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    Yet again, a suspicious man who is on top of a roof. very weird.


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    What makes these events so frustrating is the fact that we are so pre-conditioned already, to be distrustful of what we here in mainstream, that it in fact can warp our discernment processes. I guess we need to go by the facts, and not the chatter. The last thing we need is to be thrown into fear mode. I do feel for those families of the victims, and the victims themselves. can you imagine what must be going through their minds at this point? Crazy times we are in.

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    Yet again, a suspicious man who is on top of a roof. very weird.

    Maybe not. High positions are often useful to snipers or other guys taking a shot: photo or video.
    Guys in those positions are sometimes referred to as 'God' (all seeing eye from above).
    Photos and video from above are very useful. Extra sensitive cameras and high resolution images are needed for several purposes.
    One of them is to give the director an overview and lead the operation. But also when you need to put the blame on someone else.
    You need 'manipulated' proof.

    Contractors often do not exactly know what their role is by the way. You often find out when you're in the middle of it. The whole
    operation can even turn against you. There can be multiple parties involved. One party samples evidence of the other one etc.
    Nobody seems surprised to have so many detailed high resolution photos of the Craft operatives ... to the point where you can
    even see what they are carrying in their hands.

    The reason to involve a party of 8 can serve the purpose as mentioned above. Or when you don't want to brief the whole police
    force on a potential bombing. Or other reason ... but that's speculation. Don't get me started.

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    With all the security around and the known, horrible end result... then, my previous conclusions:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Recap of the available data:

    [...]

    In other words, they missed spotting the "unusual" of the dropping of the bomb right under their nose... not good for their matricule... since that, according to VT:

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    ... Protocol is to not have them move around, as if they do they don’t know who is new in an area, who they have been talking to, how they are acting.

    [...]

    [...]

    I suspect they were there to spot who would look suspect in dropping a bag in the area... therefore there must have been a bomb threat warning (another FBI plot?) for them to be on the look out... and they missed it! Not good publicity for the "Craft" outfit.
    ... may also miss the whole point:

    ... what IF... these guys were there to ensure that the real bombers and their bombs were not interfered with?

    That would make more sense than highly trained operatives "missing it" when so close to the scene... on the "right" side of the street and sheltered from the impact.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    ... what IF... these guys were there to ensure that the real bombers and their bombs were not interfered with?
    Hello,

    Considering this "what if" I have some questions:
    1. Why would they all (most of them) be wearing the backpacks? What purpose would the backpacks serve?

    2. Why the handheld radiation detector?

    3. Why would they all still be on the scene afterwards?
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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    [...]

    Considering this "what if" I have some questions:

    [...]
    Well, let's pick some among the many possibilities:

    1) No idea, i.e. did you count the number of backpacks that were left around on the ground or hanging on the fences? Quite a few. What were their purpose?

    2) It's assumed it's a radiation detector since it looks like one. However, same as with books... what's actually inside?

    3) Job done! However, since they seem to be on a contract job hired by the DHS (according to VT) they may just be waiting for the order to fold or awaiting further instructions since they are just hanging around not doing much as they have been doing all day.

    Your answers are as good as mine as this is the domain of speculations

    From where I stand, either they missed it or they were successful in whatever endeavor they were hired for. So far, the data fit either.

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    More to the story

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    Amzer Zo,

    I'm not speaking about the number of backpacks that could have been left anywhere. I'm speaking specifically about the backpacks the Craft personnel were wearing.

    Considering the context clues, the object in the man's hand is most likely a radiation detector. It's not about all the possibilities. Investigation requires one to narrow down the possibilities and determine what's plausible.

    You say "job done" without any evidence. Sure, there are many possibilities. What I'm concerned with are what's plausible based on what we know, and searching for reasonable variables that match what we know. The only thing that is 100% certain is the evidence we have from the photographs of the men with backpacks on the scene.

    No, your "answers" don't make the cut. Sorry. Yes, I'm speculating too. The difference is my speculation is backed by reason, logic, and links to supporting evidence. All of the other speculation around here is backed by more speculation; it doesn't matter who it's coming from or what bully pulpit they are speaking from.

    What I know isn't based off of second hand opinions from Mike Adams, Alex Jones, or Gordon Duff. If they've got some information that fits the data, fits the logic, fits the evidence -- then I'll take it seriously.

    Show me the evidence. Show me the logic. Show me the connections that are reasonable considering the aforementioned criteria. If it doesn't fit, it's nothing more than commentary and I'll take it for what it's worth.
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    I thought of starting a new thread about this however I guess I will post it here:

    Tsarnaev brothers' mother: My sons are innocent, this is a setup



    I also heard an interview yesterday morning from a guy that is an intern at the Boston Globe newspaper that has been friends with 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev for years and he said that Dzhokhar is a really nice person and he can not for one moment believe that Dzhokhar could do the things he has been accused of.

    I personally am knowing that this is much deeper and darker than we are being led to believe...


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    Strawman argument and I am spitting out the bait.

    As for giving weight to other's opinion, although I disagree with VT regarding some of their assertions, I am more inclined to consider their experience in that contractual field than anyone else: as with Operator, most of them "have been there, done that."

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    My intuition tells me they are patsies I really connected with the youngsters sense of utter helplessness and betrayal yesterday, Unless I am mistaken they are martyrs.

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    Most of us here on Avalon know and understand this event was a false flag or staged event for a specific purpose.

    We will never understand or reveal the specifics or minutia of how the event was planned and carried out.

    I would suggest we concentrate more on WHY this was done and WHAT are the foundational results of the bombing and also too the almost simultaneously event of the explosion in Texas.

    Think everybody!! Where are we being herded and maneuvered . . . how is this enabling the globalists to accomplish the underlying purpose of this?

    We as a more ‘conspiracy’ minded group is reacting in one way and the general public is reacting differently as is the global community is acting yet again differently. But, the bottom line is, it doesn’t matter because the END RESULT is the same. Observe this single event as a ‘tool’ in ‘their’ toolbox and they are using it to build something very specific . . . . what are they building or creating?

    Perhaps we should be discussing and analyzing this concept and/or idea instead of agonizing over things we will more than likely never be able to clearly reconstruct or even need to?

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Strawman argument and I am spitting out the bait.

    As for giving weight to other's opinion, although I disagree with VT regarding some of their assertions, I am more inclined to consider their experience in that contractual field than anyone else: as with Operator, most of them "have been there, done that."
    If I've misrepresented your position I apologize. I'm also inclined to consider people's opinions that have experience in a particular field. Yet, just because somebody held a position in a particular profession doesn't make them impermeable to faulty logic and unreasonable assertions (I think this coordinates with what you've just laid out).

    Some people have been propping up nonsensical contentions with the credibility of experience in a particular field. If they leap to a conclusion then I want to see all the steps they skipped over so I can understand how they got to that conclusion.

    I'm not trying to discredit their experience, but it doesn't mean they are right.
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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Alright y'all. This needs to be said.

    I'm not here to make agreements. I don't want to be told what to think or how to think. I'm not telling you all what to think. I'm not just going to accept how Alex Jones strings together the pieces. I'm not going to accept the most popular theories on GLP. I'm not going to accept the spin the MSM puts out, and I'm not going to accept what anybody here says based on how many thanks they receive.

    I'm here to dig. I'm digging. I'm here to think. I'm thinking. Any opinions I make are mine to make. I don't take other's opinions as my own, and I don't expect anybody to accept my opinions.
    I hear ya brother!

    You come from a place of logic, reason, and common sense.....a rare commodity in this day and age, keep pluggin away, I always respect your opinions and detective work.

    No need to explain'in yerself to me "

    Back to the backpacks, I'm sure (IMO) at least one of the guys has a very sophisticated bomb dismantling kit, I doubt if they all have one. These are team players and each are well trained I'm sure in several areas and I'm also guessing each has their own specialty talent/job too, therefore it would be my guess that each backpack has it's own unique inventory besides the general basics. These are actually military tactical bug out bags in my opinion, each dude probably has his own stuff according to his "job" and "position" on the team. plus the general and mandatory items each are required to carry on their person.

    I'm guessing these guys were likely contracted by homeland security as an enhanced security team, aka; a "ready for anything" team.

    I also imagine they were all within a few seconds of access to a major stash of weapons too, besides just having their side arms they had strapped under their shoulders and a spare wrapped around their ankles....
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    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I would suggest we concentrate more on WHY this was done and WHAT are the foundational results of the bombing and also too the almost simultaneously event of the explosion in Texas.

    Think everybody!! Where are we being herded and maneuvered . . . how is this enabling the globalists to accomplish the underlying purpose of this?
    OK, I'll bite.

    In order to steer public sentiment and perspective, rituals have been performed over the centuries. Mid April to May 1st is one of the primary Satanic ritual seasons, because spring represents the sign of Aries, the Spring Equinox, new beginnings, new growth, etc. The Evil one's want us to remain within their slave matrix system, and in order to insure we do not come up with any fresh ideas, they trigger the polarized negative baser instincts of the terrestrial chakras and keep us in survival mode, fear, grief and powerlessness.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...975#post663975

    The universe supports new growth and ideas, especially in spring. If we keep falling for the same lies, the same trap, the same slavery, the same fear mongering, the same ritual blood sacrifices, the same witch hunts, then we are acquiescing to these energies and they become the "trust" from which the matrix operates. If we do not rebut the presumptions, expel the myths, speak our truths, honor our sovereignty, become self sufficient, self actualized and self responsible, then we are giving our authority over by adhesion and willful consent.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...550#post662550

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    They're already talking about classifying the younger brother as an enemy combatant, therefore his 4th and other amendment rights could be null and void, also he goes to a secret military trial.

    This could also be used to justify drone strikes here in the US too...

    Lot's can be twisted from this bombing folks, the game is wide open and escalating at light speed....most guesses now may be a reality tomorrow is the way I see it.
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    My kids were framed, says Boston bombing suspects' father
    19/04/2013 Combined Report, RIR

    An Interfax correspondent has managed to talk on the phone with a man introducing himself as Anzor, the father of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who are suspected of committing the Boston Marathon bomb attack on Monday.

    "I learned about the incident from TV. My opinion is: the special services have framed my children, because they are practicing Muslims. Why did they kill Tamerlan? He was supposed to be caught alive. The younger is on the run now. He was a sophomore at a medical school in the U.S. We expected him to come home for vacation. Now I don't know what's going to happen. Tell you once again: I believe special services have framed my children," the man said.

    The brothers’ uncle has confirmed to AP that the brothers lived together near Boston and have lived in the United States since immigrating there about a decade ago.

    Apparently also resident in the US, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, the mother of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan, turns out to have a criminal record of her own. On June 13, 2012, the 45-year-old was arrested by the police in Natick, Massachusetts, and charged with larceny of women's clothing valued at $1,624, as well as two counts of malicious damage to property.

    The Tsarnaev family moved to Dagestan from Kyrgyzstan in 2001, the school spokesman told RT. Dzhokhar studied there for just one year and produced no particular impression, good or bad, on the teachers.

    “He arrived at our school in the first form and departed in the second,” Irina Bandurina, the secretary at Makhachkala’s School No.1, told RT. “They arrived from Kyrgyzstan and departed to the US. I’m telling you they lived here for a year. Not the whole year. They arrived at the school in 2001 and departed in March 2002 … There were four of them – two sisters and two brothers… It’s written here that they are from Kyrgyzstan. The Chechens.”

    Dzhokhar was born in Kyrgyzstan. The family, which also included two daughters, Bella and Amina, had the status of refugees at the time they moved to Russia.

    Vladimir Evseev, Director of the Center for Social and Political Studies, argues that terrorists’ origins don’t tell anything and terrorism is a global threat that need to be addressed.

    “Terrorism has no face and those who commit terrorist acts have no nationality,” he said.“For example, some Russian passport holders have joined the Syrian rebels. These are people without a true homeland. They earn money by killing people, and cannot change their occupation. ... [Potential] terrorists may come from elsewhere."

    Alexei Filatov, retired KGB officer and Vice-President of Russia’s elite Alpha Group Veterans’ Association assumes that the Tsarnaevs may be brainwashed.

    “One of the suspects is 19 years old, a child. The other wanted to join the U.S. Olympic boxing team. It’s clear it would have been easy to brainwash them,” he said. “I don’t see an Islamic trail. Otherwise some organization would have taken credit for it by now. I’m not sure we’ll ever know who ordered the crime.”

    “This will serve as a justification for any additional security measures the government takes, including military intervention abroad, directed at fighting radical Islam,” added Filatov.

    Yet Evseev argues that the government should be more careful when it hosts foreign citizens with different backgrounds.

    "Instead of sending troops to the Middle East to fight hostile regimes, America should focus on problems within its own borders,” he said.

    U.S. law enforcement bodies earlier identified the Boston Marathon bombing suspects as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev coming from Russia's North Caucasus.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed on Thursday night in a shootout with police, while his brother was cornered and captured alive in the manhunt a day later.

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    I thought of starting a new thread about this however I guess I will post it here:

    Tsarnaev brothers' mother: My sons are innocent, this is a setup







    There's also a video here with testimony from another friend: http://news.yahoo.com/russias-caucas...113721792.html

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    BBC the Mother of the boys says FBI have been in contact with eldest son for years because of his interest in extremist factions !!!

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    Quote Posted by sheme (here)
    BBC the Mother of the boys says FBI have been in contact with eldest son for years because of his interest in extremist factions !!!
    Now here's a smoking gun if ever there was one - the FBI was his "friend", huh? I'll bet they asked him to "help them" "keep tabs on" these extremist groups... (They might even have been steering/sponsoring those groups in the first place - but that's another tale from the crypt...)

    They set him up; asked him to carry a pack to the finish line, part of a drill, sting, etc. Same thing the CIA did to Lee Oswald (who worked for them), Clayton Ruby (ditto) and - most famously - "Tim Osman" AKA Osama Bin Laden...

    So far, the Perfect Patsy Ploy is right on track....

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