What Would You Do?

[Fred Steeves]

Just stumbled across this old thread I started nearly 2 years ago here (May 2011), and was suddenly quite curious as to how it might play out now in comparison:

"The long awaited shift has occurred, the balance of power on Earth has finally shifted as well. Humanity, having awakened, is no longer suffering under it's endless oppression, and is now free to live life as they please.

TPTW have been identified, each and every major player. Every soul on the planet is now fully informed as to their true history, and what has been done over the many millennia to them and their ancestors.

A jury panel of 12 highly respected people from around the world has been set up to decide what the consequences should be for these oppressors, and you have been chosen to be a member of this panel due to your understanding of these matters, and your spiritual awareness.

The arguments have been made. The guilty now bow their heads before you, and you can hear a pin drop as the whole world stops, and waits to hear the recommendations for sentencing.

This is your chance to set things right once and for all, what would your recommendation be?"

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

Cheers,
Fred

[christian]

Other. For if it would really come to the point where they would stand before a judge and their true history would be known, then a massive shift in awareness of the general population must have occured first to facilitate that. With this new awareness, there would be a solution that would involve the utilization of higher discernment and abilities, I think we'd come up with something truly ingenious then.

[Orph]

Well, you didn't say what you would do. Since I don't believe in punishment, I wouldn't be sentencing them to some kind of prison or anything. I would do nothing to them at all. Since we all are free from this oppression, that means they no longer have any power over us. They would have to become "one of us" or they would simply shrivel and die of their own accord. (Of course, I could be wrong)!! Maybe it's not such a good idea for me to be on the jury panel.

[Star Tsar]

Hey Fred & Fellow Avalonians,
I voted for Exile, Having given it some more thought I wish to change my vote.
If we have "awakened" why would we feel the need to punish Reckless/Undesirable/Criminal behaviour?
I feel its better to turn the other cheek & lets just all live in peace & harmony like we never have been able to before!
For this reason I'd like to abstain...

[CD7]

Welp hopefully ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the old world remained... so court system who? Prison wht? The ptb Who? lol ALL tht would matter to me is tht there IS CHANGE.

[gripreaper]

Who was it who said, a problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it? Therefore, the answer lies in the next level of consciousness, because courts, judgment, punishment and such notions are part of a dying paradigm and would not exist.

Part of the transformation, is we become transparent, all is brought into the light of day, and separation is found out to be what it truly is, a figment of the illusion.

So, if we are all godsparks of the one, all a light filament of the whole, then these godsparks, no longer playing the game of duality and polarization, would not provide contrast from which to view the polarities, and would just be, as they are now, part of a co-creation.

Only difference is we would be conscious. And therein lies my 2000'th post at Avalon.

[william r sanford72]

i feel that being left behind...from the shift itself would consume whatever they had left of a soul..spirit..that moment of realization of what they lost.....potent stuff. thats why i choose other.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Orph (here)
Well, you didn't say what you would do.

Well no I didn't Orph, mainly because of not wanting to influence anything. But now that you've called me out, I voted other as well.

[Chester]

Posted by christian (here)
Other. For if it would really come to the point where they would stand before a judge and their true history would be known, then a massive shift in awareness of the general population must have occurred first to facilitate that. With this new awareness, there would be a solution that would involve the utilization of higher discernment and abilities, I think we'd come up with something truly ingenious then.

I could not imagine a better answer than this - wow dude... just wow.

and wow again... every single post after too - congrats on 2,000 gripreaper - all always quality posts.

great thread Fred.

yes - "other."

[Deej]

Can I pick a time a little further out in this timeline? How about a time when humanity has awakened to the conclusion that there is no evil, bad, oppression, etc... there is only perspective on what is?

Pick any historical event you want, say, Hiroshima and the atomic bomb. We can read the history books from our schools and see the necessity for that bomb for USA and ally interests... from the Japanese point of view? Not so much... Do you really think that Japanese school children are taught that bomb saved the day!

Take any event and you can build a case for different perspectives on it, IF your morality allows you to think outside your moral constraints.

My particular bent on all the events that are taking place is that they are necessary! I make that statement with the full knowledge that it might come with great resistance. It is not a widely held understanding!

I encourage people to let go of their judgements and let the fear of "not knowing all the answers" wash over them and be replaced with the confidence that everything happens as it should.

Everyone, from sage to elite, is playing their part in this wonderful drama we call life. If you feel it is necessary to protest on Washington or work in your garden and let the politicians handle the politics, then play your part. All the roles are important.

Without delving deeper into my philosophy behind these statements. The question was asked what I would do... and I'll stick to the topic of this thread and answer. This is only my opinion and I don't ask anyone to concur...

I would thank these evil bastards for bringing this corrupt, unsustainable system to its knees and wish them a happy journey as they are carted off to be publicly be-headed or imprisoned or rehabilitated or whatever the ones making that decision decided.

Deciding their fate is not my particular role... and I am thankful for that!

:rantoff:

[Deej]

Posted by CD7 (here)
Welp hopefully ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the old world remained... so court system who? Prison wht? The ptb Who? lol ALL tht would matter to me is tht there IS CHANGE.

That is a beautiful summary to what took me paragraphs to say! Thanks

[Sidney]

Full and ABSOLUTE RESTITUTION..... Pay us all the money they have stolen from us. Rehabilitate the earth to its original pristine state. Reinstate a fair and realistic law based on our rights as citizens. Put balance back into the economy. Get rid of harmful pharmaceuticals, and allow only beneficial healing modalities be used. After they do all of that, then they should be hung upside down by their ($&)@(*+ eternally.

[crosby]

i said 'other' because here is what i would like to see: every person arrested and formally charged should be placed in a prison facility surrounding with mandatory hard labor for 18 hours a day. they should have to suffer the same way that others have had to suffer under their regime. no parole, no pardon, and no reprieve. for the rest of their lives they should have to live this way. or not live. oh yes, i would like electronic surveillance going on 24 hours a day.........you know, the kind that messes with the brain, maybe makes them suicidal or homicidal and they can try to kill each other every day..... no escape, no where to hide...... this is what i envision.
regards, corson

[music]

I started a similar thread a while ago too, though I think people were unable to see the point of the exercise. We consider moral dilemmas as a "practice run", so that when we are presented with a tough decision, we stand more chance of making the right one. This ties in with this thread also, where my mother's advice to me to "prepare for the worst and it won't happen" is expressed - because energetically we have learned the lesson first so no longer need the experience.

The reaction I received to my moral dilemma thread is actually a good example of pack dynamics and elitism within a community, where an alpha male type member came in and criticised me because he misunderstood the intent of the thread and so a bandwagon was created. The issue with mine perhaps too was that in mine, I asked people to consider what they would do if offered a chance to join the oppressors, rather than cast themselves as magnanimous judges with power of life or death over them. All in all, an interesting exploration of human pyschology, for me at least.

[BrianEn]

I went with rehabilitation. It just seemed like the right option. Now if they can't be rehabbed Life Without depending on the severity of their involvments. In the end I'm not realy sure. Case to case I believe becuse I can't think you can fix a problem with the same attitudes that created it. So in the end just don't know.

[Sunny-side-up]

If after the shift there was anything left like ego! Well at the very most I would have shocked them by holding there hands while giving them a light kiss on the forehead and a smile, that would be a shock ha.

But I think along the lines of christian's =

Other. For if it would really come to the point where they would stand before a judge and their true history would be known, then a massive shift in awareness of the general population must have occured first to facilitate that. With this new awareness, there would be a solution that would involve the utilization of higher discernment and abilities, I think we'd come up with something truly ingenious then.

and the gripreaper's =

Who was it who said, a problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it? Therefore, the answer lies in the next level of consciousness, because courts, judgment, punishment and such notions are part of a dying paradigm and would not exist.

I voted Other.
Interesting post Fred, liked it

[BrianEn]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
If after the shift there was anything left like ego! Well at the very most I would have shocked them by holding there hands while giving them a light kiss on the forehead and a smile, that would be a shock ha.

But I think along the lines of christian's =

Other. For if it would really come to the point where they would stand before a judge and their true history would be known, then a massive shift in awareness of the general population must have occured first to facilitate that. With this new awareness, there would be a solution that would involve the utilization of higher discernment and abilities, I think we'd come up with something truly ingenious then.

and the gripreaper's =

Who was it who said, a problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it? Therefore, the answer lies in the next level of consciousness, because courts, judgment, punishment and such notions are part of a dying paradigm and would not exist.

I voted Other.
Interesting post Fred, liked it

I think it was Albert Einstein that said. I heard it before I knew who said it.

[CivilDawn]

Posted by christian (here)
With this new awareness, there would be a solution that would involve the utilization of higher discernment and abilities, I think we'd come up with something truly ingenious then.

A hard yes to this statement.

With this awareness would a panel of deciders even exist?
With this awareness these beings would never have power over us again because we would have a full knowing our origins, our present state of being and our potential.
Would we want to impose on their free will? I don't believe I would. Punishment would be succumbing to the fear of being hurt again. Such an action might be a step backward from this new awakening.

I would want to spend more time connecting with and repairing the earth and its inhabitants than deciding what to do with "deviants".

I vote other, as I am still in the same state of awareness.

[Mandala]

My ultimate choice would to reincarnate to learn the lesson of the harm and hurt they cause. They signed up to be the villain last time , now they can be the victims.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

How about having them do community work service and at the same time require them do to some reading, watching of videos, etc., that would help bring them to a place of understanding that there is a better way.