The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[Eram]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by Eram (here)
We were the only ones present and it felt as if it was our duty to see if we could be of any assistance.
The idea of what I might find there horrified me though and I decided to flee the scene and wait for others to do the rescue work etc.
...
It seems that there is something with me and fear of helping people in need in my dreams?

You're right, the dreams are definitely saying that in your life right now you could in some way help others in their lives much more.

It also looks like the dreams are saying you need to stop being unwilling to face conflict [big car crashes], and some other unpleasant or degraded people or situations. I guess that also means you have some fear of your own dark side, because if you can face it inside yourself, you'll have no problem facing it outside you if it comes up.

I wonder whether perhaps you have been repressing all anger inside yourself?

That makes much sense to me TH,

Thanks!

Actually it is the focus point of my life at the moment to change my attitude towards conflict, which has always been something that I stayed away from as much as I could (except for rare occasions).
I guess I'm a school example of the Libra sign as far as this is concerned.

I wonder whether perhaps you have been repressing all anger inside yourself?

It must be so, but I tend to be confused about the subject to some extend.
I mean.... when I try to get clarity in this, I get confused as if the ego structure is very hard trying to prevent clarity to happen.

My father certainly has anger repressing issues and my mother is an emotional volcano with loads of angry eruptions, so from child on, I choose the "safe" way and learned to repress anger, or at least don't use anger as it is supposed to.
My father and me both have liver issues, which is also an indication to repressed anger imo.

I do get angry, but that is more when I am frustrated and getting angry feels like the only option left to get my way.
That is not healthy (for any one involved) and not what is unsuppressed anger is about isn't it?

Is there any one who could recommend a book about this subject?
Not only a book that explains about healthy anger, but more so that gives instructions to get there (to become someone who doesn't repress it) after one has lived half a lifetime of repressing anger.

I believe this is the one of the chore issues that are between me and HS at the moment and the ego uses this as it's strongest base to stay in charge.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Eram (here)
My father certainly has anger repressing issues and my mother is an emotional volcano with loads of angry eruptions, so from child on, I choose the "safe" way and learned to repress anger, or at least don't use anger as it is supposed to.
My father and me both have liver issues, which is also an indication to repressed anger imo.

I do get angry, but that is more when I am frustrated and getting angry feels like the only option left to get my way.
That is not healthy (for any one involved) and not what is unsuppressed anger is about isn't it?

Is there any one who could recommend a book about this subject?
Not only a book that explains about healthy anger, but more so that gives instructions to get there (to become someone who doesn't repress it) after one has lived half a lifetime of repressing anger.

For learning how to gain proper mastery of your repressed anger at a deep, inner level, we’re talking about psychotherapy or intensive energy work or whatever equivalent of it you use to dissolve the hold your ego has on you. A "how to" book may help to some extent, but you can't get there by using intellectual means.

Resolving all of one’s anger issues typically takes a long time. I guess you would have the big advantage of being able to listen to what the HS is telling you in your dreams – provided you keep listening. That could accelerate your progress hugely.

It sounds like some of the biggest traumas in your life involve issues of you repressing anger. Consequently, you could deal with those specific traumatic incidents, or traumatic elements of your being parented, fully in some form of psychotherapy or its equivalent. That would go a long way to achieving the wider goal of overcoming the repression.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Swan (here)

Posted by Eram (here)
Not sure if I am in a position to add something of value here, because my initial contact with HS as I perceived it has faded away somewhat in the last weeks, but what I remember of it, was a feeling of not being alone any more.
Through my back or backside of my body, I felt connected with ... well... HS I think.
The feeling of not being alone was as real as if I was with some one else there.

Also, the feeling of being separated was sort of gone.
It was there still when perceived from looking out of my eyes, watching the 3D world around me, but inward looking, I could feel the oneness of it all.

This is how I feel the connection to source / HS / too. Through the back of my body.

Just need to keep reminding myself to connect, instead of becoming caught up in fear.

I guess both of you are close to bulls-eyes on the two indicators I was still looking for someone to identify. I would prefer to say you feel "the energy" of the HS. One such indicator is feeling extra energy, considerably greater than what you have without the HS. And it feels so ... enlivening, I would say. It also feels powerful, which is why I've sometimes been referring to the HS as the Force.

And yes, I would say that at least some of the time when the HS is present you would be aware of greater physical energy coming through your back. Even though it's more powerful, it's also more subtle.

And Eram, you got the other indicator as well: a strong feeling of oneness. Actually I'd prefer to have heard someone say a profoundly strong feeling of knowing they are free in the most extreme and powerful and absolute sense -- though I guess that usually comes considerably later. It grows out of the oneness and the peace.

Maybe both you guys are much more in touch with your HS than you think?

[Swan]

Hi TH,

My experience of connectedness, is one of bliss, and oneness. I can find my way there pretty easily when I am alone. Just have a harder time staying there when interacting with others.

I would say, that when I am solely in 3D my focus seems to be in the front of my body. When I connect, the energy is behind me. These are just my experiences. Might not be the same for others.

[OOO]

I know when I am connected to my HS I feel deep peace.
However, I still don't understand why, when I connect
with Source or try to feel It I cry and have such sadness.
I have felt my limitless self and that is a wonderful
experience, but anything with Source/God evokes almost
a pain. Why?

Also, my experience a few months ago left be baffled.
I was meditating and an image of a reptilian head showed
itself and I felt it birth/exit my body slithering through my
legs and into the earth. It left a slimy film as it left. It was
followed by a snake who hissed, jaws open. The snake
tried to test me if I was afraid, but I understood that its a
friend. In an instant the snake started to twirl through my
body and secured itself in my head.

Any insights?
Thank you.

[soleil]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
I’ve recently mentioned that I’m kind of waiting for some members to identify what are the indicators that the HS is really there, when it is there for you (in your conscious). I would say there are about four such different indicators, and so far contributors have come up with about two-and-a-half.

However, one of these indicators was in a way only mentioned in passing by AwakeInADream over a month ago. His description of how he came by it was hard for me to follow, and then he said he hadn’t been able to repeat that experience. However, the “indicator” quality of the HS that he mentioned was a feeling of what he called “extension” – or maybe, I guess, that could be called a feeling of “wideness” or “vastness”. At any rate, he hit a bulls-eye in identifying one of the four indicators which I would wish for all of you to become familiar with in the near future. Can you learn to feel, at least sometimes, that you are truly, actually vast inside, in your true nature? Can you kind of walk around carrying that with you?

I suspect he found it by proper use of the imagination – which, let me say again, is a valid way of discovering parts of the truth, if done in a grounded or calm way.

I’m still waiting to hear someone mention one-and-a-half of the indicators, or one more at least. If you can focus on what’s truly wonderful about the HS, they should come to you. I’m not asking you to think, but to look, to experience. I’ll be writing some more shortly to hopefully point you in roughly the right directions.

i'm going out on a limb here, but my intuition is telling me that the HS experience is also a feeling of 'effortless', life is fun to live, and it is easy to do the things you love to do....am i on to something?

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
i'm going out on a limb here, but my intuition is telling me that the HS experience is also a feeling of 'effortless', life is fun to live, and it is easy to do the things you love to do....am i on to something?

Yes, that's true. You might like to look at post #119.

[soleil]

Posted by Eram (here)

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by Eram (here)
We were the only ones present and it felt as if it was our duty to see if we could be of any assistance.
The idea of what I might find there horrified me though and I decided to flee the scene and wait for others to do the rescue work etc.
...
It seems that there is something with me and fear of helping people in need in my dreams?

You're right, the dreams are definitely saying that in your life right now you could in some way help others in their lives much more.

It also looks like the dreams are saying you need to stop being unwilling to face conflict [big car crashes], and some other unpleasant or degraded people or situations. I guess that also means you have some fear of your own dark side, because if you can face it inside yourself, you'll have no problem facing it outside you if it comes up.

I wonder whether perhaps you have been repressing all anger inside yourself?

That makes much sense to me TH,

Thanks!

Actually it is the focus point of my life at the moment to change my attitude towards conflict, which has always been something that I stayed away from as much as I could (except for rare occasions).
I guess I'm a school example of the Libra sign as far as this is concerned.

I wonder whether perhaps you have been repressing all anger inside yourself?

It must be so, but I tend to be confused about the subject to some extend.
I mean.... when I try to get clarity in this, I get confused as if the ego structure is very hard trying to prevent clarity to happen.

My father certainly has anger repressing issues and my mother is an emotional volcano with loads of angry eruptions, so from child on, I choose the "safe" way and learned to repress anger, or at least don't use anger as it is supposed to.
My father and me both have liver issues, which is also an indication to repressed anger imo.

I do get angry, but that is more when I am frustrated and getting angry feels like the only option left to get my way.
That is not healthy (for any one involved) and not what is unsuppressed anger is about isn't it?

Is there any one who could recommend a book about this subject?
Not only a book that explains about healthy anger, but more so that gives instructions to get there (to become someone who doesn't repress it) after one has lived half a lifetime of repressing anger.

I believe this is the one of the chore issues that are between me and HS at the moment and the ego uses this as it's strongest base to stay in charge.

Hi eram, i think (if you havent read it already) that you would benefit highly from the 'you forever' book. t. lobsang rampa goes through feelings, where you can help yourself with the higher perspective of: "will this matter in 5 yrs, 10 yrs, 25 yrs??" and so on. it does help simmer in the moment, and perhaps slowly train yourself to be zen and know deep down, these things that make us mad/angry/frustrated really dont matter in the bigger picture of life.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by OOO (here)
I know when I am connected to my HS I feel deep peace.
However, I still don't understand why, when I connect
with Source or try to feel It I cry and have such sadness.
I have felt my limitless self and that is a wonderful
experience, but anything with Source/God evokes almost
a pain. Why?

Also, my experience a few months ago left be baffled.
I was meditating and an image of a reptilian head showed
itself and I felt it birth/exit my body slithering through my
legs and into the earth. It left a slimy film as it left. It was
followed by a snake who hissed, jaws open. The snake
tried to test me if I was afraid, but I understood that its a
friend. In an instant the snake started to twirl through my
body and secured itself in my head.

Any insights?
Thank you.

Hmm. When a person is aware of being truly limitless in every way, that is the lowest of the divine worlds, i.e. the lowest level of being Source, i.e. it’s what is often known as Atman. So blissful, and powerful, and penetrating literally all.

It’s certainly possible to experience great sorrow if one contacts the group consciousness of humanity. That contains all the sorrow that comes from that part of the human condition that we know as the ego, but coming from all human beings combined. It contains all the suffering from living on this planet.

There are other archetypal consciousnesses like that which contain great sorrow too. But none of them is Source. Source is beyond experience. It’s pure being. So, the “link to Source” that you experience has no doubt been contaminated with some strong negativity. One thing I have encountered is that some people initially – at a young age such as in adolescence – may feel enormous fear regarding Source and regarding questions to do with eternity. Maybe you’re experiencing something like that, left over from the past?

Regarding the image of the Reptoid head and of the snake, the Reptoid could have been a “hitchhiker” – or a past-lifetime personality, though in all my experience and investigations, quite a few “hitchhikers” are one’s own past personalities. I don’t think the “snake” was actually a snake, even in the astral world. Ray may know something about this. However, I do know that those things that look like snakes are there when one engages in inappropriate sex, such as masturbation and so on and so forth. But as far as I know they can’t travel up to the head, but only in the opposite direction. That suggests to me that the “snake” image you saw was possibly quite symbolic rather than an actual being or entity.

[OOO]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)

Posted by OOO (here)
I know when I am connected to my HS I feel deep peace.
However, I still don't understand why, when I connect
with Source or try to feel It I cry and have such sadness.
I have felt my limitless self and that is a wonderful
experience, but anything with Source/God evokes almost
a pain. Why?

Also, my experience a few months ago left be baffled.
I was meditating and an image of a reptilian head showed
itself and I felt it birth/exit my body slithering through my
legs and into the earth. It left a slimy film as it left. It was
followed by a snake who hissed, jaws open. The snake
tried to test me if I was afraid, but I understood that its a
friend. In an instant the snake started to twirl through my
body and secured itself in my head.

Any insights?
Thank you.

Hmm. When a person is aware of being truly limitless in every way, that is the lowest of the divine worlds, i.e. the lowest level of being Source, i.e. it’s what is often known as Atman. So blissful, and powerful, and penetrating literally all.

It’s certainly possible to experience great sorrow if one contacts the group consciousness of humanity. That contains all the sorrow that comes from that part of the human condition that we know as the ego, but coming from all human beings combined. It contains all the suffering from living on this planet.

There are other archetypal consciousnesses like that which contain great sorrow too. But none of them is Source. Source is beyond experience. It’s pure being. So, the “link to Source” that you experience has no doubt been contaminated with some strong negativity. One thing I have encountered is that some people initially – at a young age such as in adolescence – may feel enormous fear regarding Source and regarding questions to do with eternity. Maybe you’re experiencing something like that, left over from the past?

Regarding the image of the Reptoid head and of the snake, the Reptoid could have been a “hitchhiker” – or a past-lifetime personality, though in all my experience and investigations, quite a few “hitchhikers” are one’s own past personalities. I don’t think the “snake” was actually a snake, even in the astral world. Ray may know something about this. However, I do know that those things that look like snakes are there when one engages in inappropriate sex, such as masturbation and so on and so forth. But as far as I know they can’t travel up to the head, but only in the opposite direction. That suggests to me that the “snake” image you saw was possibly quite symbolic rather than an actual being or entity.

The source explanation sounds interesting...i need to process this...thank you.

The reptile snake thing is still confusing. I am not at all into lizards and reptiles or kundalini
chakras and frankly did not enjoy the experience. Thank you for the insights. Much work left.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
Regarding the image of the Reptoid head and of the snake, the Reptoid could have been a “hitchhiker” – or a past-lifetime personality, though in all my experience and investigations, quite a few “hitchhikers” are one’s own past personalities. I don’t think the “snake” was actually a snake, even in the astral world. Ray may know something about this. However, I do know that those things that look like snakes are there when one engages in inappropriate sex, such as masturbation and so on and so forth. But as far as I know they can’t travel up to the head, but only in the opposite direction. That suggests to me that the “snake” image you saw was possibly quite symbolic rather than an actual being or entity.

I've had one very positive experience with snakes during the dream state. In the dream I was taken to a shaman who gave me something to smoke. Walking a path into the darkness I was greeted by a very large brown snake, larger than me, who transmitted lots of love. Walking again, I was greeted by another extremely large snake with a head approximately 2 feet across. The love from this black snake was even more intense than love from the previously encountered brown snake. No information was exchanged other than the feeling of love. The large black snake put its large head between by body and my arm, as if exchanging a loving hug.

Relating this story to others, for many years after, remained very emotional. Each time I recalled so much love that the tears would flow.

I've had many other dreams of smaller snakes, but without the love. Always on guard and without any fear, an evaluation was made to determine if the snake was poisonous or not. If the snake was not a threat, I let it live.

[wolfgaze]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
I've had one very positive experience with snakes during the dream state. In the dream I was taken to a shaman who gave me something to smoke. Walking a path into the darkness I was greeted by a very large brown snake, larger than me, who transmitted lots of love. Walking again, I was greeted by another extremely large snake with a head approximately 2 feet across. The love from this black snake was even more intense than love from the previously encountered brown snake. No information was exchanged other than the feeling of love. The large black snake put its large head between by body and my arm, as if exchanging a loving hug.

Relating this story to others, for many years after, remained very emotional. Each time I recalled so much love that the tears would flow.

I've had many other dreams of smaller snakes, but without the love. Always on guard and without any fear, an evaluation was made to determine if the snake was poisonous or not. If the snake was not a threat, I let it live.

Here is an interesting write-up about snake symbolism:

http://www.shamanicjourney.com/artic...psychic-energy

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by wolfgaze (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)
I've had one very positive experience with snakes during the dream state. In the dream I was taken to a shaman who gave me something to smoke. Walking a path into the darkness I was greeted by a very large brown snake, larger than me, who transmitted lots of love. Walking again, I was greeted by another extremely large snake with a head approximately 2 feet across. The love from this black snake was even more intense than love from the previously encountered brown snake. No information was exchanged other than the feeling of love. The large black snake put its large head between by body and my arm, as if exchanging a loving hug.

Relating this story to others, for many years after, remained very emotional. Each time I recalled so much love that the tears would flow.

I've had many other dreams of smaller snakes, but without the love. Always on guard and without any fear, an evaluation was made to determine if the snake was poisonous or not. If the snake was not a threat, I let it live.

Here is an interesting write-up about snake symbolism:

http://www.shamanicjourney.com/artic...psychic-energy

Just my little inner voice talking, but my gut feeling is that these were symbols of Reptilians, hopefully those of the light side.
Some day I may find out for sure.

[Finefeather]

Regarding snakes...
When I first started on the path to awakening this was a common experience for me, and at first I was confused and thought it might have something to do with sex, as I had a rather strong libido...but then I started to look more carefully at it and found out some interesting things.

The snake is traditionally linked with kundalini and it is interesting to note that when it starts to rise...more strongly than normal... up the center channel...due to meditation or spiritual awakening...we start to experience more unbalance in our lives. This is due to the many different attitudes we have in our lives which causes uneven flow of the life force in the other 2 channels...known as Ida and Pingala. This is the classic case of unbalanced chakras when we start to experience snakes in our dreams. This is of course not the only experience we can have.

I was instructed by one of my guides at the time to practice alternative nostril breathing to help balance the force. This was only partially helpful and would rapidly return if I stopped for a few days. I then started to examine my attitudes to different things in my life. Now, with this out of balance...which is just the duality present in our thinking...we can experience either side of the spectrum between what we might call 'good' and 'bad'...in other words we can have a pleasant experience or an unpleasant one...depending entirely on the attitude we have in our thinking in our every day life. The answer to this is to have a balanced outlook...and it starts to delve into the truth that there is no real 'evil' and 'good' in life...all is just another side of the same coin of life.

When we start to merge or let the Higher Self through, our thinking starts to become more moderate and things do not sway us...often violently...between these dualities in our life...we become balanced and are less prone to go off on a tangent or have moments of emotional outbursts.

Of course this is all part of the process of enlightenment and allowing the HS to take charge of it's vehicle...which is just out of balance.
The kinds of things that can cause this is vast and depends entirely on the inner attitudes we have in our lives...which we often secretly avoid...and these often seem to bounce back into our lives with great consistency.

Take care
Ray

[OOO]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
Regarding snakes...

When we start to merge or let the Higher Self through, our thinking starts to become more moderate and things do not sway us...often violently...between these dualities in our life...we become balanced and are less prone to go off on a tangent or have moments of emotional outbursts.

Of course this is all part of the process of enlightenment and allowing the HS to take charge of it's vehicle...which is just out of balance...
Ray

I think that is extremely well put!! I like it. It is something I can conceptualize and work with.
Thank you.

ps..snakes and sexuality... really??!! I've been married too many yrs, my libido is dead and buried...

[Freed Fox]

Ron, I had a somewhat similar experience with a snake, but it was not in a dream. I hesitated about whether or not to bring this up, but it seems related. Especially now, after reading what TraineeHuman, Finefeather, and others have stated regarding the higher self... I have been carrying a certain interpretation of this experience since it happened, but perhaps this actually had something to do with either Kundalini or my Higher Self.

It happened roughly three years ago. Back then, I was not particularly versed or interested in Spirituality. I was a staunch agnostic; that is, I was open to the possibility of God but rather convinced that he/she/it was far beyond the grasp of any human. I believed that we could not possibly know the nature or presence of God until the time of death.

I was going through a rather rough period of time. I had moved far away from my childhood home to attend college. When this experience occurred, everything seemed to be falling apart. Many friendships had ended, I had lost all passion and interest in my chosen path. I was miserable and filled with rage. It seemed to me I had lost all the good things I'd once had in life, and everything which was left was either an illusion or delusion.

I'd been struggling with these things for awhile when it happened, and what happened started when I decided to meditate. I have no idea why I went with this approach... I knew no one who practiced meditation, and I personally had little belief in its efficacy. Still, for lack of any better solutions, and because I desperately wanted to relieve my anger and hopelessness, I must have been willing to try anything. Perhaps it was some sort of divine or higher guidance after all, because it makes little sense looking back. Again, I had little interest in Spirituality, having fallen into the trap of conventional western thinking that it was all substanceless nonsense and 'mumbo-jumbo'.

So, to the point and the thing itself; I began meditating. I laid back, relaxed, and did all that I could to clear my mind. It was much harder then than it is now, but somehow I succeeded. There has been so much that has happened since then, and so much about it and subsequent experiences that I've had to process, that it's difficult to remember exactly what my inspiration was in doing this. Initially I was experiencing relentless, invasive thoughts during this process, so I came up with a mantra to drive them out.

My mantra was this: "Everything is an illusion. None of this is real."

For awhile, there was nothing. Then there was calm. Then...well, then two things happened which I will try to describe in brief so as not to ramble too long.

The first thing was that my body felt energized (an experience which makes more sense now, thanks to this thread, than it did back then). It felt like I was physically changing into something else, and it just felt...right. Like being imbued with life I had never known.

The second thing was what felt distinctly like a presence. I knew that I was alone in the room, but because I had actually breached this meditative state, I didn't think to question the sensation or even fear it. I just allowed it to be. The longer I went on, the more distinct the presence became.

For one thing, this was a feminine presence. I heard nothing; no voices, nothing... nor did I see anything whether in my imagination or my mind's eye. Instead what came to me were feelings. Powerful feelings almost beyond description. I could never have imagined it beforehand, but I was being communicated with through feelings. No words or images or symbols, but pure sensation.

What I have believed this entity to be, is Mother Earth. Either Gaia, or some aspect or messenger from her. I felt that she was incredibly kind... infinitely powerful and yet immensely benevolent.

What I felt from her was the form of a giant snake. I understand how absurd this might seem to some, that much is not lost on me, but it was so very real, vivid, and unmistakeable to me. Although her form was that of a snake, I sensed her to be a part of all of nature. So she is inherently all of the most beautiful sights and landscapes one can experience here on Earth. I felt that she saw every living creature on the planet as her children and cherished them as such. I felt that we, as the human race, were something like the black sheep of this family. We are the only ones going around and slaughtering others on massive scales, polluting and cutting down the forests and jungles with reckless abandon. These thoughts were mine, you see; a reaction to her remarkable brilliance and glory. For these things I felt ashamed and unworthy, and in response to that she assured me that was not the case. In the face of our very worst behaviors, she has nothing but love, forgiveness, and acceptance. Furthermore she let me know that she makes the time for each and every one of us if we are open to it.

All of this was just overwhelming, in the best possible way. Tears streamed down my face, and I felt her wrap around me and lay her head upon my shoulder.

It was the most wonderful experience I've ever had, and jump started my process of awakening. My entire outlook on life changed, and I began searching and exploring, within and without. It started the path which has lead me here, years later. I no longer take things for granted or at face value like I once did. It was not the end of my difficulties, but there was an extremely turbulent time which followed a few months later and I believe this encounter is what gave me the strength to overcome those challenges.

...Apologies everyone, for the lengthy post. I do not mean to be self-indulgent, but reflecting on this still carries so much weight and power to me... and in many ways I am still processing and learning from it.

[Freed Fox]

I want to stress however, that I don't consider myself to be enlightened or even special as a result of my experience. I have my weaknesses and imperfections like everyone else, and there are things which pop up every now and then to remind me of that. I know that I still have a long way to go in my own personal and spiritual development.

I think others have probably experienced this too, but perhaps had a different interpretation or outlook on it. One of the closest examples I've found around the internet are descriptions of 'Mother Ayahuasca', as described by Graham Hancock. I can't say that they are equivocally the same, and the fact that I have never taken Ayahuasca would suggest that they are not, but there are dramatic similarities between the two. Also, I have never really felt this presence again since that time (at least, nowhere near that level of intensity). I don't know if this is my own failing, or because I was simply given what I needed at that time, in order to face what may well have been my darkest hour. I don't know, but I am certainly left very grateful and humbled by it.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
I have never really felt this presence again since that time (at least, nowhere near that level of intensity). I don't know if this is my own failing, or because I was simply given what I needed at that time, in order to face what may well have been my darkest hour. I don't know, but I am certainly left very grateful and humbled by it.

Once a person has some exalted realization or powerful experience, they never lose the wisdom or empowerment it gives them. However, it seems to them that they can't get back to such a "level of intensity". Been there a few times. It isn't necessarily true at all that they can't repeat the intensity. What is experienced or realized becomes "ordinary" because it's then part of oneself, and unconsciously somewhat taken for granted. Equally, it's not a matter of becoming "special" but of becoming somehow more and more interconnected with everyone and everything -- finding oneself in yet a bigger pond, where you seem more tiny and you're aware you're even more in unknowing but you do have greater strength to draw on just from being in that big pond.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
When we start to merge or let the Higher Self through, our thinking starts to become more moderate and things do not sway us...often violently...between these dualities in our life...we become balanced and are less prone to go off on a tangent or have moments of emotional outbursts.

Of course this is all part of the process of enlightenment and allowing the HS to take charge of it's vehicle...which is just out of balance.
The kinds of things that can cause this is vast and depends entirely on the inner attitudes we have in our lives...which we often secretly avoid...and these often seem to bounce back into our lives with great consistency.

It usually takes a long time to appreciate this, but most kinds of stimulation or excitement are what the ego believes will make you happy, and they simply don’t do that (except briefly and in superficial ways). The ego sees everything in extremes, and seems to always be quickly swinging from one to another like a pendulum – like/dislike, desire/disappointment, novelty/boredom... Those extremes can get even more extreme once greater energy and life-force and higher "energy" is present.

The HS just won’t tolerate such a level of neverending polarization. That polarization is not (higher, deeper, fuller) reality. That’s why the HS will always withdraw if you listen much to the ego’s voice. The HS has to, because it brings too much power and too much ability to cause big effects with it. Otherwise you'd have the four-year-old carrying a scalpel around and believing it's a harmless toy.

[nevermnd]

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