Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[Twinsel]

I don't know if this was already posted, if so, sorry for the double post.

Sandy Hook crisis actors are the same as in the Boston Marathon False Flag Hoax

source: www.olympiczion.nl

[RampartRanger]

Just got to this thread and haven't read through it yet but here's the interesting stuff I've found...

The media already justifying our invasion of Chechnya...I'm sure they'll greet us as liberators:
http://news.yahoo.com/russias-caucas...113721792.html

This guy must be lying because he's a redneck from Alibama, right!?:
http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular...8z6eSDJEA.cspx

I'm sure this was already posted:
https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hXg1uwFvfNg

[Kimberley]

Posted by Vitalux (here)

Posted by Sirius White (here)
Congratulations America.

You just watched two patsys die...and cheered for it.
.

Did both get killed? I am uncertain if just one of them were killed and the 19 yr old was captured ?

Could someone confirm that both suspects (alleged) are dead?

19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is alive and was captured last night as far as I have been told...

Second Marathon bombing suspect captured
All-day hunt brought Boston area to standstill; alleged accomplice dead
By Mark Arsenault
| Boston Globe Staff

April 20, 2013

full article here...

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...2mM/story.html

In the waning moments of daylight, police descended Friday on a shrouded boat in a Watertown backyard to capture the suspected terrorist who had eluded their enormous dragnet for a tumultuous day, ending a dark week in Boston that ­began with the bombing of the world’s most prestigious road race.
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04/19/2013 WATERTOWN, MA SWAT teams moved into position at the intersection of Nichols Avenue (cq) and Melendy Avenue (cq) in Watertown while searching for one of the two marathon bombing suspects. (Aram Boghosian for The Boston Globe)
Boston locked down after manhunt for Marathon bombers

Interactive map: Timeline of the manhunt
Interactive map: Timeline of Marathon attack suspects
Manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspects ends
Coverage of the Marathon bombings

The arrest of 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of Cambridge ended an unprecedented daylong siege of Greater Boston, after a frantic night of violence that left one MIT police officer dead, an MBTA Transit Police officer wounded, and an embattled public — rattled again by the touch of terrorism — huddled inside homes.

Tsarnaev’s elder brother and ­alleged accom­plice — 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the second suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon attack — was pronounced dead early Friday morning at Beth Israel ­Deaconess Medical Center, ­after suffering shrapnel and bullet wounds in a gunfight with police.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was wounded and taken to a hospital. In an interview late last night, Patrick said he is “hoping very deeply he survives those wounds, because I’ve got a lot of questions and I know investigators have a lot of questions for him.”

[Camilo]

My kids were framed, says Boston bombing suspects' father
19/04/2013 Combined Report, RIR

An Interfax correspondent has managed to talk on the phone with a man introducing himself as Anzor, the father of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who are suspected of committing the Boston Marathon bomb attack on Monday.

"I learned about the incident from TV. My opinion is: the special services have framed my children, because they are practicing Muslims. Why did they kill Tamerlan? He was supposed to be caught alive. The younger is on the run now. He was a sophomore at a medical school in the U.S. We expected him to come home for vacation. Now I don't know what's going to happen. Tell you once again: I believe special services have framed my children," the man said.

The brothers’ uncle has confirmed to AP that the brothers lived together near Boston and have lived in the United States since immigrating there about a decade ago.

Apparently also resident in the US, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, the mother of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan, turns out to have a criminal record of her own. On June 13, 2012, the 45-year-old was arrested by the police in Natick, Massachusetts, and charged with larceny of women's clothing valued at $1,624, as well as two counts of malicious damage to property.

The Tsarnaev family moved to Dagestan from Kyrgyzstan in 2001, the school spokesman told RT. Dzhokhar studied there for just one year and produced no particular impression, good or bad, on the teachers.

“He arrived at our school in the first form and departed in the second,” Irina Bandurina, the secretary at Makhachkala’s School No.1, told RT. “They arrived from Kyrgyzstan and departed to the US. I’m telling you they lived here for a year. Not the whole year. They arrived at the school in 2001 and departed in March 2002 … There were four of them – two sisters and two brothers… It’s written here that they are from Kyrgyzstan. The Chechens.”

Dzhokhar was born in Kyrgyzstan. The family, which also included two daughters, Bella and Amina, had the status of refugees at the time they moved to Russia.

Vladimir Evseev, Director of the Center for Social and Political Studies, argues that terrorists’ origins don’t tell anything and terrorism is a global threat that need to be addressed.

“Terrorism has no face and those who commit terrorist acts have no nationality,” he said.“For example, some Russian passport holders have joined the Syrian rebels. These are people without a true homeland. They earn money by killing people, and cannot change their occupation. ... [Potential] terrorists may come from elsewhere."

Alexei Filatov, retired KGB officer and Vice-President of Russia’s elite Alpha Group Veterans’ Association assumes that the Tsarnaevs may be brainwashed.

“One of the suspects is 19 years old, a child. The other wanted to join the U.S. Olympic boxing team. It’s clear it would have been easy to brainwash them,” he said. “I don’t see an Islamic trail. Otherwise some organization would have taken credit for it by now. I’m not sure we’ll ever know who ordered the crime.”

“This will serve as a justification for any additional security measures the government takes, including military intervention abroad, directed at fighting radical Islam,” added Filatov.

Yet Evseev argues that the government should be more careful when it hosts foreign citizens with different backgrounds.

"Instead of sending troops to the Middle East to fight hostile regimes, America should focus on problems within its own borders,” he said.

U.S. law enforcement bodies earlier identified the Boston Marathon bombing suspects as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev coming from Russia's North Caucasus.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed on Thursday night in a shootout with police, while his brother was cornered and captured alive in the manhunt a day later.

[Sirius White]

I like what the KGB agent says. They were brainwashed but not by an Islamist/Muslim group...

[Kimberley]

This has been posted however I do not remember where...

However I find this to be important to pay attention too...( I am not a fan of Glenn Beck, however I find this information of interest)

I am looking forward to what Glenn says on Monday...

Update On Saudi National Story - TheBlazeTV - The Glenn Beck Program - 2013.04.18

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=duXO38rCFGQ

Glenn Beck Gives Government Until Monday to Come Clean About Boston Bombing

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LiEpSggvZFU

I have been trying to find full shows however I have not...

[Referee]

Great Video IMO Here it is

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bjocGidSLJw

[Water33/6]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
Congratulations America.

You just watched two patsys die...and cheered for it.

Today, I realized just how barbaric, backwards, and utterly ignorant human beings are. I almost think they deserve the agenda's that are coming our way. I'm sick and tired of sticking up for humanity and getting stamped over.

At the very least, these sheep should have common sense to take them alive so that we could question them- so that we could know WHO actually PLANNED the attack and where it came from (if not hear them plead their innocence).

The media is a circus and people's brain capacity is at an all time low. I'm ashamed to be a human being today.

Seeing on the front page of every msm newspaper of stupid ppl cheering, as most were college students.... brainwashed morons... that they got the bombers. Me too I'm ashamed of this species we call humans. Not coming back to this planet in my next incarnation.

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We don't live in a civilized society...worse than the Middle Ages when they burned "witches" .... Murdering innocent ppl. Those two kids could be you or me next.

[Referee]

Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by Referee (here)
Great Video IMO Here it is

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bjocGidSLJw

The man who made this video did zero research. He's speculating, that's it.

The younger brothers backpack wasn't black. Also, the Craft man he's singled out is still wearing his backpack after the blast and he's still at the scene.

This video is a joke. No offense.

I disagree Sorry V. You do good work try this one then.....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CkWUxYT_Q5A

I trust Daboo7 like I trust you. IMO he has something here. He broke the Batman Map and He Broke the Bombing of Iran's Nuclear enrichment facility here in the States to say he hasn't done the research.......... I have a problem with that. We are all in this together. I play nice please play nice what is your take do you something I am not seeing?

[humanalien]

Beck gives obama until monday to admit that boston
bombing was an inside job.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PZFOFrkQU

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Referee (here)
I play nice please play nice what is your take do you something I am not seeing?

I'm not meaning to come off brash, I'm honestly just a little frustrated. There is so much rampant speculation going on regarding this event and the more I dig the more blatant the speculation becomes.

Referee, I don't know what other videos that YouTube user has made and I haven't watched them. I can tell you confidently that he is wrong in his assertions regarding that video in particular (what he calls evidence, it's fantasy).

Here are the pictures so you can see for yourself.

This is the backpack from the first explosion.



It looks like it was probably a backpack, and it's definitely black. The man in that video highlighted the off-white squarish piece near the center-right of the mangled bag (we can't even say for sure whether it's on the handle or not). He said that this was the same square as the one on this man's backpack in the photo below.



On the left, you can see what looks like the number eleven written in the white square, or some parallel stitching there. Yet, it's not on the square of the mangled bag.

That's not even the main, glaring inconsistency with the video though. See the right side of the photo? It's the same guy with the backpack and you can see the whitish square piece on the top of the backpack (it's either tape or it's some kind of fabric stitched on the handle). The image on the right was taken after the bomb went off.

While the mangled bag is laying near the aftermath of the explosion, this man still has his backpack.





As for the younger brother's backpack (the alleged suspect) -- it wasn't black. Not according to this image.



The man in the video claims that he's still wearing a backpack, which would have to be much darker than the one in the image above. It really looks like his elbow to me.







Okay, I've zoomed into this picture above on a large, high definition screen. What that man claims is the kid's backpack -- it's not a backpack. It's definitely his elbow, there's no doubt in my mind. I can clearly see it. These are my observations and they are objective.

I'm not going to tell you what to think or how to think. I've laid out the pictures and the thought process behind my criticisms of that man's YouTube video. I don't know about any of his other videos.

In this case, he didn't do his research and he's recklessly speculating to support whatever scenario he wants to believe in. That, or he's just ignoring the evidence that disagrees with what he wants to believe. I don't know. Whatever the case may be, he's flat out wrong here (what he calls proof, it's not).

Since he's garnered the trust of some people, I'd say his commentary in this situation is irresponsible too.

He may have made a couple of valid points between the minutes 1:00 and 2:30. After that my respect for his investigative skills plummeted -- very quickly. It made me less inclined to take anything he said seriously. Everybody has an opinion.

I hope this was helpful to you.

Thanks,

Vivek

[Snookie]

Well I sure hope he has conclusive proof, and that he doesn't get droned or something before then.

[heysoulsister]

Some more well thought out judgement would be wonderful to see whilst we all collectively try to piece together the pieces of the puzzle.
And a little less jumping the gun.
I can't see any possible way that the victims are actors, there is just no way they could have pulled that off in a open crowd like that.
BTW - all the speculation around the shredded clothes, bits of clothes missing and not seeing injuries underneath - ummm it looks to me like they were burnt/incinerated.
I don't want to post it and would rather not draw attention to it but one of the pictures that Vivek posted you can clearly see the one man's hair is badly singed.

The fact that Craft agents were there and that their motto is "Despite what your momma told you - Violence does solve problems" bothers me greatly.
What a wonderful humanitarian like motto
And those guys just stood back and did sweet f all after the explosions - odd behaviour IMO.

Eerie how empty the streets were in lock down and so easily done.
Could it be a test run for a future event, all those empty streets and buildings make for a very very convenient way to actually install some really destructive explosives.

We all know there is a bigger agenda being rolled out here - lets just work together and try to stay ahead of them.

[JohnEAngel]

the people who were said to have been cheering, what did they do? gather for a photo op? were they in a group awaiting news of the capture and when they heard of it they broke into applause? this is a snippet from a Yahoo article, "Celebratory bells rang from a church tower. Teenagers waved American flags. Drivers honked. Every time an emergency vehicle went by, people cheered loudly." somehow that just doesn't sound real to me. am i off the mark here?

[Hervé]

@witchy1:

Here is the bloody scene after a few hours... the blood has now darkened from coagulation taking place, compared to the arterial blood sprayed out of two severed legs...

For those that used to watch some CSI kind of stuff:

Looks all neat and proper not to contaminate...


Well, that same site a few hours prior:


... if there ever was a contaminated site...

... and for those wondering about bomb squad backpacks:

[Jeffrey]

Posted by JohnEAngel (here)
the people who were said to have been cheering, what did they do? gather for a photo op? were they in a group awaiting news of the capture and when they heard of it they broke into applause? this is a snippet from a Yahoo article, "Celebratory bells rang from a church tower. Teenagers waved American flags. Drivers honked. Every time an emergency vehicle went by, people cheered loudly." somehow that just doesn't sound real to me. am i off the mark here?

I think they were bleating. Nobody knows what to believe. Often times, it's more convenient to just listen to what the news tells you. They thought the police nabbed the guy who did it, so they bleated. The story hasn't finished unfolding yet. The bleats may soon turn to howls. Unfortunately, those howls may be heard as quacks.

Anyways, I hope we learn the truth and recognize it when we see it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Ah - one more thing - we have to be careful of basing conclusions on a few images uploaded to Youtube.

We know (those of us who have studied the JFK assassination, in particular) that doctoring what images the public sees was routine business, even back a half century ago now.

How trivial it would be to doctor up a few videos and upload them to Youtube as if from some random bystanders iPhone, showing ... damn near anything they wanted to show.

I would not convict any of the people that any of us has suspected of so much as a parking ticket based on these videos, if I were on the jury. The chain of custody of evidence, and the trustworthiness and competence of each person in that chain, is critical. There is no such chain for what we have been viewing above.

[Anchor]

Posted by Paul (here)
How trivial it would be to doctor up a few videos and upload them to Youtube as if from some random bystanders iPhone, showing ... damn near anything they wanted to show.

I think this is quite a likely scenario. Given that there are shills working on most common social media sites, they are probably handed them to post.

We already saw one example of an allegedly doctored news report on this thread.

[Hervé]

Might as well repost this here too:

Update on this post and this post:

Calibrating the timing of the bombs' detonations from the Boston Globe video to the marathon finish line clocks; the first explosion did occur at 4:09:44 PM, local time, but the second explosion (blast sound) occurred at 4:09:58 PM.

1) first explosion blasted at 4:09:44 PM some 20' away from where the 2 "Craft" guys were stationed:

2) 4:09:58 PM, second blast occurred further down the street from the finish line and on the same street side

3) 4:11:40 PM (marathon finish line clock above their head), the two "Craft" guys are now standing on the other side of the street beyond the finish line.They had about 2 minutes to cover that distance from their "Sweetgreen" store station, after the first blast, flowing with the crowd fleeing the scene.

High resolution picture at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatan...7633252445135/

In other words, they missed spotting the "unusual" of the dropping of the bomb right under their nose... not good for their matricule... since that, according to VT:

What our Special Ops people just can’t believe: these stand out security contractors who look like they are from ‘overseas’ just happen to be stationed 15 to 20 feet left of the first bomb…but seem to have left the position prior to it being dropped…and moved across the street which happened to be a good place. Protocol is to not have them move around, as if they do they don’t know who is new in an area, who they have been talking to, how they are acting.


Now look at them after the bombing, still in their Butch Cassidy and Sundance mode, on the phone, and not the slightest bit involved with what is going on around them other than communicating with someone.

Usually the bosses back at headquarters are watching everything live on video anyway, from a variety of cameras. You don’t really have any security if you are doing that as protocol is to even have the plain clothes guys being watched to make sure they are not chatting up some babe. Yes, they have to do that.

Here is photo one. Protocol is zone defence…people at street level with people above watching their backs so you have three pairs of eyes on one zone, plus a video camera.

I disagree with VT that they moved around prior to the bomb detonating since they had about 2 minutes to cover the distance after the first explosion and 1-1/2 minute after the second explosion.

4) 4:12:50 PM, all the "Craft" gang is around their command center SUV:

High resolution picture at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatan...7633252445135/

5) about 8 "Craft" operatives are around that SUV:

... all in "uniform"... the reason being, according to VT:

Once again, they are engaged with no one around them and seem totally relaxed and doing nothing but communicating with someone. These are DHS contractors. They dress the same so the team knows who they are, Feds, versus locals.

This is the only photo of them involved with some one, the FBI bomb squad people. I wonder if they are telling them “they almost got us!!…"


My take is that these guys weren't there for rescue or crowd control or inspection of the blast site like the fully green-geared bomb squad individual... none of that.

I suspect they were there to spot who would look suspect in dropping a bag in the area... therefore there must have been a bomb threat warning (another FBI plot?) for them to be on the look out... and they missed it! Not good publicity for the "Craft" outfit.

For larger resolution pictures see: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/craft...l17apr13.shtml

and: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04...hers-tsarnaev/

About 1 to 2 hours later (not sure which time zone this particular Fox News is operating on), command center SUV and crew truck still on the scene now mostly deserted:

Crew truck leaving after SUV

On the premise of this assumption:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
On the other hand, in terms of possibilities, it could be that there was a bomb threat warning...

... disguised as a drill to "not scare" the crowd into a stampede... you know... like the nutcase mayor of New York needing to get "his" marathon on schedule despite "Sandy"'s devastation...

"The marathon has always brought our city together and inspired us with stories of courage and determination," Mr Bloomberg and the New York Road Runners, the marathon's organizers, said in a joint statement.

... and considering the above options and those of post # 44, what boggles the mind is that these operatives "missed it" in spite of, presumably, having beforehand data on the situation for them to be hired on the job in the first place. These are "pros" and they "missed it"?

A shaped charged (designed to propel the shrapnel in a specific direction) is also the work of "pros."

Hence, are we witnessing a battle between "pros" as suspected by Lt Col. Potter or are all of them conniving for the fueling of the terror grip on the US and world population?


Update:

Not sure what kind of gun is smoking but here is the official connection between FBI and the "Craft" crew:

High resolution picture at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatan...7633252445135/

[Abhaya]

How in the world does the guy who lost his legs in that manor not bleed out?.....