Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[Hervé]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
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Attachment 21246

(this should be a large picture, 895x789 pixels. If it gets smashed by the forum software, I'll upload it to a site and link it instead.)

Dennis

Thanks,

But the attachment link is not working for me...

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
[...]

Attachment 21246

(this should be a large picture, 895x789 pixels. If it gets smashed by the forum software, I'll upload it to a site and link it instead.)

Dennis

Thanks,

But the attachment link is not working for me...

OK, I'll upload and link...

Dennis

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Here is the image (for what its worth)



Dennis

[Earth Angel]

there is a facebook page now dedicated to Dzhokhar Tsamaev getting a fair trial https://www.facebook.com/groups/Dzho...aevisInnocent/

on the page this post blew my mind........from a blog posted in 2011 about three 18 year old boys wrongly accused of murder back in 1993.....there is a comment posted August 31. 2011 by Dzhokhar Tsamaev and it is chilling how he seems to be talking about his own situation at present

...here is an image of the post and his response

you can find the actual page here and his post is about 24 posts down in the comments http://umdfyebookblink.wordpress.com...-turns-tragic/

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The photo was taken by David Green, and was uploaded to his Fazebook page. I downloaded the image, blew it up 1000x and saved a copy (as a PNG file, to have the most accurate representation with no more compression loss.)

HOWEVER, this 'analysis' needs to be done on the original file that came from the camera. If it was in RAW format in the camera, there is more detail in the dark areas that can easily be pulled from the image. If it was JPG, then it has already gotten some compression loss. If Fbook then compresses it again, it has undergone two steps of compression loss. So, with those caveats, here is the image:

Attachment 21246

(this should be a large picture, 895x789 pixels. If it gets smashed by the forum software, I'll upload it to a site and link it instead.)

Dennis

The image you attached seems to be 895x789 pixels, as you hoped, but it is quite heavily pixelated. His nose is 4 pixels, and his hand 30 pixels. One cannot count fingers on his hand.

Whatever image was used in the Youtube video I linked, https://youtube.com/watch?v=7-fDFZF9h8Y, appears to have better resolution. Fingers are easy to discern and the face looks human.

Here's a couple of screen shots I just took, the first one from the Youtube video I linked and the second one from your attached image, of just his face, so you can see the difference:

Your attachment is the coarse one on the right.

Were you seeing finer resolution when you did your analysis? If so, we should make the effort to get some better images from your work.

[turiya]

Investigative journalist, Wayne Madsen, formerly with the NSA, has noteworthy former 'insider' opinion on such things CIA/FBI.
Seems that there was an FBI informant by the name of Misha that had formed a rapport with Tamerlan Tzarnaev. The Tzarnaev family expressed concern over the influence that this particular individual had over their son. No doubt the FBI would know precisely who this individual is, and any recordings of conversations that had taken place (doubtful - to say the least).

Boston Bombing Suspects Were Gov't Assets

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x4TChwWn93U

And here is a Democracy Now piece. Its actually two interviews - the first focuses on the CIA's involvement with the NYPD in its efforts to surveil Muslim individuals & communities in the New York City area. The more relevant second part (starts at 22:20) goes into the FBI's use of informants to target & solicit Muslims in terror plots for purposes of later entrapment.


Federal Bureau of Investigation or Instigation?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=em7KyqwrQTc

Uploaded on Feb 26, 2012

What the hell is gang stalking?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/72110691

The FBI has built a massive network of spies to prevent another domestic terrorist attack. But are they busting plots—or leading them? That's the question addressed by a year-long investigation in Mother Jones magazine. It suggests FBI informants are not only busting terrorist plots, they are actually leading them so the FBI can later claim victories in the so-called "war on terror." In collaboration with the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California, Berkeley, reporter Trevor Aaronson examined more than 500 terrorism-related cases and found that nearly half the prosecutions involved the use of informants, many of them incentivized by cash rewards up to $100,000 per assignment. We speak with Aaronson and are also joined by James Wedick, a retired FBI agent who worked for the Bureau for 35 years, and Gadeir Abbas, staff attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

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Mother Jones Article Excerpt:

The Informants
The FBI has built a massive network of spies to prevent another domestic attack. But are they busting terrorist plots—or leading them?

The bureau now maintains a roster of 15,000 spies, some paid as much as $100,000 per case, many of them tasked with infiltrating Muslim communities in the United States.

Ever since 9/11, counterterrorism has been the FBI's No. 1 priority, consuming the lion's share of its budget—$3.3 billion, compared to $2.6 billion for organized crime—and much of the attention of field agents and a massive, nationwide network of informants. After years of emphasizing informant recruiting as a key task for its agents, the bureau now maintains a roster of 15,000 spies—many of them tasked with infiltrating Muslim communities in the United States. In addition, for every informant officially listed in the bureau's records, there are as many as three unofficial ones, according to one former high-level FBI official, known in bureau parlance as "hip pockets."

The informants could be doctors, clerks, imams. Some might not even consider themselves informants. But the FBI regularly taps all of them as part of a domestic intelligence apparatus whose only historical peer might be COINTELPRO, the program the bureau ran from the '50s to the '70s to discredit and marginalize organizations ranging from the Ku Klux Klan to civil-rights and protest groups.

The bureau's strategy has changed significantly from the days when officials feared another coordinated, internationally financed attack from an Al Qaeda sleeper cell. Today, counterterrorism experts believe groups like Al Qaeda, battered by the war in Afghanistan and the efforts of the global intelligence community, have shifted to a franchise model, using the internet to encourage sympathizers to carry out attacks in their name. The main domestic threat, as the FBI sees it, is a lone wolf.

The bureau's answer has been a strategy known variously as "preemption," "prevention," and "disruption"—identifying and neutralizing potential lone wolves before they move toward action. To that end, FBI agents and informants target not just active jihadists, but tens of thousands of law-abiding people, seeking to identify those disgruntled few who might participate in a plot given the means and the opportunity. And then, in case after case, the government provides the plot, the means, and the opportunity.

"The problem with the cases we're talking about is that defendants would not have done anything if not kicked in the ass by government agents," says Martin Stolar, a lawyer who represented a man caught in a 2004 sting involving New York's Herald Square subway station. "They're creating crimes to solve crimes so they can claim a victory in the war on terror."

Read the entire article... Source

turiya

[Hervé]

The FBI is well experienced and practiced in so-called sting operations, the most famous one goes back to the 70s: Abscam or how to get rid of Congress...

[Earth Angel]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/24...stions-boston/

love the professional journalism

The nutty Florida Atlantic University professor who suggested the Sandy Hook school massacre was staged is at it again, blogging that the Boston Marathon bombing was some sort of government dri

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/24...#ixzz2RQywonZz

[Abhaya]

Look alike kid who was confused with and falsly identified with dzhokhar at the early stages of bombings found dead??

http://www.enstarz.com/articles/1683...logy-video.htm

[jackovesk]

Published on Apr 22, 2013

Maret Tsarnaeva was contacted for an interview by Dan Dicks Infowars Correspondent and editor of PressForTruth.ca. He had scheduled an interview with her but when he arrived she was hesitant about conducting an interview.

He sent us the number and David Knight contacted her for a pre-interview and to schedule an interview with Alex Jones. That pre-interview was recorded on video. Alex then talked to Maret twice on the phone as she was now unwilling to conduct an interview. She felt people were listening to her phone and she made a point to say she was not being threatened. Alex wrote notes from the meeting and prepared this report.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hRkky5nWdWA

[FBI IGNORES MEN WITH BACKPACKS AT SCENE OF BOSTON BOMBINGS]
"Other photos will not be deemed credible"
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-ignores-m...


FBI briefing on Boston bombings postponed. The FBI said it "needs more time to prepare"
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombin...


Ben Swann analyzes the biggest national media event under a different light
http://www.infowars.com/ben-swann-rea... SEE HERE... http://youtu.be/rjW03McCgfw

[thunder24]

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2013/04/s...Blogger.Com%29

can't help myself or did i miss this early on... found this on redicecreations... the finish line was at 666 boylston street... you don't have to believe, but someone does.... geez

[jackovesk]

Published on Apr 24, 2013

Alex thwarts predictable corporate media smear attempts suggesting Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who the FBI has admitted "knowing" since at least 2011, was a fan of Infowars. Alex also continues analysis of the holes in the bombing narrative, and gives further insight into the FBI's role in creating and foiling its own terror plots.

Obama sends his own (Secret Service Agents) to Boston Bombing Press Conference

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=laex8yZKQe4

[Prodigal Son]

Posted by Earth Angel (here)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/24...stions-boston/

love the professional journalism

The nutty Florida Atlantic University professor who suggested the Sandy Hook school massacre was staged is at it again, blogging that the Boston Marathon bombing was some sort of government dri

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/24...#ixzz2RQywonZz

This ^^^ logo is a joke, isn't it?

They make me sick. No one has sold their soul to the devil more than Sean Hannity & Co., and now they have stooped to a new low.

[InCiDeR]

Regarding the "photoshopped" missing backpack. Could it be so simple that he still have it just over his right shoulder, as in the picture below?! In that case it would be hard to spot the backpack from the viewing angle in the "photoshopped" picture!




EDIT: The way his right shoulder is a bit lower than the left could actually indicate that he is still wearing the backpack over the right shoulder.


By the way.... black backpacks my @ss....

[jackovesk]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2013/04/s...Blogger.Com%29

can't help myself or did i miss this early on... found this on redicecreations... the finish line was at 666 boylston street... you don't have to believe, but someone does.... geez

FYI:

Apr 22, 2013

The story behind the Craft Skull logo combines several meaningful pieces of Chris Kyle's life and service.
As part of SEAL Team 3, Chris and his fellow teammates painted similar skulls on their gear in order to strike fear in the enemy.
http://www.thecraft.com/
http://www.thecraft.com/craft_skull.html

Boston 666 Boylston Str, Craft International, Chris Kyle, Illuminati Card, Skull & Bones

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SVARxALYYV4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E0AfB5Pp8wA

Christopher Scott "Chris" Kyle (April 8, 1974 -- February 2, 2013) was a United States Navy SEAL and known as the most lethal sniper in American military history, with 160 confirmed kills (out of 255 claimed kills), although these statistics have not been released by the Pentagon. Kyle was shot and killed at a shooting range by a fellow veteran on February 2, 2013, near Chalk Mountain, Texas.

Iraqis called Chris Kyle "El Shaitan" or "Devil of Ramadi"

Constantine looked up to the sun before the battle and saw a cross of light above it, and with it the Greek words "Ἐν Τούτῳ Νίκα" ("by this, win!", often rendered in the Latin "in hoc signo vinces.

Satanic Connection? Boston Marathon Finish Line was at 666 Boylston Street:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=666+Bo...

It's a remarkable paradox that Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev became a U.S. citizen on Sept. 11, 2012, the 11th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.
http://immigration.about.com/b/2013/0...

This Family Guy "Turban Cowboy" episode 16 season 11, was broadcast 17 march 2013 on the fox network.
The Boston Marathon scene was at 3:30 in that episode, the scene with the 2 bombs was at 15:00 in that same episode.

Nick Vogt
Why serve? Because it was his dream, his calling: "When he was six years old he wanted his first flat top hair cut," said Olivia, "He had already decided he wanted to be in the army. From that point on he never second-guessed that."
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/cw/...

Boston Marathon Conspiracy ... suspects being called actors by Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis, on fox news april 21, 2013
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e8FbLC...

Former FBI Chief ADMITS Government is Involved in Most 'Terrorist' Attacks!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-nqhzs...

"'Abdullah Ibn 'Omar said, The Prophet stood up to address the people. He praised Allah as He deserved to be praised, then he spoke about the Dajjal: 'I warn you against him; there is no Prophet who has not warned his people against him, even Noah warned his people against him. But I will tell you something which no other Prophet has told his people. You must know that the Dajjal is ONE-EYED, and Allah is not one-eyed.'"

Psycho Operations, Craft International, Boston Bombings, 666 Boylston Str. Illuminati Card Game. https://youtube.com/watch?v=E0AfB5...

[JohnEAngel]

it's possible that the Bauman guy was given a disguise (ears, eyebrows, etc.) along with his fake blown off legs. just saying.

[Referee]

Obama's Secret Service vs Infowar's Dan Bidondi.... IMO very important!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XqXAmONnKeo

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The photo was taken by David Green, and was uploaded to his Fazebook page. I downloaded the image, blew it up 1000x and saved a copy (as a PNG file, to have the most accurate representation with no more compression loss.)

HOWEVER, this 'analysis' needs to be done on the original file that came from the camera. If it was in RAW format in the camera, there is more detail in the dark areas that can easily be pulled from the image. If it was JPG, then it has already gotten some compression loss. If Fbook then compresses it again, it has undergone two steps of compression loss. So, with those caveats, here is the image:

Attachment 21246

(this should be a large picture, 895x789 pixels. If it gets smashed by the forum software, I'll upload it to a site and link it instead.)

Dennis

The image you attached seems to be 895x789 pixels, as you hoped, but it is quite heavily pixelated. His nose is 4 pixels, and his hand 30 pixels. One cannot count fingers on his hand.

Whatever image was used in the Youtube video I linked, https://youtube.com/watch?v=7-fDFZF9h8Y, appears to have better resolution. Fingers are easy to discern and the face looks human.

Here's a couple of screen shots I just took, the first one from the Youtube video I linked and the second one from your attached image, of just his face, so you can see the difference:

Your attachment is the coarse one on the right.

Were you seeing finer resolution when you did your analysis? If so, we should make the effort to get some better images from your work.

The point of what I did was NOT to add or alter any pixels. Normally when an image is to be enlarged, there are a variety of algorithms in the graphics program that "create" new pixels. They do an average of the surrounding pixels values, and take their best guess and that is the color assigned to the new pixel.

If I do that, I can get a smooth enlargement - but it is not original. I wanted to show exactly what is in the image, without changing it at all.

My 1000x enlargement is as if you took a low-powered microscope to newsprint and saw the individual dots. The pixels you see ARE the dots that are really there, not enhanced in quality nor augmented in quantity - just enlarged in size.

That is actually what the image looks like when enlarged 1000 times.

This is how I would (hopefully) be able to tell if the image was "Photoshopped." When you work at high magnification on an altered image you can more easily find anomalies in some attributes of the pixels in the altered area. If I had to say based on what I see here, I'd say the guy in the video was wrong about the arm being moved. The color gradient, size of pixels, and the hardest thing to fake - the edges - of the elbow in front of the brick background don't look altered. The anomaly I do see is that the entire side of the chest and shoulder appears much more blocky/rectangular than almost anything else in the image. However, there is a man (tan coat with wide black trim on bottom) about 40 feet to the right of Dzhokhar, that is near the same focal depth from the camera, and the black band at the bottom of his coat has the same blockiness.

Update:
I have now stared at the image at various enlargements from 1:1 to 3000:1, and I don't believe it was photoshopped.

Dennis

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Here's a couple of screen shots I just took, the first one from the Youtube video I linked and the second one from your attached image, of just his face, so you can see the difference:

Your attachment is the coarse one on the right.

The point of what I did was NOT to add or alter any pixels. Normally when an image is to be enlarged, there are a variety of algorithms in the graphics program that "create" new pixels. They do an average of the surrounding pixels values, and take their best guess and that is the color assigned to the new pixel.

Whoa -- are you telling me that you think that the image on the left above was derived algorithmically from the image on the right by adding pixels and averaging?

I do not believe that .

There is too much detail in the left image that is simply not there in the right image.

It's starting to look to me like whatever image you started with for your work had less useful detail than whatever image the guy producing that youtube video (from which I screen captured the face image on the left) was working from.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Here's a couple of screen shots I just took, the first one from the Youtube video I linked and the second one from your attached image, of just his face, so you can see the difference:

Your attachment is the coarse one on the right.

The point of what I did was NOT to add or alter any pixels. Normally when an image is to be enlarged, there are a variety of algorithms in the graphics program that "create" new pixels. They do an average of the surrounding pixels values, and take their best guess and that is the color assigned to the new pixel.

Whoa -- are you telling me that you think that the image on the left above was derived algorithmically from the image on the right by adding pixels and averaging?

I do not believe that .

There is too much detail in the left image that is simply not there in the right image.

It's starting to look to me like whatever image you started with for your work had less useful detail than whatever image the guy producing that youtube video (from which I screen captured the face image on the left) was working from.

Here is the image, the full image (as I said, as uploaded to Facebook.)

960x720 (which is probably not the highest resolution image unless it was a 'point and shoot' pocket camera.)

I'm not sure what the forum software will do with that picture, so here is just that lower-mid left corner with Dzhokhar:

(102x75 pixels)
Yes, there are very few actual pixels out of the 960x720 full image. Dzhokhar's head is all within a 16pixel x 16 pixel square.

It is possible that the original image is much bigger (like 3600 pixels wide), and that would provide higher resolution. But, if you want to prove it to yourself, download the full street scene that I posted, put it into a graphics program and ZOOM (do not enlarge, just zoom) it 1000 times.

And yes, the enlargement algorithms (which are creating pixels that were not in the original) are very sophisticated. Ever see a photo on the side of a bus?

Once you use the enlargement algorithm, it is much much more difficult to see if a photo has been altered (because the enlargement algorithm IS altering the image considerably), and trying to determine if the image had been digitally altered was the point of my post. :~)

Dennis

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Here is the image, the full image (as I said, as uploaded to Facebook.)

Yes, I agree, that image is pixelated as you describe, and as seen in the "coarse" (right side) image below:

I understand that is the image you were working with, and that you carefully avoid any more detail obscuring transformations on that image.

Good.

Now ... where did the author of the Youtube video, from which I screen shot the more detailed face on the left, get his image?

I remain confident that his image has more legitimate detail, that the chain of transformations done on his image between the original and when the face from it ended up posted by myself above was never pixelated as much as the chain of transformations done on the image you are working with.