Bible Topics and Questions

[kreagle]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
Cheers mate for this insight. Whether the Boston bombing was a false flag or not, the fact remains that there are some very bad people operating at the apex of power in both your country and mine. God may very well have played a leading role in creating the ideal that is 'the land of the free', but in the corridors of power that God has been forgotten. Or cast away.

The Boston pressure cooker devices are a 'hint' indeed - they are a metaphor in microcosm of a rapidly worsening global situation. When will the lid blow, and the contents engulf us all?

I was watching RT news last night and caught a segment that summed up the situation perfectly. Note the juxtaposition she presents of Obama's speech with regards to bombs against civilians being 'terrorism', and his drone policy overseas. Very revealing. Watch it and applaud this woman, this independent, truth speaking journalist. I love her! She also, very bravely, exposes the cancers that infest the corporate media.

Here's the clip,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B-P1La8YU4s

Hey StarMariner,


Thanks, so much, for the comments and the video clip. I, equally, greatly admire the 'intestinal fortitude' that this young lady demonstrated with her reporting of this tragic event in Boston.

You know, I can't help but think that this is 'another' attempt, ( out of many), where our 'government' is desperately attempting to 'pin' this latest event on various oversea enemies so they can then justify their response with whatever 'war-like' measures that they deem to be necessary.

This 'mentality' is what I was referring to in my post on 'Life in the Pressure Cooker',...which caused me to loose faith in my country's ability to 'properly govern' themselves.


Once again,......thanks brother!,......your friend, brother, and servant,.....kreagle


BTW,....on my post about the 'Pressure Cooker' I had accidentally submitted it prematurely. From the point of my statement, approximately half-way through the post,....." Needless to say,....I was a very distraught, young American,"......you will see where I 'edited' the original post to fully include the entirety of my thoughts. Sorry for the error, and any inconvenience this may have caused. Love and Peace,.....kreagle

[kreagle]

Posted by kreagle (here)

Life in the 'Pressure Cooker'

It seems that this little device has 'made the news' , at the Boston Marathon, in a very negative, ( and destructive), way. What sinister minds 'some' must have to take such an otherwise useful kitchen device and totally misdirect it's usage to that which is so deadly and devilish.


With that said, I am somewhat convinced that this latest event that has presented itself before us is more than likely just another 'Divine Hint', ( out of 'many'), that has been placed before us, in an effort to fully get our attention.


Whether we fully realize it, or not, mankind has a way of 'placing themselves in the pressure cooker' simply by the way we attempt to live our lives. Naturally we begin by surrounding ourselves with structural concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors that we find will be conducive to the 'well-rounded life' that we are endeavoring to produce for ourselves and our loved ones. Once we have established these required 'ingredients', we then encase ourselves with this 'lifestyle',....hence, we have just encased ourselves in the 'pressure cooker', whether we realize it, or not. Let me further explain 'how' we have done this.


As a young man growing up, ( and even now, today), I have always been very patriotic towards the United States of America,....her concepts,...ideal-isms,....and her government of the people. I can't imagine not being afforded the opportunity, ( and extreme privilege), of being able to benefit from her provisions that many of the 'less fortunate' have only been able to 'dream' of. What a 'stroke of luck' it was for me to have been born into a country that seemingly could 'do no wrong',....'had it's act together',....and had 'God on her side'. I, like 'many' more of my fellow Americans had been 'heavily indoctrinated' with the American Dream,.....UNTIL.....one day, I finally woke up and discovered that I had 'voluntarily' placed myself in the 'pressure cooker'.


You see, the 'pressure cooker' is what you get when you surround yourself with concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors, that are not able to 'stand the test of time' and are in reality, 'faulty by design'. Most of the time we are oblivious to the fact that we have placed ourselves in this situation until we finally mature and have our own personal 'awakening'. It's only through our 'awakening' that we truly begin to sense the 'pressure' that begins to intensify to greater, ( and more profound), levels.


At this point in my life, my own personal 'pressure cooker' situation was becoming volatile and causing extreme discomfort within my soul. I had just been 'awakened' to the fact that my country, ( the dear, old, US of A ), wasn't quite so wonderful after all! As a matter-of-fact, she had been party to many 'war-like atrocities' that I was 'painfully' becoming aware of. Her 'luster' as a nation that had 'shone so brightly' in my recent past was now dulling rapidly right before my shameful eyes. Her 'governing officials' had been exposed as incompetent and unworthy of the positions they held. Needless to say,....I was a very distraught, young American. Pressure was beginning to build in my life as instability entered in.


What does a 'young man' do when he painfully becomes aware, ( and awakened), to the fact that his entire 'system', ( ie. structural concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors), are completely flawed and that they should not be 'blindly' relied upon as in the past? My 'structurally sound' lifestyle that I had tried to carefully lay out for myself and my loved ones had just been exposed as fundamentally flawed. Truly,...my life was in the 'pressure cooker'!


As indicated by my illustration of the 'Pressure Cooker' above, there are 'controls and valves' that are attached that, when deployed, will 'let some of the steam, ( pressure), escape'. The problem with this, though, is that 'most' people don't fully understand how to 'properly' deploy these 'controls and valves' within their respective lives during these realised moments of crisis. Hence, we see the 'suicide rates' escalating astronomically across this world in which we live as a result.


I really wish that I could answer for 'everyone', but I fully realize that I cannot, for this is where we reach the proverbial 'fork in the road'. From 'here' I can only 'suggest and advise' on the direction in which I, personally, took in my quest to get out of the 'pressure cooker' afforded by this life we live.


When 'I' personally found that I could no longer handle the 'pressure' of this world that was collapsing before my very eyes,....I allowed my 'heart' to desperately reach out for the 'controls and valves' of my self-induced 'pressure cooker' and found myself getting a 'firm grip on repentance' towards God!


Repentance, for me, not only turned the 'controls and valves' of my own personal 'pressure cooker',....consequently releasing the pressure that was rapidly building in my life,....IT GOT ME OUT OF THE 'PRESSURE COOKER',.....ALTOGETHER!!!


A 'simple' step of implementing 'Repentance towards God',.....followed up by water baptism in Jesus' name,.....and sealed with the infilling of God's Spirit, the Holy Ghost,....had fully delivered me from the 'pressure cooker' and had 'set me free!'

2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV)

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


And,....


Ephesians 1:12-14 (KJV)

12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

The world in which we live, ( and mankind in general), is under extreme 'pressure',....even as we speak. One would have to be completely blind to not acknowledge such. 'Pressure' is something that we 'all', universally, can relate to, for it weaves it's sinister presence into every one of our respective lives, whether we want it, or not.


Life in the 'Pressure Cooker' will do you in,.....and completely destroy your life,....unless you are 'successfully' able to get a 'firm grip' on the 'controls and valves' and to ultimately be set free from this overwhelming pressure.


'Repentance towards God' began the process of turning the 'valves and controls' for me. It's principle, ( and concept), is firmly established within the Word of God. I firmly believed it, and applied it,....and behold,....it worked for me, and will work for 'you', also!


No one needs to endure the 'Pressure Cooker',....when you can be 'set' free!


With 'great' love,......your brother, friend, and servant,.....kreagle

I urge each of you to set aside 19 1/2 minutes of your time to listen to this active Lieutenant Colonel Potter and what he has to say is unfolding here in the United States, right before our very eyes. I also ask you to 'observe' the actual 'Pressure Cooker' that he obviously feels that he has, equally, become part of, and what I have endeavored to relate to all, here. You can 'see' the pressure all over his face as he earnestly tries to inform us on what is occurring on the grand stage of our lives.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yWUB4MCLsHg

Luke 21:28 (KJV)

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

It's time to look 'Heaven-ward' my dear friends!


Your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thank you Kreagle, an excellent post. I hadn't seen the rest of it as I had posted my reply before you added the second part.

Posted by kreagle (here)
You see, the 'pressure cooker' is what you get when you surround yourself with concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors, that are not able to 'stand the test of time' and are in reality, 'faulty by design'.

I agree mate. It is abundantly clear to me (and I’m sure to many of us here at Avalon) that the world and everything in it is faulty by design. I have long maintained that if the 'powers that be' wanted a Utopia for us, we would have it. But they do not. The vast majority of us are a worker class in everything but name, but many do not realise it. Even in so-called first world countries so many are struggling to meet the financial demands imposed upon them; to pay the bills, to fuel their cars, feed their children, and even keep their homes. This is entirely the intent of the powers that be who have designed this paradigm. If we are mostly concerned with basic survival, then we do not have time to be concerned with anything else, like the important stuff! Believe me, Pharaohs, Emperors, Tyrant Kings of old, they have not gone away - the ruling elite are still in place, and slavery has not been abolished. A free, peaceful, spiritual world of equality could be with us right now! - if they wanted it. But they do not.

More in line with the topics of this thread, we as human beings are also faulty by design. This is an important thing to understand about the human condition - our flawed nature, and using the spirit of God within us to overcome them.

Posted by kreagle (here)
When 'I' personally found that I could no longer handle the 'pressure' of this world that was collapsing before my very eyes,....I allowed my 'heart' to desperately reach out for the 'controls and valves' of my self-induced 'pressure cooker' and found myself getting a 'firm grip on repentance' towards God!

Isn't that just awesome!? For consider:


John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

I've always loved this short, very simple passage. It says so much, and on so many levels. From sin to salvation, falsehood to truth, darkness to light - to God.

Your personal revelation, that the world was not what it seemed, "that the entire 'system' ( ie. structural concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors), are completely flawed" actually set you free my friend. It set you on your path to God. And you're quite right, there are so many that just can't handle the ‘realisation’ that the world paradigm is utterly flawed - is a lie - and either A) refuse therefore to believe it, and continue on blind (and in their minds, blissful) ignorance, or B), descend, plummet, spiral out of control. Sometimes as you say, resulting most tragically in suicide.

Your use of the terms 'controls and valves' is a really interesting and important metaphor.

We all do it - relieve the pressure from time to time, make ourselves feel better by letting off steam. And we welcome the opportunity when it comes. But there is a dark side to this as well, a danger, in which we should all beware. There are many people who, looking to ‘make themselves feel better’ compensate for the holes in their life - in their souls - by filling them in with unhealthy substitutes, and not with what they could otherwise find with spiritual understanding and faith. I speak of materialism, gluttony, depravity, drugs, fast-living, and ambition. Unfortunately many so-called leaders, rulers, and influential people in our world - who run the world, fall into this category, and thus perpetuate this unhealthy pattern from the top, down. Again, by design, because they want a material world.

'Ambition' is the mechanism by which these governing people are lifted to their lofty heights. It’s what propelled them to where they are. First and foremost their ambition was, and is, to elevate/enhance their own personal self, situation and ego (and bank account). Any initial ideal that they may have had to benefit the rest of humanity is swiftly forgotten as they are sucked further and further into the trap. It is said that power corrupts (absolute power corrupting absolutely). It is so true. For behold, we see the result of what has been created by this ‘faulty system’: Governments with materialists, hedonists and egomaniacs at their heart. Governments who care nothing for actual peace or prosperity (war is more profitable), and strive only to maintain the status quo, the world paradigm, driven with a hard, metallic, military/industrial heartbeat, a very unfair market economy, and their carefully crafted hierarchical pyramid of power. And God… only as a token point of interest, a control mechanism for the little people (us) to fall back on. That’s all He is to them, because, let's speak the truth here, there is not a senior, influential, political man or women in the world - exerting actual power over us from a high seat of authority - who actually, truly holds God/religion/spirituality in their hearts. *Ego/Ambition* and *God*, are as oil and water. They cannot exist together in the same space. That is the root of all our troubles.

The hierarchical pyramid of power I mentioned. Haha. So ironic. Many do not realise it, but the pyramids of ancient times are still being built for the Pharaohs. Khufu, Rameses, etc, they are all long gone but only in name. They have merely been replaced. The all-seeing eye shines still brightly at the apex, and us slaves still toil at the bottom to hold the whole thing up. The old order, the old empires, they did not perish. They endure, with a new name and in a new guise, hiding behind a veil of ‘political correctness’, which holds that we live in a free, evolved, and democratic system. We do not. Many do not see this, do not recognise this. The ancient tenets of the Roman Empire dictates: "the people anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses", and “give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt”. We get our bread, today a borderline minimum wage for a long week of labour at the base of the pyramid, and we get our diversions/circuses: Pop idol/X-Factor, the nightly trash that fills our television screens. And people are made to actually feel lucky, and forget to revolt, or to think ‘hey, there can be a better way’. They stay asleep, they forget to love, and they forget God. They are swayed into believing that the only God that matters is green, square, and made to sit snugly in their wallet.

As I said, the godless who rule over us is the root of everything that’s messed up in the world. People have been lured into a false sense of gratitude for all that they have, and that they are ‘in good hands’. They do not understand that they are an under-class, that free energy and hidden technologies could feed the hungry, relieve the sick, liberate us all from financial bondage, and completely transform this world. They do not know that we could all live in harmony, peace, and love; that innovation and fair play (not pure profit) could give us free power, free water, free everything, and that to pay our way and keep civilization going our 5 day working week need only be a 3 day week, or a 2 or a 1; that the power structures of the world could not only be transparent, but symmetrical, meaning a role in government and authority should be rotational - dealt out equally to us all to participate in, and conversely go hand in hand with occasional humble, unskilled work as well, for us all, so that all egos are kept in balance. With such a system in place across industry and the market place; with technology handling the brunt of menial tasks, our free-time would be tripled, quadrupled, or more. Perhaps 10 months of the year would be our own to pursue our personal interests, to better ourselves – to better humanity, to forge closer bonds to our fellow human beings and to clean up this planet, and perhaps most of all, to attend to spiritual studies, and to grow closer to God. This is the Utopia I speak of, and think about, and pray for. This is the Utopia that could be…

I’m sorry I’ve gone off on a tangent, and somewhat stepped onto the soap box. But in regards to the original theme, I will close with this. There is still time. The corrupt, the selfish and the violent can still be defeated. The darkness can still be driven out. And those that played a part in it can still be saved.



Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


PS. Thanks for posting the clip of Lt. Col. Potter. I had actually watched this earlier, it was on another thread (as was the clip I posted). Another brave soul indeed, who in his high position still retains a hold over his senses, and concern for humanity. (and he looks a lot like George Peppard I think, lol). Anyway, I sincerely applaud him.

[kreagle]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
Your use of the terms 'controls and valves' is a really interesting and important metaphor.

We all do it - relieve the pressure from time to time, make ourselves feel better by letting off steam. And we welcome the opportunity when it comes. But there is a dark side to this as well, a danger, in which we should all beware. There are many people who, looking to ‘make themselves feel better’ compensate for the holes in their life - in their souls - by filling them in with unhealthy substitutes, and not with what they could otherwise find with spiritual understanding and faith. I speak of materialism, gluttony, depravity, drugs, fast-living, and ambition. Unfortunately many so-called leaders, rulers, and influential people in our world - who run the world, fall into this category, and thus perpetuate this unhealthy pattern from the top, down. Again, by design, because they want a material world.

Hey Star Mariner, my dear friend,....

Thanks, so much, for your kind words and especially for your in-depth, ( and insightful), contribution to this post, ( and thread),....as ALWAYS!

Yes, indeed, the 'controls and valves' are often grossly misused, primarily as a 'temporary fix' for the afflicted's personal crisis that they are currently faced with. On the 'surface', you really can't blame them for seeking some kind of relief from the overwhelming pressure that they are under,....but the 'wisdom of God's Spirit, ( the Holy Ghost)', reveals to me that they are simply putting their crisis on the 'back burner'. Consequently they delay the inevitable, for it will, once again, rear it's ugly head in their lives somewhere down the road and will have to be dealt with, all over again, and again.

I am convinced this is why society is forced to watch this 'horror story',....over and over, again,.....in the lives of so many people as they 'endeavor' to frantically adjust these various 'controls and valves' and alleviate the enormous pressure that is currently afflicting them. It, ( seriously), is like a 're-run' that we are being forced to watch, whether we want to, or not, which often results in a 'tragic ending', ( ie. suicide, etc.).

How else are we to rationally explain where a 'highly successful businessman', ( who seemingly has 'everything' to live for),....suddenly becomes the 'news highlight of the evening' as he scales the side of a bridge and jumps to his death? How many times have we seen this 'same re-run',....over and over again,....with only a few 'minor' details changed?

The overwhelming point that I am endeavoring to make, here, is that you can only make so many 'adjustments' to your 'valves and controls' on your own personal 'Pressure Cooker' that you find yourself in. Sooner, or later, you are going to,...#1)-run out of options,....or #2)-fail to properly regulate the pressure you are currently under! Either of these will then activate that horrible 're-run' that I have been talking about!


While 'many' opt to remain in their own personal 'Pressure Cooker' existence,...periodically adjusting the 'controls and valves' the best they can,....a 'few' of us have taken the measure to 'get out of the Pressure Cooker,....ALTOGETHER, once and for all!'

The 'completion' of an Acts 2:38 experience, ( as indicated by my personal signature), will deliver it's occupant out of the 'Pressure Cooker',...just like it did for me,.....which alludes to the passage you, also, shared with us, Star Mariner.

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Free indeed, brother!,....and now I am able to totally rely upon His skillful handling of any personal pressure that may come my way, or try to infiltrate it's way into my life, or the lives of my loved ones! The benefits of a 'Holy Ghost filled life' are limitless, my dear friend! His Spirit fully recognizes any pressure that may be attempting to come my way, or is 'just around the corner' of my life, brother! The 'controls and valves' are NOW entrusted to the Hands of the One who understands the full effect of 'pressure' on our lives. There is no telling how many times He has skillfully made many 'adjustments' for me, without my knowledge, and delivered me from situations that I, otherwise, would not have been able to handle. That's the kind of God He is!!!

Psalm 23:4 (KJV)

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
I’m sorry I’ve gone off on a tangent, and somewhat stepped onto the soap box. But in regards to the original theme, I will close with this. There is still time. The corrupt, the selfish and the violent can still be defeated. The darkness can still be driven out. And those that played a part in it can still be saved.



Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Hey, brother,.....don't apologize for the 'soapbox', for I have personally enjoyed the 'sermon' and timely input, my dear friend!

While it is commendable, ( and fully expected), for you, I, and everyone else to oppose, ( and take measures against), the 'corrupt, selfish, and violent' that you refer to,....we should fully recognize that it will be at the Hands of Him, Jesus Christ, Himself, who will defeat these wicked forces, once and for all. We can 'assist', but it will be 'Him' that gains the victory and sets everything back in it's proper order!


You are 'equally' so right,....."And those that played a part in it can still be saved." 'Repentance' has no boundaries that prohibits 'anyone' from entering! The 'door' is still wide open for 'anyone' to enter, and then complete an Acts 2:38 experience, also!

Thanks, so much, my dear friend!


Your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[Chester]

I find "bibles" and "religions" to be tools of nefarious higher level controllers. In fact - All so called "holy books" that allow one to be misled into taking the metaphors literally always end up being tools in the hands of energetic collectives that desire to manipulate the vulnerable. It took me many years of hoping otherwise for me to finally surrender to this probability.

Bombs are made and exploded based on these types of books and religions.

I recommend each seek to awaken to their direct connection. No need for filters... they only distort and inhibit.

All and only my humble opinion.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The bible may well have been distorted (just check some of my own posts from previous pages!), I agree there, and I do see and fully recognise what you're saying Justoneman. But consider this: just as nefarious forces use religion, bibles, and spiritual texts as tools to control, program, incite etc, the free, the humble, and the truly spiritually inclined can use the very same tools for comfort, and wisdom, and to do good.

Along with everything else in life: it's all about how you apply what is given.

So look at the other side of this equation my friend. I am awake already, believe me. Many of my beliefs are not quite compatible with orthodoxy (ie karma, reincarnation etc), but that doesn't stop me from considering myself Christian, or from sitting down with my friend kreagle here and sharing in our collective thought (on which much aligns!) and drawing from the great fount of knowledge and wisdom which is the Bible.

[Chester]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)
The bible may well have been distorted (just check some of my own posts from previous pages!), I agree there, and I do see and fully recognise what you're saying Justoneman. But consider this: just as nefarious forces use religion, bibles, and spiritual texts as tools to control, program, incite etc, the free, the humble, and the truly spiritually inclined can use the very same tools for comfort, and wisdom, and to do good.

Along with everything else in life: it's all about how you apply what is given.

So look at the other side of this equation my friend. I am awake already, believe me. Many of my beliefs are not quite compatible with orthodoxy (ie karma, reincarnation etc), but that doesn't stop me from considering myself Christian, or from sitting down with my friend kreagle here and sharing in our collective thought (on which much aligns!) and drawing from the great fount of knowledge and wisdom which is the Bible.

And I fully agree. As some may recognize by now about my posts, I simply share my experience (past and present) as well as share my various (always changing) points of view.

Thus, having said that, I must state truthfully that being born and raised mostly in Texas, I explored the spiritual realms through the lens of Christianity, then the "new age" spinoffs where "Jesus" was central to the theme. I heavily studied A Course in Miracles with emphasis on The Manual for Teachers. I then found Christian Mysticism and Christian Gnosticism and eventually even more that can be related to Christianity.

I have also, since a young age, had a relationship with "a voice" in my head which I once thought was the "the voice of God" which pointed often and directly to Jesus, the teachings of Jesus and our spiritual nature where the highest state within physicality is called "Christ Consciousness." As some may know, I now consider this voice to be of another nature, not of actual "god"... more likely an echo or remnant of some AI program or some diminishing thought form created far in our past. I also consider that this "voice" may be directed energy where the source may be of non earth born human origin as well as may be generated by earth born human beings. I doubt you will find anyone more open minded about this and at the same time, as healthy about all this as I have now emerged to be. I am no longer so emotionally attached to this ongoing experience and thus it does not rule me as it had for essentially 50 years of my 55 year life.

I have the greatest respect for all traditions as long as we realize that (uhummmm this is just my opinion) - as long as we realize, these things are tools, or bridges to the lands of realization where we find that we are essentially the very thing we (in our past) felt separated from. One isn't "forgiven" or "redeemed" or "saved" etc as those explorations just create new traps one must find their way out of.

One awakens or one remains deluded. It is that simple. Once awakened, on sees the silliness of all these things... religion, special books written by the hands of the Divine or divinely guided chosen ones, etc. One, in fact, sees that the separation was an illusion (likely self generated) and that all the bridges back to actuality (the actual ality thus no need for a word such as reality).

So from within the matrix, when one is strong and loving in heart, these traditions and their sacred books are wonderful tools and thus "good."

Once securely anchored from without the matrix, one senses a sadness that things like this were ever needed in the first place.

Note, I am of the view that no opinion is totally, entirely invalid. No thing (which includes concepts) is 100% totally untrue. They may all lead to actual truth... if the truth seeker truly wants this actual truth and is willing to go through anything necessary to get there into the land of actual truth.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by kreagle (here)

Yes, indeed, the 'controls and valves' are often grossly misused, primarily as a 'temporary fix' for the afflicted's personal crisis that they are currently faced with. On the 'surface', you really can't blame them for seeking some kind of relief from the overwhelming pressure that they are under,....but the 'wisdom of God's Spirit, ( the Holy Ghost)', reveals to me that they are simply putting their crisis on the 'back burner'. Consequently they delay the inevitable, for it will, once again, rear it's ugly head in their lives somewhere down the road and will have to be dealt with, all over again, and again.

Thank you kreagle, your reply is on the money, AS ALWAYS!

And you have nailed it there, in that so many in this world are looking to fix / alleviate / band-aid a spiritual problem with a physical cure, which cannot be done. Like a gopher infestation, this is why these problems will resurface again and again, in one manifestation or another, if not properly treated at the source. I'm not necessarily talking about spiritual healing here, or some other means to heal the heart, or cure the spirit, I'm just talking about a bit of faith.

I mean, good Lord, perhaps the majority of the world's population do not know that they even have a god-given soul! - that they are eternal beings of tremendous value and incredible power and potential. They don't know that! And they don't know that their spirit will continue after death either. Small wonder then that there is so much misery on this backward planet.

Posted by kreagle (here)
How else are we to rationally explain where a 'highly successful businessman', ( who seemingly has 'everything' to live for),....suddenly becomes the 'news highlight of the evening' as he scales the side of a bridge and jumps to his death? How many times have we seen this 'same re-run',....over and over again,....with only a few 'minor' details changed?

That businessman example you cite is an apt one. He has spent his whole life worshipping those little green pieces of paper. Sure, one who suffers from a physical problem like nervous tension or pressure at work can take a run or visit the gym to work off this kind of 'pressure'. But I'm talking about pressure brought about from spiritual starvation. The path the businessman takes in spiritual terms leads nowhere. He has not been properly guided to believe in anything else but money, profit - even though the opportunity has been presented to him (a divine hint from above!) in his life many times. A serendipitous meeting with a holy person, or the church he passes every day on his way to work, for example. But he just walks on by, continuing to take no interest in the matters of God, in spiritual truth, or what runs this Universe etc. He doesn't care for the big picture, or even a different picture. Only his own picture. The material one. But quietly, secretly tucked away somewhere is his heart, his spirit yearns for more than what he's given it. It is desperate for more! Just like any living thing, if it is not fed it will atrophy over time, and then perish. It is one reason why he, and many like him, has driven this world to the brink of disaster, because it is administered by people who rule with cold, hard intellects, rather than their god-given spirit which is slowly wasting away inside of them. The other thing that happens is that this businessmen, and so many like him who have 'missed the point', inevitably takes a dive off that bridge.

Posted by kreagle (here)
The overwhelming point that I am endeavoring to make, here, is that you can only make so many 'adjustments' to your 'valves and controls' on your own personal 'Pressure Cooker' that you find yourself in. Sooner, or later, you are going to,...#1)-run out of options,....or #2)-fail to properly regulate the pressure you are currently under! Either of these will then activate that horrible 're-run' that I have been talking about!

The 'completion' of an Acts 2:38 experience, ( as indicated by my personal signature), will deliver it's occupant out of the 'Pressure Cooker',...just like it did for me,....


Free indeed, brother!,....and now I am able to totally rely upon His skillful handling of any personal pressure that may come my way, or try to infiltrate it's way into my life, or the lives of my loved ones! The benefits of a 'Holy Ghost filled life' are limitless, my dear friend! His Spirit fully recognizes any pressure that may be attempting to come my way, or is 'just around the corner' of my life, brother! The 'controls and valves' are NOW entrusted to the Hands of the One who understands the full effect of 'pressure' on our lives. There is no telling how many times He has skillfully made many 'adjustments' for me, without my knowledge, and delivered me from situations that I, otherwise, would not have been able to handle. That's the kind of God He is!!!

Exactly. This is exactly what happens here. I talked of this some pages back, that we are all 'conditioned' by the very nature of us 'being an eternal spirit' to seek out spiritual knowledge and draw closer to our creator. Unfortunately, our society has kept us so distracted and 'dumbed down' that many do not understand this compulsion, and continue to fill in these gaps they need to fill with material substitutes. You can adjust those valves all you want to release the steam building up under the lid, but it will be a perpetual process: as soon as steam is released at the top it will be replaced with yet more steam from below. Only a healthy dose of God and spiritual truth can make that steam subside for good!

Posted by kreagle (here)
While it is commendable, ( and fully expected), for you, I, and everyone else to oppose, ( and take measures against), the 'corrupt, selfish, and violent' that you refer to,....we should fully recognize that it will be at the Hands of Him, Jesus Christ, Himself, who will defeat these wicked forces, once and for all. We can 'assist', but it will be 'Him' that gains the victory and sets everything back in it's proper order!

I differ slightly on this aspect. Whereas 'Justice' if you will, will certainly be dealt out, in one form or another, to the wicked and selfish and corrupt etc, it won't be done on this, the Earth-side of life. Down here, it is up to us to defeat them, but not to judge them. The judgement will take place 'over there'. But with Jesus within us, and on our side, this defeat can play out, but I do not believe Jesus himself will take an active role - just like he didn't 2,000 years ago. He didn't fight the Romans, or even oppose them. He didn't lift a single finger, nor would he in his far superior capacity. His was a war of love, and of light, and of hope. Those are the tools with which we, and him, can win!

All the best mate

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I have also, since a young age, had a relationship with "a voice" in my head which I once thought was the "the voice of God" which pointed often and directly to Jesus, the teachings of Jesus and our spiritual nature where the highest state within physicality is called "Christ Consciousness." As some may know, I now consider this voice to be of another nature, not of actual "god"... more likely an echo or remnant of some AI program or some diminishing thought form created far in our past. I also consider that this "voice" may be directed energy where the source may be of non earth born human origin as well as may be generated by earth born human beings. I doubt you will find anyone more open minded about this and at the same time, as healthy about all this as I have now emerged to be. I am no longer so emtionally attached to this ongoing experience and thus it does not rule me as it had for essentially 50 years of my 55 year life.

Thanks Justoneman, interesting stuff. This voice you have heard may in fact be a relative or loved one who has passed over just giving you a friendly tap-tap on the shoulder, a spirit guide perhaps. Or maybe a fragment of your higher-self manifesting as a sub- or even super-conscious thought? As long as such voices aren't harmful or negative then it's all good i guess.

Posted by justoneman (here)
I have the greatest respect for all traditions as long as we realize that (uhummmm this is just my opinion) - as long as we realize, these things are tools, or bridges to the lands of realization where we find that we are essentially the very thing we (in our past) felt separated from.

I agree there mate. But such tools are necessary to set us on this journey. It's just unfortunate that TPTB have seen fit to allow these tools to languish in the very same state in which they were created, ie antiquated, controlling, and nowhere near as developed as they could be, and so very *pro-separation* (internationally speaking). If you see my avatar you will understand what I stand for, and that is a further bridge between the various faiths, hoping to overturn this sense of ‘separation’ in the hope that some common ground can be found.

Posted by justoneman (here)
One isn't "forgiven" or "redeemed" or "saved" etc as those explorations just create new traps one must find their way out of.

I agree that this is a trap if it is another who professes to forgive us, redeem us, or save us. There is nothing to be learned, or achieved, when another, say a minister, places a hand on our heads and declares that we are forgiven/saved etc. We gain nothing from this. Unless we feel it, know it, and acknowledge within ourselves, it is utterly artificial. I believe that we must learn to forgive ourselves, redeem ourselves, and ultimately save ourselves - to know that we are, and believe that we are, not just because someone else has said it is so. To thine own self be true!. Honesty with ourselves is the first step. This is the beginning of insight. And it is the only way to start out on the journey if we are to have any hope of completing it.

Posted by justoneman (here)
One awakens or one remains deluded. It is that simple. Once awakened, on sees the silliness of all thee things... religion, special books written by the hands of the Divine or divinely guided chosen ones, etc. One, in fact, sees that the separation was an illusion (likely self generated) and that all the bridges back to actuality (the actual ality thus no need for a word such as reality).

So from within the matrix, when one is strong and loving in heart, these traditions and their sacred books are wonderful tools and thus "good."

Once securely anchored from without the matrix, one senses a sadness that things like this were ever needed in the first place.

Yeh I do follow you to a certain extent. But if these things, these ancient texts, lead to personal revelation, and a closer union with Spirit, God, the Holy Ghost, or whatever brand of higher, loving, force you subscribe to, it is anything but silly. The only thing that is silly about it is how spiritual truth and ancient knowledge has been ignored - or worse, misapplied, as it has been for centuries by various religions (-governments!) as a means to control / program / shepherd the masses. You just need to see through all that manipulation, and concentrate on the powerful kernals of truth and wisdom buried deep down inside these teachings - and there indeed you will find a bridge that leads out of the matrix, as you say, setting you free.

All the best

[kreagle]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)

Posted by kreagle (here)
While it is commendable, ( and fully expected), for you, I, and everyone else to oppose, ( and take measures against), the 'corrupt, selfish, and violent' that you refer to,....we should fully recognize that it will be at the Hands of Him, Jesus Christ, Himself, who will defeat these wicked forces, once and for all. We can 'assist', but it will be 'Him' that gains the victory and sets everything back in it's proper order!

I differ slightly on this aspect. Whereas 'Justice' if you will, will certainly be dealt out, in one form or another, to the wicked and selfish and corrupt etc, it won't be done on this, the Earth-side of life. Down here, it is up to us to defeat them, but not to judge them. The judgement will take place 'over there'. But with Jesus within us, and on our side, this defeat can play out, but I do not believe Jesus himself will take an active role - just like he didn't 2,000 years ago. He didn't fight the Romans, or even oppose them. He didn't lift a single finger, nor would he in his far superior capacity. His was a war of love, and of light, and of hope. Those are the tools with which we, and him, can win!

Hey Star Mariner, my dear friend,....


We both are actually still on the 'same page', here, for I didn't mean to imply that final justice would be issued by our Lord Jesus on the 'Earth-side of life' now. You would need to go to the Book of Revelation and read the account of the final restitution of all things to see where I was drawing my comment, above, from.

Revelation 19:9-21 (KJV)

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

God Bless,.....your brother, friend, and servant,.....kreagle

[kreagle]

'Single' Vision,....OR.....Getting an 'Eye Full?'

We, humans, have an extremely short 'attention span' that is constantly dictating to us to 'look elsewhere'. We often find it quite difficult to pay attention to any one particular thing without having our attention diverted to other subject material that we find to be more appealing at the time. We even have many 'catch phrases' that are designed to assist us in this particular human affliction such as,......"Keep your eye on the ball!",.....or....."Pay attention to what you are doing!",....or...."Keep you eye on the prize!",....or simply to say,....."Stay focused!" Unfortunately, these many well intended phrases often wind up ineffective, ( and unheeded), as our 'eyes' still stray quite randomly from one focal point to another. Exactly,.....where, ( and when), did this human malady begin?


The answer to this is really quite simple,....for it happened in the Garden of Eden, precisely at the very moment of that 'fatal bite of disobedience' of our original ancestors, Adam and Eve. Through inheritance we have 'all' become afflicted with this 'wandering eye syndrome', for our 'carnal, fleshly nature' is constantly on the prowl looking for points of interest that individually appeals to our lustful, carnal nature.


Whether we want to admit it, or not,... we all find ourselves travelling down the 'highway of life' and suddenly coming upon the proverbial 'fork in the road' where we have a very important decision to make on which roadway we will turn down. Will we take the 'well traversed boulevard named Getting an Eye-Full',...or...do we take the 'sparsely used trail named Single Vision?'


God's Word, ( our own personal GPS system), has already carefully 'mapped out' the proper roadway for His children to use, ( and implement), here.

Matthew 6:22 (KJV)

22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.


And,....


Luke 11:34 (KJV)

34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

Through Peter, we should all be able to see what the net results are to those who will keep their eye 'single', ( ie. 'fixed' upon God,...'fixed' upon His Will,.....'fixed' upon His Word, etc.) We also vividly see what happens when we allow ourselves to get an 'eye-full' of distractions as we have taken our 'eyes' off of Him and focus them elsewhere!

Matthew 14:22-31 (KJV)

22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away.

23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.

24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.

25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.

26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.

28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.

30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.

31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

The many diversions of life that we have today are constantly vying for our attention, whether they be....sexual,...monetary,...or other 'personal interests', and they will easily consume you if you don't take proper evasive measures against them. As with the 'boisterous waves' that Peter faced, I'm afraid there are many today who foolishly think they are 'good enough swimmers' to paddle their way through these 'raging seas of diversions'. Through satanic deception, this type of individual feels like they can 'periodically, ( or occasionally)', get an 'eye-full' of these diversions, ( sexual, monetary, or 'personal interests'), even though they 'know' it's not in their best interest and then 'paddle their way out' of these diversions when they want to.


This type of satanic deception, once believed, will get you 'spiritually drowned',....pure, plain, and simple, my dear friend! I don't care how 'skilled' of a swimmer you 'think' you are,....you'll never be able to spiritually survive the 'boisterous raging seas of diversions' that this world has to offer! You'll wind up on the 'bottom of this ocean', one day, wondering why you didn't reach out for His 'saving' Hand, like Peter did!


A 'Spirit-filled' life, as defined by the final directive of Peter's message in Acts 2:38, will begin the process of enabling you to keep your eye 'single',....divinely focused upon Him and His Word. Without the Holy Ghost experience, resident in your life, you're going to find yourself 'wandering', ( and 'wondering'), all over the place.


With 'all' my love,.....your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[kreagle]

Posted by kreagle (here)

Life in the 'Pressure Cooker'

What does a 'young man' do when he painfully becomes aware, ( and awakened), to the fact that his entire 'system', ( ie. structural concepts, ideal-isms, and governing factors), are completely flawed and that they should not be 'blindly' relied upon as in the past? My 'structurally sound' lifestyle that I had tried to carefully lay out for myself and my loved ones had just been exposed as fundamentally flawed. Truly,...my life was in the 'pressure cooker'!


As indicated by my illustration of the 'Pressure Cooker' above, there are 'controls and valves' that are attached that, when deployed, will 'let some of the steam, ( pressure), escape'. The problem with this, though, is that 'most' people don't fully understand how to 'properly' deploy these 'controls and valves' within their respective lives during these realised moments of crisis. Hence, we see the 'suicide rates' escalating astronomically across this world in which we live as a result.

This article on the DrudgeReport especially caught my attention which is currently giving us a 'reading' on the mental state of an alarming number of Americans, and World-wide, too. It's titled,....."Americans 'Snapping' By The Millions" by David Kupelian. The 'pressure' just seems to be building, and building.


http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/americans...-the-millions/

[kreagle]

What does 'Repentance' mean to you?

How,....precisely,.....would you define 'repentance' as you understand it, and it's role in Christianity? Please take a moment to seriously consider this topic and express your views/concerns towards this as you see it.

Psalm 51:1-12 (KJV)

51 Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.

2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.

3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.

4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.

5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

8 Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice.

9 Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities.

10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.

11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

Your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[Akasha]

Repentance in the context of Psalms 51 was most likely a desperate bid to remove the guilt and anguish David was now feeling as a result of having sex with someone else's wife and then having them bumped off through strategic placement in battle where they were sure to be killed. I think his words of repentance were as selfishly motivated as the deeds which inspired them.

[kreagle]

Posted by Akasha (here)
Repentance in the context of Psalms 51 was most likely a desperate bid to remove the guilt and anguish David was now feeling as a result of having sex with someone else's wife and then having them bumped off through strategic placement in battle where they were sure to be killed. I think his words of repentance were as selfishly motivated as the deeds which inspired them.

Hey Akasha,


Brother, you are correct that the text I provided out of Psalms 51:1-12 deals with David's specific sin with Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite. Indeed, the act that David committed was hideous, and self-centered , but I think it would be a great mistake to 'judge' David, ( or 'anyone' else), for his actions, here. We need to remember that David, and Bathsheba, hardly got off 'scott-free' for this act of adultery, for they lost the child of this sexual encounter, as foretold by the prophet Samuel. Another extremely important point that you might not be considering is that when the Lord first selected David, as a lad, from among his brothers, at his father's, ( Jesse), home, the Lord had to remind Samuel, ( the prophet), that He was not making His selection based upon 'outward appearances',......but was looking on the 'heart' of man, ( David), in making this divine selection. With this line of thought,....you can rest assured that the Lord 'still' had the full ability to 'see David's heart', ( ie. 'post adulterous affair'), and clearly see whether David had genuinely repented, or not! David only had to convince God of his repentance,....not you, or I,.....and he evidently did exactly that, to God's satisfaction.

1 Samuel 16:6-7 (KJV)

6 And it came to pass, when they were come, that he looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the Lord's anointed is before him.

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.

I will admit, here, that I have generated this question concerning 'repentance' primarily because I'm really convinced that a great deal of individuals have a 'religiously bruised version', ( or concept), of what true 'Biblical repentance' actually is and was always intended to be.


With 'this' in mind,......perhaps 'everyone' will take an even deeper look at this 'topic' of 'repentance' for further discussion.


Your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle

[Akasha]

Priceless! The guy was a murderer but that's ok because god chose him lol.

[danimyl]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I find "bibles" and "religions" to be tools of nefarious higher level controllers. In fact - All so called "holy books" that allow one to be misled into taking the metaphors literally always end up being tools in the hands of energetic collectives that desire to manipulate the vulnerable. It took me many years of hoping otherwise for me to finally surrender to this probability.

Bombs are made and exploded based on these types of books and religions.

I recommend each seek to awaken to their direct connection. No need for filters... they only distort and inhibit.

All and only my humble opinion.

The New Message is sent at this time to directly address these problems and offer the path of direct connection through a program of preparation that is clear and easy to follow. It does away with the parables of ancient Messages. It speaks not to nations or leaders, but to individuals. It is given the way all God's Messages have been given by the Angelic Presence to a Messenger who is sent and prepared over decades. But now we have a literate world that can access it directly from a recording instead of waiting for Messengers to emerge from their caves of solitary Revelation. You can hear some of it in this video or click my signature for more.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YHcKhLY3d8w

[kreagle]

Posted by danimyl (here)
The New Message is sent at this time to directly address these problems and offer the path of direct connection through a program of preparation that is clear and easy to follow. It does away with the parables of ancient Messages. It speaks not to nations or leaders, but to individuals. It is given the way all God's Messages have been given by the Angelic Presence to a Messenger who is sent and prepared over decades. But now we have a literate world that can access it directly from a recording instead of waiting for Messengers to emerge from their caves of solitary Revelation.

As I have consistently stated,.....'everyone' has the God-given right to believe whatever belief system they choose to adhere to, but I have 'personally' found no fault, ( nor error), with the 'original,...Old Message' as delivered in the Bible. Furthermore, we are specifically warned,....very vehemently, by the Apostle Paul, to cleave to the 'original' Gospel Message, as taught by the Apostles, and to discard, ( and reject), any 'other' message that might come along through men, ( or angels), that preached a 'different' message.

Galatians 1:6-12 (KJV)

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Just a 'friendly, ( and loving)', reminder that one should be mindful of what the Scripture really says regarding the 'belief system' that we decide to embark upon.

A 'few' choose to do so,....but 'many' do not,.....so they turn to alternatives.


As 'always',....your friend, brother, and servant,.....kreagle

[AwakeInADream]

Posted by Akasha (here)
Priceless! The guy was a murderer but that's ok because god chose him lol.

Yep! Forgiveness is priceless! Earned only through true repentance/self realization Maybe God chose....God?

[kreagle]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)

Posted by Akasha (here)
Priceless! The guy was a murderer but that's ok because god chose him lol.

Yep! Forgiveness is priceless! Earned only through true repentance/self realization Maybe God chose....God?

Hey AwakeInADream,....thank you, dear brother!


Thus far, you are the 'only one' who has remotely responded within the realm of the simple question I asked concerning 'repentance'. I genuinely have a great concern that 'many' individuals do not have a proper understanding of repentance, from a pure Biblical perspective, and have been disillusioned, ( and badly bruised), by various dogmatic teachings that border between ignorance and being downright satanically inspired. I still hope to get 'others' views on this so that we might be able to address this,....as you say,....."priceless" divine commodity, ( called forgiveness), that is 'only derived through repentance'.


What is 'Biblical repentance'?,.....how should it be taught to mankind?,.....how 'has' it been taught to mankind?,....what does it accomplish?,.... is it vital?, etc?


What say 'you',.....one, and all?



Your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle