Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[Earth Angel]

they had to work very quickly before too many people started paying attention to Alex Jones.

Also I find it disturbing that the villains of late are all so young......Young people as a group I feel are more awake than the average population and it seems we are being 'shown' that these 20 something year old kids are the most dangerous people on the planet! don't trust them.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

1609: BBC Monitoring reports that a man named Anzor, who said he was Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's father, told Russia's Interfax news agency his children were framed.
"The special services framed my children because they are believing Muslims," he was quoted as saying. "Why did they kill Tamerlan? They should have taken him alive. The younger one is now on the run; he was studying in his second year at a medical institute in the US. We were expecting him home in the holidays. Now I don't know what will happen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
I almost forgot I had a counter for you to consider about the backpacks.

Its very possible that they all were carrying backpacks with the nessesary equipment to dismantle a bomb in case one of them found one.

Also, there are pictures of them on the scene after the bomb exploded. The man holding the radiation detector is an example.

Okay, goodnight.

But bombs are not "dismantled." That only happens in the movies. Real bombs are put inside a containment vessel and explosives are used to blow up the supposed bomb. And when you see a real bomb-squad guy's outfit, you'll realize it could not fit in one of those backpacks.

Sorry, but the backpacks are very very odd for most of the security guys to have one. And they ALL disappear after the blast.

So there is a photo showing one of the (minimum 6) guys with khaki pants, khaki shoes, and black jackets after the blast. And, he's not running away from the scene. He's walking away from the scene. Walking away from the wounded.

Yes, the fact that he's holding that device makes me think he could have been a real security guy, hired for the event, and was doing his job. But when the blast went off... he certainly appears to be walking away.

Dennis

Dennis,

C'mon man. Most of the men were at the scene. At least three were there after the explosion. The rest were probably down the street trying to locate and dismantle another bomb.

The photographs are all there of these men at the scene with the backpacks, and there's at least one picture where the man is holding the radiation detector. The ones that we know had backpacks still have their backpacks after the explosion.

If they were hired for security reasons and/or to find and dismantle a bomb, why would they go over to help the wounded when all the medics are there to do that. There were civilians helping out too.

The two men standing there could have been on lookout or standby and we know there was a third man with a radiation detector.

There could have been a containment vessel somewhere on the site, but I haven't seen one in any pictures. It doesn't matter though, containment vessels are always used as a first option resort. There are other options that may have to be used in different situations. Especially in an immediate and non-remote situation involving big crowds.

Bomb dismantling equipment could have fit in their backpacks.

The backpacks could've contained a hook & line kit.



It could've been a bomb technician kit a little smaller than this (heck, I think this size of a kit could be squeezed into one of those backpacks).



Often times, hook & line kits are prepackaged and custom made for backpacks.





It didn't have to be a hook & line kit either. There are all purpose, general tool kits for backpacks used by bomb technicians.







There could have been some sort of custom kits in those backpacks. Any kind.

Why would they just hire specialized Craft operatives to wear a bunch of backpacks to confuse people? Those are costly backpack models.

[Cidersomerset]

Boston bombing manhunt: 1 suspect dead, 1 at large in Watertown

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aiXKpRFt_c

Published on 19 Apr 2013


The shooting in Watertown has been linked to Boston bombing. Police were chasing
two suspects, with one of them killed and another remaining at large. The survivng
suspect was identified as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19. The man is said to be from Russia's
south, not far from the Chechen Republic.


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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wy2TGy7rDu0

Dagestan school secretary recalls ex-pupils Tsarnaev brothers
and says the family were Kurdish.....

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'Turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=neASWCvY5LA

Published on 19 Apr 2013


Uncle of two Boston suspects urges Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to "give yourself up and ask
for forgiveness".

[jackovesk]

Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)

1609: BBC Monitoring reports that a man named Anzor, who said he was Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's father, told Russia's Interfax news agency his children were framed.
"The special services framed my children because they are believing Muslims," he was quoted as saying. "Why did they kill Tamerlan? They should have taken him alive. The younger one is now on the run; he was studying in his second year at a medical institute in the US. We were expecting him home in the holidays. Now I don't know what will happen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651

Their 'Crime Computer' or 'Plan B, C, D, etc' or What ever else they have, aint gonna get the PTW/Govt./MSM (CRIMINALS) out of this one...

(ALL) Truthseekers should (DRAW the LINE in the SAND) on this (False Flag)...

What's that Barry..?



Well (We) are (I am)...!!!!!!!!!!!!

(No Compromise Barry)... You and your (Murdering MONGREL) Masters, Minions & (TRAITORS) will (All) end up where you belong...

[SilentFeathers]

We're getting to see a bit of hardware the "civilian" police force are using or have instant access too, just seen blackhawks flying around on one news clip.....

Amazing how 1 criminal can draw so much attention and cause a whole city to basically shut down.

With the strict gun laws already in place in Massachusetts, most civilians are being told to stay locked up in their homes....I hope they have plenty of rocks and sticks handy to defend themselves if this desperate armed criminal breaks in to their home to seek shelter and a hiding place.

[soleil]

on the news in Toronto, it is showing that Boston is under police lock-down while hunting for the suspect(s) (there's only one left now)

[SilentFeathers]

The media takes the story of the moment that they can sensationalize the most with fear and stress and run with it, nothing else happening in the world at the same time matters......it's quite pathetic in my opinion.

[jagman]

Fox, Just interviewed the younger suspect friend and he said he
is a good friend, He is a wrestler & boxer and he is a really nice guy
that would never be involved in something like this! Fox then cut
the interview off. I will try and find the interview and post it.

[Hervé]

Bomb squad guy (?) in full gear...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ws6OrePRzk

... check against the left-hand side of second picture down:

Marathon clocks display: 4:11:40

Posted by witchy1 (here)
I watched some vids with the time clock in it. First one [explosion] at 4.09.44 and second 4.10.12. at the same place.

For larger resolution pictures see: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/craft...l17apr13.shtml

[jagman]

Here is a video of a school friend talking about the alleged suspect.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdkU3Halk_Q

[Earth Angel]

its funny how the years she personally knew him as a nice shy sensitive person is immediately wiped out and she finds it difficult to describe him as that after what he did......sheeple are so easily lead.

Posted by jagman (here)
Here is a video of a school friend talking about the alleged suspect.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdkU3Halk_Q

[Earth Angel]

there is a controlled explosion set for this afternoon at the suspects home......this will make sure no evidence that might prove their innocence can be found.
All of his tweets have now been given a sinister twist by those only too willing to believe what is fed to them.

Conveniently the guy who lost both legs and was earlier thought to be a vet who had lost them 2 years ago?? is also the person who woke up from surgery and immediately wrote a note to identify them.....such a neat little tidy story.....only about 5 main players in the whole thing!

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. ... He lost both legs below the knee. "He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me'," Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview. ...

While still in intensive care, Jeff Bauman gave the FBI a description of the man he saw, his brother said. Bauman’s information helped investigators narrow down whom to look for in hours of video of the attack, he said.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._may_have.html



I feel like they acted pretty damn quick and in the middle of the night in an effort to throw people off the info Alex Jones was putting out.

[crosby]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
on the news in Toronto, it is showing that Boston is under police lock-down while hunting for the suspect(s) (there's only one left now)

they have also stated that the lock down may go through the weekend, "as long as it takes", from my recollection. they are also going to do a controlled demolition of the suspects house.
regards, corson

[jackovesk]

Posted by Earth Angel (here)
its funny how the years she personally knew him as a nice shy sensitive person is immediately wiped out and she finds it difficult to describe him as that after what he did......sheeple are so easily lead.

Posted by jagman (here)
Here is a video of a school friend talking about the alleged suspect.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdkU3Halk_Q

Yeh, 'Chechen Terror' alright...

[Cidersomerset]

Another questioning the FBI's sincerity

Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand? - Ben Swann

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rjW03McCgfw

Published on 16 Apr 2013
Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand? - Ben Swann

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Your right silentfeather the US is turning into Northern Ireland from the 60'-90's


















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RUC landrover 1980's/90's.....



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OK Maybe a little over the top !..LOL...

[soleil]

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/04/19...etobicoke-home
TORONTO - The Etobicoke aunt of two men tied to the Boston Marathon bombings doesn’t want to believe her nephews are being labeled terrorists.

In an exclusive interview with the Toronto Sun Friday morning, Maret Tsarnaev said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, and his older brother Tamerlan, 26, were being framed.

“This is a huge tragedy for the family,” Tsarnaev, 45, said. “My brother’s two boys, they are growing up so fast. My first reaction is, ‘Why the hell would they do this?’ But when I go through all the material, it’s not giving anything … the whole world is now making a decision (on them) now by just seeing these pictures and not having anything else.”

The aunt said she hasn’t seen the two men for five years, but knew they were living in Cambridge. Dzhokhar had a love of math and was attending school there. As was Tamerlan, but it was unclear if he dropped out when his daughter was born, two years ago.

“These two boys, all they must have in their heads at this age is love,” she said. “I cannot believe Tamerlan is dead. This cannot be true.”

Get the latest from our Sun team in Boston:

[Hervé]

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. ... He lost both legs below the knee. "He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me'," Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview. ...

While still in intensive care, Jeff Bauman gave the FBI a description of the man he saw, his brother said. Bauman’s information helped investigators narrow down whom to look for in hours of video of the attack, he said.

All right...

... Jeff...

... here:

Guy holding his cowboy hat in his hand and who helped wheel Jeff out being nearby...

... blast...

... well ... way over there:

... is there something wrong with the painted picture in the quote above?

Makes me wonder what was told and shown to him while he was in anesthetic dream land? You know... MKultra type of conditioning of a credible witness...

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Dennis,

C'mon man. Most of the men were at the scene.

The men were not just "at the scene", two were photographed standing on the veranda where the bombs went off. Planted like trees, standing still, not sweeping through the area. But, then before the bombs went off, they left the area where the bombs were. I am not saying they "did" anything. They went where they were told, and they wore what they were told to wear, including the big, bulky backpacks. I do wonder WHO told them to go to the area where the bomb would go off. I wonder WHO told them to wear big, bulky backpacks about the same size as the ones the bomber(s) happened to be using the same day. I wonder WHO told them to leave that area before the bombs went off. (My gut/reasoning would make them contingency-patsies, not co-conspirators.)

Posted by Vivek (here)
At least three were there after the explosion.

Not at the site of the explosion - where they had been stationed.

Posted by Vivek (here)
The rest were probably down the street trying to locate and dismantle another bomb.

Bombs are not dismantled. And, why would we conclude what they were "probably" doing - especially to laud them with an accolade like that heroic scene you're describing?

By the way, when I said I believe they were "in on it", they may have been in on it as patsies to use in a contingency, rather than having knowledge of a conspiracy. By their evident intensity, and the fact that they were there as extra hired security forces in the first place (rather than just more cops, more plainclothes cops, and more FBI agents) leads me to the conclusion they knew something was likely to happen or going to happen.

Posted by Vivek (here)
The photographs are all there of these men at the scene with the backpacks, and there's at least one picture where the man is holding the radiation detector.

Are you saying these 5 or 6 guys are all still on-scene after the bombing? Two were in the bomb blast area before the blast, but I have not seen anything to indicate they were either personally hit nor anywhere to be found in the bomb blast area after the bomb blasts. Somehow, they got a call that told them to move. Is it possible it was just a security team who were moved out of the blast area by pure luck? Yes, that is possible. I'd like to question WHO moved them out of that exact area before the blasts.

Posted by Vivek (here)
The ones that we know had backpacks still have their backpacks after the explosion.

I have not concluded that these security guys planted a bomb. I suspect they did not. But, they appear to be a deliberate group of decoys with backpacks... almost as if whoever hired the security guys and told them to wear backpacks and placed them, and moved them, also knew that there would be other people with backpacks containing bombs. These "private security" (Craft) guys have "uniforms", ear "wires", and are standing and scanning the crowd. They are obvious security and they knew they were obvious security. They are not trying to hide (or are doing a piss poor job of it.) Someone "dressed" them. Someone placed them. Someone moved them. Who, and why?

Posted by Vivek (here)
If they were hired for security reasons and/or to find and dismantle a bomb, why would they go over to help the wounded when all the medics are there to do that. There were civilians helping out too.

Again, these guys are obviously NOT bomb squad, and were not there to dismantle a bomb. Bombs do not get dismantled. That is only in Hollywood, and only when the mayor of Gotham City has a bomb around his neck.

Once the bombs went off, these security guys did NOT whip off their backpacks and pull out weapons that had been concealed, so the backpacks were not to hold weapons without alarming the crowd. In such a dire situation - a bomb just exploded! then another! - if there was anything in the bulky backpacks that might have helped in any way, don't you think we'd see guys with khaki pants and khaki boots and black jackets kneeling down with their backpacks on the ground, getting out the important stuff? But what do we see in the one photo just after the blast where the 3 guys are springing into action? They are not getting into their backpacks. So, I think they were told to wear these backpacks, but were
a.) not told why,
b.) were told why, and whatever they were carrying was worthless in the situation or
c.) were told why, and were told it was to blend with the crowd

Posted by Vivek (here)
The two men standing there could have been on lookout or standby and we know there was a third man with a radiation detector.

I'm not sure what you are saying here.
Yes, the two men (and possibly the gray haired guy standing between them, when they were scanning the crowd while standing in the bomb zone) were "on lookout." They are behaving exactly as you would expect for security guys. They were very lucky they happened to leave that area before the bombs went off, or were innocently called away by their supervisor before the bombs went off, or were deliberately moved by their supervisor before the bombs went off. They were not not still right there when the bomb went off.

Posted by Vivek (here)
There could have been a containment vessel somewhere on the site, but I haven't seen one in any pictures. It doesn't matter though, containment vessels are always used as a first option resort. There are other options that may have to be used in different situations. Especially in an immediate and non-remote situation involving big crowds.

Bomb dismantling equipment could have fit in their backpacks.

Again, you keep mentioning bomb dismantling but it just is not done. Why would you risk a human life, dismantling a bomb? Even in one of those huge suits the bomb squad guys do wear when they are picking up a bomb "with a ten-foot pole" and placing it carefully into a containment vessel - a bomb concussion could do massive internal damage from a shock wave. No one was carrying bomb dismantling equipment. If the bomb squad arrived with their special truck and robotic equipment to pick up and contain the bomb, yes, they probably would have a "bomb dismantling kit" on their truck. But they would not open that kit. They contain and detonate, not dismantle. That is - from what I have seen - modern protocol.

Posted by Vivek (here)
The backpacks could've contained a hook & line kit.

The backpacks could have contained stuffed animals, a picnic blanket and basket, or stuffed with newspaper. We don't know what was in the backpacks. They never opened them to show us. They were relatively large and bulky, and whatever reason they wore them was not apparent. They were odd. Security guys do not normally have backpacks, but this group did. They didn't use them, they just wore them. And ***amazingly*** so did the bomber(s.) That is why I suspect that whoever ordered these private security guys to carry backpacks was "in on" the bombing, and was using the security guys as decoys, patsies, and/or to condition the crowd that bulky backpacks were commonplace at the marathon race viewing area.

If they contained anything that someone thought would be useful in a bombing, you'd think that those packs would have been opened and used by those benevolent security guys who appear to be following up very seriously on a bomb threat.
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Posted by Vivek (here)
Why would they just hire specialized Craft operatives to wear a bunch of backpacks to confuse people? Those are costly backpack models.

Um, I think the logic here is faulty. One, you're guessing the backpacks contained costly stuff when they may have been stuffed with newspaper for all we know, and two, if these guys were hired as decoy/patsies by "the Secret Government"/black-ops boys, why would money be a consideration? They have massive amounts of money.

They would wear whatever they were ordered to wear - and oddly, atypically for security guys, they were ordered to wear backpacks - on a day when bomber(s) were carrying bombs in backpacks! You've got no "spidey senses" tingling that there is something strange with that?

We could go back and forth and debate this for 10 years. I'm not going to. I probably would have mostly just read the stories, looked at video and still photographs, and would have come to my own conjecture/conclusions/theories as to what really happened. But, I was surprised that you seemed to kind of wrap up a completely benign scenario (with all conspiracy dismissed), and tied with a bow. I know for sure that I do not have enough information to do anything but guess my best guess (and provide a bit of background of how I formed my guess.)

I have not studied this extensively (I don't think very many people could have, yet), but I did put quite a bit of time in on studying the JFK murder and 9/11, and I have a strong sense that there is a group of unbelievably malevolent people capable of literally anything - and they have control of the US government and the alphabet agencies. To put together a scenario where this Boston thing does not involve these evil people is (to me) unimaginable and - I don't want to hurt you feelings but have to say, naive. You have painted the rosiest possible picture, where someone at the top made the mistake of not taking a bomb threat seriously enough, and everyone is now covering up for him. I'd say the possibility of this being correct is absolute zero.

I have already spent a lot more time on this that I should have, and I'm not helping the situation, so I'll abandon this and go do some other things. Hopefully I have (strongly) disagreed without being disagreeable. I attack your theory, not you - and think you're a good guy.

Dennis

[Abhaya]

Any one else think it odd that the kid was at one point with his brother during the assault that killed his older brother. And managed to escape in a car despite there being the entire Massachusetts police force at the scene. I just heard on CNN he ran over his brothers body and scattered multiple police as he flored it from the scene. How do they let him get away. Crooks in auto chases rarely escape normal police forces. Let alone cover up super police forces.. This doesn't add up for me. And not only did they have him and saw him run away in a vehicle, they lost track of him!?!? With black hawk helicopters etc etc. makes no sense.