein scolded Hubbard for being too talkative about China, getting his (Heinlein’s) nephews overly excited about exotic trips there.
[Source: Heinlein biography by Patterson]).

But forty years later, this became “Hubbard tried to swindle Parsons” in the minds of his critics, for two reasons:

(1) Because Ron was still in the Navy, he was required to get permission to leave the country. He listed South America, Central America and China as possible destinations. Because China was nowhere near the Panama Canal, this, in the minds of Hubbard’s critics, was due to Ron’s “secret plans to go to China”. Yeah, real secret — Heinlein was actually upset that Ron was talking about it too much.

(2) Crowley and his OTO team didn’t trust people — they didn’t trust Jack (to think for himself), they didn’t trust someone named Smith. They had endless back-stabbing drama amongst themselves. And their latest object of distrust was Ron. When Crowley (living in England, and having never met Ron) heard about the business venture, he decided that it was all a con by Ron and that he needed to brow-beat Jack, and with the help from other members of the drama-filled OTO, ultimately convinced Jack that Ron was swindling him.

In the mean time, Ron was busily carrying out the business plan (with the help of Betty) in Miami for about a month, had bought the boats and even hired the crews. But Jack had been convinced by Crowley and others that Ron wasn’t staying in touch with Jack enough, and therefore Ron must be onto something tricky. So Jack races across the country to find Ron and Betty doing exactly what they had all agreed to do. Ron had actually purchased three yachts! And worse, he had arranged the crews to sail them through the Panama Canal. The horror of it all!

Jack, having been all worked up by the OTO (and wanting to stay in good graces with Crowley), forced the partnership to be dissolved.

Hubbard and Betty were left thinking: WTF?

(Sources: “Strange Angel”, by Pendle; “Heinlein Biography, Vol 1″, by Patterson.)
—
Believe me, when Hubbard later referred to Aleister Crowley in a lecture as his “good friend”, he was joking. And the audience knew it. They chuckled when he said it.

Hubbard, to start with, was a highly gifted psychic since a very early age..

... make of it what thou wilt...

nothing in that quote speaks against that they did "work" together? (Babalon working, invoking the divine feminine through marjorie cameron, a sex magick ritual)
It just seems strange that a bond that should have been created through such an intense ritual could have been destroyed through mal/misinformation coming from Crowley.

I have to read Peter Moons book "Synchronicity and the Seventh Seal" it´s all about about that Parsons/Hubbard/Cameron connection maybe this can clear up things further.

[wegge]

So I got into the book, here are a few parts. Peter Moon met Cameron in the 1990´s and they became friends, that´s how he got this information:

"The Babalon Working, as stated by its progenitor, was intended to counterbalance the aspects of power, violence, and energy that are not only characteristic of the god Mars but of the abusive hierarchal structure of the Catholic Church which has championed those characteristics over the years. Mars is also a key focus in Aleister Crowley´s The Book of the Law, the text of which served as a basis for the rituals concocted for the Babalon Working. There is, however, a missing component in the Book of the Law and that is the full female aspect. Parsons was trying to fix that. In this regard, Jack Parsons believed that the Babalon Working was the completion of Crowley´s work."

p. 148

"The genesis of the Babalon Working really begins with the appearance and association of L. Ron Hubbard. Jack was quite surprised and happy when he met Ron and found a kindred soul who was interested in magick. It was only after he met Ron that he set out on the adventure that was to become known as the Babalon Working. At the inception of the work, Jack realized that he lacked a proper „familiar.“ When a magician engages in a magical act, it is common for them to utilize a „familiar“ which is often a cat or other life form imbibed with the magical will of the magician in the hopes that this creature will facilitate the master will of the magician. In his notes on the Babalon Working, Parsons states that he did not have a typical familiar so he decided to use Ron instead! While this last statement might rub certain adherents the wrongs way, Parsons actually wrote such in his notes. Of course this gives us a rather different slant on what actually happened, but first let us examine the Babalon Working itself.

In January of 1946, Parsons decided he would find an elemental mate to help him in his endeavor to invoke Babalon. He decided to use the Enochian Tables that were utilized by Dr. John Dee and Edward Talbot Kelly from their necromancy sessions four hundred years earlier. Primarily, Jack would invoke and receive occult transmissions from what was considered to be the Goddess Babalon. Ron served as the scribe, but their roles did reverse per his notes. After six days, Jack stirred up some „phenomena“ when he heard nine strong rapid knocks. A table lamp at the opposite corner of the room was thrown violently to the floor and broken. Five days after that, the lights of the house failed. Ron, who was carrying a candle across the kitchen, was struck strongly on the right shoulder and the candle was knocked out of his hand. He called Jack and the two observed a brownish-yellow light which Jack banished with a magical sword. The next day, Ron developed „some sort of astral vision“ and described in detail an old enemy of Jack´s of whom Ron had never heard. Lather that night, Jack heard the raps again with a voice crying „let me go free“. A feeling of tension ensued for four days until, on January 18th in the Mojave Desert, it suddenly ceased. Jack looked at Ron and simply said, „It is done.“ He was absolutely certain that his elemental mate had been found. Soon after returning to Pasadena, Marjorie Cameron suddenly appeared at Jack´s door. Although I have heard different versions of what occured, Cameron had been involved in a minor traffic accident nearby and was led to the door of Jack´s house. Although she had no idea of what was going on, she was ready and eager to work with him.

From January 19th to February 27, 1946, Jack, Marjorie and Ron worked to together to invoke the Goddess Babalon. This included ritual masturbation on Jack´s part in order to create a moonchild as per the eighth degree of the OTO(ordo templi orientalis). Then, the ninth Degree ritual of sexual intercourse occurred between Jack and Marjorie that was designes to incarnate the moonchild that had been created or made to manifest during the Eighth Degree working. Ron was present during the workings.

On February 27th , Ron went back east to New York and Jack returned to the Mojave to invoke Babalon whereupon he was commanded to write Liber 49, a manuscript of seventy-seven verses dictated from the Goddess Babalon.

When Ron returned about a week later, Jack kept his recent invocations of Babalon secret from Ron, but they continued their work. Now, Ron acted as the dictator and Jack acted as the scribe. Ron was transmitting Babalon and instructions were given to construct a black box. It is not completely clear, but it appears that this black box was utilized to hold the sacrament which would have most likely been the genital excretions of Jack and Marjorie.

Ron´s instructions are followed and the eventual outcome was that Jack was completely sure that Babalon had been incarnated on the Earth. "

p. 154/155

"It was in the late 1940´s when Heinlein would visit and frequent „the Parsonage“. Every Sunday evening, all sorts of offbeat and unique creatures would gather at the Parson´s house for a potluck event. There were many stimulating creative and esoteric discussions. It was an opportunity for all sorts of networking. It was into this environment which L. Ron Hubbard came, but he arrived before the advent of Cameron. Cameron liked Ron very much and indicated that he and Jack were like brothers. She said that as a Pisces, he was spiritual and very deep. She believed that Ron had been a Wilson in a past life as well as having Wilson lineage in this one. She did not particularly agree with the scathing articles and publications which have portrayed Hubbard as a Scoundrel for absconing with Jack´s money. This is in reference to an incident in 1946 when Jack, Ron, and Sarah Hubbard formed a partnership known as Allied Enterprises. Allied was set up to buy yachts on the east coast and sell them for a profit on the west coast. Jack put up most of the money, and when Ron and Sarah arrived in Floriada, they purchased a yacht and seemed to be indulging themselves in a pleasure cruise to the detriment of the partnership. Jack had to employ the law, and he sued them in order to retrieve about one-third of the entire investment. Cameron believed that Ron had every intention of bringing the yacht to California, but she felt that aftereffects of the Babalon Working were still operating in his psyche. First, she thought the familiarity of the Caribbean waters reminded him of a time in a previous life when he was a pirate, most probably Henry Morgan, who she thought was also of the Wilson lineage. But, more importantly, she felt that when Ron and Jack engaged in the Babalon Working they were emulating the earlier work of John Dee and Edward Talbot Kelly.

Although Dee and Kelly are pretty well known by most people who study magick, the full significance of their work is not fully appreciated by most magicians and is certainly not a staple to the studies of ordinary history. In fact, John Dee has pretty much been blackballed from academic history.

Edward Kelly had a reputation as a scoundrel and even had sef with Dee´s wife at one point when Kelly´s spiritual sourced indicated they should indulge in wife swapping. By reason of the fact that Jack and Ron were so deeply invoking the magical aethyrs that had been translated and scribed by Dee and Kelly, Cameron was not in the least surprised that some aspects of their personalities might have rubbed off on Jack and Ron. (see in Amzer´s post above that Sarah turned from Jack to Ron!)"

p.158

"There is perhaps another point I should mention with regard to Jack and Ron. It has often been said that Hubbard and Jack had severed relations and never saw each again after the incident in Dade County. This concerned their partnership know as Allied Enterprises where Jack had Hubbard arrested and placed into custody in order to resolve their business conflicts. Cameron told me that the two men met on friendly terms at least one other time after that incident. Hubbard had approached Jack in order to get funding for the Dianetics movement. There was , however, no money to fund anyone. Cameron said that Ron and „wiped him out“. According to George (friend of Jack), Jack once made a disparaging comment about Ron and said that he „was a science fiction writer who ripped people off.“

I report this last statement only because it was said, but Cameron´s words indicate that this statement was not fully representative of Jack´s feelings about Ron. She said he considered Ron a brother and that he really loved him. There is no question that Jack was deeply hurt by Ron´s actions. Cameron said that she liked Ron, too. "

p. 248