Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[witchy1]

Gross Jack!
This guy has the photos unadulterated I think. You can enlarge them
http://boston.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2013/04/17/new-view-of-boston-marathon-bombings/#photo-403431


I have one of the guy with the grey hoodie putting something on the amputees leg..... trying to upload it

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Jack I fell for it very good...LOL...Tried to find some Aussie humour,
most inappropriate, but found a good one about a guy trying to divorce his wife.

Adam Hills talking about Terrorists in Edinburgh festival 2007, at the end he
sums up the British attitude well after 40 years of IRA bomb threats we
are pretty used to it. 'Don't let the b-------'s grind you down' !

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5XZ7M4pWSzw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NxpkgqBSOPY

[witchy1]

Please click on to enlarge......

[Hervé]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Gross Jack!
This guy has the photos unadulterated I think. You can enlarge them
http://boston.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2013/04/17/new-view-of-boston-marathon-bombings/#photo-403431


I have one of the guy with the grey hoodie putting something on the amputees leg..... trying to upload it

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Attachment 21222
Please click on to enlarge......

Telephoto cram distances into seemingly short ones.

The hooded guy has the lady in red jacket (who is holding onto his shoulder) between him and Jeff.

Beware of psyops artists making you see things that aren't there... (see this post <---)

[Cidersomerset]

'Tamerlan wasn't a religious fanatic' - Tsarnaevs' relative to RT

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zdvSzc8JB14

Published on 22 Apr 2013


As investigators are struggling to understand the motives behind the deadly Boston
bombing, RT spoke to a relative of the suspected attackers who stressed that the
elder of Tsarnaev brothers, Tamerlan, was not a religious fanatic. READ MORE:
http://on.rt.com/yc7vxh

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Paul (here)
That's part of the operation! They are not trying to pull off the perfect caper, unnoticed by anyone to be other than what they claim it to be. This is not like some master gang of bank robbers, intending to dig into the vaults over the weekend, disable the alarms, and steal off with the gold or money, not even to be noticed until the bank manager discovers the looted vault Monday morning.

These bastards intend for various confusing and conflicting reports to appear, mixing bits and pieces of the truth in with various lies. They want to strike fear, uncertainty, doubt, and conflict in us, and turn us one against the other. Most of my relatives have long since written me off as a lunatic conspiracy nut job, and I've written most of them off as clueless mind-numbed robots (exaggerating a bit, but not entirely.) They want to strike fear in our hearts, as those of us who see some of what is happening realize that even half-arsed botched false flag operations can be so successful, again and again and again, century after century. They want us to realize we are impotent fools, unable to do a damn thing about it, no matter how closely we attempt to investigate and how much condemning evidence we uncover.

They are psychopathic bullies working for public effect, not ultra-secret highly disciplined bank robbers working in stealth.

The resulting controversy, confusion and conflict amongst the rest of us is one of the intended results of such operations.

Once again, the few who have a clue are divided from the sheeple.

Thanks Paul. I understand and agree with this assessment. But would you go along with the idea that perhaps they 'underestimate' the sheeple, and were unprepared for the amount of resistance the 'official' story has received? In which case I still maintain that this operation was a botch-job, and far from cleanly contrived as was planned in the beginning.

That said I have 3 big unanswered questions:

1) If the bombs were fake, and victims were fake (actors) then how did the two people (a woman and a child) who purportedly lost their lives, die?

2) If they wanted to 'set-up' islamic terror by staging a false flag, why did they bother having a fake bomb with fake victims? Why didn't they just do what they're already good at and plant a real bomb, and really kill people? If we are lead to believe 9/11 was false flag, which it certainly appears to be, they had no compunction about killing 1,000s. A few dozen at a marathon finish line shouldn't have been a problem for them, and would've avoided much of this conspiracy fiasco.

Because I find it hard to buy that confusion and doubt over the official story was part of the agenda, not when they have a history of doing everything possible to hide the truth and making such mysteries impenetrable.

3) It staggers me that there isn't somebody somewhere in government, in the FBI, the DHS, the local Police force, hell - even a reputable and well known mainstream Journalist, that knows something is very fishy here but actually has a conscience, and is willing to stand up and blow the whistle. Yes there are a few Youtube vids from independent journalists, analysts, commentators etc, but in the mainstream everyone is humming the same 'official' tune, from the same 'official' hymn sheet. Are they all so afraid of committing professional suicide, or worse?

[SilentFeathers]

I personally think this whole topic and related threads got turned upside down to a large extent, not because of Vivek either, but because of the (majority rule) accepted "main" theme of what of possibly may of happened. Personally I did not agree with all of Vikek's analysis, but much of it was well laid out and made good sense through connecting certain dots and "speculation" as he himself pointed out that he WAS speculating and drawing possible conclusions base on circumstantial evidence.....and some rather damning evidence based on photo's that seemed to be quite authentic.

Now we seem to have lost another great researcher here who bases opinions and speculation mostly on logic, reason, and common sense. WTF?

Sure he got quite personal and loud through his responses and IMO he had a right too, not because he was trying to be the correct one here but because he was trying to keep the thread from spiraling into a frenzy of far out and ridiculous claims of scenario's/conclusions of what DID happen, or most likely happened......that his version (analysis/speculation) was basically null and void because it didn't fit the majority of the accepted version where many members were going with it here on Avalon.

Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but this is how I see it at the moment.

[crosby]

SilentFeathers, I agree with you. I am hoping that Vivek reconsiders because he has brought so much to this family here at Avalon. Everyone has a definitive position on this event. Nobody really knows what the truth is. But, each and everyday I see more and more information forming into a closer realm of this truth. We all need to remember that we are working together on this, and losing a valued member is not the way to go.
regards, corson

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
Thanks Paul. I understand and agree with this assessment. But would you go along with the idea that perhaps they 'underestimate' the sheeple, and were unprepared for the amount of resistance the 'official' story has received? In which case I still maintain that this operation was a botch-job, and far from cleanly contrived as was planned in the beginning.

That said I have 3 big unanswered questions:

1) If the bombs were fake, and victims were fake (actors) then how did the two people (a woman and a child) who purportedly lost their lives, die?

2) If they wanted to 'set-up' islamic terror by staging a false flag, why did they bother having a fake bomb with fake victims? Why didn't they just do what they're already good at and plant a real bomb, and really kill people? If we are lead to believe 9/11 was false flag, which it certainly appears to be, they had no compunction about killing 1,000s. A few dozen at a marathon finish line shouldn't have been a problem for them, and would've avoided much of this conspiracy fiasco.

Because I find it hard to buy that confusion and doubt over the official story was part of the agenda, not when they have a history of doing everything possible to hide the truth and making such mysteries impenetrable.

3) It staggers me that there isn't somebody somewhere in government, in the FBI, the DHS, the local Police force, hell - even a reputable and well known mainstream Journalist, that knows something is very fishy here but actually has a conscience, and is willing to stand up and blow the whistle. Yes there are a few Youtube vids from independent journalists, analysts, commentators etc, but in the mainstream everyone is humming the same 'official' tune, from the same 'official' hymn sheet. Are they all so afraid of committing professional suicide, or worse?

No doubt the operation had some loose ends and was far from cleanly contrived.

I suspect that the bombs were not entirely fake, but were designed more for the smoke and rather modest blast and noise effect than they were designed for maximum lethal effect.

I suspect that just plain old outright mass killings cause more substantive resistance amongst people, especially those really effected (friends and relatives) and those who have some limited inside knowledge (even if just after the fact), so perhaps they feel more in control if they use a mix of more modest real killings with a bunch of theatric effects and propaganda. I agree, however, that if they thought that killing a million of us was the best way to further their goals, then a million of us would soon be seriously dead. If we have any Iranians on the forum, they could probably verify this.

We are dealing here however with what is essentially a propaganda and mass indoctrination effort, not a major military assault. They are trying to cow (as in intimidate) us, not outright kill us en masse and immediately. So they reasonably enough use the tools of intimidation and propaganda for the most part, not the tools of outright military conquest. (By "us", I mean in this case Americans.)

I'm sure some with inside or particular knowledge are speaking out. However the few with a full awareness of what is going down have been vetted for decades to prove themselves "trustworthy". Multiple, not necessarily pleasant, means are used by the serious insiders to insure that none of their own steps too far out of line.

Also, imagine for a moment that you yourself had significant knowledge of what was going down, and that you wanted to "tell the world." Exactly how would you do that, and get enough people to hear you, before your message was drowned in disinformation, and you were threatened, bribed, extorted, or killed into silence? It would be difficult to say the least.

[miqeel]

Assume nothing. Question everything. Challenge the opposition. And start thinking.

People should really think about the above sentence extensively. It is v easy to get involved in a shouting match about whose truth is truer than others. The issue of Vivek leaving ties in with a previous thread.

There are a number of questions surrounding the Bombings, and a number of theories about it. In discerning them, please remember both the event and the theories are a creation of people, and as such it is a subject to misinterpretations and half-truths and a plethora of opinions and theories etc.

The forum is a great place to exchange these. Questioning person should assume nothing and question everything, especially their own assumptions about the events, and mostly refrain from subscribing to, for lack of better expression" a bandwagon. Additionally, I would say, that this event gives a great opportunity for waking people up to what is going on with the world. Not by forcing ones own interpretation of the event upon people, but by making them question the official version of the events. Question everything! Question what I wrote here as well.

And mostly, one should try to remain grounded and level.
Peace
m

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

This is a very important video. This man just interviewed the suspect´s aunt, and she confirms that the unharmed naked man filmed in that video being arrested is really her nephew, the oldest brother.

This means that he was captured alive and murdered later on.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v0-C6Z0YEGM

Raf.

[sheme]

Some one being interviewed on BBC said that they are claiming the youngster shot him self in the throat!!

[RMorgan]

Posted by sheme (here)
Some one being interviewed on BBC said that they are claiming the youngster shot him self in the throat!!

Yeah...Right. He allegedly put the barrel in his mouth and pressed the trigger, but missed somehow, ending up with just a throat injury...Ok...Whoever believes this story has a worm´s IQ.

I can´t even find the proper angle for such thing to happen; If someone intends to blow of his own brain with a gun, the barrel must be pointing towards the skull or at least towards the nape, not the throat, obviously.

How about his leg? He was shot in the leg as well...They will tell us he did it to himself as well? Come on...

What a circus...It´s hard to understand how the USA, which once was a great country, was transformed into this, and how its citizens allowed it to happen.

[Hervé]

All right, back to the data:

One can get a fair grip on the event time line by following the succession of events on the Boston Globe video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=myfiv...layer_embedded

Stabilized version: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7l447UT3rtM

The smoke from the explosion cleared from the air in about 1 minute although puffs of smokes were still rising up from the ground for about another minute.

So, here is the setting at 4:12:06 (finish line clock):

High resolution version at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatan...7633252445135/



#1, Carlos in cowboy hat already there;
#2 one of those is the Boston Globe cameraman who shot the linked videos, above.

... and now for the gory stuff (GRAPHIC!)

Blood color to anyone's taste?... Foot prints?... Lacerated pants?



OK to be carted out in a wheel chair instead of the gurney (left) that finally arrived on the scene?...



Are the blood trails to the satisfaction of anyone's critical assessment?

Series of high resolution pictures of the scene at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatan...57633252445135

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
What a circus...It´s hard to understand how the USA, which once was a great country, was transformed into this, and how its citizens allowed it to happen.

Yeah, it's quite ridiculous, if it was high noon and everyone was getting sunburned and the government told people it was really really night time, most would be scratching their heads wondering why the sun was out at night time....

Same with this event; which I'm calling Sandy Hook Phase 2

Regardless of how it was done and by whom, the actions afterwords by the gov etc fit the agenda we are all aware of.....I'm predicting that they will take the rest of this highly sophisticated sleeper cell out with drones here on US soil......

RE: this cell is so sophisticated they can't even commit suicide properly!

[crosby]

they have formally charged the 'suspected' bomber.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...0,446010.story


"BOSTON—
Federal prosecutors charged badly wounded Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in his hospital bed on Monday, but details of the charges were sealed, a U.S. court official said."

the charges were sealed???????
regards, corson

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by corson (here)
they have formally charged the 'suspected' bomber.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...0,446010.story


"BOSTON—
Federal prosecutors charged badly wounded Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in his hospital bed on Monday, but details of the charges were sealed, a U.S. court official said."

the charges were sealed???????
regards, corson

Just like the martial law test, they are now flexing the muscles of the NDAA and other Acts/legislation.

Also, recent history teaches, especially in this administration now, when they say one thing they usually do the opposite; from the article you linked;

Tsarnaev will not be treated as an enemy combatant in the legal process, White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday.

"He will not be treated as an enemy combatant," Carney told reporters at a briefing. "We will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. Under U.S. law, United States citizens cannot be tried in military commission

He basically says it three times.....they'll spin it this way but he's already been treated as an enemy combatant, firstly by his miranda rights being eliminated.

Drone Industry Invokes Boston Bombings in PR Pitch
http://cnsnews.com/blog/joe-schoffst...bings-pr-pitch

[Cidersomerset]

22 April 2013 Last updated at 18:52

Boston marathon bombing: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev chargedBreaking news
The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings has been charged with
using a weapon of mass destruction, the US Department of Justice says.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev could face the death penalty under the charges.

A White House spokesman has said Mr Tsarnaev will not be treated as an "enemy
combatant", as suggested by some Republican members of Congress.

The twin bomb attack near the finishing line of the marathon killed three people,
and injured more than 180.Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was captured on Friday evening
after a huge manhunt during which his elder brother and suspected fellow bomber,
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, died.

He has been unable to speak because of a throat wound, though he has reportedly
responded to questions in writing.In addition to federal charges, prosecutors for the
state of Massachusetts, which does not have the death penalty, could file their own.

"He will not be treated as an enemy combatant," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

"We will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22257451


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We should remember millions die everyday of all causes so its the oppression
these acts are designed to scare us with terror.


Street Shooting in Russia: Gunman kills at least 6, including 14yo girl

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mE8rcTwGEs4

Raw Footage: China Hit by MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE 20/04/2013

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cJeBmXeXrY4

Published on 20 Apr 2013


China earthquake: 156 killed and thousands injured in the earthquake of magnitude 7

[Cidersomerset]

This is encouraging !!


Back to Back C-span callers - Boston Marathon Bombing a false flag

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zq_1cyyGjb4

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...can-revolution

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The Capture of Dzokhar Tsarnaev

Hardly a 'shoot-out' more a mob shooting.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=796UFHldHM4

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...can-revolution

[RMorgan]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)



22 April 2013 Last updated at 18:52

Boston marathon bombing: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev chargedBreaking news
The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings has been charged with
using a weapon of mass destruction, the US Department of Justice says.

Really? Weapon of mass destruction? A homemade cooking pot improvised explosive device?

I´m speechless...