Sirius documentary review

[BrianEn]

Nothing new for the likes of us at all. Nice film for someone watching for the first. The hype was a little much. Still for me the only attraction was the dna testing on that small corpse. That's something for me to follow. I spent the tenner on the premiere and wondered if I was the first to fall asleep during the evening. I don't think that I was. So I was glad to have to days but have since watched it on you tube.

[Carmody]

Regarding ancient Hindu texts and weapons:

You can go and dig in the areas where the supposed high power devices where apparently used...and you will apparently find a carbonized and radioactive layer in the soil, a layer that corresponds to the supposed dates of the use of these 'weapons'.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Regarding ancient Hindu texts and weapons:

You can go and dig in the areas where the supposed high power devices where apparently used...and you will apparently find a carbonized and radioactive layer in the soil, a layer that corresponds to the supposed dates of the use of these 'weapons'.

Yes, I´m quite aware of it.

However, the same phenomena, such as those vitrified and slightly radioactive soil and rocks, is reported in many locations in the world as well, and it´s mostly connected to meteor impacts.

So, using Occam´s Razor; What´s more likely to have happened? A nuclear device explosion, given the fact that there´s no archaeological or circumstantial evidence pointing that such technology existed back then; Or a meteor impact that could have happened tens of even hundreds of thousands years ago?

In fact, the description commonly used to explain such allegedly event comes from a French book called “Morning of the Magicians”, not the Mahabharata itself.

The book “Morning of the Magicians” says:

Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana [fast aircraft],
hurled a single projectile [rocket]
charged with the power of the Universe [nuclear device].

An incandescent column of smoke and flame,
as bright as ten thousand suns,
rose with all its splendour.

It was an unknown weapon,
an iron thunderbolt,
a gigantic messenger of death,
which reduced to ashes
the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

The corpses were so burned
as to be unrecognizable.

Hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
and the birds turned white.

…After a few hours
all foodstuffs were infected…
…to escape from this fire
the soldiers threw themselves in streams
to wash themselves and their equipment.

However, what the Mahabharata actually says is:

Gratified with him, the holy one then showed Utanka that eternal Vaishnava form which Dhananjaya of great intelligence had seen. Utanka beheld the high-souled Vasudeva of universal form, endued with mighty-arms. The effulgence of that form was like that of a blazing fire or a thousand suns. It stood before him filling all space. It had faces on every side. Behold the high and wonderful Vaishnava form of Vishnu. In fact, seeing the Supreme Lord in that guise, the Brahmana Utanka became filled with wonder."

So, in fact, people who defend the ancient nuclear bombs idea should actually check their sources, instead of regurgitating the same disinformation over and over again. They have repeated this passage from “Morning of the Magicians” so many times that they actually ended up believing that it actually belongs to the Mahabharata.

Anyway, there´s a nice Ancient Aliens Debunked video about this. I recommend watching it:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K9ed_hWZnl8

[Earth Angel]

hey while we are tearing it apart lets not forget David Wilcock's Shirt!!! ....... I enjoyed the movie, yes it was lacking in anything new for people who have researched this subject but still think it was worth watching, funding and paying to view

[Hervé]

Being unable to envision and seriously consider nuclear wars and blasts "that far back in time," most scientists fall back to possiblities they know of: volcanic eruptions and/or meteor bombardments...

However, the occurrence of "Green Glass" all over the planet, through the same reasoning of an "impossibility" of atomic explosions "that far back in time" leaves scientists to substantiate the only possible and plausible solution left to them through academia's canons of sanity: meteoritic air bursts and bombardments.

Otherwise, one would have to seriously consider that "we" are not alone and have never been... which is another serious challenge to anyone's dogmatic sanity.

See this post <--- and this post <---

[RMorgan]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Being unable to envision and seriously consider nuclear wars and blasts "that far back in time," most scientists fall back to possiblities they know of: volcanic eruptions and/or meteor bombardments...

However, the occurrence of "Green Glass" all over the planet, through the same reasoning of an "impossibility" of atomic explosions "that far back in time" leaves scientists to substantiate the only possible and plausible solution left to them through academia's canons of sanity: meteoritic air bursts and bombardments.

Otherwise, one would have to seriously consider that "we" are not alone and have never been... which is another serious challenge to anyone's dogmatic sanity.

See this post <--- and this post <---

Well, in the lack of better, or any evidence indicating that artificial nuclear explosions happened in this planet before the twentieth century, I must say I´d rather support the scientific point of view.

It´s worthy remembering that meteor blasts can be thousands of times stronger than nuclear weapons and, knowing that big meteors had hit Earth numerous times in the past, I tend to agree that ancient "trinitite" was indeed caused by them.

Anyway, it doesn´t mean I don´t believe in ET presence, current or ancient. I do believe it. I just have no reason to believe that artificial nuclear blasts happened in the past.

This is an interesting subject, but quite controversial. My opinion regarding it being present in the Sirius documentary, is that they should have avoided to talk about such controversial issues that may open space for skepticism. The whole part about the alleged Mahabharata nuclear explosion is totally untrue.

Raf.

[jagman]

I honestly have to say i fell asleep half way through the movie lol I was sick yesterday but my honest opinion of Sirius movie was
from start to finish it was shameless self promotion of Dr. Greer.

[danimyl]

I'm relieved that Greer has so successfully wounded his credibility so I don't have to work so hard explaining the lunacy of the CE-5 premise. The only correct stance regarding foreign visitation is extreme caution and defense. Perceptions of benevolence/malevolence/opportunism really don't even matter when you're talking about the logical stance that humanity should be taking about guarding its borders from forces it can't possibly understand from its position.

[HaveBlue]

Sirius torrent:

http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=32681

A well timed build up to Stephen Bassetts' event next week.

[Youniverse]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

I would post a link to the documentary, but it seems they have removed it from youtube for copyright issues.

I was lucky to watch it for free before it was removed, but if you haven´t seen it yet, you can watch it for U$9.99 on their website.

Anyway, here´s is my opinion about the documentary. It may contain spoilers.

Overall, it is a well produced documentary for the general public. For us, who have been investigating such subjects for a long time, there is really nothing new.

The first thing I disliked about it is that it started by talking about Hindu mythology, and how it may indicate that nuclear warfare may have happened thousands of years ago.

Well, in my opinion, if they want to deal with such subject seriously, they should have stick to science and facts, not mythology. Interpreting religious symbolism and myths as historic facts is kind of starting with the wrong foot for an allegedly science based documentary.

Also, right in the begining, they briefly talked about UFOs in art, which is a very controversial subject. All image examples showed in the documentary regarding this specific subject were already cohesively refuted.

The above issues could, and should, be left out of the documentary, since they open space for discrediting. In fact, such information doesn´t really add to the film at all, so there´s really no reason for it to be part of the film in the first place.

If you are a veteran truth seeker, like I am, you will find a numerous amount of clips and interviews taken from other previously released documentaries; Since this film targets the main public, this is not bad, but at least for me it felt like there was a lot of copy/paste material.

Another thing that slightly bothered me is that a big part of the film is very focused on Greer himself. I got the feeling that it should be called Greer movie instead of Sirius. I know, he deserves recognition, but I think the overall result would be better if they had focused on the real information, not in Greer´s life story.

Regarding the title, Sirius, I felt like it has got a bit meaningless, since there´s no reference to Sirius or the Canis Major constellation in the movie whatsoever.

As a side note, and I know this is controversial, I didn´t like David Wilcock being part of the documentary. First, because his presence was not really needed; He spoke about issues that any other person could talk about, not about his personal research data. He didn´t bring nothing special to the table. Second, because his credibility is highly compromised by now. He doesn´t add to the film at all, but opens space for skepticism. Anyway, we know how he´s skilled in managing to always find a place under the spotlight.

Finally, the "alien" body examination, which seemed to be the major card in this movie, was highly inconclusive. After all the DNA analyses, they have concluded that the DNA is human, although leaving margin for some unanswered questions regarding his genetic characteristics. They end up saying that it may be a deformed human, or it may be an alien...In other words; totally inconclusive.

Overall, I would rate this movie as 6.8, in a 10 scale. It´s really interesting for the main public and new truth seekers, but there´s absolutely nothing groundbreaking as they have promised.

Regarding other previous Greer´s productions, The Disclosure Project wins hands down. I still consider it to be the apex of his career.

Personally, I didn´t have higher expectations regarding this documentary, so I was not disappointed. I know how marketing works so I don´t fall for marketing hypes. However, for those who were expecting groundbreaking news from this movie, I would say it totally fails to deliver.

Anyway, I would still recommend it to friends and other people who are not veteran truth seekers like us. What isn´t new for us may be an eye opener for them.

So, how about you? What are your impressions of Sirius?

Cheers,

Raf.

How do you know for sure what's JUST mythology and what's rooted in historical facts? I haven't seen "Sirius" yet so I can't comment on it's content. I suspect it is as many of you have labeled it as, directed to a broad audience of fence-sitters and skeptics. Though getting the word out is a good thing because it can draw more people into doing independant research and getting more involved.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Silo (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
It'll do what it was intended to do.....which is to fill Greer's pockets with a bunch of Ben Franklin's (and some of his buddies pockets too).

I'm not bothered by people making some money......I know what it takes and I could sell my soul if I wanted to.

He seems to be genuine about wanting to change the world for the better no matter his angle.....


10 bucks is nothing.....

If he wanted to make a lot of money, he could still be practicing medicine. He has talked about what he wants to do with the proceeds. He wants to set up a very serious lab where people can build "free energy"/overunity devices, and have the whole thing broadcast on the web so people can watch and they'll have private security and all that, that way TPTB can't bust it up and stop what they are doing. Good idea, I think.

[Youniverse]

Posted by danimyl (here)
I'm relieved that Greer has so successfully wounded his credibility so I don't have to work so hard explaining the lunacy of the CE-5 premise. The only correct stance regarding foreign visitation is extreme caution and defense. Perceptions of benevolence/malevolence/opportunism really don't even matter when you're talking about the logical stance that humanity should be taking about guarding its borders from forces it can't possibly understand from its position.

Yeah like we've 'defended our borders' so wisely in the recent past. There are many things that we have a choice regarding. Then there are things that just ARE and we can either work with it and have faith or we engage in destructive behaviour. Regarding ET visitations to the Earth, I would say that there have probably been many, many 'positive' ones in the past and they continue on today. Some of us continue using the old dualistic analogy that there always has to be bad guys and good guys and that we are far more likely to end up in the Aztecs meet the Spaniards type of scenario. If some malevolent reptilian ET race has indeed enslaved us for millenia, then how much worse can things get short of an all-out doomsday scenario?

I would guess that any ET civilization so advanced that it can come from light years away to visit us, is probably more than capable of getting around any kind of defenses we put up. We're probably like ducks in a pond that way. So forget the defenses discussion. And when logic fails us, and it will, then what? That's where faith comes in.

[Flowerpunkchip]

Ok, just watched the movie... not impressed with the pop video at the end, and yes, there is some Greer self promotion but f*** all the criticism I hear.
This film is not for us believers and for people who think outside the box, it's for the unbelievers.
Yes, he's probably wrong about nuclear weapons used in the past, and probably wrong that all aliens are peaceful. (I think most of them are) but please give Greer some credit and ask people to watch the movie freely on the internet. Please help for disclosure by at least talking about it to your neighbours, friends and family.

If I was someone who knew nothing about this stuff, I would give the movie 5 stars.

[Youniverse]

Posted by Flowerpunkchip (here)
Ok, just watched the movie... not impressed with the pop video at the end, and yes, there is some Greer self promotion but f*** all the criticism I hear.
This film is not for us believers and for people who think outside the box, it's for the unbelievers.
Yes, he's probably wrong about nuclear weapons used in the past, and probably wrong that all aliens are peaceful. (I think most of them are) but please give Greer some credit and ask people to watch the movie freely on the internet. Please help for disclosure by at least talking about it to your neighbours, friends and family.

If I was someone who knew nothing about this stuff, I would give the movie 5 stars.

And the people that criticize Greer or Wilcock or anyone else for egotism just maybe need to do a little closer looking into their own egos. Often when we criticize others it is that part of ourselves that we are trying to come to terms with. Maybe Greer has a big ego(and Wilcock for that matter), but look at the bigger picture of what these folks are contributing. And none of us are free of parts of our personalities that need some work.

[lunaflare]

Good review, RM
I was thankful to watch the movie, gratis, courtesy of Wolf Spirit Radio (downloaded as mp4 in 2013 archive section).
I skipped chunks
My mind was not stretched nor engaged but I am not one who needs convincing that dimensional beings exist.
It is better for the movie to be made than NOT to be made as surely the subject matter serves as seeds: to think/see/feel beyond the earthly lens; to look up at the night sky with a sense of wonder, to ask questions...

As posted by many, nothing was conclusive.
And why, "Sirius" the title?

Yet time and effort was placed into this project and I commend the contribution.

Admittedly, I was interested in the fashion choices of D. Wilcock (medieval) and curious about Dr Greer's muscle tone as he was rather skinny as a newbie M.D.
Call me superficial, but these are my lasting impressions.

[ArtyCarl]

I really think they missed the boat with this one. Whatever your personal view of Dr Greer, he has at least some credibility because of his previous senior medical career and this could have been handled much much better.

Stick to the facts as much as possible, no mumbo jumbo and leave the audience with the possibility that this could be extraterrestrial....make it thought provoking. Instead it is an advert for Dr Greer and does very little to further this story.

Shame.

[David Hughes]

Hey,

Just watched it.

Too much focus on that little alien side show. I waited until 1h 37m in before I heard Greer talk about what FE can mean for humanity and this planet and then he stops abruptly - after about 10 seconds! No discussion about our addiction to scarcity, nothing about what becomes obsolete with FE technology and why it would become obsolete, no discussion about understanding how energy runs the whole show from scientific and economic perspectives, and no detailed talk about how in a world where we responsibly use free energy, healing the planet and living in abundance become not only possible but probable.

And why focus our consciousness and meditate on UFO's coming into sight anyway? What's the point of that? So we can marvel at the power of our collective intent? How does that help a free energy based society to manifest?

For me the subject matter needs Parts 2, 3, 4, 5 ect, exploring the above issues in much greater detail as Wade is doing on his thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Planet/page143,

Ilie has been doing on his:

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...by-Free-Energy

and also on this thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...A-Future-Earth

You can never hope to comprehensively cover the most important issue on our planet today in under 2 hours.

[ulli]

Here is a work list for all who are overly critical:
1 ) Realize that focusing on flaws reveals Western mind programming,
as it creates divisiveness...the exact opposite of strength in unity.
2 ) check out if you are not projecting....usually what one finds most irritating in others
is the exact unresolved area of one's own ego.
3 ) Expecting stuff that is not delivered means you are still desire driven...check your appreciation and gratitude quotient.
4 ) go out and make a better movie, since public funding is now within reach it should be an easy feat.

[InCiDeR]

By they way, weren't the footage of the Ufo over Jerusalem’s Dome of the Rock debunked?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uKR1OIQFsFg

Maybe Greer knows something that I don't! In that case he should spell it out, otherwise will that sequence lower the credibility and be an easy way for the skeptics to sneak in.

[RMorgan]

Posted by ulli (here)
Here is a work list for all who are overly critical:
1 ) Realize that focusing on flaws reveals Western mind programming,
as it creates divisiveness...the exact opposite of strength in unity.
2 ) check out if you are not projecting....usually what one finds most irritating in others
is the exact unresolved area of one's own ego.
3 ) Expecting stuff that is not delivered means you are still desire driven...check your appreciation and gratitude quotient.
4 ) go out and make a better movie, since public funding is now within reach it should be an easy feat.

Hey Ulli,

I understand your observations.

I must admit; I am overly critical, specially with myself. I´ve been working on that along the years.

However, I consider my analyses of the movie fair, specially the 6.8 rating I gave to it. If I was really listening to my critical devil, I would give it a 5.

Have in mind, that the producers are responsible for the overall bad criticism regarding the movie. Remember that they´ve been marketing the movie as "groundbreaking", as something that would cause a revolution; They have promised something and couldn´t deliver. The expectations were too high for most people, motivated by the excessively exaggerated marketing campaign.

If I´m not mistaken, I believe you´ve worked on the advertising industry for a while, right? So you know how advertising can backfire if it overly extrapolates the limits of honesty.

The only argument of yours that I disagree is #4; This is a common argument used against criticism, but a flawed one. Every consumer product, including movies, targets an audience, and the audience has the right to accept or not, like or not, criticize positively or negatively. One doesn´t need to be a painter to criticize a painting, nor a musician to criticize music, nor a mechanic to criticize a car, and so on.

Anyway, my professional opinion as a marketing specialist, is that they have committed a serious mistake regarding the choice of their target audience. The movie itself falls into a grey area; It doesn´t offer enough complete information to satisfy the skeptics and the general public, nor offer new information to satisfy veteran truth seekers. Generally, they have made a quick summary of a lot of subjects without actually focusing on anything deeply.

My opinion didn´t change, and, of course, you are rightfully entitled to have yours.

Cheers,

Raf.