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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    I almost forgot I had a counter for you to consider about the backpacks.

    Its very possible that they all were carrying backpacks with the nessesary equipment to dismantle a bomb in case one of them found one.

    Also, there are pictures of them on the scene after the bomb exploded. The man holding the radiation detector is an example.

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    Very interesting that you bring up the exact two things that I was going to bring up to debate the theory that Vivek posted Dennis.

    Indeed, the bulky backpacks seem very unusual for security personnel. If you are set on securing the area for bombs, you don't want incognito security people walking around that look like they might have bombs on them.
    One thing though... You say that there are many men like these spotted with those particular outfits and backpacks. I have only seen the photo's of those two man. Are you or any one else aware of other photo's of different men with backpacks and the same outfits Dennis?

    I have not studied the footage of the aftermath of the bombings, but if it is indeed true that these man with kaki trousers and black jackets are nowhere to be found, this would be a good indication of their mindset and motives to me. If you are really there to act as security, then you would behave different and not make yourself scares after the bombing.

    I thought that Vivek made some valid points though and it could very well be true imo.

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    Shoot out with Marathon Suspect?????

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    I almost forgot I had a counter for you to consider about the backpacks.

    Its very possible that they all were carrying backpacks with the nessesary equipment to dismantle a bomb in case one of them found one.

    Also, there are pictures of them on the scene after the bomb exploded. The man holding the radiation detector is an example.

    Okay, goodnight.
    But bombs are not "dismantled." That only happens in the movies. Real bombs are put inside a containment vessel and explosives are used to blow up the supposed bomb. And when you see a real bomb-squad guy's outfit, you'll realize it could not fit in one of those backpacks.

    Sorry, but the backpacks are very very odd for most of the security guys to have one. And they ALL disappear after the blast.

    So there is a photo showing one of the (minimum 6) guys with khaki pants, khaki shoes, and black jackets after the blast. And, he's not running away from the scene. He's walking away from the scene. Walking away from the wounded.

    Yes, the fact that he's holding that device makes me think he could have been a real security guy, hired for the event, and was doing his job. But when the blast went off... he certainly appears to be walking away.

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    Very interesting that you bring up the exact two things that I was going to bring up to debate the theory that Vivek posted Dennis.

    Indeed, the bulky backpacks seem very unusual for security personnel. If you are set on securing the area for bombs, you don't want incognito security people walking around that look like they might have bombs on them.
    One thing though... You say that there are many men like these spotted with those particular outfits and backpacks. I have only seen the photo's of those two man. Are you or any one else aware of other photo's of different men with backpacks and the same outfits Dennis?

    I have not studied the footage of the aftermath of the bombings, but if it is indeed true that these man with kaki trousers and black jackets are nowhere to be found, this would be a good indication of their mindset and motives to me. If you are really there to act as security, then you would behave different and not make yourself scares after the bombing.

    I thought that Vivek made some valid points though and it could very well be true imo.
    Hi Eram,

    The images with the 2 guys with the criss-cross lines (that you linked): both have backpacks.

    If you look at the first image in Vivek's post with the images, there are 3 guys. The middle one definitely has a backpack, the one on the left appears to have shoulder straps so I think he has one too. The guy on the right with coat open, it appears not, unless that black thing on the far right is not a coat-tail but a backpack strap.

    Then, there is radiation detector guy. Does he have a backpack? This one is tough. There is a cop behind him with a black uniform, and I cannot tell if most of the top half of the cop is eclipsed by a backpack, or if that is all cop. I'd need a better resolution copy of that image.

    But that's 6 "security" guys dressed this way, and I'd say minimum of 4 and possibly all 6 have backpacks.

    If you look at the overview image in post #45 by AlexanderLight, you'll see civilians and some cops helping the wounded, and more cops at the top right moving toward the bomb scene... but no one with khaki pants, khaki shoes, and a black jacket. They have all departed the scene.

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    Quote Posted by Referee (here)
    Shoot out with Marathon Suspect?????

    Yep the (UNCONFIRMED) report has hit the papers 'Down Under' right on que..!




    BOSTON SHOOTOUT: ONE ARRESTED, ONE ON THE RUN

    Quote LIVE UPDATES: One of the suspects involved in the Boston Marathon bombing has been arrested, The Boston Globe reports. It comes after a shoot-out between police and multiple suspects in Watertown. Earlier, a college police officer was shot dead at MIT. One suspect is still believed to be at large.
    http://www.news.com.au/world-news/no...-1226624370358

    PS - They are really getting (DESPERATE) now...

    The (24 Hr) Spin Cycle is really going into (Warp Speed) Hyper-DRIVE now...

    PSS - What the US Govt/MSM all over the (World), just can't get through their (THICK) skulls is they have been...

    BUSTED (BIG Time)..!
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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Quote Posted by Referee (here)
    Shoot out with Marathon Suspect?????

    Yep the (UNCONFIRMED) report has hit the papers 'Down Under' right on que..!




    BOSTON SHOOTOUT: ONE ARRESTED, ONE ON THE RUN

    Quote LIVE UPDATES: One of the suspects involved in the Boston Marathon bombing has been arrested, The Boston Globe reports. It comes after a shoot-out between police and multiple suspects in Watertown. Earlier, a college police officer was shot dead at MIT. One suspect is still believed to be at large.
    http://www.news.com.au/world-news/no...-1226624370358

    PS - They are really getting (DESPERATE) now...

    The (24 Hr) Spin Cycle is really going into (Warp Speed) Hyper-DRIVE now...

    PSS - What the US Govt/MSM all over the (World), just can't get through their (THICK) skulls is they have been...

    BUSTED (BIG Time)..!

    This is Outrageous! why why why, here is some more Bull stuff UNBELIEVABLE,

    FBI press conference...........

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    Here is the other suspect's Facebook page from Google's cache:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us
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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    Very interesting that you bring up the exact two things that I was going to bring up to debate the theory that Vivek posted Dennis.

    Indeed, the bulky backpacks seem very unusual for security personnel. If you are set on securing the area for bombs, you don't want incognito security people walking around that look like they might have bombs on them.
    One thing though... You say that there are many men like these spotted with those particular outfits and backpacks. I have only seen the photo's of those two man. Are you or any one else aware of other photo's of different men with backpacks and the same outfits Dennis?

    I have not studied the footage of the aftermath of the bombings, but if it is indeed true that these man with kaki trousers and black jackets are nowhere to be found, this would be a good indication of their mindset and motives to me. If you are really there to act as security, then you would behave different and not make yourself scares after the bombing.

    I thought that Vivek made some valid points though and it could very well be true imo.
    Hi Eram,

    The images with the 2 guys with the criss-cross lines (that you linked): both have backpacks.

    If you look at the first image in Vivek's post with the images, there are 3 guys. The middle one definitely has a backpack, the one on the left appears to have shoulder straps so I think he has one too. The guy on the right with coat open, it appears not, unless that black thing on the far right is not a coat-tail but a backpack strap.

    Then, there is radiation detector guy. Does he have a backpack? This one is tough. There is a cop behind him with a black uniform, and I cannot tell if most of the top half of the cop is eclipsed by a backpack, or if that is all cop. I'd need a better resolution copy of that image.

    But that's 6 "security" guys dressed this way, and I'd say minimum of 4 and possibly all 6 have backpacks.

    If you look at the overview image in post #45 by AlexanderLight, you'll see civilians and some cops helping the wounded, and more cops at the top right moving toward the bomb scene... but no one with khaki pants, khaki shoes, and a black jacket. They have all departed the scene.

    Dennis
    Hi Dennis,

    If I look at these photo's, I could be persuaded to believe that there are only 3 men figuring in those four photo's.
    Certainly, the man at the finish line, could well be the same in all photo's imo.
    Difficult to tell in the end, but I would bet my money on that.

    Any way... three is more then two and it is very weird to me indeed that they have these huge bulky backpacks if they are trying to prevent a bombing.
    If coordinating such a security event, I would go to great length, to prevent people like these to cause suspicion with huge backpacks, since you have to work with different entities (police, FBI, private security companies etc.) who are patrolling.

    The overview photo by Alexanderlight isn't conclusive to me whether they all fled the scene.
    I would be more convinced if all the film material after at the scene after the bombing paint the same picture.

    There are things to be said for both directions of reasoning and unless the story really breaks open.... there will always be room for doubt.
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...firefight?lite

    one officer dead. one suspect is killed. second suspect is on the loose. bomb blasts heard.

    regards, corson

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    Boston Bombing: Michael Savage Rips Obama, Federal Cover-up and release of ‘Saudi national’

    Boston Bombing: Michael Savage Rips Obama, Federal Cover-up and release of ‘Saudi national’
    Friday, 19 April 2013 10:07
    Posted by David Icke

    'Mainstream US talk radio host Michael Savage has openly ripped into the White House
    culture of political gamesmanship, deception and cover-ups – with an obvious focus on
    the Boston Bombing cover-up by federal authorities and complicit corporate media like
    CNN and of course, White House microphone MSNBC …'

    The main problem is he gets fixed with Obama being a 'lefty communist', when the
    'righty Neo-cons' did exactly the same. Still he sees its a total con !! His political
    views are not the main issue, his next journey imo is to realise TPTB own & fund
    Right & Left ....It was the 'hippy lefties' in the 1960's/70's that were enemies of
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    These pictures should settle some of the speculations:













    For larger resolution pictures see: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/craft...l17apr13.shtml
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Is there 2 explosions in the first one???
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee7_1366052821

    I watched some vids with the time clock in it. First one at 4.09.44 and second 4.10.12. at the same place. This one is clearest. - first vid in series
    (sorry cant post the vid itself - not yt)
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Acouple of news updates.....

    Boston police: one bombing suspect remains on run



    Published on 19 Apr 2013

    Boston public transport suspended amid manhunt

    Police update on the hunt for one of the Boston marathon bombing suspects.




    Published on 19 Apr 2013


    Armed police in Boston's Watertown area as manhunt for the marathon bombing suspect continues.

    =================================================

    Boston bombing suspects identified as Tsarnaev brothers from Russia, near Chechnya






    Published on 19 Apr 2013
    AP sources identify the surviving Boston bomber as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19. The
    man is said to be from Russia's south, not far from the Chechen Republic.The man
    reportedly lived in Turkey before arriving legally in the US about a year ago. The
    second suspect is said to be his brother - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/6u8xcy
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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Sorry, but the backpacks are very very odd for most of the security guys to have one. And they ALL disappear after the blast.


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    A few years ago, George Bush Junior came over here to Blighty to fraternize with Blair and the Queen.

    On his last day here, probably as a promise to Blair, he visited Blair's local constituency up in the north east of England. I was working on a farm about a mile from Blairs house ( he was hardly ever there, actually ).

    It was all very sorted. A massive plain black helicopter flew over our workshop at a very low altitude on the Monday or Tuesday doing what was obviously a reci' for the visit flight. On the Friday ( the big day ) another "2" big black chug-chug helicopters flew over. One was tracking the exact path the reci flight flew, the other was an outrider. They landed right outside Blair's house.

    It was my dinner break time so I and my foreman went up and sat in my van at the village crossroads to eat our sandwitches and watch the fuss as the locals lined up to watch the cars go by as Blair and Bush ( and entourage ) made their way in road vehicles to the posh pub/hotel in Sedgfield for "lunch" together.

    At that cross roads in the village there was an amazing mix of characters. The police were doing their thing, there were two rows of metal spikes across the minor road entrances to stop all traffic dead. There was a car full of oddities who actually punctured one of the tyres on the spikes and the driver made a big and suspicious fuss out of getting the tyre spanner and jack out of the back of the little car ( I think he was putting on a distraction to hide the fact that they had a super weapon in there that they wanted to be ready to drag out and use at a moments notice ).

    Two of the guys who got out of that car and had nothing to do with what the driver was up to were very fit looking guys with triangular shaped backpacks. I was drawn to the appearance of these guys and told my foreman 'they didn't fit in around here at all'. He agreed and rushed off to tell the local copper ( policeman ) that those guys were not 'right'. The copper went over to have a word with one of them and came back over to us to say, "Oh, it's all right, they're something to do with the security" etc etc...

    Damn right they were something to do with the security. I'm totally convinced that they had serious gun power and more in those neat backpacks. It would have been very uncool to walk around there toting guns in the open, so they had them hidden away in the backpacks.

    As we drove back to the farm after the convoy had passed, I saw those guys in the back of the little car looking incredibly bored but 'all eyes' everywhere around them, they didn't miss a thing.

    Basically, what I mean by telling all this, is that a backpack is the "polite" way to carry heavy gun power without looking too scary to the sleepy public.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651


    live feed going on here.
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    Mainstream media is now reporting the suspects are brothers from Chechnys



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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Let us all keep this in mind...
    The History of American Terror: Manufactured by the FBI

    Published on Apr 17, 2013

    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7276
    The Boston Marathon bombing has provoked shock, grief and outrage from around the world. After decades of conditioning, the public automatically equates such terrorism with Muslim radicals. But the evidence shows that every major terror plot on American soil in the past 10 years has been fostered, funded and equipped by one organization - the FBI.
    Let us all keep this in mind...

    turiya
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    Default Re: Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

    Let me guess: - they both will die during the chase. Case closed..

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    Exactly no chance in hell anybody is getting taken alive

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