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    Hi:

    I am going to cut to the chase a little here, and address an issue that so many are fearful of, which is how the world’s poor are going to react to FE. The Level 5s react to FE as if it would be the worst thing ever:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

    Are they reacting to memories of Atlantis? Do they think that China would conquer the world with FE, do they fear the world’s poor nations invading the rich ones with FE, do they fear that FE will mean that everybody is going to strip-mine the planet so they can “get theirs,” do they fear that everybody will have an FE weapon on their hip and it will be one big shootout? Or, do they fear that they will lose their carefully carved niche in a world of scarcity? My experience has been that the last one is really what people have feared, the part where it is all about, “What’s in it for me?” And because I live in the West, it has always been relatively comfortable Westerners fearing that the world’s poor cannot handle abundance. IMO, that is elitist thinking of the worst kind, and has the charm of projecting scarcity onto a situation of abundance. That is partly why I do not take many Level 5 fears seriously, because they are trapped in scarcity. With FE, it would quickly become evident that the Level 5 fears really are knee-jerk reactions, not carefully thought out ones, and it is time to explore part of that territory.

    For starters, how did the world’s poor become poor? It is tempting to say that they have always been poor, that all pre-industrial civilizations have been primarily poor, and so this is just more of the same, but that is not really accurate. Virtually none of the world’s poor lived in some sort of isolated vacuum where their poverty is entirely of their making. The case can be made for a few places, such as the New Guinea Highlands, but it is only a few places. Europe conquered the entire planet, and their reign has not been benevolent. Basically, every economy in the world was impacted by the rise of Europe. Where the indigenous peoples were living on temperate lands that the Europeans found attractive, they were slaughtered and/or dispossessed, and European-style civilizations were erected on their graves. North and South America, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are “settler” states, where the Europeans came and stayed, wiping out or pushing out the indigenous people. What we see happening in Israel today is a modern variation of that theme, with its “reservations” for the dispossessed Palestinians, while the invaders get all the good land and resources, etc. All settler states have their mythology that paints a picture of the “settlers” carving their nations out of some kind of unpeopled wilderness. It is a big bunch of conscience-soothing lies, and the cultural managers are only too happy to churn out the myths, and the invaders are only too happy to consume them. So, all settler states have the dispossessed eking out existences on the margins, if any are left at all. Places such as Tasmania were completely shorn of their indigenous populations, as the Bahamas also were, and many islands in the Caribbean were:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#note

    In the Old World, the peoples there were not susceptible to the diseases that Europeans brought with them, and/or they had exploitable sedentary populations that could be enslaved, and so were brought to heel and enslaved, to one degree or another. India was the classic case. Spain would have done something similar to the natives of Mesoamerica and the Andes, but they killed them off due to overwork, disease, and starvation after they conquered them. And the few survivors were all enslaved into plantation and mining activities. The Portuguese did the same thing to the Amazonian natives, and after a couple of generations had killed off their slave supply, then boatloads of captured Africans came over to work the sugar plantations, so Europe could get their cheap highs. When the English began to invade North America, they began to dispossess the natives of New England, as they began to reproduce English-style colonies in the rich lands. In Virginia, once they exterminated the Indians, they brought in those captured Africans to grow another addictive substance, tobacco:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#english

    and the contrast between the land-grabbing New Englanders, reproducing the English political-economy, and the Virginians, becoming slave-owning plantation aristocrats, is what led to the Civil War two more than two centuries later.

    In places such as India, it was de-industrialized to turn all the people into plantation slaves:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post660765

    The point of the above is that the indigenous economies were all turned upside down by the Europeans, if the indigenous peoples even survived. The dynamics of that era are still very much with us, and are part and parcel of the problem with the world’s poor today. Their economic development was purposefully prevented by Europe, and with what we see in places such as Libya and Iraq today, it is still happening and worse:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post661499

    Libya and Iraq had the highest standard of living in their regions (built on oil exports) before the Westerners began to work their magic. Both nations are complete wrecks, with Libya going down the tubes amazingly quickly after NATO’s “liberation.” Iraq will not recover in a hundred years from what we have done to them, as we have turned the nation into a big oil pump, but if we can successfully prevent them from getting back on the industrialization curve, they will be in no position to begin to dictate terms in the extraction of all of their oil. As was the plan from the beginning, Iraq’s oil has been effectively privatized:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

    and the Iraqi people are not going to benefit much, although the Kurds may seem to be getting a “good deal” right now, but we have sold them out before, and won’t hesitate to do it again when they become expendable:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kurds

    In short, no peoples on Earth have been free of the malign economic influence of Europe and its descendants. Even today, virtually all of the world’s poorest nations export food to the USA, and here is where understanding some of the political-economic dynamics will be helpful, and can help people see where the advent of FE does not have to be the fear-orgy that Level 5s engage in. The single greatest thing that the West can do for the world’s poor is to leave them alone, but our hooks are in deeply, as we milk the world’s nations to the benefit of the global capital class. The population explosion that we have seen in the so-called Third World had several interacting dynamics. One is the relationship between the cities and countryside. The hinterland has always been subjugated by the city, as the city is where the concentrated wealth and power was. Because of the conquest and subjugation by Europe, the rich overlords got all the best land and engaged in plantation work. The indigenous people were enslaved, to one degree or another, but even with the “freedom” of liberation, the plantation interests still had the good land, while the “freed” peasants had to try farming the hillsides. When nations such as Guatemala tried to nationalize the plantation lands of the big multinationals, we overthrew their governments and installed dictatorships:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#guatemala

    All across the so-called Third World, elites, usually installed or supported due to their role in the European-dominated economies, or the descendants of the white invaders themselves, have all the good land, which is used for raising crops for export to the West. The peasants, like peasants everywhere, like big families, as it gives them ready-made ranch hands and pension plans, but the lands cannot support that situation, so the youth are driven/attracted to move to cities for a better life. Western medicine, primarily sanitation and antibiotics, along with a more consistent food supply (that is coming soon in this post) has drastically-reduced the infant mortality rate, and one of the reasons for large families was high infant mortality. So Western medicine and agriculture began the explosion:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

    and the West’s mechanized farming is actually feeding those Third World cities. About 60% of the Third World’s caloric intake is from grain. The world’s poor nations have all become dependent on grain from the West. In brief, the dynamic has been turning the subject nations into plantations to serve the West, and all the good land was put into production for export to the Western economies – cotton, tea, sugar, coffee, cocoa, bananas, etc., while the peasants worked the marginal land, and their offspring migrated to the cities, where they are being fed by grain imports from the “breadbasket” nations of the USA, Canada, Argentina, Australia, and Europe, at least while the fossil fuels, water, and soils last. In 1985, grain imports provided nearly half of the calories of the Third World’s urban population (see Bairoch’s Cities and Economic Development, p. 463), and the numbers have only gotten worse since then, with all of Asia quickly becoming dependent on grain imports:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#grain

    It took about a century after death rates went down in the West, after improvements in food security and sanitation in the industrial era, for the birth rates to decline. The Third World is already having its demographic transition, with the global birth rate dropping by more than half in my lifetime:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertili...haracteristics

    The worst off is Africa, mainly because it has been suffering under slavery, conquest, genocide, and exploitation for about a thousand years, and it continues, with the overthrow of Gaddafi the latest attack by the West, to keep Africa in a state of slavery:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...afi#post659038

    The greatest first step toward helping the world’s poor is for the West to stop screwing them over at every opportunity. But that would only be step one. If enough of us can grow up and help make FE happen, the first thing we should do is begin to repair the damage of five hundred years of the white man’s evil reign. The biggest killers of children in the Third World are polluted air and water, and starvation. With FE, those all become the easiest problems to solve, but it would only be the beginning:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#short

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    and it is not about the West becoming the world’s hero, paternalistically dictating a new economy to humanity, but providing true assistance. Keeping FE from becoming weaponized would not be a big deal, technically. Again, weaponizing FE is not Godzilla’s fear, or strip-mining the planet, but humanity becoming truly free. One asteroid, easily mined with FE and antigravity and related technologies, and there will never be mining on Earth again, and even if there was, it could be done with about zero environmental impact with FE.

    The Third World would have a steep learning curve, but that would be the fun part. Joe Average in the West will also have his life turned upside down, but in a good way. The people who only see another population explosion, or strip mining the planet, or a big FE war, are projecting the dynamics of scarcity onto a situation of abundance. I don’t know how to demonstrate how inaccurate such fears are, but let me try to think of an example…

    OK, I’ll go back to my first interview with Scott.

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...-paradigm.html

    Near the end of it, an Avalon member gave an example of being trapped in the assumptions of the world they lived in. A poll of New Yorkers at the turn of the twentieth century were asked what the big problems in New York would be in a hundred years, and the number one answer was what the mountains of horse manure would pose. That is a pretty good example of how people project the assumptions of their current world onto the future. The move from scarcity to abundance would dwarf those kinds of mis-projections into the future.

    Could we blow up Earth with FE? Maybe if we are really stupider, collectively, than a band of chimpanzees, but we have had nuclear weapons for longer than I have been alive, and we are all still here. Most of the stupidity that I see in my fellow Americans is a learned and even desired stupidity, as they protect their niches of hell:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/07/...g-the-obvious/

    And most of that mindlessness would vanish when there was no more “need” for it.

    I am not saying that there is no potential downside to FE, but the upside is Heaven on Earth. Isn’t it at least worth thinking about? The human journey is heading toward the brick wall at about Mach 1 right now, and the so-called environmentalists are calling for a level of sentience that is far beyond the one needed for a successful FE transition. Shared austerity will never work, as Bucky observed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#austerity

    Who wants to sign up for Heinberg’s self-extermination program?

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

    In light of FE technology, which Heinberg is well aware of but avoids like the plague, as the environmentalists do, what a diseased mindset they have, and totally unworkable. Again, that attitude seems to hail from the self-flagellating Calvinist mindset:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ist#post646730

    but it is just another variation of an addiction to scarcity, IMO:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

    As I have stated from the beginning, I am looking for those needles who can lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can just imagine abundance. The more accomplished will learn to sing the song, too, and it will reach some other needles who have been yearning to hear that song for their entire lives.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I’ll start with another note from the Empire. I saw this yesterday:

    http://news.yahoo.com/ieds-come-home...135929898.html

    On one hand, it was refreshing to see veterans getting angry at how the media circus cranks up for events such as the Boston Marathon bombing. It was also interesting to see their fear that if a foreign national did it, then the politicians would use it as an excuse to invade another nation. But the focus was imperial, in that it was almost all about American soldier casualties, not casualties of the people in the nations we invade on a whim. I guess the “good news” is that it looks like white guys did it, so we won’t be invading another nation over this. And how crazy does that sound? Invading a nation because somebody committed a crime? But so it is, in the Empire, where crimes by individuals, both real and imagined, become grounds for invasions and genocide. We have been doing it for a long time:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#affront

    Back to the industrialization curve. Although Britain had the 50-80 year lead over all other nations after it began to industrialize, when the USA won its independence, it began to catch up fast. Britain, like all imperial powers, forbade many industries in its colonies, to benefit the imperial heartland, and it was little different for its American colonies. In 1750, Britain was about 2.5 times more industrialized per capita than the American colonies, but it was about the same level as France. By 1800, Britain gained a big lead over France, which was stagnant, but the USA caught up to France by then. By 1830, the USA had passed up France, and only trailed Britain, at a little over half of Britain’s per capita industrialization. But Britain’s industrialization began to really gallop along in the mid-1800s, and by 1860, although the USA had a 50% increase in industrialization since 1830, Britain became three times as industrialized by then.

    Then the USA had its first industrial war, its Civil War. Warfare has always been a great engine of innovation, and the Civil War saw the North grind down the South in a war of attrition, with its industrial capacity far greater than the South's. The Civil War was really little different than the American Revolution or other colonial revolts, where local elites rebelled, seeking to establish themselves as the new masters. Monarchical France and Britain were sympathetic to South, with its aristocratic leaders, although slavery by that time was very anachronistic. The North was the fast-rising industrial rival of the European powers, and those powers would have been happy to see the USA destroy itself. But the North prevailed. Russia supported the North, not at all out of idealistic motives. The imperial upstart Russians had recently concluded the Crimean War with France and Britain, as they fought over the declining Ottoman Empire, in the first industrialized war, with railroads, steamships, and the telegraph seeing their first use in warfare:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_war

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o...og#First_phase

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ean#post624099

    as well as industrial military tactics such as trench warfare. Modern nursing also came from that war:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Nightingale

    Soon after the Civil War was concluded, the French and Germans had a merry little war:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War

    It became evident that warfare between industrialized nations increased the levels of carnage by orders of magnitude. The Russians and Germans were coming late to the imperial table, and conflicts with France and Britain were inevitable, as they already “owned” so much of the world. The USA really began its steep ascent of industrialization after the Civil War. Between 1877 and 1900 was the USA’s Gilded Age:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_age

    and the industrial empires of the Rockefellers, Carnegies, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and other robber barons were built in those days. Europe had its own “golden age” known as the Belle Époque:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_%C3%89poque

    which lasted from the Franco-Prussian War until World War I. In 1890, the last Indian resistance ended with the massacre at Wounded Knee:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wounded

    and the American frontier was officially gone. Those days are the heady days of science, when scientists believed that they had it all figured out, or had all the tools to find out:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#heisenberg

    Science became the new religion in the 1800s. Just this morning, I was reading Hawking once again campaigning against the idea of a Creator:

    http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/04/18/S...2081366294355/

    For a man confined to a wheelchair for most of his life, I would have thought that he could have maybe even desired to have an out-of-body experience, and then his materialist conceits would be shaken to their foundation. But like his buddy Carl Sagan (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#skeptic ), it looks like he will embrace his religion to the end, while denying that it is a religion.

    How can such “smart” people miss the boat so badly? At least Hawking realizes that humanity is quickly destroying its nest on Earth, but his “let's flee” “solution” hails right from Godzilla’s playbook. What diseased ways of thinking. Hawking holds atheistic court at Cal Tech, while Brian O was temporarily erased there:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#erased

    I see those kinds of situations almost daily, and because I am so close to them, I sometimes have to work to stand back and appreciate the mind-boggling irony of them.

    As the USA galloped along, putting down those rebel upstarts with extreme prejudice, building a railway all the way across the continent:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_T...ental_Railroad

    and stealing the Panama Canal Zone a generation later:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#panama

    it began to look like a proper empire. During that proto-imperial heyday, with the rise of science and industry, along came Nikola Tesla, who is responsible for the electrification of the USA, although when he began to make FE noise, Morgan pulled the rug out from underneath him:


    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#tesla

    However, for all of the technology suppression by the robber barons, which became a science in the twentieth century, the introduction of electricity was the innovation that made it possible to decouple the place where energy was generated from where it was used. No longer did the mill need to be at the waterwheel, nor did the factory have to be connected to the steam engine, but power plants could be located in the hinterland, and it could “pipe” its power to the city and factory. This was a huge boon, and was highly instrumental in creating today’s industrial civilization.

    But it was invented in the era of industrial capitalism, with its monopolies. Power had to be centralized, literally. Tesla’s idea of each person producing their own energy was the robber baron’s worst nightmare. Godzilla’s antics are only a maturation of those early robber baron activities, and, really, is only a successor to elite machinations that go back to the dawn of civilization.

    American industrialization per capita more than tripled between 1860 and 1900, and the USA overtook Britain as the world’s industrial powerhouse by World War I. But the USA really had not fought its industrial rivals much, and its military was nothing compared to Europe's, which had been fighting each other for so long. Slaughtering Indians and stealing half of Mexico were not exactly great military feats. In 1900, Russia, France, Britain, and Germany had combined military personnel of three million men, while the USA had less than 100K (see Kennedy’s The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers, p. 203). In 1914, the British Navy was three times the size of the USA’s. Britain’s imperial decline began with World War I (although its industrial output had been relatively stagnant for a generation), to lose its empire after World War II, as the USA took imperial center stage. The financial capital of the world became Wall Street. At the end of World War II, the USA’s industrial capacity was as much as the rest of the world put together. Humanity had never seen anything like it, and the post-war era was dominated by the USA, as it rode history’s biggest economic bubble, which led to my relatively idyllic childhood.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    ... FE, but the upside is Heaven on Earth. Isn’t it at least worth thinking about? ...

    Best,

    Wade
    It's not only worth thinking about, it's worth deeply pondering about, visualizing about, creating the reality in thought form, ... and singing about.

    Dennis
    p.s. You are one hell of a history professor, but then, how many history professors have integrity and speak truth?


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    Hi Dennis:

    Professional history professors and I have had an interesting relationship over the years. My early writings were not so much a history lesson as a history anti-lesson. I gored plenty of establishment oxen, and I remember one history professor (American, naturally ) in particular really hating my work, calling it “propaganda.” My early historical writings were more about exposing what I was taught as history as a bunch of lies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#more

    than it was a quest for a “real” history. One history professor said that if I had been a professionally-trained historian, I would have written like so many liberal historians, and my work would have lost what made it unique.

    If not for my adventures:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm

    I would not have questioned my indoctrination as I did. When the dust finally settled in Ventura, all I really knew was that whatever I was taught about how the world worked was likely false. My site as of 2002 was more of an exercise of, “This is how the world definitely does not work.” I was dismantling the myths of my indoctrination more than anything else. Around the same time that I published my war essay (I did almost all of the work on it in the summer of 1999):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm

    another amateur published a book very similar to my essay:

    http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Private.../dp/188712845X

    and we both marveled over how similar our writings on that subject were. Dismantling the myths aside, I really wanted to know how things worked, and I suppose that that has been my quest for nearly my entire life. As I have studied the subjects that this thread has been covering since July, I came to appreciate the historian’s ideal, which is to retain a sense of contingency. Events did not have to turn out how they did, and what can we learn from the events of the past, to make the good parts of today’s world better and to heal the bad parts? Ideally, an understanding of how things worked will help us understand how they may have always worked, or the ways in which how they used to work differs from how they do today, or how they might tomorrow. In all likelihood, gravity works the same way today as it did a billion years ago, even though we were not there to experience it, and it will work the same way a billion years from now. Our relationship to gravity has changed, as has our understanding of it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    but gravity itself has not. So, I have plenty of respect for the process of history and science as disciplines, but both have been captured by vested interests. This is a problem in all disciplines, particularly in a world of scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#conflict

    I am not going to have much time in the morning for a post, but to continue this morning’s post a little, electricity allowed the separation of the source and use of energy in a way that was not previously possible. Trains also greatly expanded the hinterland that could feed urban areas. A big downside of that was people losing sight of how their world ran. With power plants sitting in the hinterland, people tended to lose sight of where their energy came from. It did not come from a switch in a wall. Similarly, city dwellers lost sight of where their food came from. It reached levels in my lifetime where American children literally thought that hamburgers grew in The Hamburger Patch:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonli...ff/3277733365/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburglar#Characters

    This kind of separation between production and consumption is partly what allows Americans to be oblivious of the realities behind their oil and other cheap imports:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress

    and in a world of scarcity, quite frankly, they don’t want to know. Blood-drenched goods traveling across the oceans to Europe began with Columbus, but back then the cargo was humans often enough. All of that gold and silver rolling into Spain in the 1500s was bought with the genocide of the natives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

    and it even bankrupted Spain:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#bankrupt

    and helped lead to its decline, so finding much benefit for anybody in the 1500s is not an easy task.

    Time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    "This kind of separation between production and consumption is partly what allows Americans to be oblivious of the realities behind their oil and other cheap imports"

    I had a difficult time understanding this in the past.

    I was raised in a rural area. I knew that electric power comes from the coal power plant, because my parents worked there, but everything else came from what you may call "the farm around the house", and it was very obvious to me the huge amount of energy we had to put in to it!

    Later on, I moved to the "big city" to continue my education, and it always amazed me how fascinated "the city people" would be with my farming stories . They were nothing short of "western movies" for them. "You touched a cow!? Whaa.. you're a brave one!". And in my mind I was like: "What?! What's so brave about touching a cow... they're the most gentle animals I know of..."

    Event though this was happening, I did not understand why and to what extent? Until one day, I read a blog post from a "city man", criticizing the "butcher" story of killing the pig at Christmas time (Romanian custom), instead of going to the super market and buying the pork products that you would normally eat at that time. He called us (the rural folk) barbarians Only then it dawned on me how much disconnected "the city people" are from the real world! This is happening Romania, and we are not so "developed" as US is today, so I can only imagine the kind of world model the "city children" in US have

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    Hi Ilie:

    Now that you have revealed a little more of your background, I can see more of where your keen perception comes from, although you likely think that most of it is just common sense. Being raised on a farm and moving to the city is a big help in thinking comprehensively. Dennis, Mr. Professor, and Mr. Mentor were all raised on farms, Dennis literally being a migrant farm worker, back when white people still did that in the USA:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

    You got to see the beginnings of the energy process that fed the cities, although it really began with the sun hundreds of millions of years ago, which was locked in that coal and eventually mined and released in the power plant. But on the farm, you knew that sunlight, water, minerals, and other nutrients were needed to make things grow, and it may have been obvious to you where all of that stuff came from and the energy it took to make it all available, but I have heard American farmers still be oblivious to the role that energy plays in the modern farm.

    I read an American farmer once react to my work, where he did not understand abundance at all, and said that the only wealth he ever saw all came from the sweat of his brow. How blind. An American farmer is kind of like the prow of a ship, riding on a huge wave of energy-driven technology, but if the figurehead on the prow can only see what is directly ahead of her/him, it is easy to get the idea that you are the ship and it is all your doing. It would be like Neil Armstrong thinking that he made it to the moon all by himself. He realized that he was only the sharp end of the spear. He did not make the spear and he did not throw it, but he rode on the end of it.

    An American farmer is riding on the backs of hundreds of energy slaves. And humans don’t do much of the work, but the crops do! Capturing sunlight and combining it with water and nutrients to make living flesh is the magic of a farm, not the man hoeing the field and harvesting the crop. And in the USA, as hard as a farmer may work, his energy expenditure is less than one percent of the energy being spent to till the soil, water the crops, harvest them, and take them to market.

    In The Omnivore’s Dilemma,

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Omnivores-.../dp/1594200823

    Michael Pollan tried to take the journey from soil to dinner table for the American meal, and he also tried to make a meal from wild ingredients, even hunting and dressing his own pig. He covered most of the territory, but he was not allowed to watch the cow that he bought being slaughtered (and he certainly did not raise it), and the wet mill, where corn is turned into the many products that it is today, would also not let him see how it is done. So, when part of the process is secret, so secret that a best-selling author is not allowed to witness it, it sure makes it hard for “modern” people to see the big picture.

    That level of idiocy, where people slaughtering their own meat are called barbarians, while the “civilized” people buy their meat shrink-wrapped, is part and parcel of the FE conundrum.

    In this world:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    every child knows how the energy chain works, from sunlight to their stomachs, and they know where FE comes from and how it works. They can also see it all, from start to finish, and I am sure are taught it by age three. There are no mountains of food being shipped across the world to their dinner tables, but it is all grown locally, and in a world like that, climate and other limitations do not exist. With FE, it can be the same way on this planet, and very soon. Of course, in that world, with love reigning, animals are not killed by humans for food or any other reason. They would see eating animals as the height of barbarity, and it might even be incomprehensible in that world. Our carnivorous ways are directly related to our murderous ways:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#murderous

    In fact, it may be impossible to become a true Level 12 and be a meat eater, but we will see. At some level, a meat eater condones killing, and it is not much of a leap to move into the coercive mindset that wants to “get” Godzilla and be subject to those other Young Warrior delusions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

    On a “terrorist” note, I just saw this, within hours after one of those idiot kids got killed in a shootout:

    http://news.yahoo.com/russias-caucas...113721792.html

    I would not think that we will invade a white nation in the “war on terror,” but we invaded Yugoslavia to “liberate” Kosovo:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#yugoslavian

    so we will see what shakes out. Since it was a breakaway province, I could see the Russians and Americans having a joint “war on terror” there. Shudder…

    Time for work.

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    Hey Wade,

    Just to address your question to me a few posts back......

    Quote When you have a moment, reflect on those posts that you made. Could you have made them three years ago?
    The answer to that is a resounding no. I joined this forum 2 years and 2 months ago and that was only after spending 8 months reading your website. 3 years ago was around the first time I had ever heard the words ‘free energy’ before. When I watched O’ Leary speaking about FE for the first time I knew it was a huge deal but remained skeptical about it all. If this stuff was real, then how come i’d never heard a mention of it before in the media or ever before just in passing? What about the "laws" of physics? Where were the working FE powered prototypes demonstrating the working technology? Two of the things that ran through my mind when hearing O’Leary speak and reading his book for the first time were that this guy is a either a deluded nut-job, or, he is simply way ahead in his understanding of the game. A deeper dig on the subject matters brought me to your website, and after reading that I concluded that you were either both a pair of deluded nut-jobs , or were both way ahead in your understanding of the game, in which case I had better start playing catch up.

    Watching countless hours worth of interviews on the ‘Energy From the Vacuum’ series (http://energyfromthevacuum.com/DVDListforpurchase.htm) from the likes of Bearden, Johnson, Bedini etc, and seeing working proof of concept over-unity prototypes in action satisfied me that technology wasn’t the problem, and I’m sure that’s a point Greer plans on making very clear in his upcoming movie. Re-reading chunks of your website and following your links on this thread along with listening to interviews from O’ Leary, Trombly and yourself, helped me to better understand the conundrum and why the land lies the way it currently does. Having studied 4 years of Biology at university I already had a good grasp of how energy runs the show from a biological perspective, but I never deeply considered the role of energy in economic terms. Ilie’s thread and your energy narrative opened my mind to the full extent that energy rules our earthly lives and helped me to see the impact FE would have if it was allowed to surface into the public domain.

    I then read other literature containing evidence supporting the limits of orthodox science that covered areas such as psychic phenomenon (remote viewing etc), quantum physics, alternative biology (experiments such as this one from Kervran - http://www.cheniere.org/books/aids/ch5.htm ), the placebo effect, psychology and the biology of belief, medical miracles, accounts of near death experiences, out of body experiences and lucid dreams (both of which I experience regularly), and any evidence I could find supporting consciousness existing beyond the physical body including those gained from my own personal experiences. I also did a deep dive on nutrition and alternative medical treatments and my findings supported the content of your 'Medical Racket' essay:

    http://http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm

    As a scientist you look at all the available evidence (or as much as possible; the more the merrier) before reaching the most probable conclusion, and if it means that you have to branch off into other disciplines such as economics, history, engineering or whatever to source further evidence then so be it. You can’t just use bias to cherry pick the stuff that best serves your interests/ego. Looking impartially at all the evidence that I have encountered, it’s impossible for me to conclude that all we are is a bunch of cells, amino acids, molecules, atoms etc, and that consciousness is merely an accidental byproduct of a bunch of atoms coming together randomly. The more I think about it the more i’m convinced that consciousness creates what we call ‘matter’.

    In the pursuit of answers to the shortcomings of science you are eventually confronted with matters of a spiritual nature. I was fortunate enough to have a mystical awakening when I was 21 so it didn’t really take all that much to get me back on track. ‘The Nature of Personal Reality’ by Jane Roberts, ‘Bringers of the Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak and a dozen plus readings of Wade’s ‘A Spiritual Perspective’ essay sufficed for me and helped me to tie the whole thing together in a way that has me back in a state of childlike wonder and awe.

    I write the above to confirm from my experience what Wade has said previously about there being no shortcut when it comes to understanding the FE conundrum. It isn’t for quick study artists. You simply have to put the hours in and do your homework. I don’t have all the answers but having more information and a much better understanding of why this world is the way it is, has left me feeling a hell of a lot more at ease (sane? ) than I was 3 years ago.

    The part I don’t get about Greer’s effort is the plan to build a FE lab part. Didn’t Adam Trombly have a multi million dollar lab set up a few years back which was effectively shut down by the powers that be? I imagine Greer is aware of this so what makes him think his planned FE lab will have anything other than a similar fate?

    Travelling around India is no picnic knowing what can be with FE and seeing what is. I’m currently in the capital of Ghandi’s home state and it's one of the most polluted cities on the planet. The smog is ridiculous with there being an insane amount of vehicles running on diesel and kerosene and everywhere you look there is extreme poverty staring you in the face. It’s interesting to read what you write above about Level 12’s and meat eating. Any of the ‘sacred’ or ‘holy’ towns and cities i’ve visited in India have only vegetarian food on offer and I have often noticed that the western folk I meet who I would consider to be the most sentient are non-meat eaters. I was a big meat eater up until relatively recently when I started studying nutrition and got a better understanding of where my food was coming from, what I was sponsoring by eating it, and what it was exactly that I was putting in my body. When I really thought about it, I could no longer see the difference between eating beef, pork, chicken etc and the idea of consuming human flesh. Eating animals is ultimately just a cousin to cannibalism. Nowadays I’m having a hard enough time with my conscience eating plants. I can easily imagine living in a world where FE is considered sacred/divine and humanity no longer eats meat. I suspect way on down the line we will ultimately learn how to ween ourselves off all food like the select few humans who have gotten the hang of inedia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

    Anyway, good luck with finishing that essay and enjoy your well deserved time of work Wade.
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    Hi:

    Just last week, a few days before the Marathon bombing, a friend wrote this to me:

    How can American citizens ever become peaceful in nature when their government is one of the most violent governments in all history?

    When can American citizens ever become honest in their dealings with one another while their government continues to be one of the most dishonest and fraudulent in all history, especially in regards to counterfeiting its own currency?

    When will American citizens ever be able to stop molesting and abusing their children when their government continues to molest and abuse vulnerable people all over the world for fraudulent reasons?

    And the same question can be asked about 20 or 30 other areas of life that decay and destroy society, morals, ethics, civilization, health, the environment, etc.

    When will American citizens ever be able to stop thinking and acting like criminals as long as their government is almost totally criminal?

    It is government-centric, and the primary “quarterback” for our insanity is private interests, as Godzilla is a private entity, only using government for its ends when necessary. So on that score it does not aim high enough, but government is the face that Americans see, so I understand the sentiment.

    Watching the Boston Marathon drama play out this week brought up many thoughts and emotions for me. I have several pals who have run in the Boston Marathon. Brian O did in his youth:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#Personal

    When I lived in Boston with Dennis:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

    it was only a few miles from where that second bomber was caught. In my new office, in about the nicest business district in the USA, where I can run into the world’s richest man:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

    co-workers near our reception area make half-jokes about their escape route if a gunman comes into our office (likely a former employee) with guns blazing. I actually have had to think about my escape route. Just in the past year, one cousin and one friend had to stay indoors because there was a gunman on the loose, one in Seattle:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Se...shooting_spree

    and one in the mountains of California:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner

    I have written where a close relative and I turned on the TV one night in the mid-1990s, to see a shooter in the middle of a spree, where my relative had to help console the co-workers of those killed in the spree the next morning:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tal#post599559

    There was a recent murder in a nightclub that I walked by almost daily.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post605311

    Less than a year ago, a “survivalist” killed his family and then killed himself in his bunker that he built on a mountain that I regularly hike at:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226341829258

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/peter-kelle...4#.UXKirGzn81w

    I have written that when I worked in that medical lab, one of our employees was killed in a drive-by shooting one day:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-by#post406935

    and several years ago, one of my co-workers, whose office was literally next to mine, was shot one day as he rode his bike home from work. A car drove right up to him and some idiot gang-bangers shot him. It is uncommon enough here, at least so far, that his shooting made the news, and after a few days in the hospital, he rode his bike to work his first day back, as if his shooting was nothing.

    My nation is batsh*t crazy, and all during the Marathon drama, the flags were being waved over and over (see this, for example http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/suspe...024444535.html). What the hell does that have to do with anything? Perhaps the most telling part of the entire ordeal was when the suspects were identified as ethnic Chechens (who actually never lived in Chechnya), the president of Chechnya immediately tried to deflect blame back onto the USA:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...pbringing.html

    probably to help prevent “war on terror” activities there, although the American media is already proclaiming Russia as the new terror central:

    http://news.yahoo.com/russias-caucas...113721792.html

    Orwell’s 1984 is more timely than ever:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell

    But as I was saying regarding that recent elementary school shooting:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ied#post599358

    it just gets quickly buried by the next shootings, and I have to admit, I readily lose track of them these days. Did that elementary school shooting happen this year or last year? I really have to think about it.

    And within hours of the Marathon bombings, my email in-basket began to get filled up with conspiracist material. The conspiracist angle on this stuff is as sick as the rest of it. It is almost like there is a conspiracist template out there, where the latest shooting, bombing, what have you, gets quickly shoehorned into the “false flag” paradigm, and the “evidence” is twisted this way and that to conform to the agenda, and then it gets dispersed far and wide. You don’t need conspiracism to explain what we are seeing and, crazily, the first thing that the gun nuts do is buy more guns with each shooting and bombing. The USA has a “Wild West” fantasy that is deeply embedded, as epitomized by the Western movie. There is almost nothing about the cowboy movie view of the “Wild West” that is accurate. The so-called cowboy era only lasted for about twenty-five years in the 1800s, but the fantasies about it are alive and well today.

    This insanity and childish fascination with weaponry is all part of the FE conundrum, and my nation is so far gone on the mental scale that I virtually never try to reach out to my fellow Americans on the FE issue, and as can be seen on this thread, few posters are Americans. I only hope that they don’t interfere with my efforts any more than they already have, and the biggest interferers have usually been friends and family.

    Just before I posted this, I saw David’s latest response, so here goes…

    David, you are one of the reasons why I have done my work over the past 25 years. When I can spur somebody like you out of your easy chair and go check things out, then it is mission accomplished for me. And when you and CdnSirian check in with tales of people fighting over cow pies in India, it adds to my store of knowledge. Fighting over cow pies is no surprise, knowing the energy situation there, but I did not know the extent of it. And yes, FE can make all of it go away, almost overnight. To deny FE because of fear of unpredictable outcomes is not thinking very far, but is projecting fears of scarcity onto a situation of abundance. Enough of us need to get over the hump on the mental/emotional scale so that we can help FE manifest in the public domain, and then the rest of humanity will begin to understand. They really are not reachable by anything less.

    On Greer’s efforts, heck, I was standing there as they carted off our equipment:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

    so I am all-too-familiar with the hazards of making an FE lab. Trombly’s lab was actually built by his partner, the partner who began to attack Adam after Thrive came out:

    http://abundanthope.net/pages/Politi..._printer.shtml

    which is an altercation that I have the connections to get to the bottom of, and I may one day. I have been invited to meet Trombly and Farnsworth, but I really don’t have anything to do with the FE field anymore, and don’t really want to. I am doing something different.

    But regarding Greer’s attempt, as I have stated plenty of times on this thread, the only chance that the FE inventor route has is for the inventor with the goods giving it to a worthy group, and that group can try to develop it, but it is an industrial task, not one for garage tinkering. I have never seen the inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never seen that worthy group. I’ll likely keep half an eye on Greer’s lab efforts, and I will say this: the only chance that a lab like that has is complete transparency. If it tries to operate in secret, tries to patent its goodies, tries to go the capitalist route, it does not stand a prayer. I think that Greer is hip enough to understand that, but we will see. I know many in the FE and related fields who doubt that Greer has the right stuff to lead an effort like that, and maybe they are right, but I don’t see many others even trying, so I’ll try to keep my observations to myself, even though the route that Greer seems to be trying is not exactly new. The crowd-funding aspect is in the right direction. Again, his combination of public education and going for a lab is definitely one of the paths with promise, but the problem, as usual, will be the public’s level of support and the threat that Greer’s allies will pose, not really what Godzilla and his lackeys in government do, although they are a danger, too. Because Greer has already been gnawed on by Godzilla and barely survived the experience, even if his personality seems to have changed after the attacks:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ity#post661576

    I am interested to see how this latest effort pans out. Basically, I am going for the education route, first, and taking people deeply, before anything like an FE lab is made. I would need at least a thousand like Ilie and David before I even dreamed of trying that route. I have serious doubts that Greer’s effort has enough people in it with the right stuff, who have made the paradigm shift from scarcity to abundance in their hearts and minds, and can stand tall for what they are about to attempt. I saw how easily Level 10 efforts were to defeat, repeatedly, and while Greer’s efforts have the whiff of Level 12 to them at times, I also see plenty of Level 10-ness to them. So, while I wish Greer the best, I am taking a different approach, which we might call The Sentient Lamb Approach.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am between chores. Already, we are seeing attacks on Islamic people, as usual, and in an attempt to get ahead of the upcoming flipside of all of that flag waving, people are asking that we don’t go kill more Muslims because of this:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...veryone-partic

    http://notesfromthetrailblog.com/?p=391

    We already got stampeded into killing several million innocent people:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post652292

    but when the flags go up, the brain shuts down. We will see how it plays out.

    On David’s comment on vegetarianism, it is part of the awakening curve. When people begin to awaken and become sensitive to others, renouncing violence is one of the early steps. Fast behind it is thinking about the ways that we are harming Earth’s denizens, and the question soon arises if we really need to kill animals to sustain ourselves. I know the answer is no, especially with all the goodies in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard.

    Heck, both times when I became a vegetarian, it was not about lessening the suffering of my fellow creatures:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#reason

    But in the aftermath of my first stint with Dennis, the ethical/spiritual reason trumped the health reasons, and I passed the point-of-no-return in the 1980s. My adult journey killed my racist and bigoted redneck upbringing, as well as my indoctrination that becoming a killer was part of growing up (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business), and becoming a vegetarian was just part of the path.

    When I became embroiled in the vegetarian controversy, what made me the angriest about the anti-vegetarian crusaders was them portraying all vegetarians as PETA fanatics:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#fanatic

    The adolescent PETA attitude can be found in most “causes,” I am sorry to say. I guess that adolescents can be activists, too, but the adolescent attitude can do more harm than good.

    You can see the gradual awakening of even somebody like Richard Bach in his books. In his pre-Seagull books, he was a happy flyboy for the USA’s military, waving his flag. In his later books, he admitted that his love of flying was used by the war machine. Bach also has the enlightened point of view that his youthful self was fine, living in its own integrity, and growing up was part of the process of living. In his later books, after he gave up his flag-saluting “patriotism,” he became a vegetarian.

    Mohandas Gandhi said that “moral” vegetarianism was the only worthwhile version to practice:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#gandhi

    and I’ll agree. Becoming a vegetarian is just a “hazard” of waking up.

    Time for chores.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    In the wake of the biggest “terrorist” event in the USA since 9/11, this is probably a good time to explore the possibly violent aspect of FE. I am far too familiar with the dynamics that lead to the kinds of activities that we saw in the past week in the USA. I have mentioned plenty about that redneck aspect of my upbringing. Not only was I subject to redneck racism and bigotry while I was being raised, and it took a few years to put it behind me, but I was also close to that redneck side of my family while growing up.

    Almost to a person, their lives were disasters, especially the men. Almost all of the redneck-relative men in my generation spent time in prison or should have. I remember being around some of them when they were less than ten years old, and wondering what kind of people they would grow up to be, and armed robbery and other crimes were in their futures. One close relative actually joined the Ku Klux Klan and a domestic “terrorist” organization, and while the FBI was looking for him, he came to stay with me. One close relative murdered his infant son, and will likely not live to see this side of the bars again. And I am just skimming the highlights of the lives of my redneck relatives. One was beaten to death over his drug-dealing. I could go on and on. I am actually at some risk of one of more of my homeless redneck relatives showing up at my home, wanting to be taken in. If I did, it would put my life’s work at risk. I don’t need weak links like that in my life, especially as I am about to take the stage with my effort. Even the relatives in my life are often loose cannons that cause me a plenty of grief.

    And it is far from just me, with this kind of situation. Dennis was raised as a migrant farmworker, in the same redneck culture. Those Jeff Foxworthy clichés are unfortunately true:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Foxworthy

    Dennis, Mr. Professor, and I are/were very high-functioning individuals in a sea of dysfunction. I have stated plenty that I work in hi-tech, and everybody I ever worked for became rich or was already. And when I heard some of their life’s stories, it was often similar, where they were the high-functioning exception in their families. Maybe they had a parent that encouraged it, but it usually did not “take” with their siblings, and they have all manner of would-be parasite relative who would like to get their hooks into them. And it is not just that the high-functioners are smarter than the others. Some of my F***-up relatives are nearly as smart, or even smarter, than I am. They just can’t get it together, usually because of their egocentric delusions. They are probably “younger” souls.

    The lottery is a poor tax, and most American lottery winners piss it all away within a few years, not only to their parasite friends and relatives, but they live like nouveau riche for a few years until it is all gone. Basically, if people did not really earn it, they rarely can manage it. The epitome of this might be NBA players, black players from the projects more often than not, it seems, and most of them piss their money away very quickly, even going bankrupt before their careers are over.

    But when you really look at all of their crazy reactions to money and other dysfunctional behavior, it is a reaction to poverty. It may seem strange to have that discussion in history’s richest and most powerful nation, but we have always had a pronounced class system, although it is never polite to admit it. During the post-war boom, many of those people escaped the hollers and ghettos, and I know many of them in my life. But for every one that escaped, more are mired in their socio-economic roots, unable to rise above their early conditioning.

    So, it is easy to look at people today, and what those men/boys did in Boston (let’s assume for the moment that it was not a false-flag operation, although nothing would surprise me in this milieu), and think that with FE, it would quickly become one big shootout, or everybody would quickly strip mine the planet, to “get theirs.” Is humanity really that stupid, collectively? People like Heinberg think so, but then he turns around and asks that we reach levels of sentience that are far, far beyond the sentience needed to handle abundance:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

    When Greer has made the case for FE technology and what it could do, one of the most common reactions is that we would quickly wipe ourselves out in some kind of global shootout. His reply is that the worst elements of humanity already possess FE technology:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#divine

    so their fears seem to be overblown. But I advocate a global peacekeeping force staffed with women, preferably grandmothers, during the transition period:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post628165

    The bottom line is that geo-political boundaries are a manifestation of ape-territoriality, and have always been an energy-scarcity dynamic. Controlling lands and peoples is all about scarcity, and with economic abundance, it will quickly vanish. As I keep saying, many things that we assume about today’s world will vanish with FE and abundance. Cities will become obsolete. Geo-political boundaries will disappear. There will no longer be nations. They will no longer make sense, just like chattel slavery no longer makes sense. As I stated recently, even race will go away, and not just racism, but race itself:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post656124

    That won’t happen in my lifetime, but it is an inevitable outcome of a humanity that is no longer constrained by energy scarcity, gravity, material limitations, and the like. The races are like varieties of dogs, roses, or other species. Domesticated varieties are due to conscious breeding by humans, while natural varieties and sub-species are due to geographic isolation. Geographic isolation for peoples will come to an end. And when people get fearful when pondering this, the question becomes why? When I see people explore it rationally, it always comes down to their adaptations to scarcity. They take pride in their ethnicity, race, or what have you, and that is always a reaction to scarcity, with them often being on the receiving end of discrimination (or they are the “winning” race or ethnic group), which is always economic at its root. If you ever think deeply about these issues, it becomes very clear how scarcity defines our existences, in both obvious and subtle ways.

    When everybody lives in abundance, stuff like “terrorism” will simply make no sense, because nobody is oppressed. As I have stated repeatedly, the hitch that I have seen with FE in people’s minds is not so much the “laws of physics” objection, or the “we will strip mine the planet” or “we will have a big shoot out ” fears, but people not being sure where their place would be in a world of abundance. And that is fear talking. Again, those grandmothers will be in position to easily find and take away FE devices that have been weaponized, and if the boys just cannot play nice, then they will be sequestered from civilization, but it won’t be anything like prison, but a place of healing and education.

    Try to imagine a “terrorist” in this world:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    I am not saying that there won’t be some transitional problems, but the human journey has been all about solving our problems, but up until now, they have all been pursued under an umbrella of energy scarcity, even in the good ol’ USA. Solving our problems when we have energy abundance will look like nothing that we have ever seen before, and it could be one heck of a lot of fun, and it would not take much experience with what comes with FE for everybody to wonder what there is to be afraid of.

    But, again, the vast majority is mired in scarcity-based thinking, and they are not going to begin to wake up to the idea of abundance until they can see it in action. And for those who think that is unworkable, they are not familiar with history. People did not have to be trained to begin to understand what industrialization meant; it just happened. Until they had the experience of it, they could not imagine it, but once its reality came to pass, people adapted to it. My grandfather was raised in a sod hut, and before his career ended, his nation had landed men on the moon, and his son helped make it happen:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#oleary

    My grandfather did not pine for the good old days when he lived in a sod hut:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

    He was very happy that those days were in his rear-view mirror. The changes that would come with FE would dwarf that kind of change, but people will be able to handle it. I have that much “faith” in us. But the masses will not lead that change. A few heroes have tried:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    but there are not enough of them to overcome humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression. While the “choir” that I am trying to form may seem totally useless, when compared to warriors like Dennis and Greer, playing the Indiana Jones game, it is vitally needed and perhaps the biggest missing piece that I saw during my FE days.

    I have been at this for nearly forty years, and doubt that I will ever be “done” in this lifetime, but I know how beneficial such a choir could be. But the hard work is learning the abundance song and learning to sing it in harmony. The hard work is now. Many can’t see that, but trust me on this. Once I get a nucleus built, the rest will come easier, but I am going to be very particular in these early days. It is about quality and hitting the notes, not about quantity.

    Stay tuned.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    OK, a little on money and banking. As I wrote earlier, Athens had the first monetized economy:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post581232

    Money is exalted today in “modern” circles as some great invention. Money is only accounting, and accounting goes back to the beginnings of civilization. Similar to how city people tend to lose track of where their food/energy/materials comes from, they tend to focus on money, thinking that that is where economic activity comes from. I see this all the time, where people think that the economy is money and Wall Street, when it is only accounting. Money is not real. In early civilizations, when money was food, such as ears of maize or cocoa beans in Mesoamerica, the money actually had some intrinsic value.

    Money has not had any intrinsic value for a long time. When the Europeans and Americans were obsessed with gold and silver, there was no intrinsic value in those metals. Even today, only about 10% of gold is used in industry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Consumption

    Silver’s industrial use is about 30%:

    http://tradingstocks.me/industrial-u...up-18-percent/

    But back before the industrial era, there were almost no practical uses for those metals, as they are too soft. And in an example of how advancing technology can change materials use, the advent of digital photography is making film photography disappear, which was a large use of silver in industry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver#...nd_electronics

    Even Hollywood is moving away from film, with increasing digital recordings:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinematography

    Film will go the way of the dinosaur in my lifetime.

    When money was based on gold and silver, it only led to gold and silver rushes, and genocidal ones:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

    Today, money is increasingly not even paper, but electronic impulses. There is a school of thought today that wants economies to go back to gold and silver standards, because then the currency is hard to manipulate. Today, we see money being printed with abandon by the industrial economies, with interest rates being held at zero. It is an accounting game, to favor one group over another, such as the banks over the depositors.

    There is a huge amount of conspiratorial literature on the creation of the Federal Reserve and how the various interests - Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, etc. - got ahold of the world economy by controlling banking. I will not deny that there are shenanigans happening at those levels of the game, and banking is one of the global cartels that Rappoport cites:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#rappoport

    but TPTB control the world by controlling the energy industry, far more than anything else. Money is far down the food chain. It is not even the tail on the dog, but the hair on the tail. The egocentric economy worships money. The real economy only sees money as an exchange mechanism, although Godzilla also uses it as a control mechanism, such as all of that quiet money:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

    a chunk of which would have been mine if Dennis and I were in it for the money:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

    The bottom line is that money is not real, and there is nothing about it that will solve our problems. In fact, the quickest way that people identify themselves as not having the right stuff to go after FE is when they start talking about how they are going to make money at it. In our so-called modern economies, virtually all economic exchange has money as part of it, but having money is no guarantee of anything in this field. Godzilla can make the money in your bank account disappear overnight if he needs to. Money gives people a false sense of security, and it is absolutely useless, as far as mounting an FE effort. Money only buys somebody’s effort, and if people need to be paid to be involved, they quickly go chasing after the highest bidder:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#salient3

    and Godzilla has the deepest pockets of all.

    I have never asked for money for my work and never will, and my readers do not need to spend any money to obtain my work and study it. A huge advantage of the Internet is the low-cost way of distributing information, which I am taking full advantage of, and plan to use exclusively as I try out my choir idea. Nobody will have to pay to consume it.

    In a world of abundance, money becomes meaningless:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek

    and that is what the choir will be focusing on, not how to get its hands on a bunch of money. If the time comes to actually go build an FE device, the effort will be non-profit and completely transparent. No secret bank accounts, no secret labs, no anonymity, and so on (which is why I won’t be allowing anonymous members of the choir – the secrecy attitude is antithetical to making it happen). It will all happen in the light of day, but until the awareness is raised high enough, with enough attention by people with the right stuff who know what’s up, an effort like that does not stand a prayer. Godzilla hides in the shadows, such is how the dark side operates. A movement of the light will not operate that way.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    The real economy only sees money as an exchange mechanism
    In my view, money, debt, energy and control are linked at their hips.

    Individuals, companies and governments are persuaded to borrow money in order to live higher up on "energy life style" curve than their present income or savings support. They are selling their future cash flows, in essence. But Godzilla controls those cash flows. Once the debt is piled high enough, they curtail the lending, crashing the economy, leading to foreclosures, defaults and bankruptcies, which lead to Godzilla picking up control of the property, future productivity and first born of the debtor.

    Real energy is physical and limited - if my car's gas tank is empty, it doesn't run, period. Money is virtual energy which Godzilla can easily create and destroy, without limit, in order to separate us from the fruits of our labor past (foreclosures and repossessions), present (taxes, rent and interest) and future (when you can't make your debt payments because Godzilla suffocated you income stream.)

    Money, and the other side of the fulcrum, debt, are the lever used by Godzilla to gain control over the fruits of our labor, by using money and debt to control access to energy and what it can produce (especially food, water, and shelter for the laborers and refined metals for the gods.)

    (But I kind of feel like I am trying to play a bag pipe at a piano concerto ... so I should probably shush ... sorry.)
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    In a world of abundance, money becomes meaningless:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#trek

    and that is what the choir will be focusing on, not how to get its hands on a bunch of money.
    Yes, if we easily obtained energy and what it produces, without playing Godzilla's various debt and money, war and taxes, regulation and control games, then Godzilla could "retire" though I doubt he'll do so gracefully. His games, which encompass so much of our conscious lives, would become noxious nonsense.
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    Hi Paul:

    You bagpipe is welcome. I appreciate the consideration that you, Limor, and CdnSirian have been showing lately, by downplaying your posts as you make them or soon thereafter, but you are all making worthy posts, and it is always the most considerate who are reticent. I encourage perceptive posts, even when they seem to misalign with my themes, and really, I have yet to see many posts on my threads that are not topical. These are big subjects. When Ilie politely challenges me, it makes my day. I mean it, because it means that I need to go more in depth on a topic.

    Your post points out part of the FE conundrum’s crux. In the current economy, energy is indeed finite and scarce, and Godzilla’s entire game of money, debt, taxes, war, and the like is entirely predicated on keeping energy finite and scarce. And yes, money becomes a proxy for that finite and scarce energy, and when everybody focuses on the money game – how much is mine, how much is yours, and who owes what to whom – then Godzilla has the game well in hand. FE is his worst nightmare, because then it would be game over, and he knows it. With FE and abundance, money, taxes, debt, and the like vanish, and so will the motivation behind war, which is where Godzilla really gets off. Godzilla is like the house in Vegas – he only wins when people play – and the house always wins.

    The movie War Games had a punch line where the computer stated, “The only way to win a nuclear war is not to play.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames#Plot

    When people focus on our problems as being primarily about debt, taxes, money, and the like, their minds and spirits are trapped by Godzilla’s artificially-enforced scarcity paradigm. As I have been stating for the past decade, Godzilla’s greatest triumph is making FE and what can come with it unimaginable:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#thinkable

    and when it begins to become imaginable to some people, then Godzilla’s next line of defense is making sure that people try to make FE happen via avenues that he controls and that actually reinforce the scarcity paradigm, such as raising money, applying for patents, working in secret labs, and so on. The scarcity path to abundance does not seem to work, as its methods cut the legs out from under it. Because we all need to eat and there is only so much time in a day, overcoming the artificially-enforced scarcity paradigm is no easy trick, and only a relative handful of people today are fit for the task. That is not elitist – those are just the numbers, which took me many years to finally understand, and that was one of the loneliest feelings in the world.

    Less than one person in a thousand in the general population will even dare to imagine abundance in a meaningful way. Let’s say that one in ten thousand is able and willing to. That means that there are nearly a million of them on the planet today. But many are children or do not have Internet access, although those who can imagine abundance may well hail more from the industrialized world, as they can see what relative abundance has done for their standard of living, so they already have a hint at what FE can mean. People fighting over cow pies may have a difficult time imagining abundance. Let’s winnow down the numbers to 250,000 who have Internet access and are able and willing to just imagine abundance and have at least Limor’s grasp of English (although I certainly favor this happening in all the languages that it can). I am looking to recruit less than ten thousand of them, or around one in thirty. That seems to give me pretty good odds. Nobody else on Earth is really trying what I am, with my background, so there will not be any “competition” for them. And if somebody else got an abundance choir going before I did, I would join it. When enough people can hit the notes, it will not matter much who leads the choir, and we can take turns. My goal is for those several thousand to reach a harmony that will be truly heard by perhaps ten times that many. It will be the song they never heard before, but have yearned for all of their lives. They won’t be the choir, but they will get active, and they will have the right stuff. With those numbers, the technical aspect of making FE happen would be child’s play.

    Godzilla’s minions are watching my efforts, and I am sure have some plans to disrupt them if they ever begin to bear fruit (i.e., a chorus forms). If I was exposed to the general public like I was at ATS, the trolls would come running:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll

    Mr. Skeptic did not need to crash ATS and attack me, as the trolls were doing just fine on their own, although they probably had him in reserve, just in case, but then ATS banned me instead of the trolls, which was educational.

    The above was written before your second post, which is really an amen to what I wrote above. Yes, Godzilla does not want to give up the game that he has mastered, but there is dissension in the ranks, as the game is reaching planet-threatening levels, and most in Godzilla’s ranks favor FE coming out:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    even though they know it will mean the end of the game, although I can even see them trying to preserve part of it. I am virtually certain that that disenchanted faction gave my friend that show long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    I also have heard from reliable sources that one of Godzilla’s contingency plans is terraforming Mars if his game ends up wrecking this planet, and I imagine that when that plan was floated, the dissension in the ranks swelled. You really have to be insane to be willing to destroy your home planet as a side-effect of your power game, to then try to make another inhabitable so that the game can continue. But the dark path is really the craziest path of all, although dark pathers sure can seem “smart.” Max is one brilliant dude:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

    People like Max can only play their games in a world of scarcity. In a world of abundance, their games won’t work. Godzilla may not go quietly, but I have had enough surprises and divine intervention on my journey to know that Godzilla is not nearly as much in control as he would like to be. If he does not slink away or try to blend in, I favor building Godzilla his retirement home, where he can rest from his labors, maybe on a tropical island and maybe just down the street, but his days running the species are numbered, in one way or another.

    Best,

    Wade

    P.S. I just read this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/simi-s...b_3128180.html

    and the responses, and there is questioning happening about how young men can commit “terrorist” acts like they did.

    The gist of the situation seems to be this:

    A relatively normal, talented teenager came under the influence of a malign ideology, probably via his older relative, and then inflicted deadly violence on people that he did not even know, terrorizing an entire city. It may be that some kind of childish ideological conviction, combined with his youthful hormones and inexperience, turned him into a killer of innocent people.

    I’ll be damned if that does not depict the average American soldier in Iraq. Or Vietnam, or Korea, or Panama, etc. A few years into our invasion of Iraq, a third of our soldiers admitted to killing a civilian. And those were not usually combat situations, but just the daily lives of the soldiers there, “lighting up” a street when necessary, opening up on cars at “checkpoints” when the driver looked suspicious, and so on. In the eyes of the invaders, all of the natives become “enemies.” I unfortunately have watched way too much gun camera footage from Iraq, with our boys taking out all manner of “belligerent,” and almost everything that I have seen was “illegally” leaked. God only knows what the archives would look like in their fullness. I have posted “trophy shots” that our boys and girls proudly made:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

    In Vietnam, our boys made up the “Mere Gook Rule” to laugh off their murders. They actually had murder quotas:

    http://www.vice.com/read/vietnam-and-the-mere-gook-rule

    The My Lai Massacre was just a day at the office, if one of the more “productive” ones. The things I have heard from my pals rank right up there with the worst atrocities that the Nazis committed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#interrogate

    It seems that the best that can be said about our adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan is that they have not been quite as gratuitously murderous as Vietnam was, but that may still be open for debate. Horrific stories have been trickling out of Iraq, and maybe in forty years we will hear more about them.

    I was indoctrinated to become one of those killers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    and I have to thank my mother for prevailing on my father to talk me out of it. When we live in a culture that glorifies violence, where the predominant ideologies make others “less” because they don’t belong to our “club” (take your pick: gender, race, class, ethnicity, nationality, religion, political-economic ideology, professional credential, species, body-fat percentage, sexual orientation, and so on), and anybody can easily acquire weaponry and other deadly materials, we have a prescription for the USA that we see today. All these young men killers that have been making headline after headline in the past few years are just would-be soldiers gone bad, attacking the “wrong” people.

    Our system makes them into killers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#coerce

    Nineteen-year-old boys are the most vulnerable to their killer ape heritage, probably of any age, and our system exploits it instead of trying to protect those young men from it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#fussell2

    When I hear amazement that somebody could do what those brothers did, I know that they are oblivious to the realities of our great nation.

    Time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    After watching Sirius I have to wonder do ETs have Free Energy? If they do, does that make them the good guys?

    If I am given a ship, powered by a Free Energy device, and sent to another planet to cause trouble, what is to stop me from running away and use that Free Energy device to start a non-violent civilization?

    Can there be controllers and controlled in a Free Energy society? Perhaps with strong mental conditioning? Could Free Energy be contained once it gets to be widely used?

    I also look at channeled material, at people that claim are in contact with highly advanced ET intelligences, at people that claim have been on board of ET craft, at current gurus and spiritual masters and almost none of them ever mentions Free Energy. None of these so called teachings, that are supposed to help us become free, none are addressing the Energy issue in any meaningful way... So then I have to wonder? How enlightened and how helpful are those teachings? When do they stop being helpful and they become just another (very powerful) distraction? Another trap of victim-savior thinking? Almost all say stuff like "we are all Energy", "we are all Love", but those are just empty words if not followed through with practical application of Free Energy. I find this very very strange...

    It could be that I simply did not read enough channeled material or I did not read enough contactee testimony, but so far Free Energy, the truly liberating, down to Earth, tech already invented, practical solution seems to escape even the brightest ET intelligence. When I hear alleged ETs advising to go for patents, raising money, share the small pie more evenly, I really have to wonder who's the poor man behind that "ET presence"?

    I guess another argument could be made that usually the help is given to help individuals overcome their conditioning. That Free Energy talk is too advanced for most of the audience? But they could at least drop a line or two about it... Or are they trying to help up all become "ascended masters" and so Free Energy becomes a "side effect" of our being?

    How come that such a central, all encompassing issue as Energy is missing from the "helpful teachings"?

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    One hour of no elctricity as part of 'Earth day' was celebrated yesterday in Israel, and only 4% of the citizens have turned off the lights in solidarity with our blue planet. It is true that there is no real benefit from giving up the use of electricity for this short amount of time of 60 minutes, there really can not be any real contemplation of life without this kind of energy which is so available to us, when an hour later we can casually pick up the electricity switch and forget about it all. Maybe it's just the fact that we dare to put our minds to it, that for a duration of an hour we are ready to think about the implications of living, using and abusing our planet home.

    However, only 4% took the time to switch off...
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    I wanted to comment on something in regards to the terror attacks committed by young people which help to serve some hidden purpose for our administration. I have to admit I am as delicate as a sandpaper when it comes to this area of our lives, being influenced by it myself.
    A comprehensive look is pretty difficult to achieve, even when searching and investigating our past and our present, we are sometimes ruquired to know the future, and how can that possibly be done? What expertise can allow us to know the unknown? Tapping into what is to come must be based on what was and what is. As early as the 1950's, the CIA was involved in experiments on mind control over citizens, nowdays governments and other agencies take part in what is known (and can easily be searched and verified) as unlawful interference in people's minds. futuristic? well, the future seems to be here.

    Quote Originally posted by Wade Frazier: ".. and there is questioning happening about how young men can commit “terrorist” acts like they did.

    The gist of the situation seems to be this:

    A relatively normal, talented teenager came under the influence of a malign ideology, probably via his older relative, and then inflicted deadly violence on people that he did not even know, terrorizing an entire city. It may be that some kind of childish ideological conviction, combined with his youthful hormones and inexperience, turned him into a killer of innocent people."
    We live in a global climate where it is difficult to guess how much of it has developed organically and how much was regulated and calculated in a purposeful way, but my own guess is that if ever we will find out, the later will be shockingly present. We are at the beggining of an era where the mind rules.

    What Wade is aming to do and demonstartes, is rooted in the deep understanding that our minds (in combination with our hearts) have the greatest power to move mountains. For Godzila, it seems like old news, but it gives him a slight concern that the little infants may wake up from their nap and figure out that they can climb over the baby crib and go tour without the need for any adult supervision. like parents that want their baby to continue sleeping they preper well in advance dummy teats and pacifiers. It is true that the amount of brain washing that exists in the world and the methods of division are of great influence to those young man and to all of us when we lack awarness. Wade has been taught that a 'real' man is a one who joins the army and do what men are expected to do. I did my millitary service as a vegeterian rather non violent young woman out of confidence that this is what I need to do, and I was a pretty good and loyal solidier. We are all affected and impacted by our well orchastrated surrounding and a good amount of indoctrination passing from one generation to another, but, the growing number of accidental shooting and acts of terrorism done by young people today are in the majotiry of cases a directed mind control interference.
    In order to make sure that we have the widest perspective that is so needed, a research on the behavioral engineering of humans via their minds is recommended. It is the era of the mind. What we do with it and how we develop this amazing tool in spite of the interfernces from outside is a key, with no less importance than FE is, I dare say ~

    Blessing for a good day!

    ~^&*~^&*

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    Hi Ilie:

    I see that I can’t buy the Sirius DVD until June. I hope it has subtitles for this half-deaf man.

    What you are seeing, where all the mystical stuff stresses only the mystical, even the ET-related, I think is part of the lopsidedness of the genre. It is not all like that, but a great deal is. That is another instance of the “we are so heavenly bound we are no earthly good” theme. It is a very common one, virtually a cliché in those circles. I think that it is partly because the “channel” is scientifically illiterate and does not know how our world works, so you get those totally impractical “channelings.”

    The only thing that we take with us is our awareness, and so working on it is our most important job, but there is the issue of living in physical reality. If you think about it, all of those so-called channels don’t live here, so maybe it is easy for them to miss the boat, too. The better channeled stuff discusses that problem, where when we are here, we forget being there, and vice versa. An integrated perspective can also be the physical/non-physical divide, although we can’t remember the other side, and when on the other side, we tend to forget what it is like to have a body and the limitations of physical reality. To that, I am sympathetic to the idea out there that the entire physical reality and reincarnation game is a prison for our spirits that we have been lured into (or fell into). I don’t know if that is true, because my memories were taken away from me, but the answer, as usual is waking up and manifesting love. That is the only way out, no matter what game has been set up here.

    The so-called New Age is notorious for that disconnectedness that you notice, but it is far worse than that, where when it comes to material wellbeing, it is a narcissistic and totally impractical “program” of just wishing our goodies into being, as if the universe just wants to give it to those that ask for it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

    I see that short-sighted “mysticism” all the time. Again, the best mystical stuff says that the highest expression of love on this plane is taking care of another’s physical needs. When you do that, the rest is small stuff. Look at the tales in the New Testament. All the pretty words were nice, but Jesus knew that nobody would listen unless their bellies were full, so he manifested the loaves and fishes. Healing the sick, causing the blind to see, even raising the dead - those were practical feats that he performed. His pretty words would not have meant much without his deeds. It is what we do in this world that really counts.

    Make scarcity obsolete, and the changes will be mind-boggling. Again, if you want to see the best of our potential, and the practical side of it, I really don’t know of a better one than that little peek that Roads got:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    Again, they consciously chose love, and their material existence and relationship to nature and each other is something that almost nobody today can really wrap their minds around. As I have stated before, I encountered it after I went through the meat-grinder with Dennis, and my reaction was, “Ah, at least some people chose love and the light.” One day soon, I will put that entire account on the Future Earth thread, and I will also write of my imaginings of days in the lives of some of the people there. Again, when I encountered that account, it became a tip-of-the-iceberg experience for me, where I got a glimpse of it, and I began to think about the nuts-and-bolts of that civilization. They got it right. Their civilization was based on love, which also meant that they all had access to FE. Again, love and FE are joined at the hip in more than one way, in mystical and practical ways.

    On the practicality part, Roads was a farmer, so his experiences were full of the horse sense of somebody who had to work in the real world of energy, not somebody whose understanding of the energy situation was limited to flipping a switch to power his home and writing a check for that energy. Bruce Moen was an engineer:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

    So, again, his work has a practicality to it that a lot of New Age stuff does not.

    To your question if there can still be controllers in an FE-based society, the answer is likely yes, but truly free societies have FE. Scarcity is the lever of control that is used on the planet today (and has been for the entirety of civilization), and Godzilla and friends know that FE makes abundance feasible, and they will then lose their means of control. It is really about that simple. People are conditioned by scarcity from their cradles, and the vast majority cannot even imagine abundance, and until enough of us can, we won’t overcome the organized suppression and humanity’s inertia. Maybe the ETs will really help, and maybe they won’t. I think it is really up to us.

    Hi Limor:

    Nice photo.

    That brainwashing begins in our cradles in the USA, and it is the song of scarcity that we hear 24/7. I know from bitter experience that the scarcity paradigm is artificially enforced. The question can become why. Is it to just protect their niche in a world of scarcity? What I have found is that Godzilla is the master of ceremonies, but virtually everybody tunes in for the show. Godzilla is just the master of a game that virtually everybody plays, at one level or another. I am here to suggest a different game, the game of abundance. And it is rooted in practicality, but it really begins in our hearts and minds. If there is any value to the mystical stuff, it is that what we hold in our hearts and minds will manifest in the world around us. I am from the practical side of the house, however. Cars, bikes, houses, and civilizations don’t manifest out of the thin air, but people build them, for reasons, and not so little boys can have bikes delivered to their homes because they imagined it.

    Our entire physical reality is the manifestation of universal mind, and the mastery of this aspect of creation is our challenge, and it all begins in our hearts and between our ears.

    Well, news is trickling in about the Boston Marathon bombers, and maybe we won’t use it as an excuse to invade another nation:

    http://gma.yahoo.com/simple-boston-b...opstories.html

    and here is the part that I hope makes Americans think a little:

    “As to what drove Tamerlan to violence, his younger brother has apparently told investigators it was his hatred of America, and its policies in Afghanistan and Iraq, law enforcement sources said.”

    It has never been the stupid-isms of George Bush, where they “hate our freedom.”

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc

    Kill millions of people to steal their oil:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post652292

    and some people are going to get angry enough to do something about it. The Boston Marathon bombing is likely an instance of “blowback,” the kind that all the flag-waving in the world won’t banish.

    http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/suspe...024444535.html

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    The Marathon Bombing’s aftermath has been something to watch, from many angles. From the media calling Russia the new terror central, to the wacky conspiracist stuff, to the flag-waving of the masses, etc.

    To make my position clear, my life’s work was wiped out by what can legitimately be called a global conspiracy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

    and during that ordeal, one of the few people who helped me had inside information on JFK’s murder:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

    and after many years of study, his testimony holds up:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#assess

    and I have been seeing his testimony cited in more JFK works over the years. With knowing that Oswald was not a lone nut, several other assassinations in the succeeding generation have the whiff of similar activities. The USA is often compared to Rome, and since six Caesars in a row were taken out by conspiracies, it is very legitimate to wonder how many of our assassinations and attempts were conspiratorial in nature, and if there is any benefit to the Marathon Bombings on that score, it is at least that the term “false flag” is entering the vocabulary.

    But that does not lend legitimacy to every conspiratorial musing. I spent a long time looking into the moon landings, and they happened as advertised:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

    but the “we never landed on the moon” theories are still alive and well, as misinformation, disinformation, and the like is constantly recycled. I have been on the fringes of the conspiracist milieu periodically, and they can be very unbalanced:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

    My jury is still out on 9/11, and I have been seeing some of the same people get involved in JFK, the moon landings, 9/11, and now the Marathon Bombings, and I have to say that I have slowly lost respect for their work over the years, and in the wake of the Marathon Bombings, I have pretty much lost all respect for it.

    Was the Marathon Bombing a false flag event, or was it even staged, with no real victims being injured and killed? Where those two boys/men patsies? The evidence is extremely thin on the “it was all staged” angle, and the evidence for the rest is highly equivocal at this stage, and I would say extremely unlikely. But there is a blizzard of “analysis” of photos and other evidence in circulation right now that really gives conspiracy researchers a bad name. It is a three-ring circus right now.

    What is less equivocal is the media’s “analysis.” I have been treated to the usual imperial assumptions, and one gem was this article in the Christian Science Monitor:

    http://news.yahoo.com/boston-bombing...-politics.html

    I once subscribed to it, thinking that I was getting alternative media:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

    I had a lot to learn. The article had some real nuggets in it, such as:

    “President Putin’s regime itself engages in state terrorism against unarmed civilians.”

    Just like the USA does. But we call it “shock and awe” and other euphemisms.

    Another neat passage was:

    “Moscow is primarily responsible for fanning religious radicalism and violence through its brutal pacification programs in which entire villages have been targeted for repression and family members of suspected terrorists are kidnapped, tortured, and killed.”

    The USA actually created the Jihad phenomenon with its efforts in Afghanistan. Before Ralph McGehee was silenced:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#mcgehee

    he wrote about our operation in Afghanistan, and making fundamentalist Jihadists was one of its primary goals, even printing up tens of thousands of copies of the Koran, to distribute to our dupes.

    Another passage was:

    “Russian counter-terrorism has created the very enemy that Moscow was supposedly seeking to eliminate.”

    Just like the USA. There was zero “terrorism” in Iraq before we invaded them, to fight “terror.” We not only throw gasoline on the fire and call it firefighting, but we also start the fire.

    I don’t expect the media to discuss the oil situation and Chechnya, but it exists:

    http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Inte...onnection.html

    Just like the media could never seem to find any connection between Iraq’s oil and our reasons for invading. The Stalinist press could not have done “better.”

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    The Marathon Bombings are the biggest “terror” event in the USA since 9/11, and people like me would rather not have a front-row seat to the next imperial adventure that that event may be used as an excuse for. As I wrote from the beginning, a Russian/American “anti-terror” alliance could become a horrifying thing to behold, and we will see how it plays out. This morning’s news is ominous on that front:

    http://news.yahoo.com/putin-boston-b...101701441.html

    Since the USA invented al-Qaida more than thirty years ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski

    they have been used by the USA and its allies numerous times since then, such as with the Kosovo Liberation Army:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#terrorist

    the recent overthrow of Libya:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...afi#post659038

    and so on. They are called freedom fighters one day and terrorists the next, depending on their utility, and it is looking very much like the Marathon Bombings are at the very least another instance of blowback, if not an outright false flag operation. I am leaning toward blowback right now. The orgiastic flag wavers:

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/suspect...l?format=embed

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/suspect...l?format=embed

    will refuse to own even the smallest share of responsibility for these events, framing the entire exercise in Bush-ian “good-versus-evil” cartoon rhetoric. And they comprise the vast majority of Americans, I am very sorry to say. We really are a nation of children.

    OK, back to the world’s economic development. Europe’s rise in a world of scarcity meant the subjugation of the rest of the world. Again, economists have made the case that Europe did not really industrialize on the backs of the Third World, but that is misleading. Once Europe stole three continents, particularly North America, it was able to industrialize by plundering its own energy resources and people – sort of.

    We will start with England, and the benefits that it received from the conquered lands, and how it assisted its industrialization.


    1. As Carl Sauer noted, the ideology of wide-open spaces, begging to be peopled with “settlers,” came from those early days of European conquest: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#carl2 , but such expansion was really a permanent impoverishment of the world, although the exploiters received short-term benefits that were not sustainable.

    2. That ideology took root in England soon after the peasants had been kicked off the land, with Enclosure and Game laws https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ure#post651980 , and the “surplus” population had someplace to go. Using the dispossessed peasants to invade other peoples happened in England before the conquest of North America’s east coast, with the Ulster Plantation (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ter#post658651).

    3. Since England had already been deforested by its “progress,” Ireland’s forests came in handy for England to build its own version of history’s greatest energy-generation equipment until that time: the ocean-going sailing ship (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...wer#post596748 ).

    4. England had also benefitted from other energy technologies, such as the horse collar from China: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post655010 and the watermill invented by the Greeks, which spread during the High Middle Ages: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...lls#post621451 )

    5. The rise of science and reason had everything to do with the reintroduction of the Greek teachings to Europe when the Christian armies began to capture Islamic libraries (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo )

    6. Also, a new form of social organization that assisted the plunder effort was first used by England and the Netherlands: the corporation. Their English East India Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English...mpany#Founding ) was the first, with the Dutch right behind them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_E...ion_.281602.29 ) Europe’s conquest of the world led to the rise of the corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...d_mercantilism )

    7. The introduction of New World foods also led to a population explosion, as New World crops were highly superior to Old World crops, energy-wise. Northern Europe added the potato to its menu, and places such as Ireland and Russia came to subsist almost entirely on the potato (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ato#post653078 )

    8. The blood of the Western Hemisphere’s natives also began the money revolution in Western Europe, where all of that gold and silver poured in (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest ), which assisted the “exchange” that made corporations and other greed-based institutions more feasible.

    9. Without the energy of coal, however, the British Isles would have quickly become a denuded wasteland, just like all deforested lands eventually became over history. England was plundering further away for its wood, all the way to New England: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ast#post658651 ), before it industrialized.

    10. But once the energy of coal became exploited, it became the basis for England’s Industrial Revolution. Although they were not the first to do it, Brits learned to bake the impurities out of coal so that it could be used to smelt metal, iron most importantly (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...oke#post655010 ), and the Industrial Revolution was off to the races.

    11. At the same time that coal was used to smelt metal, that metal was used as a way to mine more coal, when the steam engine was invented (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...men#post624099 ) to remove water from coal mines that had dug below the water table. A few generations later, Watt’s engine was a great improvement, which really signaled the Industrial Revolution’s beginning.

    12. As I have stated, it was not an overnight event, and wind and water power actually stayed competitive with coal until well into the 1800s (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ips#post624099 ), but by the last half of the 1900s, steam power was ascendant over wind for ships and water for mills, and railroads were crisscrossing the continents, for ease of transportation in the imperial lands, and for ease of exploitation in the colonial lands (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ads#post661499 ). In 1859, the Americans drilled the first oil well, and within a few generations, the USA became the world’s leading industrial power by far (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post660425 ), and by far history’s richest and most powerful nation.

    13. The fate of the Middle East was sealed when the greatest energy resource of all, oil, was discovered in their lands (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...led#post651262 ), and everything that happens there today, as far as what white people are doing there, is all about the oil, with everything else a sideshow.

    14. Although once the colonial era largely ended with the “grand finale” (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#finale ) of World War II, preventing the Third World from industrializing has been a predilection of the West for a long time, as it became obvious that there was only so much hydrocarbon energy to go around. The obliteration of Iraq as a nation is part of that program. If the USA and friends can turn Iraq, Iran, and vicinity into a big oil pump, and we turn those peoples back into a bunch of impoverished camel jockeys, goatherds, and subsistence farmers, we will have our game well in hand. The intentional destruction of all of Iraq’s institutions, except for the oil ministry, laid that strategy out very plainly for anybody with eyes to see. The effort has largely been successful. Iraq went from having the highest standard of living among Arab nations, and its most secular, with no “terrorists” operating there, to one of the world’s most miserable nations, with its infrastructure in rubble, with daily bombings, and its oil has effectively been privatized and controlled by foreign interests (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading ), which was the plan all along. That Americans are unhappy with our Iraqi adventure, because the conquest was not as easy as advertised, really does not matter all that much to the people planning those operations. And Godzilla looks on and laughs. As long as everybody fights over the dwindling hydrocarbons, he has the big game well in hand, and so far, humanity has blindly obliged him.

    15. With the rise of England over its rivals, due to its industrialization, ideological and social inventions were used to assist its dominance. One was culling the herd in the homeland. Anybody who resisted the program of dispossessing the peasants and turning them into factory workers was shipped off as “criminals,” first to Georgia, and after the American Revolution, to Australia (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...lia#post659261), where they became involuntary “settlers.”

    16. Another social project that justified the rising economic order was the great labors of the classical economists who put a happy face on it, with the invention of capitalism as an ideology, but it was not until Karl Marx that it was given that name. The classical economists used similar means as today’s media does, by their lies of omission (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big ), as they glossed over the brutal aspect of capitalism’s early days, as dispossessed peasants were forced into the factories after their means of subsistence was violently taken from them (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...man#post660765 ).

    17. Ever since the English Civil Wars of the 1600s, the monarchy lost its ability to rule its subjects by brute force, and the science of manipulating the public’s mind began its ascent since then. The classical economists were modern-day Court historians, justifying the position of the elite, which became less about royalty and more about the capitalists. The English colonies of North America learned those lessons, and from the very beginning, controlling the press by private means became the modus operandi, such as when the only newspaper that reported on the illegal Constitutional Convention was bought out and silenced (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#herald ).

    18. The art of manipulating the public’s mind became a science in the twentieth century, with the rise of the public relations industry (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#gatto ), flag-worship (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag ) and so on.


    By World War I, which was really about rights of plunder for the Europeans, the English, French, and Americans had already gobbled up nearly the entire planet, and latecomers such as the Germans only wanted their fair share of the plunder. That conflict was not resolved until 1945, when Germany and Japan were put in their places, and then the USA spent the next several decades preventing the world’s peoples from truly becoming free of their white overlords. Anti-communist ideology became the new religion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#commie ), and when the commie threat ended (it was always primarily an economic threat, where the world's peoples would no longer be enslaved by the West (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/mcgehee.htm#intelligence ), then it became drug dealers for a time, although the CIA has long been among the world’s primary drug runners, to fund its evil deeds, so nobody needs to think that the “war on drugs” will end anytime soon, even with the decapitation frenzy in Mexico these days. Today, the preferred bogeyman is the “terrorist,” just as George Orwell predicted long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#orwell

    and mindless flag-waving is an integral part of the program, also as Orwell predicted. We just have a new kind of fascism in the USA, with flags and bibles being the mode of conditioning, as people predicted long ago:

    Sinclair Lewis was misattributed:

    http://technoccult.net/archives/2010...aving-a-cross/

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sinclai...#Misattributed

    but it was the gist of his writings of the time:

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Sinclair_Lewis

    as it was for others.

    Fascism was quite the up-and-coming political-economic ideology in those days:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#brown

    What we see today would have been no surprise to those “visionaries.” The USA and friends can probably buy many more years of the “war on terror” rubric, but when that begins to wear thin, then it will be the ET threat. TPTB have been doing their best to keep the ET situation under wraps, because they know it will mean the end of their reign, and not because the ETs will become the new overlords, but because they arrived here via technology that can end the era of scarcity on Earth, and if people were truly living in abundance, it would be game over for Godzilla, and he knows it. If the ETs are ever officially acknowledged, the ultimate false flag operation is planned, to stage an alien “invasion,” a la The War of the Worlds, so the world’s masses huddle under the “protection” of Godzilla and his lackeys. But Godzilla knows that that game will be incredibly difficult to pull off, partly because the ETs by and large do not have hostile intent, and if Godzilla even allows the ET presence to be officially acknowledged, then the ETs will have been freed to openly interact with humanity. Then it will become evident that they mean no harm, and their goodies like FE and antigravity (and most of “our” technology on that score came from reverse-engineering “captured” ET craft (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground )) will quickly be seen as having the potential to take humanity into a new era that leaves behind scarcity, environmental devastation, genocide, and the rest of the human circus as relics of history, and then a world like this:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    begins to come into view. And have no doubt about it; that is what Godzilla fears more than anything else, because he would no longer be in charge.

    This narrative on energy and the human journey, in all of its many facets, began back in July:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post518761

    and I will be finishing it in the next week or so, and then it will be off to write that big essay, which will be a more concerted effort, distilling what my readers have been digesting since July. This thread since July has largely been an outline of my upcoming essay, so it has been good for me, too, to do this. It will make writing the essay an easier task, and you will see me summarize this thread since July on my site, in what will kind of be a formal outline of my upcoming essay. The meat is mostly all there, if the student is serious about developing a comprehensive perspective. It is not all armchair stuff by any means, and my recent interaction with Ilie and how growing up on a farm helped developed his growing comprehensive perspective:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post663503

    highlights one way that people can get their “boots on the ground” in developing their own comprehensive perspective. I give my prescriptions for it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    but we all have to do the work. As I have stated many times, being in the choir will be hard work, and people such as Ilie, Darren, and others at Avalon have been doing their homework. That is all I can ask, and when I have seen them do that, it gave me feedback that my choir idea just might have a chance, but the hard work will be for aspiring choir members to digest the material that I have been putting on this thread since July and make it their song, not just parroting something that I put out there. Until it becomes the song of each of us (and we will each bring our particular flavor to it, which is a vital part to making this work), we will not be able to hit the notes in harmony. I spent a lifetime on my odyssey, to get where I am, and what I am trying to do is get people such as Ilie there a lot faster. It really is a race between education and catastrophe, as Bucky said:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    We will see how it goes.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I used to read Jeff Rense’s site fairly regularly, especially in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Rense interviewed Dennis and Brian back then on his show. I am trying to remember why or how, but I was once in contact with a few of the regular writers on Rense’s site. But the Rense site could be a real circus, and any serious reader will quickly winnow out various authors and topics. There is an anti-Semitic bent to some work on Rense, and many of them go down the rabbit holes and live there forever after.

    But when I want to read the latest on Fukushima, for instance, I go to Rense, but I don’t visit the site very often. But when events such as the Marathon Bombings happen, the latest alternative perspective can be found at Rense, usually from the conspiracist side of the house, but not always. I visited yesterday, and saw a review of Greer’s Sirius movie, but the headline was negative:

    http://www.theufochronicles.com/2013...reers-ufo.html

    I figured it was some UFO enthusiast who did not like the movie. So I began reading, and was surprised at how unprofessional the reviewer was, with an “Excuse me while I barf” phrase near the beginning of the article. Then he linked to a Skeptical Inquirer article to debunk one of Greer’s more compelling UFO witnesses:

    http://www.csicop.org/si/show/buzzin...y_flies_again/

    Then I did a little surfing and found this by Robert Hastings, which takes on the debunkers of that witness:

    http://www.ufohastings.com/articles/...mation#note_17

    Then I went back to that movie review and read the reviewer’s name, and kind of hit my forehead. Robert Sheaffer is one of the most rabid “skeptics” out there. I am really surprised to see Rense post something from a CSICOP stalwart. I’ll have to be far more careful than I already am in reading stuff like Rense’s site. But the reason I am making this post is that article that took on that debunkers of that UFO incident. While reading that article many memories came streaming back, few of them pleasant.

    I began to study the “skeptics” more than twenty years ago, and they sure seemed narrow-minded. I also kept seeing instances of their alleged dishonesty, but it was not until I got slimed by one of their own that it really hit home who those people are:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

    and Mr. Skeptic is quite the media darling, and he just makes up new lies as his old ones are exposed.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post410817

    That he has not been drummed out of the “skeptical” societies says a lot about them.

    But what drove me to write about that article were Hastings’s encounters with the UFO debunkers. I know the names, and here I will relate some anecdotes that I have not done publicly before.

    You will see some of the same names in my UFO writings and that article:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#big

    and I encountered one of the biggest names in UFO debunkery myself while I was doing Brian’s biographical work. He actually helped me contact the astronaut corps to get Brian’s NASA bio published:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post267098

    so he gets some points there, but after the bio was published, he enlisted a NASA historian to debunk Brian’s Martian credentials. Then I asked Brian for some ammo to defend ourselves with if they really went after Brian, and he gave me the anecdotes on Shepard and von Braun that made it into this section:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#mars

    I was actually surprised at how unread the historian and debunker were. Brian published The Making of an Ex-Astronaut in 1970, which won awards, and those questions from his astronaut interview were in there. It is widely known that Brian was the only planetary scientist in the astronaut corps during the Apollo program:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm#planetary

    The ignorance of the debunker and the historian were a little shocking for me, being such NASA bulwarks that they were. The debunker also made some snide comments about Brian to me in our exchanges. I never shared them with Brian. I had already seen the slimy behavior of Mr. Skeptic and friends, but these were big name players, not some “amateur” like Mr. Skeptic, and I somehow expected better of them. But it was the same kind of behavior that Hastings noted in his article. I admit that Sheaffer’s shtick is further out there, at Mr. Skeptic’s level of professionalism, but I expected a little better from that NASA debunker. Brian died not long afterward, and that debunker actually had kind of a black eulogy for him.

    As Brian’s books have made clear, he was not a good fit for NASA. Better candidates were passed over, but Brian was the Mars expert and von Braun had a chance to see his Martian dreams come true. But that has not justified the treatment that Brian received over the years.

    When I had those exchanges with that famous astronaut, the astronaut corps itself was not aware that Brian did not have a bio at NASA. They treated me far better than I expected, and infinitely better than the debunkers have. And I have found that to be true in several areas. While the government and media have attacked Dennis endlessly over the years, with people like Mr. Skeptic sicced on him, with the public laughing and people like my mother making scrap books of the lying newspaper articles:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post400492

    Godzilla has taken Dennis very seriously since the 1980s, and Dennis was one of the greatest threats to Godzilla’s game. While Brian was cast from the citadel, when he got involved in the UFO issue, the military tried to kill him:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack

    while the “skeptics” scoff and pour forth their derision. I have seen the toll that such treatment has taken out of people like Dennis and Brian, and I can only imagine what Greer has had to put up with, murder attempts aside:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

    while the Sheaffers of the world purvey their snide attitude. Whether Sheaffer is on the payroll or not is kind of irrelevant, as I discovered during my days with Dennis. The free-lance a***oles act just like the professionals do. It is not easy to tell them apart, and I doubt that it is even very important to do so.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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